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Mar 17, 2016 01:43:50   #
Thank you Big Mike: I read your response as being one valid argument in agreement with the proposal!

Bob

BigMike wrote:
I don't care how civil someone is while they lie to my face. :lol:
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Mar 16, 2016 21:38:45   #
Subject: 2016 Presidential Contest.

Proposed: The Republican and Democratic parties, having each identified their most dis-liked* and most dis-honest** candidates, are presently posed to embark upon a national contest to determine the winner. First Prize, the PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES

* Political polls, Ad Nauseaum!
** Fact check dot, ibid!

Rules For Participation:
1. CIVILITY
2. A functioning mind must be in gear before keypad/board is engaged.
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Mar 16, 2016 15:55:01   #
Food for thought: What could be around the next curve in the road?

Trump repeatedly warns or riots (by his supporters?) if he is denied the nomination.

Such warnings could be construed as a thinly veiled call for such actions.

Assume that such events occur, assume that even one Trump supporter at such an event happens to be armed.

Could Trump face being charged, by our progressive DOJ, with "acting to incite armed insurrection"?

Intent you say: Progressive response, I would suggest could be "A result that could reasonably be expected"?

It is clearly time for Trump to defuse this situation now, while he still has a chance of success.

A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
By Al Weaver (@alweaver22) • 3/16/16 8:35 AM


Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump warned Wednesday that his supporters might riot if the GOP tried to steal the nomination away from him at the Republican National Convention in July.

Trump, who won at least three states on Tuesday, told CNN that if he falls just short of the delegates he needs to clinch the nomination, he should be seen as the winner anyway, and that any other decision could lead to violence.

"I think we'll win before getting to the convention, but I can tell you, if we didn't and if we're 20 votes short or if we're, you know, 100 short and we're at 1,100 and somebody else is at 500 or 400, because we're way ahead of everybody, I don't think you can say that we don't get it automatically. I think you would have riots," Trump said. "I think you would have riots."

Trump pointed out that he has brought out "millions" of voters to the polls, many of whom haven't voted in the past, including Democrats and independents. He added that most of his supporters have "never believed in the system," and warned again that "bad things would happen" if he lost the nod at the convention.

"The really big story is how many people are voting in these primaries. The numbers are astronomical," Trump said. "Now, if you disenfranchise those people and you say, 'well I'm sorry, but you're 100 votes short,' even though the next one is 500 votes short, I think you would see problems like you've never seen before. I think bad things would happen. I really do. I believe that. I wouldn't lead it, but I think bad things would happen."

Trump said he hopes there's a "healing process" between him and some of his vocal opponents within the party that will avoid the need for a contested convention.

"I think there's a natural healing process. Once the battle is over, once the war is over, I think there really is a natural healing process and I've gotten along with people all my life," Trump said. "This is actually a little bit unusual. I've gotten along very well with people, and I think it will happen again, and I believe it will. If it doesn't, it doesn't. I'll go along the same path, which has obviously been an effective path."
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Mar 16, 2016 15:07:18   #
Hillary Speak:

People, definition; Progressives only!

Truth, definition; A commodity so rare that it must be locked safely away, never to be displayed, or shared, in any way or circumstance.

Honesty, definition; see Truth.

Integrity, definition; Anti-Progressive hogwash.

Criminal, definition; Anyone who is not progressive.

Islamic terrorist, definition; A fantasy of non-progressives.

Threat to the security of the United States, definition; non-progressives.

Bob


reconreb wrote:
Hitlary is a queen , and all those beneath her are to serve and give their lives should she decide its in her intrust , and she has left a trail of bodys to prove it !!!!
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Mar 16, 2016 14:28:49   #
This is perfect example of Conflict of Interests, in which case, I believe, that congress has not only the authority but also a duty to act.


Bettijo wrote:
I could be wrong (I was once, lol), but I think the Attorney General is the one who has to appoint a special prosecutor. Don't hold your breath!
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Mar 16, 2016 14:11:53   #
WHY NO SPECIAL PROSECUTOR? (yes I meant to ask loudly)


thebigp wrote:
1 Hillary Email SHOWED Terrorists How to Kill Amb. Chris Stevens--47h., b43
An email released Monday pertaining to the Benghazi investigation from Hillary Clinton’s private email server revealed that a message detailing the location of murdered Ambassador Chris Stevens passed through the unsecured server, raising the possibility that terrorists could have intercepted the message.
According to Breitbart, the April 10, 2011, email from State Department employee Timmy Davis was forwarded to the server by Clinton’s aide, Huma Abedin.
“The situation in Ajdabiyah has worsened to the point where Stevens is considering departure from Benghazi,” Davis’ email read. “The envoy’s delegation is currently doing a phased checkout (paying the hotel bills, moving some comms to the boat, etc). He will monitor the situation to see if it deteriorates further, but no decision has been made on departure. He will wait 2-3 more hours, then revisit the decision on departure.” The email is the latest in a chain of emails that reveal Ambassador Stevens‘ location was readily available to anyone who could hack into Hillary Clinton’s unsecured private email server.
In March of 2011, an email stated that, “The current game plan is for Mr. Stevens to move no later than Wednesday from Malta to Benghazi. He will stage offshore initially for a one day visit during which he will have meetings with TNC (Transitional National Council) interlocutors and get a sense of the situation on the ground. The goal of this one day trip is for him to lay the groundwork for a stay of up to 30 days.” Then, on April 8, another email reported that the “security situation in Benghazi remains quiet. Chris Stevens & team are in the hotel, moving only for meetings as required.”
On April 22, another email detailing Stevens’ travel plans: “I want to let you know about a temporary rotation in Benghazi. TNC Envoy Chris Stevens has been on the road since March 13, when he began his outreach mission, and has been in Benghazi since April 5.” And then, on April 24, there was an email which told the exact time Ambassador Stevens would be having a meeting:
“Stevens will be meeting with MFA in one hour and will make a written request for better security at the hotel and for better security-related coordination. He still feels comfortable in the hotel. They are looking into the idea of moving into a villa, but that is some way off.” We may never know whether terrorists were able to break into Hillary Clinton’s non-secure personal server, especially given the amount of subterfuge that Clinton has engaged in to ensure her emails stay buried. To make things worse, Hillary Clinton doesn’t care. She’s willing to put her own electoral chances above the lives of four Americans, including a U.S. ambassador.
It’s debatable as to whether Huma Abedin is better known as the wife of former congressman and serial pervert Anthony Weiner or as an aide to Hillary Clinton with ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. Donald Trump trashed Abedin in both of her roles during a speech on Friday, joking about her marriage and wondering aloud if the former Clinton aide was getting secrets from Hillary’s personal email server. Trump noted that Abedin might have seen the classified email on Hillary’s private server.
“So Huma is getting classified secrets,” the 2016 Republican frontrunner said. “She’s married to Anthony Wiener, who is a perv. No, he is!” And yet, Abedin’s extensive ties to terrorist organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood have far more dire consequences for the people of the United States, opening the possibility that a terrorist operative may have had a direct line to classified information.
Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill released a strong statement on Twitter, saying, “Donald Trump has spent the summer saying offensive things about women, but there is no place for patently false, personal attacks towards a staff member … It’s embarrassing to watch, frankly.” The only embarrassing thing is that Huma Abedin — a woman who is a national security threat with a husband who has an unbelievably checkered history — was allowed to see classified email.
source- conservative tribune, breitbart, tnc,
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Mar 16, 2016 13:52:21   #
Low IQ is not the problem.

The non-existence of CS, (Common Sense) is the greatest problem we face today.


MarvinSussman wrote:
Stupid ignoramus! You are enjoying an 8-hour day, paid vacations, sick days, and pensions because socialists and, yes, communists got beaten up by company goons and cops and national guard weekend soldiers on picket lines during the 20's and 30's.

Those goons, cops, and soldiers were following the orders of politicians elected with Wall Street money charming idiots like you who can’t tell a friend from an enemy.

The problem is that stupid people are too stupid to know that they are stupid. Half of all adults have below-average IQs. We are screwed.
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Mar 16, 2016 13:16:48   #
Typical of progressive LIES mis-information, dis-information and invalid conclusions, to inflame and incite fear.

The source you cite openly admits that in gathering this data there was NO DEFINITION of the terms TODDLER or TERRORIST
cited.

CREDIBILITY RATING -0-
CRUDABILITY RATING 1000


Kevyn wrote:
A sinister group in the US is shooting and killing more americans than all of the terrorists combined, and republicans ignore and lie about the threat. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/13/the-macabre-truth-of-gun-control-in-the-us-is-that-toddlers-kill-more-people-than-terrorists-do
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Mar 16, 2016 11:41:55   #
To anyone with a functioning mind!
WARNING: MAY CAUSE SEVERE PAIN TO DEMOCRATS!
HRC Resume:
1. Marriage; (in and for name only)
a. The picture of domestic tranquility, faithfulness, loyalty and mutual respect.
b. A shining example of honesty, personal responsibility, and ethics for your daughter to follow.
Now think Ron/Nancy.

2. An individual who has clearly demonstrated that she has what it takes to succeed in the real world on her own skill and ability.
a. Winning a seat in congress on her own extensive history of dedicated public service and personal accomplishments.
b. A series of highly profitable, financial dealings that any Democrat would be proud of.
c. A winning record at choosing defense lawyers.
d. Ability to handle unparalleled numbers of scandals, inquires, investigations, and law suits(multi-tasking).

3. Exceptional skills in international Diplomacy.
a. Can stand up to Russia, got tough with them and personally reset U.S. - Soviet relations (damn near to cold war status).
b. A major player in helping to usher in the Arab Spring in countries like Egypt, Libya and Syria; leading to a new dawn of democracy, human rights, peace, prosperity and acceptance in the region.
c. Believes that national borders, and national Sovereignty are archaic concepts that she simply must eliminate (for the good of the new world order).

4. Winning economic policies:
a. Left the white house flat broke due to paying lawyers.
b. Wants American tax dollars to pay for lawyers for every
illegal alien that can get across our undefended borders.
c. Wants American tax dollars to pay for lawyers for every baby that is lucky enough to draw its first breath before witnesses, all others may be killed, scraped for parts, at will.
d. A true master at selling U.S. foreign policy for personal gain.
Hillary, The largest producer of FERTILIZER in the world today.
Hillary: A true champion of TRUTH, JUSTICE AND THE AMERICAN WAY?

By the way, where the hell is superman when we really need him?
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Mar 15, 2016 17:50:18   #
so much for open civil debate
buffalo wrote:
Everyone here knows you are a mooslime terrorist loving, asskissing moonbat. Anything to make them seem harmless. Pitiful....
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Mar 15, 2016 17:31:55   #
Many scholars have conducted many studies on the relationship between race and violent crime, with little consensus.

The waters are somewhat cloudy on the issue because of the differing methods of determining and reporting race across the range of reporting agencies.

It seems that environment and culture have far more influence.
For instance the expected crime rate amongst blacks in D.C. and say Boise Idaho.


PaulPisces wrote:
Willy - One can slice and dice the statistics a million different ways. Interesting to note, though, that according to these 2013 statistics published by the FBI, the raw numbers of white-on-white murders exceeds those of black-on-black. Further, murders by blacks represent less than 14% of murders against white people.

Violence is of course a complex issue in our culture, and my preference is to look at the problem through cultural and economic lenses rather than purely race. Regardless of the race of the victim or the perpetrator, we have a real problem with violence as an acceptable resolution to even the smallest of conflicts.
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Mar 15, 2016 16:53:37   #
Perfectly, the open and civil debate of issues.

It will be very interesting to see where to see where things stand come sunrise, don't you agree?


pappadeux wrote:
You may (unfortunately) be right. Today's voters are basically 'sound bite'voters, being either uninformed and or misinformed. They also tend to vote for whats good for themselves rather than whats good for good the country, which is the primary reason of the poor class of leadership in recent times, the last seven the worst of all. As it stands now we have four branch's of government As my cartoon indicates. We need to get back to the original three. Have I passed your discussion standards ??
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Mar 15, 2016 16:36:13   #
In my opinion, Hillary loses, even if she wins nomination; and here is why:
If voter turnout in the primaries shows any thing, it shows that many moderate Democrats and Independent voters will either cross over to the Republican candidate, or just stay home because, for one reason or an other, they will not vote for Hillary or Bernie. Democratic turnout will be so small that even if Trump runs as an independent, Republican turnout will doom either Hillary or Bernie.




Anigav6969 wrote:
The Republicans have really screwed themselves...they know Trump will get demolished in the general....not even half of the Republicans are voting for him now in the primary....if he gets put aside by someone like Cruz, many Trump chumps will stay home....and what does that get us ???.....Madam President...

I think this is a likely scenario.....I'm sure there will be nothing but attacks here....that will just prove that I'm most likely correct.....it will be interesting to see if anyone can actually discuss this..
The Republicans have really screwed themselves...t... (show quote)
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Mar 15, 2016 14:47:52   #
Neither guns nor laws are the issue here, this issue is stupid behavior and nothing else. If more laws are always the solution, then it's high time we outlaw stupid behavior.

Bob


Kevyn wrote:
A sinister group in the US is shooting and killing more americans than all of the terrorists combined, and republicans ignore and lie about the threat. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/13/the-macabre-truth-of-gun-control-in-the-us-is-that-toddlers-kill-more-people-than-terrorists-do
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Mar 15, 2016 14:04:42   #
The second Article of the Bill of Rights does not stand alone.

Article II. A well-regulated milita being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Article X. The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Taken together it appears evident to me that the federal government is barred from enacting ANY restrictions on the keeping, and bearing of arms, in this nation. Article X makes it clear that if there is to be any such regulative authority, it is reserved to the states exclusively.

What do you think about that barrel of apples?


Harpooner1 wrote:
The Constitution of the United States of America may have been written long ago, but, it is pertinent to read it every now and then and get a perspective vis a vis what happens now and the foreseeable future.
The FIRST amendment is very clear. Yet, what does it seem the liberal left attacks? Religion? Speech? Assembly? Oh, we are seeing all the "tolerance" displayed, aren't we?
The second amendment? The right to keep and bear arms? Is that under attack? Yes....By...Who else....The liberals.
Why do you think these are the first two amendments? Could it be that those people had a clue as to a free society? Like it or not, freedom of speech and the ability to defend yourself and your family are part and parcel of a free society.
Nobody wants gun violence. But, if I can't rely on the police to always be there, because they won't be there when shit happens, I want the ability to protect myself, my family and my property. The obtuse notion that if you make it harder for law abiding citizens to legally buy and sell firearms thinking it will make it harder for criminals to get guns is ridiculous. But, that is what the liberals think. Or, at least legislate on us.
Of course the government fears a well armed populace, even more so a well organized and armed populace. The second amendment doesn't say "the citizens can have guns for hunting only...", no, it says " against enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC. "
And, the first amendment says "freedom of religion" not "freedom from religion" and nowhere in the Constitution does it specify that there is a separation of church and state. It simply means the government cannot lawfully oppress it's citizens by demanding adherence to one religion or another.
The more you examine the liberal ways, or "progressives", the more it becomes apparent that the ultimate goal is communistic by nature.
And that's fine.....As long as you are in the ruling class.

The Democrats have changed, morphed into a corrupt, lying bunch of socialists....It just a matter of degree of difference between them.
The Constitution of the United States of America m... (show quote)
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