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Apr 29, 2017 15:40:30   #
Chocura750
 
Matthew 19:24

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Apr 29, 2017 16:03:18   #
Quakerwidow Loc: Chestertown, MD
 
Chocura750 wrote:
Matthew 19:24


yep

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Apr 29, 2017 17:02:36   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Chocura750 wrote:
Matthew 19:24


Ah, the old threading the needle analogy. Easily and often taken completely out of context. Here's the whole verse:

"Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." When the disciples heard this, they were very astonished and said, "Then who can be saved?" And looking at them Jesus said to them, "With people this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."

Jesus had no problem with people becoming rich. His problem was with those who became rich by ignoring the Commandments, as with all who did not adhere to those ten simple rules. Essentially, it is more difficult for a rich man to follow the Commandments simply because he has so much more temptation in his life.

But remember: "Thou shalt not steal". Separating a rich man from his assets is not only not going to pave his path into heaven for him, but it will also block those who do the taking. You will be judged, whether rich or poor. It is not your wealth that you are judged on, but your life, and how you choose to live it. Theft is theft, regardless of who is deprived or the motives of the thief.

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Apr 29, 2017 17:35:04   #
Quakerwidow Loc: Chestertown, MD
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Ah, the old threading the needle analogy. Easily and often taken completely out of context. Here's the whole verse:

"Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." When the disciples heard this, they were very astonished and said, "Then who can be saved?" And looking at them Jesus said to them, "With people this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."

Jesus had no problem with people becoming rich. His problem was with those who became rich by ignoring the Commandments, as with all who did not adhere to those ten simple rules. Essentially, it is more difficult for a rich man to follow the Commandments simply because he has so much more temptation in his life.

But remember: "Thou shalt not steal". Separating a rich man from his assets is not only not going to pave his path into heaven for him, but it will also block those who do the taking. You will be judged, whether rich or poor. It is not your wealth that you are judged on, but your life, and how you choose to live it. Theft is theft, regardless of who is deprived or the motives of the thief.
Ah, the old threading the needle analogy. Easily ... (show quote)


And is it not theft of a poor person's labor to pay them less than a living wage?

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Apr 29, 2017 17:57:13   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Quakerwidow wrote:
And is it not theft of a poor person's labor to pay them less than a living wage?


Is it theft to pay any person, rich or poor, what their labor brings on the market? If a person is doing a job that pays less than a 'living wage' (wh**ever that is), there is nothing stopping that person from finding employment with a company paying a higher wage. Nobody is forced to work anywhere he or she finds unsuitable. Wages are paid based on what the market will bear for the fruits of that labor. No-one goes into business with the intention of taking a loss on the deal.

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Apr 30, 2017 01:06:10   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I have yet for one of these libtards to define a living wage. I know people on 100% government assistance that have cable, cell phone, car, and computers.
Larry the Legend wrote:
Is it theft to pay any person, rich or poor, what their labor brings on the market? If a person is doing a job that pays less than a 'living wage' (wh**ever that is), there is nothing stopping that person from finding employment with a company paying a higher wage. Nobody is forced to work anywhere he or she finds unsuitable. Wages are paid based on what the market will bear for the fruits of that labor. No-one goes into business with the intention of taking a loss on the deal.

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Apr 30, 2017 04:52:22   #
Quakerwidow Loc: Chestertown, MD
 
JFlorio wrote:
I have yet for one of these libtards to define a living wage. I know people on 100% government assistance that have cable, cell phone, car, and computers.


If all available jobs (meaning jobs one can get to in less than two hours) pay less than one can get on assistance (which out here in the country will NOT stretch to all the things you list), then I would say those jobs are NOT paying a living wage.

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Apr 30, 2017 09:17:18   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Maybe assistance is paying to much. Obviously you have never run a business. The proper way to pay an employee is to pay him what he is worth to your business. Period. If his productivity is high you pay them well. You pay them what you must to keep them. If a living wage is in your mind $25.00 an hour should we pay a fast food worker that amount? If you paid people a living wage by your definition soon all would be on assistance.
Quakerwidow wrote:
If all available jobs (meaning jobs one can get to in less than two hours) pay less than one can get on assistance (which out here in the country will NOT stretch to all the things you list), then I would say those jobs are NOT paying a living wage.

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Apr 30, 2017 09:51:03   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
JFlorio wrote:
If a living wage is in your mind $25.00 an hour should we pay a fast food worker that amount? If you paid people a living wage by your definition soon all would be on assistance.


Government mandated wage minimums always, always, put people out of work. Just ask anyone at Wendy's, Panera Bread, MacDonald's, etc. They're out of work because the employers cannot afford to pay that and stay in business. Period.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/17/business-insider-fast-food-workers-becoming-obsolete/

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Apr 30, 2017 11:00:47   #
currahee
 
Government by our constitution is there to protect people from the theft by the "rich." This being the case, then return "money creation" back to our congress; in other words, "restore our constitution in terms of the original motive of the founders, namely, to take the power to be a free society away fro the European bankers." Questions about the quantity of money one should earn go away because there is no longer an outside group that is regulating the value of the dollar and no need any longer for an "income tax" on labor. There will be no regulation of costs by dictatorial consensus.

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Apr 30, 2017 11:11:57   #
bahmer
 
Chocura750 wrote:
Matthew 19:24


Matthew 19:24King James Version (KJV)

24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

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Apr 30, 2017 14:13:22   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Just so you know. Christians can't help anyone get to heaven by helping anyone else spend, lose, or give away their wealth. We can not get to heaven by our acts. None are worthy. All fall short. It's called Grace. Receiving a gift we did not earn.
Chocura750 wrote:
Matthew 19:24

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Apr 30, 2017 20:04:00   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Quakerwidow wrote:
And is it not theft of a poor person's labor to pay them less than a living wage?


Might I suggest to you to read the parable Jesus told about the workers in the vineyard?

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Apr 30, 2017 22:40:58   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Government mandated wage minimums always, always, put people out of work. Just ask anyone at Wendy's, Panera Bread, MacDonald's, etc. They're out of work because the employers cannot afford to pay that and stay in business. Period.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/17/business-insider-fast-food-workers-becoming-obsolete/


Automation and technology advancement will in time impact more than just fast food stores, putting people out of work..

It's just a matter of time when the Amazons and other on line shopping net works will or are already impacting Malls and the stores in them....

Just as technology changed our post offices, loosing money because of less sales for stamps, emails, texting and on line cards etc..Demand is down unless it's mailing packages..

Yes the make over has already begun, Larry..

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Apr 30, 2017 22:41:25   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
padremike wrote:
Might I suggest to you to read the parable Jesus told about the workers in the vineyard?



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