As per usual, you side step the major point to repeat your mindless mantra. Address the point.

Oh, yez. I've known a few people who were truly "wonderful" next door neighbors "wonderful" to chat with. However, "wonderful" proved to be irrelevant as one turned out to be a child molester and a couple others drug dealers. As a matter of fact, this story gets repeated quite often in the news media - "wonderful" chit-chatters and neighborhood gladhanders who donate to "worthy" causes.
So, how does one decide who is truly a "good ol' boy"?
My point is that you can find any criminal class out there that can be found to have been a public persona of high standing, so because you have few homos who make nice conversation, donate a little pocket change to a worthy cause, or help an old lady change a flat tire doesn't mean squat. Anyone can put on a good face.
Justifying homosexuality in the name of "love" is producing all kinds of wonderful results. I predicted a long time ago that this lame justification for homos would pave the way for much worse and so it has as the various factions of bestiality and child sex promoters have gained a lot of ground from it. Congratulations! You opened the door to a Pandora's box. Slime and evil will never stay boxed up once given any kind of a green light or foot in the door.

The ACLU can't seem to make up its mind over exactly what it stands for. While ruthless in fighting against anything at all having to do with Christianity, it has begun facilitating the rights and spreading of Islam. They don't get a penney from me.

quote=permafrost]I am going to post a letter from the ACLU, I would like you to read it and then give your thought on how good or bad the organisations is and how that affects our lives and politics..

The tide is turning.

Earlier this week, a federal judge ruled that the NSA's "Orwellian" mass telephone spying program likely violates the Fourth Amendment. And yesterday, in a second major blow, President Obama's own NSA review panel also called for an end to the bulk collection of our private phone data.

Here is what I know — if we fight for what is right, if we seize every opening to make progress, and if we never, ever yield to setbacks, our work in the defense of freedom will pay off in the long run.

Right now, that is exactly what is happening in our efforts to end the NSA's dragnet surveillance program. And contributions from supporters like you mean we can keep seizing EVERY opportunity for victory without stopping to find the resources to take action.

We need to keep pressing to end out-of-control NSA surveillance. Donate now to help sustain the ACLU's "keep fighting until we win" efforts to defend our fundamental freedoms. (Do not forward: This link will open a page with your information already filled in.)

Challenging secret surveillance programs isn't easy — just ask any ACLU attorney who has been working on privacy and national security issues for the last decade.

That is why Edward Snowden's revelations about the NSA were such a game-changer.

When they came to light, our lawyers were able to jump into action — because they'd been there before and because we had the funds to act. And we know exactly what to do now to make sure this un-American and unconstitutional program is brought to an end. The tide is turning.[/quote]

The two-faced gay community at its finest.

Excellent appraisal. I see America as more equivalent to ancient Judah, or according to Jonathan Cahn in his incredible book, "Harbinger", ancient Israel the northern kingdom. Israel was taken out by the Assyrians despite having been thoroughly warned (harbingers) by God - nine times.

Cahn highly details the exact same path and harbingers laid out by God to the United States since 9/11. All nine harbingers have been identically delivered to and ignored by America exactly as ancient Israel did 2500 years ago. The book is delivered through Isaiah 9:10 and stupefyingly quoted in blind ignorance by three of our national leaders including Obama in 2008.

Our country's enemies have all publicly declared the cakewalk destroying America will be. Even the Muslims have declared the non-necessity of anymore militant action. Our population can't fawn and cowtow hard enough in putting out the "welcome" sign and doormat. Our enemies dance with glee as the rest of the once free world looks on in horror and wonder at our incredible stupidity.

Dr. Stan Monteith writes a brilliantly researched book called "Brotherhood of Darkness" that lays out the historical roots of America's demise that go back as far as the late 1800's.

Our destruction won't require a slaughter. Taking us down is well under way without that requirement. Our military has been decimated and emasculated and our campuses are overrun with every vile element imaginable. It's truly a cakewalk. The "Assyrians" that took out Israel 2500 years ago are of the same stock as our president. The enemy walked right in the open door and openly took control.

Yes, I completely understand your frustration. It's like trying to talk to a door or tape recorder when talking to a Lib/Progressive (oxymoron)/Marxist. True frustration is realizing that the brainwashing tactics the commies used during the Korean War against captured American soldiers (and that required torture and various other mind altering strategies) is being preached by our news media and university professors and being sucked up by non-tortured citizens as high intellect. Tragic to see how far the American mind has degenerated in its ability to objectively and rationally think.

We now have a nation of mindless parrots incapable of researching any political topic and applying objective thinking.

I have to agree with you wholeheartedly. It's so amazing to see the mindless brainwashing tactics the communists used 50 years ago on captured American POW's during the Korean War now working so flawlessly against an incredibly ignorant American population. The American Dream has morphed into an instrument of the devil. Our people became indifferent to anything but self-serving and lifelong entertainment. The results are now devastating as the atheists, gays, Marxists, and Muslims gleefully spew their simplistic rhetoric as the highest principles of today's "intellect".

The morons of day time talk show hosts spew their populist nonthink as if it is some kind of highbrow thought undiscovered until modern times. It would be hilarious except for the fact that our people are so hopelessly devoid of any semblance of objective perspective that they now follow along like a herd of sheep. (My apologies to the sheep.)

The "cold war" is not over. It just did the usual communist shape-shift thing now disguised into the ongoing morphology known variously as Liberalism or Progressivism. The latter two terms being the standard Marxist tactic of butchering the very definition of terms.

Greetings also. I'm finding quite a bit of frustration trying to download the "private message" thing as it repeatedly refuses to "run" despite my dozens of efforts. Nevertheless, I'm diving in whether or not I can receive private messages.

I am 67 years old, retired, a widower, and very active in numerous forums all over the country. Received an invite to "One Political" the other day, so here I am. I live just outside of Spokane, Wa. Ta-da.

Ok, think I have the general hang of this forum now. Ok, the "quote" thing didn't take, but this was supposed to be a response to Graham. I'll get it all down eventually.

I started back at the beginning and laboriously read every post especially between you and your adversary (De'voe -?). My guess is you are an older black guy who doesn't wish to see the changes this country has made. I can fully appreciate the painful past you have had, but if you want to truly get ahead of the game and actually accomplish things for your kids programs, learn to critically read. It took me some hard effort to get there myself, but the outcome made it worth it. You missed some very critically important points that you chose to ignore. Number one, white America voted Obama in not once but stupidly, twice. Number two, whites by a large majority have been willing for decades to powerfully help and bend over backwards to help anyone desiring to shelve the hate rhetoric and make big efforts to help themselves.

My experience is that the education as the Orientals have found out and proved is there for everyone, but blacks repeatedly sneer at it while jiving through school hallways of their schools despising everything except the bad boy image. Their parents back them, pay the consequences, and still rage against whitey as their problem. "Whitey" continues to cough up more money, grant worthless degrees to undeserving blacks, grasp desperately at more worthless programs, and try to make square pegs fit in round holes by spoon-feeding terribly unqualified blacks through college programs they have no business in.

On the other hand, you have blacks who work hard, study hard, shelve the bad boy crap, go to college, and make very successful names for themselves and great lives for their families. The choice is there. Take your pick, but quit blaming whitey and the few scraps of racism that will always be there between both races.

Racism has always existed in EVERY culture, race, and nation on planet earth. White America didn't even begin to invent it but did generally practice it much more civilly than many predecessors including the black Africans who practiced ruthless slaveries upon their own, cannibalized, head-hunted, and ate their neighbors genitals. So, my point is, let's keep some honest and objective sense of perspective here.

Again, learn to read and OBJECTIVELY (shelve the feelings thing) and your life and work with kids will soar with success. I truly understand hard beginnings. It took me the first fifty years of my life to learn some very hard lessons. "Feelings" get in the way and destroy effective results. It's tough, but you will benefit enormously.

Mandela's own effectiveness and universal love by all was a tribute to his almost impossible ability to forgive, forget, and objectively move on. He became one of history's greatest of men beyond just what he accomplished in his own country.

There is never anything new in a painful life or its beginnings. Those same beginnings destroyed the first fifty years of my life. I made the decision to finally rid myself of letting a painful past determine my decisions and ability to make tough but sound decisions.

Any racism left in America is minimal and practiced at least as heavily by blacks as by anyone. The politicians of both the Republican and Democrat parties are using tactics as old as the mountains and hills - race baiting. Keep the hatreds alive and use it to garner votes while giving lip service to real results.

The terms Liberal and Progressive are merely the shape-shifting tactics used by the communists of old. Make a bad name for yourself and then simply change your label and tactical warfare. The "cold war" is truly over, but the Marxists are alive and well. Reading Obama's own book and all of his history is extremely informative for anyone who knows how to think for himself. He is a Muslim with legions of Marxists as mentors and friends. He's using the tactics of Saul Alinsky (Rules of Engagement) and another mentor/friend Francis Fox Piven (Cloward-Piven) flawlessly and playing millions for the dupes they are. He's a proven homosexual who's ex-gay friends from his college and post college years mysteriously died under very questionable circumstances just before entering into the presidential race. He has almost zero qualifications as a politician prior to the 2008 presidential run. Learn to truly think and ask yourself how such a man who has also played the Chicago thug political game flawlessly ever got into the game.

The answer is that he like all of our presidents of the past 30 to 40 years are hand selected by a group called the CFR with heavy influence from the Tri-Lateral Commission. Do yourself a favor - all of you so-called "Liberals" or whatever other populist label you choose, and do some honest research of your own. Set aside your little play books and Communist Manifesto manuals, do the research on your own, and make your own conclusions. Politics has become extremely dangerous with some very powerful players pulling the strings behind the scenes. It's comically simple to trot out lip service to popular causes. The sheeple fall for the most moronic and heavily orchestrated games you can imagine. It's so easy to manipulate the trashing of names without any real factual content and the Democrat/leftist/Libs and their lackey pretenders the Republicans are playing you all like finely tuned fiddles.

"Obamacare" is not "law". It was rammed down our throats by several illegal and unconstitutional means by lying thugs who couldn't care less about the poor. The real purpose is absolute and dictatorial power. Obama clearly lied through his teeth on so many major points it isn't funny, but few of you care beyond the stupid lip service he gives to the poor and under-insured. Insurance rates have gone up just as they knew they would. Hundreds of thousands have lost their insurance just as they knew they would and tens of millions more will lose it within a year. The insurance companies though as greedy as claimed are not at fault. You've worn out using Bush as your patsy, but not to worry, there are plenty of scapegoats to go around. Obama can go on blaming everyone but himself, but the plan wasn't for it to work in the first place.

READ everything you can get your hands on, and relearn how to think on your own. Everyone set aside your little party manuals and start from scratch. Our nation is going down and the blame is going to fly everywhere but where it belongs - first of all to the American people who let themselves fall into ignorance and then be spoon-fed some of the most ridiculous lies any population in history has bought into.

I know, I'm a racist, bigoted, etc., but for the record, there are some dynamite blacks out there who would make incredible presidents. I would vote for any one of them at the drop of a hat. You just fell for the one that the real powers shoveled to you because they knew the American public was over ripe for any black candidate they put up ... and boy did you fall hook, line, and sinker for the whole enchilada.

Put the whole picture together folks. You really fell hard for the biggest liar in all of America's history. It was so easy to soft-soap the sell because absolutely no one did their homework just as they knew you wouldn't. Obama's history and real self was so easy to find right from the beginning, but the American boob-tube generation did just as they were primed to do and with absolute and total ignorance.

Man, this quote thing really got botched. The following isn't mine but supposed to be the quote I was riding in on.

ote=graham2252]Bojester, I did not thank you for your comment before so I am doing so now and thanks for the warning because it surely came true and these guys are brainwashed to the point they can't see the anger within them that hinders them from showing compassion for those less fortunate than themselves and they attack anyone that does not see things their way. I started this forum to talk about racism in American and somehow it turned into handouts or lack of handouts is racism on the part of those affected. Those on the right see any questions about cutting food stamps,and other programs as racism. Now I know I see racism in this country and to say it is not there is crazy. To say it does not exitst in the new voting changes is ludicris. To not notice it in the wages paid by big companys is unexceptable. I do know this, if it smells like bs, if you step in bs and when you hear bs then you konw it is bull S--t. Love to hear from you.[/quote]

Getting used to this new (for me) site, so this is a test to see how it shows up. Will give it another shot after eyeballing result.

It's a pity so many of you have been taken in by Obama's lip service to the "poor and disadvantaged". It's the same strategy the Marxists have always used in every country they have steam rolled over.
Read Saul Alinsky's "Rules of Engagement". Obama taught these rules and the Cloward-Piven game plan back during his community activist days. He's playing it all out flawlessly and those of you who seem to think to think he's your savior are fatally doomed. His efforts to purposely destroy the country under the above mentioned plans are blatantly obvious to the well informed. His extreme efforts to put as many people as possible onto the food stamp program regardless of qualifications or need are but one small proof of his real intents. Rampant and totally unregulated immigration is another. Trillions of dollars worth of debt spent into oblivion and with almost nil for positive results add to the melee.
The ludicrous attempts to foment racial discord in the nation twice over trivial and absolutely uncalled for circumstances is part and parcel of the strategies also. Chaos is the plan folks. Martial law is the next step. All kinds of things are being orchestrated to make it look like "natural circumstances" will bring about food riots, financial collapse, and social disorder.
Obama is a master liar along the same lines as Hilary Clinton. He doesn't give any more a fig about the Liberals than the Dems or Reps. They're tools to be used, and ... so are you who fawn after him thinking that he cares a wit.
He's destroyed our space program feeding out astronauts to Russia and castrated the military just as any good Marxist/Muslim would be expected to, but even that doesn't fully explain the real Obama.
Ask yourselves, why does a man who had absolutely no political credentials at all (the Illinois senatorial office was a complete sham) suddenly skyrocket into national prominence in a presidential race?
As for those of you who simplistically call the race card, I for one would have voted for any one of many much more highly qualified blacks in a heart beat. Obama's candidacy in 2008 was extremely manipulated and based on zero qualifications other than to suit the purposes of his puppet masters.

Tks & I might add, there's nothing really stupid about the way the administration is carrying out the game plan. Obama is brilliantly and very effectively carrying out the Saul Alinsky "Rules of Engagement" and the Cloward-Piven strategy. All are designed to destroy the country as we know it.
Evil.

The "libs" are actually irrelevant. Obama and his administration don't harken to the Libs so much as ride in on their power train along with all the other power trains he gives lip service to.
Obama is being used as a puppet who in turn uses the Libs. The smarter and more aware amongst them realize even now that he has lied to them as well as the rest of us. The Libs served their purpose for him and are being discarded along with the rest of us as he assimilates power and their usefulness expires.
The Dems, Reps, & Libs all alike are "beneath" his majesty.