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Dec 13, 2020 00:38:53   #
BB, you are Pathetic!!!
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Dec 13, 2020 00:36:27   #
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TexaCan wrote:
For some time now I have been stating that your personality can be found in all your aliases! I have described your MO many times! By googling, What is a pathological liar?....... this is what I found! This describes you in a nutshell!.".........................


“Compulsive lying is also a known trait of some personality disorders, such as antisocial personality disorder. Trauma or head injuries may also play a role in pathological lying, along with an abnormality in hormone-cortisol ratio.

A 2016 studyTrusted Source of what happens in the brain when you lie found that the more untruths a person tells, the easier and more frequent lying becomes. The results also indicated that self-interest seems to fuel dishonesty.

Though the study didn’t specifically look at pathological lying, it may give some insight into why pathological liars lie as much and as easily as they do.

The following are some of the scientifically recognizedTrusted Source traits and characteristics of pathological liars.

Their lies seem to have no clear benefit

While a person might lie to avoid an uncomfortable situation, such as embarrassment or getting in trouble, a pathological liar tells lies or stories that don’t have an objective benefit.

Friends and family can find this especially frustrating because the person lying doesn’t stand to gain anything from their lies.

The stories they tell are usually dramatic, complicated, and detailed

Pathological liars are great storytellers. Their lies tend to be very detailed and colorful.

Even though obviously over-the-top, the pathological liar may be very convincing.

They usually portray themselves as the hero or victim

Along with being made the hero or victim in their stories, pathological liars tend to tell lies that seem to be geared at gaining admiration, sympathy, or acceptance by others.

They sometimes seem to believe the lies they tell

A pathological liar tells lies and stories that fall somewhere between conscious lying and delusion. They sometimes believe their own lies.

It’s difficult to know how to deal with a pathological liar who may not always be conscious of their lying. Some do it so often that experts believe they may not know the difference between fact and fiction after some time.

Pathological liars also tend to be natural performers. They’re eloquent and know how to engage with others when speaking. They’re creative and original, and quick thinkers who don’t usually show common signs of lying, such as long pauses or avoidance of eye contact.

When asked questions, they may speak a lot without ever being specific or answering the question.”



You can continue to deny your different characters but all the evidence is there for anyone to see for themselves!
Once a person spends a little time studying your writing style and the different ways that you use to disguise your different characters, it becomes quite easy to spot another “Rumi!” Your Devil’s Advocates are much harder to distinguish! There is a couple that you’re using now that have fooled all but a few of us, even though they also fall into the description above!

We are the “Thorn” in your side and we’ll remain to be that thorn!

Who do you think you are? Are you some kind of police officer? Do you think anyone even likes you? You aren't a thorn. You have a tree up your butt and it shows.
For some time now I have been stating that your pe... (show quote)


Thank you Cynner!!! That information is very cogent with regard to Biden's stroke, after which he has been less capable cognitively; and his mental health is deteriorating quickly. I see no way that he can serve as President for four years. It is a tremendously stressful job that wears on the healthiest men. Comrade Harris will be President very soon.
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Dec 13, 2020 00:29:29   #
SSDD wrote:
Actually... If you weren't so lazy and incompetent, you would know that I DID post the evidence of the hesitation, but then what can we expect from a Trumplican? Since you do not have the intellectual capacity nor the work ethic to go seek it out for yourself in a post you certainly passed on the way to this point in this same topic, I will give you a link, check it or don't, your choice but if you choose not to go look at it, you need not pester me any longer for the evidence you refuse to acknowledge.

https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-201416-16.html#3557766
Actually... If you weren't so lazy and incompetent... (show quote)


Unbelievable!!!! You are still pushing BS about Trump. MY question is, and you have been avoiding it completely, ... what about Biden's refusal to condemn any radical extremists? There are none!!!! Biden is a racist and he refuses to condemn Antifa and the BLM who are his voting base. Do you understand that???? Or is that beyond your narrative? Trump has condemned ALL radical extremists, while Biden, Hillary, and the rest of your Democrat heroes refuse to condemn any violent extremists. They wouldn't want to offend their voting base.

Come on SS, stop defending these hateful Democrats. Show video of their condemnation of violent extremists, or just SHUT THE F*** UP.
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Dec 12, 2020 09:50:57   #
SSDD wrote:
If you say so, I posted the evidence, if you choose to ignore it, I can't help you.


Riiiight! Sure you did!!! But how could you post evidence when there is none? Biden is a racist who agrees with Hillary that Blacks are Super Predators. He and Bill Clinton policies put thousands of blacks in prison. And he claims that Antifa is an idea not a militant group. Guess what, Joe ..... ideas don't riot, loot, and burn. Ideas don't murder people.

So SS, looks like it is time you you to just STFU.
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Dec 12, 2020 09:40:02   #
Bad Bob wrote:


So infantile!!
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Dec 12, 2020 01:12:35   #
SSDD wrote:
Not opinion, he DOES readily denounce LW or supposed LW groups but when it is a RW group, he has to be harangued about it before he RELUCTANTLY denounces and even then, it isn't without the obligatory inclusion of some LW or suspected LW group or groups. Point out one time when Trump denounced a RW group WITHOUT including LW or suspected LW group(s).


Really SS, have you watched any of these videos?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qD47QFFkTU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4txFXtgqK18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLukCE3vwwA

You are so full of crap, your eyes are turning brown. But I have a request of you. I offered video of Trump condemning radical extremists. Now I want YOU to show video of Biden condemning radical extremists. He doesn't. Biden is a racist and he refuses to condemn Antifa and Marxist BLM because they are his voting base. Show us some proof, or shut up.
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Dec 12, 2020 01:05:31   #
Bad Bob wrote:


BB, do your mommy and daddy know what your are doing on the internet?
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Dec 9, 2020 09:50:23   #
cynner wrote:
White Supremacists loot, burn, murder, terrorize... Your Proud Boys are *standing by,* using the cover of the night and protests, and blaming it on the left. Most of us on the left just want to have a quality of life similar to the lives our parents.


Sorry chum, this summer's riots, looting, burning, and murder were committed by Antifa and BLM, not the Proud Boys. Check out some videos; Antifa and BLM proudly carried their hate signs in the riots. Open your eyes.

And I see that SS is still here pushing his hate and lies. He must not have a life; probably on the government dole. He stupidly claims that Trump never condemned white supremacy. Here are a few videos. Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qD47QFFkTU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4txFXtgqK18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLukCE3vwwA
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Dec 3, 2020 00:02:25   #
SSDD wrote:
You don't have to be left AT ALL to see Trump for what and who he is. Many Republicans have turned out against him, long standing very conservative Republicans. The ONLY people that haven't turned out against Trump are the fringe right it would seem.

As for Trump denouncing white supremacists, yes, he has, though it is ALWAYS delayed, with great reluctance very milquetoast and never without lumping other groups into the denouncement as a way to "water down" the denouncement. Of course he knows as well as others do that a fair number of his supporters ARE members of fringe hate groups and a fair few more aren't but would still be put off if he singled out white supremacists, white nationalist among other fringe hate groups.

Tell me, why is it that Trump so readily and so frequently demonizes SOME groups but is so reluctant to even denounce others? As for David Duke, He in 1991 condemned David Duke after David Duke's failed Louisiana gubernatorial attempt, he condemned David duke again in 2000 When he said, "David Duke just joined, a bigot, a racist, a problem. I mean, this is not exactly the people you want in your party.", yet in 2016, Trump didn't know anything about David Duke? Weren't you people giving Biden flack for his supposed "Dementia"? Remind me what are some of the symptoms of dementia... Isn't forgetting people one of the signs of dementia? So... Either Trump lied in 2016, but then you people say he doesn't lie, or he has dementia, which one are YOU puttin' money on?

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CGaL7mqn20F/?utm_source=ig_embed (Trump's comments on Duke in 1991)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr-K2kqRsmQ (Trump's comments on Duke in 2000)

So what happened to his memory in the 2016 interview excerpt below?

https://youtu.be/Gz2ETH8Gpr4?t=33 (Trump's Comments on Duke AFTER Duke endorses Trump in 2016)

He did later reluctantly denounce Duke, but he hesitated badly. Even Breitbart lambasted Trump on that one.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2016/02/28/donald-trump-has-known-about-klansman-david-duke-a-man-he-claimed-to-know-nothing-about-since-at-least-the-year-2000donald-trump-has-known-about-klansman-david-duke-a-man-he-claim/

But yes, you are right, Trump DID repeatedly denounce Duke, he just faltered when it counted. He DID eventually denounce Duke's support of him in 2016, but not nearly as quickly, harshly and strongly as he should have and that he had in the past. Of course one could expect it, he commented about Bush's denouncement of Duke as a mistake. The reason he considered it a mistake is that he thought it would lose Bush some of the Republican support, which is why Trump faltering on denouncing Duke in 2016 wasn't really any surprise, those that know Trump would have expected it. Which suggests that Trump was merely lying about not knowing anything about Duke.

So... Which is it? Is Trump a liar or suffering from dementia?
You don't have to be left AT ALL to see Trump for ... (show quote)


Gee SS, 70 million people who voted for Trump are the far right fringe????????? It is so laughable that to you everyone with whom you disagree is the far right fringe. And every media outlet with which you disagree is fringe media. I think that Trump Derangement Syndrome has seriously scrambled your brain. You need to see a shrink. The boogieman from the right is coming for you.

Look pal, the radical right is to be condemned, but they are not the problem right now. The radical left IS the problem. Why can't you deniers admit that? Thousands of stores have been looted, millions in damage was inflicted on burned buildings, and people have been murdered by Antifa and BLM. Biden refused to condemn them because he knew they were an important part of his voting base. So stop making a big stinking deal about a couple votes from white supremacists. Trump made it clear that he did not care about their support, he condemned them. WHY CAN'T YOU, BIDEN, AND THE REST OF OUR HATEFUL DEMOCRATS DO THE SAME?
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Dec 2, 2020 15:35:20   #
SSDD wrote:
As I have said, you are so far to the right, EVERYTHING seems fringe left to you, that is YOUR issue, not mine, not MSM and not anyone or anything else. None of those sites you listed are fringe left, everyone but the fringe right know this, it is ONLY delusional, low intellect, reality challenged, RW whackadoodles that get it confused.

As for your question at the end... Do you ever get tired of answering the same question over and over and over again, especially since those asking the question love ignoring the answer or calling B.S. as soon as you give it? Yeah, you can just go ahead and keep on wondering.

That or you can just look back through our conversation, in this very conversation, in a posted reply to YOU I answered that very question. Gotta love how you completely ignore anything you don't want to hear, anything that doesn't fit with the narrative you would like to present.

Your answerr was right here, https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-201416-10.html#3541217, I was pretty sure I had already told YOU in the past and it wasn't even that long ago and in this thread even. It was YESTERDAY I posted that. How lazy and ignorant can one get?

Oh wait... Yes, NotAnEconomistDon is far too lazy to re-read (if he ever read it the first time) that whole post to discover the answer buried within, better C/P the specific portion so that he can ignore an even smaller bit of text.

"But then I am not a Trumplican, disgruntled by the fact that Trump did so poorly in that debate, as we knew he would. I am also not a big supporter of Biden even though as a centrist, I should be. Biden may be a Democrat, but he is a very moderate Democrat. I like moderates, both Republican AND Democrat. Do I or have I ever voted for a Democrat? Quite a few. Have I ever voted for a Republican? A fair few, admittedly not as many as the Democrats I have voted for but... Have I ever voted for someone from a party NOT Democrat or Republican? No, and for good reason. In this two party system we have, a vote for a third party candidate or a candidate NOT affiliated with a party is a wasted vote or to put another way, a vote for the winning party since the vote was in fact wasted on someone with little to no chance of winning it effectively didn't go to the winning party's opponent."

Now, can you see that? Do I need to print it out and staple it to your forehead? Stop being so obtuse, it isn't such a good look on ANYONE!




Edit: Unlike you, I prefer honesty.
As I have said, you are so far to the right, EVERY... (show quote)


Sorry for the delay, SS. I actually have a life and am quite busy. I notice that you did quote that bologna, deep in the post that put me to sleep with its pabulum. Maybe you aren't far left, but you are certainly not center or moderate. Your Trump Derangement Syndrome blinds you to much truth. So sad.

If you really think that Wallace treated Trump fairly in the debate, go back and watch his attack on Trump concerning white supremacy. Like so many Trump haters, he had to take his turn asking Trump to denounce white supremacy. Well dah! Trump has denounced white supremacy and David Duke dozens of times. Trump haters treat him like a dog ordering him to sit up, roll over, denounce white supremacy, .... Trump needs a recording that he can play each time to save him the effort. So Trump denounced, but went on to ask why Wallace does not ask Biden to denounce radical extremists, especially Antifa and BLM who committed millions of dollars worth of looting, property damage, and murder this summer. Crickets from Wallace. But Biden piped up that Antifa is not an organization but an idea. WOW, guess what Joe, ideas don't loot, ideas don't burn buildings, and ideas don't murder.
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Nov 30, 2020 10:14:46   #
SSDD wrote:
I understand, being so far off the right side of the political scale, a centrist CAN seem to be a leftists, but that is solely due to your skewed perspective.


Spoken by one who thinks the actual center is far right. You go on listening to your fringe left sources like Politico, Snopes, Washington Post, NY Times, and NPR radio. It's sad that a few of these, like NPR and NY Times, used to be honest and well respected news organizations. They have been poisoned by the left as fascism overtakes America. It doesn't matter for me; I'm old and living comfortably on what I earned when capitalism was strong. But I AM concerned for my children who must try to make it in a world controlled by fake and censored news, political correctness, identity politics (bigotry and racism), high taxes, failed economics, hatred and violence, and big government control of everything.

Question --- if you ARE a centrist as you think, have you ever voted for a Republican? Be honest.
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Nov 30, 2020 00:27:08   #
SSDD wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News#Pro-Republican_and_pro-Trump_bias

Okay, while I do not typically support using opinion to support one's own opinions... Since perception IS entirely based upon opinion, Isn't opinion the best "factual" support one can produce?

https://www.quora.com/Is-Fox-conservative-or-liberal

https://www.answers.com/Q/Is_FOX_news_liberal_or_conservative

Well, that covers your first unfounded claim.

Okay, now I guess we deal with both my "lack of observation" and the "Chris Wallace allegation leveled by you, since they appear to be in connection with one another. Let's start by putting the facts on the table. Your perception and the perception shared by many other Trumplicans, that Chris Wallace was biased against Trump during thew debate he moderated. That is nothing more than you and the other Trumplicans being, As many ignorant and immature Trumplican would say, "Butt hurt" that Trump and his buffoonery performed so poorly. Chris Wallace did a damned good job of attempting to keep the debate on topic and under proper control. It wasn't HIS fault that Trump is unable to control himself, that Trump can NOT act like an adult, That Trump DOES NOT properly prepare for a debate, that Trump's incompetence during his presidency left him open for some tough debate moments that Trump, even if he weren't such a buffoon, even if he were a "very stable genius", as Trump likes to claim he is, wouldn't be able to honestly defend.

We will chalk your false allegations against Chris Wallace to hyper-partisanship and that is a HUGE gift, I actually strongly believe it is due to dishonesty as well as hyper-partisanship.

https://www.thewrap.com/chris-wallace-biden-trump-debate-performance/

Is Chris Wallace a registered Democrat? Yes, is that a crime? No. Can someone that has registered with one party or the other be a fair and just moderator? Yes, they can be, if they choose to be. Is he the only one, Journalist, moderator, average Joe Blow American citizen, to be a registered voter affiliated with a party? If you believe he is... Hey, off the subject, just out of curiosity, you wouldn't perchance be interested in purchasing a bridge or perhaps some beach front property that I just happen to own would you?

I actually watched part of the debate live, the rest I had to scrounge for on the internet because, as much as I would have liked to catch the WHOLE thing live, not all of us have such empty lives, some of us still have lives to run. Anywho... I DID see the entire debate-ish maybe, not sure if even watching the rest on the computer if I managed to watch intensely enough for the entirety because even watching on the internet, distractions happen. Both Biden AND Trump talked out of turn, Trump just happened to do it a bit more frequently and aggressively. I saw no obvious signs of gross bias, to be honest, it appeared that Wallace did a VERY fine job of keeping bias OUT OF the debate.. But then I am not a Trumplican, disgruntled by the fact that Trump did so poorly in that debate, as we knew he would. I am also not a big supporter of Biden even though as a centrist, I should be. Biden may be a Democrat, but he is a very moderate Democrat. I like moderates, both Republican AND Democrat. Do I or have I ever voted for a Democrat? Quite a few. Have I ever voted for a Republican? A fair few, admittedly not as many as the Democrats I have voted for but... Have I ever voted for someone from a party NOT Democrat or Republican? No, and for good reason. In this two party system we have, a vote for a third party candidate or a candidate NOT affiliated with a party is a wasted vote or to put another way, a vote for the winning party since the vote was in fact wasted on someone with little to no chance of winning it effectively didn't go to the winning party's opponent.

Okay, so, we have discussed what? All four of the allegations? The only one you got "rightish" is the fact that Fox news' rating are plummeting, you just applied faulty logic to WHY that is. Even though you got the WHY wrong, I will credit you with one whole point out for the "Fox news' ratings are falling" claim, so, one out of four, not a good track record. But wait... There is another claim you made... The failed campaign smear against Biden. Yes, the FBI did admit to having a laptop purported to be Hunter Biden's. Let me ask you this, If I were to take a laptop that I no longer care about, put what looks to be "damning evidence" connecting you with an alleged crime, took it to the FBI or called them and told them I had it and that it contained "damning evidence" of your alleged "heinous crimes", does that now mean that you DO in fact own the laptop and that you DID in fact commit those "heinous crimes" I am alleging? The FBI has neither confirmed nor denied whether the laptop did in fact belong to Hunter himself. The only ones "positively" linking Hunter to that laptop or even confirming the existence and legitimacy of "damning evidence contain whereon said laptop are the crackpot nut jobs and their preferred "news" sources.

Do I have to remind you of the fact that IF only one side of the aisle is reporting on a story, especially if ONLY the furthest fringe of the media sources from that one side of the aisle, are reporting it, then it is almost certainly FAKE NEWS! That coupled with the fact that many sources have debunked the claim, the computer repair store owner, a staunch Trump supporter according to several sources, who initially was reported as the one that signed the laptop into the store but later said he wasn't even there when the laptop came in, he is even saying he can't say for certain the laptop actually belongs to Hunter. There have been many holes shot into that CT and then we have the fact that the FBI supposedly has had said laptop for over a year and nothing concrete is happening? On top of that we have the fact that Giuliani even told us he was planning an "October surprise", Rudy tried real hard to peddle his story to any questionable RW media sources and was turned down by everyone EXCEPT NY Post, Even Fox declined the story. Couple that with the fact that EVEN THOUGH we were told there would be another damning release of information "tomorrow", tomorrow never came. The bogus campaign smear disappeared as fast as it came to light and with zero explanation within days of election day with nothing to show for all that "damning evidence". How many clues does it take to get a Trumplican to see that they got played?

Okay, you win, I will post some links for you.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/08/obamagate-hunter-biden-laptop-434984

https://apnews.com/article/trump-questions-joe-biden-hunter-biden-88e27ca2b5e6d7c821d9a6a0ba0e04f8

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News#Pro-Republi... (show quote)


Yawn!!! Sorry SS; you went to so much trouble to justify your nonsense, but it put me to sleep. I get so tired of reading Leftist rationalization. It becomes mind-numbing after a while. One line in your pabulum stood out --- IF only one side of the aisle is reporting on a story, especially if ONLY the furthest fringe of the media sources from that one side of the aisle, are reporting it, then it is almost certainly FAKE NEWS! THAT is what we get from leftist sites. We don't get the whole story from the left; we get only the sanitized version, missing the parts that contradict their narrative.

Give it up SS. You can't deny that much of the information came from Hunter's BUSINESS PARTNER, and the laptop was confirmed by the FBI as authentic. Those tow pieces are two more than Democrats had to persecute Trump for two years, wasting $30 million in the Russian Collusion farce.

But I lament again -- it will all be swept under the carpet if Biden makes it to the White House. Fascism will win again and gain more power.
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Nov 30, 2020 00:08:45   #
SSDD wrote:
Nope, anything NOT based in reality tends to come from fringe media, you know, the sites that post dis-information and lies mixed with a healthy dose of CTs. You NEVER wonder why it is that so many articles/stories, posted on certain sites never get reported on by legitimate media... Err... I mean rino media and lyin' leftists MSM.

Please tell me, why DO you fear reality so badly? What about reality scares you so much? I have heard that if you expose yourself to limited doses of that which you fear and gradually increase the dosage over time and carefully ensure you do not exceed your discomfort limit for too long or to too extreme a level, you can become adjusted to tolerate exposure to that which terrifies you. It shouldn't hurt to try it and who knows, it may be of great benefit to you.
Nope, anything NOT based in reality tends to come ... (show quote)


You are obviously talking about YOUR biased version of reality. What about actual reality? Oh yea, you wouldn't know anything about that because you limit yourself to the leftist sanitized version of reality.
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Nov 28, 2020 10:34:32   #
SSDD wrote:
Okay then, let's have a link already. RW is permissible but not fringe RW.

Never mind, I ran a search before hitting send, MSN.com has the RW fringe Daily Mail article, all others on page one were RW fringe media including Fox.


Guess what genius, Fox is no longer right wing. Rupert's sons are now in charge and moving the media giant to the center. All daily programming is now left wing, while the evening still holds the three most popular news personalities in cable TV - Hannity, Carlson, and Ingraham. It would be a huge mistake to abandon those cash cows. Maybe yo didn't notice Fox's leftist Chris Wallace attacking Trump in the debate. Fox ratings are falling with the loss of facts and truth in daytime content.

Anyway, here are two articles about Hunter, one by CNN (Communist News Network) and FOX. The CNN article admits (sort of) the truth about Hunter's laptop without getting into damning details. The FOX report quotes the Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe who verified that the laptop was not part of a Russian disinformation campaign targeting Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, as claimed by pencilneck Shiff. Furthermore, another senior federal law enforcement official claims that the emails are "authentic".

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/21/politics/fbi-russia-disinformation/index.html
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-purported-hunter-biden-laptop-sources

But I guess it doesn't matter anymore. The incoming Biden administration will sweep all of this under the rug. He and his son will go on reaping millions from China and the Ukraine in a pay-for-play arrangement.
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Nov 28, 2020 01:35:08   #
American Vet wrote:
Does that ‘heartless uncaring’ include record low unemployment for minorities?


These people wallow in their ignorance. They love to play the race card hoping to portray Republicans a racists. They are obviously ignorant of the truth that Republicans have given minorities everything while Democrats have given them nothing. Republicans freed the slaves that were owned by Democrats in the south; gave citizenship to blacks, gave voting rights to blacks; passed the Civil Rights act of 1957 and then the Civil Rights act of 1964. Democrats formed the KKK in the 1800s to resist freedoms given to blacks by Republicans; they passed Jim Crow laws in the south to keep uppity blacks in their place; and they split out the Dixiecrat party in the 1950s to run a racist against Eisenhower. Strom Thurmond, a Democrat, holds the record for the longest filibuster in Senate history for his resistance to the 1957 Civil Rights Act. Robert Burd, a Democrat, holds the record for the second longest filibuster in Senate history for his resistance to the 1964 Civil Rights Act. LBJ, the most racist President of our lifetime, signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, commenting that "We will have those ni**ers voting Democrat for the next 200 years". Obama, the most racist President since LBJ, fanned the flames of racism dropping racial happiness from 70 percent to 40 percent. Also, he ended funding for the Welfare-to-Work Program that was giving federal funded job training to welfare recipients, a high percentage of which were minorities. Minorities were getting off welfare and into life-sustaining jobs during the Bush administration. That ended for eight years until Trump entered the White House and put a priority on job training and jobs for minorities.

Democrats know very little of these things. Our education system is failing.

For our uninformed Democrats, the man in this picture is Robert Burd, who holds the record for the second longest filibuster in Senate history, for opposing the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Hillary called him her mentor. Also, Hillary lovingly called blacks "super predators", and Joe Biden concurred.


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