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Nov 15, 2015 11:57:44   #
missinglink wrote:
Sit down, shut up.
You as well Jelun !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There is a small group on this forum who are not capable of intelligent discourse.

Shouting orders and insults is all you are capable of.
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Nov 15, 2015 11:54:32   #
SamDawkins wrote:
Sometimes things are just what they appear to be.

The Principle of Plurality - Plurality should not be posited without necessity
The Principle of Parsimony - It is pointless to do with more what is done with less


And many times things are not what we have been told they are:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=71c_1311362426

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHeYFTPG4KQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRaezLTU2a0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_4X8OVL5vo
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Nov 15, 2015 11:39:04   #
EL wrote:
Wake up!!!


I'm trying to wake you and your ilk up.

Think about what Dr. Barrett wrote.

Here is the author being interrogated by Sean Hannity.
He presents his case so well, Alan Colmes has to rescue Hannity at the end. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzIzoD-MhIE
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Nov 15, 2015 11:33:40   #
NorthernLight wrote:
Just thought I'd stop over on this site to see if you're defending the Muslim terrorists again. You're nothing if not consistent, Larry.


When Muslims were falsely blamed for 9/11, it opened my eyes to every other similar Terrorist attack which would likely be falsely blamed on Muslims. There are many of them and none of them benefit Muslims. All the false flag terrorist attacks benefit those who profit from keeping the bogus war on terror going. You have said the WTC towers were brought down with explosives, yet you won't go so far as to admit that Muslims could not have placed those explosives.
Here's the evidence I have put together which shows the most likely perpetrators:

1. Zionist Larry Silverstein leased the World Trade Towers only weeks before the attacks. He insured them for terrorist attacks and attempted to collect double claiming there were two attacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein

2. Silverstein collected over $4 billion in insurance payments on an investment of less than $120 million.
http://911review.com/attack/wtc/index.html

3. Silverstein normally had breakfast every day in a restaurant at the top of one of the towers. His son and daughter also worked in one of the towers. All three found reasons not to go to work on 9/11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm0PxzdHhPc

4. Silverstein said in a PBS filmed interview that he and the NYC fire dept decided to "pull" building 7 on the afternoon of 9/11. Wiring for explosive demolition takes weeks if not months. Why would the building which offices CIA, Secret Service, Guiliani's Office of Emergency Management and IRS be pre-wired for demolition? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

Silverstein refuses to identify the fire chief he claims he talked to about "pulling" the building.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

5. Silverstein was close friends with Ariel Sharon, Bibi Netanyahu and Ehud Barack.
http://iamthewitness.com/haaretzdaily-Up-in-smoke.html
http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/larry-silverstein-was-close-friends-netanyahu-sharon-barak
http://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it

6. Five Israelis were arrested after filming and celebrating the towers coming down. FBI interrogation revealed they were Mossad agents. They were deported and one of them later said in a TV interview that they were there to film the event. Therefore, they knew well ahead of time that it was going to happen. http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw

7. Hundreds of Israeli spies were rounded up and deported right after 9/11. Many of them were posing as art students in the area where the alleged hijackers were training in Florida.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbkQddEDPs0

8. $2.3 trillion was announced missing from Pentagon accounting while Bush appointee Dov Zakheim was in charge of Pentagon accounting. The missing funds were announced by Donald Rumsfeld the day before 9/11 and totally forgotten in the turmoil after 9/11.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpSBUgbxBU

9. Dov Zakheim is a Zionist and a dual U.S./Israel citizen. Before being appointed Pentagon CFO, Zakheim was CEO of SPS International, part of System Planning Corporation, a defense contractor majoring in electronic warfare technologies, including remote-controlled aircraft systems, and the notorious Flight Termination System (FTS) technology that could hijack even a hijacked plane and land or crash it wherever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXLmAiNYRoE

10. Zakheim sent 32 767s to Florida in 2001 to be converted to refueling tankers. 767s are the same type planes that hit Towers I and II.
http://911review.org/brad.com/batcave/Dov_Zakheim_911.html
http://www.dailypaul.com/153527/dov-zakheim-and-911-from-freedom-of-information-act-request

11. Many of the members of PNAC who signed the letter describing the need for a new Pearl Harbor were Zionists including Dov Zakheim, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, Elliot Abrams, Scooter Libby and William Kristol.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/nc-pilger.html

12. Zim American Israel Shipping, half owned by Israel, moved out of one of the Trade Towers two weeks before the attacks, forfeiting $50,000 on their lease.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/02/21/zim-shipping-evidence-they-knew-911-was-coming/

13. Odigo, an Israeli company with offices in one of the towers received warnings to stay away on 9/11.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/odigo-says-workers-were-warned-of-attack-1.70579

14. Jewish-controlled mainstream media covered up the fact that the towers were blown up. All MSM news censored all the news reports that were shown on TV that day reporting bombs going off in all three towers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UKfzGt6Fxk

15. General Wesley Clark says Zionist Neocons took control of America's foreign policy in a coup made possible by 9/11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oJUnG3Z6WI
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Nov 15, 2015 10:32:33   #
Pulfnick wrote:
Please get back on your meds!


Is that the best rebuttal you can muster?
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Nov 15, 2015 10:30:53   #
emarine wrote:
Talk about a week reply... you accused most of these sources to be Bias toward Zionism .... What's up... now that you choose to use them they became creditable ... cheep act Adolf... Have you not learned that selling through repetition equates to brainwashing ... you have become a Nazi tool... nothing more... and that is a shame


English is not a familiar language for you, is it.

I've noticed many times where in addition to wrong spelling you use the wrong word. Many times you use the word "except" instead of "accept". I suspect Hebrew is your first language. If that's the case, you're probably posting from Israel.
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Nov 15, 2015 10:24:19   #
emarine wrote:
Talk about a week reply... you accused most of these sources to be Bias toward Zionism .... What's up... now that you choose to use them they became creditable ... cheep act Adolf... Have you not learned that selling through repetition equates to brainwashing ... you have become a Nazi tool... nothing more... and that is a shame


I'm a Nazi tool?

The Nazis, for all practical purposes, disbanded after WWII.

Zionists, who were allied with the Nazis, have kept the Nazi dream of world domination alive.

Being a Zionist, you're the equivalent of a Nazi.


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Nov 15, 2015 10:00:52   #
saltwind 78 wrote:
Same old bs from payne! He doesn't want to discuss anything. All payne wants to do is tell us how wonderful the Palestinians are, and how terrible the Jews are. It's all a steaming hot plate of bs.
The Palestinian leadership fails into two categories, a murderous terror group in Gaza called Hamas which murders Jewish civilians in Israel and launches rockets at peaceful Israeli towns without provocation and a corrupt Palestinian Authority in the West Bank that refuses to attend peace talks and glorifies suicide bombers, while stealing everything they can from the Palestinian people. Abbas has just built a multi million dollar palace for himself with American and Western funds!
Same old bs from payne! He doesn't want to discuss... (show quote)


Just so readers won't get the idea that everything you post is lies, will you please give your source which shows that Abbas got money from American and Western funds and how much?
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Nov 15, 2015 09:56:27   #
hprinze wrote:
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The Paris terror acts were by muslims, It doesn't matter if you call them ISIS, ISIL as Obama does, Muslim Brotherhood, Al Queda, or simply Islam, they are all the same. The French have allowed them to swarm into their country. The same awaits the USA more and more of them are BROUGHT here by the Obama cartel


Mossad, the CIA and the FBI all use the same method to bring about these false flag terrorist operations. Here's how it works: Mossad hires Muslim mercenaries to contact Muslim activist groups, convincing them to join in a fight against those who are slaughtering Muslims in the Middle East. The Mossad Muslim operatives control all the details of the attacks.
The Muslim patsies never know that they are being set up and their deaths have been planned in advance. The Mossad Muslim agents may be allowed to escape if they could be useful in future operations or they may unknowingly be set up to be killed in the attacks to silence them for good.

The graphic below shows a Mossad operation from 1985 which is a similar scenario.


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Nov 15, 2015 09:32:02   #
saltwind 78 wrote:
More bs from payne.


BS?

More truth which you can't refute.
You're almost as impotent as JMHO.
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Nov 15, 2015 09:30:10   #
America Only wrote:
If you reside in the USA...making sure you are six foot under is one of the many good steps the American Citizens can do to proceed against Islam. You are a major part of the problem...the Muslims need to be dealt with. That means YOU! Getting the Muslim issue resolved helps fix a whole lot of problems and gives us some security as an added bonus. The USA does not need any more Camel Jockeys.


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Nov 15, 2015 08:24:02   #
rebob14 wrote:
They are in English and you do understand perfectly well exactly what they mean.


Your Hebrew translation now contains a redundancy.
Get a better translator.
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Nov 15, 2015 08:20:22   #
"Within one hour of the Paris attacks and without any evidence, the story was set in stone that the perpetrator was ISIL. This is the way propagada works.

When the West does it, it always succeeds, because the world is accustomed to following the lead of the West. I was amazed to see, for example, Russian news services helping to spread the official story of the Paris attacks despite Russia herself having suffered so often from planted false stories.

Has the Russian media forgotten MH-17? The minute the story was reported that the Malaysian airliner was hit by a Russian missile over eastern Ukraine in the hands of separatists, the blame was ascribed to Russia. And that is where the blame remains despite the absence of evidence.

Has the Russian media also forgotten the “Russian invasion of Ukraine”? This preposterous story is accepted everywhere in the West as gospel.

Has the Russian media forgot about the book by the German newspaper editor who wrote that every European journalist of consequence was an asset of the CIA?

One would have thought that experience would have taught Russian media sources to be
careful about explanations that originate in the West.

So now we have what is likely to be another false story set in stone. Just as a few Saudis with box cutters outwitted the entire US national security state, ISIL managed to acquire unacquirable weapons and outwit French intelligence while organizing a series of attacks in Paris.

Why did ISIL do this? Blowback for France’s small role in Washington’s Middle East violence?
Why not the US instead?

Or was ISIL’s purpose to have the flow of refugees into Europe blocked by closed borders? Does ISIL really want to keep all of its opponents in Syria and Iraq when instead it can drive them out to Europe? Why have to kill or control millions of people by preventing their flight?

Don’t expect any explanations or questions from the media about the story that is set in stone.

The threat to the European political establishment is not ISIL. The threats are the rising anti-EU, anti-immigrant political parties: Pegida in Germany, the UK Independence Party, and the National Front in France. The latest poll shows the National Front’s Marine Le Pen leading as the likely French president.

Something had to be done about the hords of refugees from Washington’s wars, or the establishment political parties faced defeat at the hands of political parties that are also unfriendly to Europe’s subservience to Washington.

EU rules about refugees and immigrants and Germany’s acceptance of one million of the refugees, together with heavy criticism of those governments in Eastern Europe that wanted to put up fences to keep out the refugees, made closing borders impossible.

With the Paris terror attacks, what was impossible became possible, and the President of France immediately announced the closing of France’s borders. The border closings will spread. The main issue of the rising dissident political parties will be defused. The EU will be safe, and so will Washington’s sovereignty over Europe.

Whether or not the Paris attacks were a false flag operation for the purpose of obtaining these results, these results are the consequences of the attacks. These results serve the interests of the European political establishment and Washington.

Is ISIL so unsophisticated not to have realized that? If ISIL is that unsophisticated, how did ISIL so easily deceive French intelligence? Indeed, can French intelligence be intelligent?

Can Western peoples be intelligent to fall for a story set in stone prior to any evidence? In the West, facts are created by self-serving statements from governments. Investigation is not part of the process. When 90 percent of the US media is owned by six mega-corporations, it cannot be any different.

As The Matrix grows in the absurdity of its claims, it nevertheless manages to become even more invulnerable.


http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-paris-terrorist-attacks-and-the-official-story-the-matrix-extends-its-reach/5489014
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Nov 15, 2015 08:11:05   #
okie don wrote:
There's a recent post out by Paul Craig Roberts about the high provability another 'false Flag' attack here.
Anything's possible with these Khazarian Zionists.
Remember the Murrah Fed Bldg in Okla in '95 and the WTC. Lives simply don't matter to them...


The Khazarian connection to the bombing of the Fed bldg in OK City was Andreas Strassmeir. Strassmeir had connections to Timothy McVeigh in Elohim City, OK.
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=andreas_strassmeier_1
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Nov 15, 2015 07:57:20   #
SamDawkins wrote:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/11/14/hashtag-muslims-are-not-terrorists-spreads-on-social-media-despite-paris-attacks/


Hashtag “Muslims Are Not Terrorists” Spreads on Social Media, Despite Paris Attacks
November 14, 2015 by Terry Firma 190 Comments
“Muslims are not terrorists,” claims a hashtag that’s just become the expression du jour of an online grassroots campaign.

But actually, the swine who killed scores of Parisians yesterday clearly were both.
The callous fucks who flew airliners full of passengers into the Twin Towers were too.
The proud homicidal maniacs who bombed nightclubs in Bali, hotels in Mumbai, trains in Madrid, subway cars and buses in London, schools in Beslan and Garissa and Peschawar, et cetera, were also.
A commenter on this blog argued today that the Muslims champing at the bit to commit this never-ending butchery constitute about “0.3 percent of the total.” If that’s true, that’s five million Muslims. (And according to Pew Research, some 350 million Muslims worldwide offer moral and/or material support for terrorist scum, always happy to cackle openly at the indiscriminate murder of infidels.)
Now find me equivalent numbers in any other religion — millions upon millions of people who want to blow up airplanes, skyscrapers, schools full of kids, theaters, concert venues, and so on. Can you? Who are they? Catholics? Amish? Buddhists? Mormons? Jains? Hindus?
Obviously, we shouldn’t tar all Muslims with the same brush; with that I agree whole-heartedly. I’m not at all suggesting that #MuslimsAreTerrorists would be an appropriate hashtag, either. Most Muslims want to live their lives in peace; we have nothing to fear from them. But “Muslims are not terrorists,” as if the definition of a Muslim is someone who is incapable of using extreme violence, is a self-defeating, deeply dishonest hashtag for the enormous fib it tells — a presumably well-intentioned lie that flies in the face of every reality that matters.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/... (show quote)


Too bad you're unable to think outside the box which the Zionist-controlled media constructs to contain you.

"Since we now know the Charlie Hebdo attack was a Gladio 2 false flag by the usual suspects (NATO hardliners and Zionists), can we safely make the same assumption about these new Friday the 13th Paris atrocities?

I think we can. Almost every really big, spectacular terror attack turns out, after extensive critical examination, to have been the usual state-sponsored false-flag stuff. There is no reason to think this one will be any different.

The first question, as always, is: Who gains? And the answer, as always, is: Authoritarian insiders. Zionists. Militarists. Islamophobes. New World Order-Out-Of-Chaos freaks.

Speaking of which, the order-out-of-chaos thing is going into overdrive. Between the destruction of several Middle Eastern countries, refugees flooding Europe, preparations for World War III vs. Russia and China, and ongoing false flag terror, it seems the “creative destruction” people are staying busy.

The authorities will surely use these new attacks in the same way they used Charlie Hebdo: As an excuse to shut down critical thinking and dissent. They may even try to prevent me from returning to Paris on December 11th to present a paper exposing the Charlie Hebdo false flag at a mainstream academic conference.

After all, I was already prevented once from entering Canada to give a talk on We Are NOT Charlie Hebdo: Free Thinkers Question the French 9/11. France’s president Hollande has attacked Charlie Hebdo “conspiracy theorists” in harsh terms, and his think tank, the Jean Jaurés Institute, named me as one of the world’s top five “conspiracy intellectuals” to watch out for.

If I were a truly paranoid conspiracy theorist, or conspiracy intellectual, or whatever, I would think somebody staged these new attacks just as I was leaving Paris and planning to return one month later because…well, because they’re afraid that my book We Are NOT Charlie Hebdo is picking up steam and threatening to expose the state-sponsored crimes of last January. According to this paranoid interpretation, the Charlie Hebdo high perps are “fleeing forward” into even bigger chaos and an even bigger crackdown on freedom…especially the freedom to seek the truth about false flag terror.

This new attack may throw a monkey wrench into my efforts to get We Are NOT Charlie Hebdo translated into French–which was one of my items of business in Paris.

It may also impede efforts to save Mohamed Boutiche, a witness to the fact that the Kouachi brothers, the designated Charlie Hebdo patsies, were intelligence assets. I just got word that Boutiche has been jailed and will be audited for trial on November 23rd. The authorities will undoubtedly use the new wave of terror hysteria to try to railroad Boutiche and keep a lid on his Charlie Hebdo revelations.

And let’s not forget that the EU just instituted mandatory labeling of products from the Occupied Territories; the Zionists are throwing a gargantuan hissy-fit…just like right before the Charlie Hebdo attacks. Beware of Zionists throwing hissy-fits.

So the least that can be said is that the timing seems extremely suspicious.

Then again, maybe it’s all just coincidence. Maybe this is an actual attack by angry Muslims. Maybe there is no state sponsorship. Maybe this time, for once, it actually ISN’T a false flag.

But what would “radical Muslims” gain? It’s already being blamed on ISIS; yet that makes no sense, since Russia, not France, is fighting ISIS in Syria. And ISIS, of course, is a fabricated synthetic-terror group, not a real Muslim group, anyway.

To believe the official “Muslims did it” stories of the big terror attacks starting with 9/11, you’d have to think of the ostensible Muslim perps as complete idiots, utterly incapable of strategic thinking, desperate to hand the Zionist neocons exactly the kind of PR they want.

Sure, there are undoubtedly some stupid angry Muslims out there. But they’re likely to be patsies, not orchestrators.

So although it’s too early to say for sure, I think we can tentatively assume that this Friday the 13th massacre in Paris is just the latest in a long series of false-flag spectacles. And if we let the perps get away with this one, as they’ve gotten away with all the others, we can expect more of the same."


http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/11/13/charlie2/
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