Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

The investigations during Obama were charades. It's a new day with a new sheriff. Today investigations will be real with real results. That's why.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

Yep. I believe the reason espionage is the hot issue is because it will begin the process of unravelling DC.

Other accusations can be argued and stonewalled. The fact that she used her own server is now part of the ntl. record via Comey's testimony and now irrefutable.

Nickolai

Now we have even more corrupt justice Dept, headed by Jeff Sessions who lied through his teeth at his confirmation hearing

Nickolai

You people are a bunch of i***ts She is not going to be prosecuted for anything it would divide this nation even more than it is now. Things are really f****** up People are suffering from post e******n stress syndrome right now we don't need more depressing bull s**t. People can't believe that an ego maniac with a narcissistic personality disorder that bragged on video tape about kissing women with their permission and grabbing them by the pussy because when your a star like him they let you do it, could be elected to our highest office with absolutely no experience other than corruption and c***ting people out of their money. Anti depressants are flying off the shelves

CounterRevolutionary

Wrong. As Aunti E posted above, if Hillary is charged for "gross negligence" under 18 USC 793, Hillary Clinton can be fined and imprisoned for 10 years.
It is not necessary to prove "intent" when charged with gross negligence.

This will keep Hillary Clinton from ever running for office again.

CounterRevolutionary

It's not all for show. Maybe this will make Jason Chaffetz reconsider his threat to resign the House, now that action is being taken. Read the article:

http://freebeacon.com/issues/congress-seeks-prosecution-clinton-private-server-companys-obstruction-investigations/

Congress Asks Trump to Prosecute Clinton Private Server Team for Obstruction
Congress refers case to Trump DOJ for prosecution
by: Adam Kredo, April 27, 2017 11:00 am

"The private internet company hired by former secretary of state Hillary Clinton to maintain her private email server has been obstructing a congressional investigation into its actions for more than a year, prompting a leading lawmakers to refer the case to the Trump administration’s Department of Justice for criminal prosecution.

Rep. Lamar Smith (R., Texas), chairman of the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee, has asked the DOJ to prosecute Platte River Networks CEO Treve Suazo for obstructing a congressional investigation into his company’s role in providing security for Clinton’s home brewed email server, which became the subject of widespread debate following revelations that it had multiple security vulnerabilities.

Smith, whose committee has jurisdiction over the investigation, said the Congress would not tolerate Platte River's failure to comply with the investigation.
'The Committee is referring Mr. Treve Suazo, CEO of Platte River Networks, to the Department of Justice for prosecution under federal laws pertaining to failing to produce subpoenaed documents, making false statements to Congress regarding possession of documents, and obstructing Congress,' Smith said in a statement.

'Platte River Networks, a company hired by former Secretary Hillary Clinton, has deliberately withheld requested materials from the Committee and refused to comply with lawfully issued subpoenas,' Smith alleged. 'With a new administration in place, I am hopeful that the Department of Justice will appropriately respond to the referral. We cannot allow companies with valuable information to stonewall us in our oversight efforts.'

Senior congressional aides apprised of the situation said their investigation shows there is mounting evidence there were "pretty serious cyber security concerns" with Clinton’s server.

Multiple subpoenas and letters from the congressional investigation team went unanswered by Platte River, prompting Smith to refer the case to the DOJ for criminal prosecution. Congressional investigators allege that the company is guilty of failing to produce key documents, making false statements to Congress, and of obstructing the investigation into Clinton’s server.

Two other companies that were subpoenaed and investigated by the committee complied with requests for information. Only Platte River declined to help, according to committee staff.

At least two subpoenas issued by the committee were not answered by Platte River.

'This is atypical,' said one committee aid who brief reporters on the situation. 'There were absolutely zero negotiations, there was no willingness on their part to discuss whether any information they would provide would satisfy the committee's request. It was just the company, with council, refusing to discuss' the matter.

Clinton’s server had many security vulnerabilities and was subjected to multiple hack attacks, according to committee staff..."

CounterRevolutionary

Not so, Nickolai, not so.

CounterRevolutionary

Whaaat? "Even unintentional espionage is espionage"? This is some sort of Orwellian doublespeak?

How about dereliction of duty? How about gross negligence, which needs no proof of intent? AuntiE has it right, use the law 18 USC 793 posted on the first page.

If Comey won't do his job, get rid of Comey. He is c*********d too, for he used to work for Lockheed Martin in security prior joining the FBI. Lockheed, a big military contractor, is a huge contributor to the Clinton Foundation.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

Go back and look at the questions. Instead of making uninformed accusations and comments, look first so you know what you're talking about instead of repeating what you hear others say.

You like to think you are informed but you make many uninformed comments.

As I said, go back and look at the record of the questions and the indicated time frame. Sessions lied about nothing.

You should know enough to understand and put it together yourself. And it has been explained here in detail more than once so if you.persist with this non-issue you will be being disingenuous.

Perhaps you should move to a more habitable state where the air is clean and your mind can clear.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

The nation is divided thanks to your hero and your opinion isn't worth a plug nickel.

Putting her and a host of others in prison can only calm the nation by taking away their ability to lie and be believed by lemmings like you.

You're still stuck on "Hillary will win in a landslide".

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

"Post e******n stress syndrome"...lolol.

You mean "snowflake disorder".

Grow up.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

No. It means ignorance is not a defense in federal court. Whether or not espionage was intended is irrelevant.

Yes, all of AuntieE's examples are correct. Espionage is the focus being discussed in the article and that is what I commented about. I believe it is being proposed because the case is iron clad and will lead to many other convictions.

You act as if it in some way diminishes the other crimes that AuntiE listed. It does not. It opens the door to them.

CounterRevolutionary

I think AuntiE was stating that "espionage" charges could not hold up in court since proof of "intent" was necessary, as Comes explained. but instead, Clinton should be charged with "gross negligence" under 18 USC 793, which need no proof of intent of committing espionage. There are only two instances, where Clinton either committed an act herself, or refused to report someone else committing an act of gross negligence to higher up officers where she could be charged. Once indicted and convicted, she would be ineligible to run for political office. Let's hope Chelsea stays out of politics. the family is rotten to the core.


AuntiE first posted:
"Section (d) of 18 USC 793: [Clinton engaging in] "willfully communicates, delivers, t***smits or causes to be communicated, - relating to national defense
or
Section (f) of 18 USC 793: [Clinton engaging in]
"(1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed,

or

(2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

If you are looking for a connection between Comey and hillary, Comey used to be on the BoDs of the Clinton Foundation.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

Regarding espionage, intent is not a factor. As I mentioned, I believe the suthor was pyshung espionage because her actions fir the classic example of espionage and once filed, the conviction is assured. During the process of discovery, the facts of this case would lay the groundwork for further investigation leading to even more serious charges.