Low income children was never in jeopardy. Like I said for many years there have been programs for poor children, women pregnant with child and breastfeeding. Thats one of the biggest lies of all. This was never instituted to help children, it was instituted to control yours amd mine income, and take away our personal freedoms, aka liberty.

It's sad to see people in hardship positions. Although as one that grew up poor, without a father. I remember surplus food and no insurance.

There has always been help outside of what we would call health insurance. We went to the Health Department for vaxcines, emergency rooms are still available in emergency conditions. Until last year we had our own doctor that we paid with cash when we didn't have insurance. What I think is outragous is the hoax that we can't exist without insurance. This program has manipulated many people out of their own insurance because of cost. Caused many struggling small businesses to cut back their employees hours who really needed the income. These are friends of mine not statistics in a file on some webpage.

I don't know of anyone taking food off your table, or displaying hate like that

I wouldn't mind if the staffer read it and summerized it at first, but before the signing it should read.

Yea, learning curves. Then hands don't obey.

I believe that's the reason we are in the insurance mess we are in. Many of our representatives signed bills not knowing the small print.

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From what I see we weren't talking about anything that would have anything with denominationalism. It was Scripture alone, deno
minations seperate people. As Christians we need to emphasize that we agree on most things. I don't agree with everything catholic, but the Pope does inspire me at times. Our spirits should bear witness to the things of God.

Isn't the proper way to represent us is to read what you sign?

I don't believe that they necessarily contradict each other. When the Church first started, many of the ways it ran would seem strange to us. Many sold everything they had and gave all to the Church, and lived communally. Similar concept was tried here for two years, It didn't work. I feel we have responsibility for the needy that can't help themselves, but if they're lazy or if they cause their situations, they may have to sleep in their own beds.

I would like to establish first, I'm not a member of the teaparty, but I am conservitive in my beliefs. However there are some things I see I feel are wrong the only one that interfered with insurance was the mandates made by the President. Insurance companies were forced to change their policies, employers had to cut the hours given. It's easy to pass the blame, but I have friends that this happened to and saw it first hand.

Not necessarily, we know that God was able to speak anything into existence. Jesus commanded spirits, sent them into swine, raised Lazarus from the dead just by commandment.

In Gen. 2:7 I would never associate my breath with the breath of the Almighty. This was imparting of the spirit into the form of dust. If my breath was the same I coild do the same thing as God, making man of my own. Also in the days of the forming of the laws of the Torah. Women along with children were treated like property, hence paying for a virgin later in Exodust.

Yes, this did weed out the lazy. The lazy should receive nothing.

Octive9, I read what you wrote about abortion. Your twist of calling Adam a fetus until the breath of life was to say the least was interesting. There is another place in scriptures that addresses this issue, or at least the death of a fetus. Exodus 22:22,23 gives the only time where a woman should be pregnant. If anyone causes by violence or trauma the death of the child (fetus) is guilty of equal to murder and shall be put to death. This was from the Torah, the law at Jesus' time. Jesus had no problem with the law, just the unjust actions of the Pharisetical leaders. As in the gospel where the woman caught in adultry in John 8.