Posts for: Worried for our children
Nov 1, 2017 21:47:51 #
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Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Asked and answered! Using Russia to influence the election in your favor is a huge crime! Using a foreign entity to influence an election is called collusion, also a crime! Damn you people are stupid!
http://www.cresse.info/uploadfiles/Deterrence_11.14.13.pdf
http://www.cresse.info/uploadfiles/Deterrence_11.14.13.pdf
You can post that link as often as you like, it has nothing to do with anything concerning the title of this thread. All you’re doing is confirming what everybody already thinks about you.
Nov 1, 2017 21:39:18 #
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Tgards79 wrote:
Your piece is correct about Manafort and Gates, al... (show quote)
Fair enough. The only thing I disagree with is, that Don Jr. violated campaign law. Had he paid for the dirt on Hillary then yes, but he didn’t. So it’s referred to as opposition research. Also, had he violated campaign law, wouldn’t Mueller have filed an indictment in that regard? Unless you suspect that that is something which will happen in the near future... btw, I think this is as serious as a heart attack.
Nov 1, 2017 21:12:54 #
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Tgards79 wrote:
It's really important that all Americans take these charges seriously, so I urge you to read this carefully and see what you think. Thank you.
https://lawfareblog.com/robert-muellers-show-strength-quick-and-dirty-analysis
https://lawfareblog.com/robert-muellers-show-strength-quick-and-dirty-analysis
I read it, but didn’t find it to be objective at all. What do you think of this piece...
”Over the weekend, the mainstream media was absolutely giddy with delight upon learning there would be an indictment by special counsel, Robert Mueller.
This was proof positive, they insisted, that Trump “colluded” with Russia to influence the 2016 presidential election. Their exuberance was the equivalent of a two day-long tailgate party. Too bad it was premature.
Manafort & Gates
The celebration came to a crashing end when the indictments of Paul Manafort and his business associate, Rick Gates, were unsealed Monday morning. It turns out the charges are, basically, a tax fraud case. The two men stand accused of hiding their income from their lobbying work for Ukraine in order to avoid paying taxes, then lying about it. That’s it.
The 31-page indictment makes no mention of Trump or Russia or “collusion.” The media seemed as dejected as a kid who wakes up on Christmas morning, only to find there are no presents under the tree. Gee whiz.
The truth is, it should have come as no surprise to anyone, much less the media, that Manafort was in legal jeopardy for his business dealings. The FBI raided his home over the summer. It was later learned that the FBI wiretapped his conversations as far back as 2014. And it was widely reported that Manafort had been told by Mueller’s team that he would be criminally charged.
The media became even more dispirited when they read through the indictment, discovering that nearly all of Manafort’s alleged wrongdoing substantially pre-dates his brief stint as chairman of the Trump campaign. In other words, there is no connection to either Trump or his campaign.
Somewhere, I’m sure, ABC’s Martha Raddatz and CNN’s Van Jones were crying. Again. Just like the tears they shed on camera election night when Hillary lost.
Papadopoulos
But wait. Shortly after the indictments were unsealed, the media’s spirits were suddenly boosted when the special counsel revealed that a former adviser to Trump pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with a Russian national during his time on the Trump campaign. Surely this was evidence of illegal “collusion,” right?
Wrong. George Papadopoulos pled guilty to a single charge of making a false statement to the FBI. He was not charged with so-called “collusion” because no such crime exists in American statutory law, except in anti-trust matters. It has no application to elections and political campaigns.
It is not a crime to talk to a Russian. Not that the media would ever understand that. They have never managed to point to a single statute that makes “colluding” with a foreign government in a political campaign a crime, likely because it does not exist in the criminal codes.
But that did not stop them from accusing Donald Trump, Jr., of illegally conspiring with the Russians when he met with a Russian lawyer to obtain information on Hillary Clinton. What law did he break? None. The Federal Election Commission has made it clear that it is perfectly lawful for foreign nationals to be involved in campaigns, as long as they are not paid and do not donate money. Which brings us to Hillary Clinton.
Hillary Clinton
It is against the law for the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee to funnel millions of dollars to a British spy and to Russian sources in order to obtain the infamous and discredited Trump “dossier.” The Federal Election Campaign Act (52 USC 30101) prohibits foreign nationals and governments from giving or receiving money in U.S. campaigns. It also prohibits the filing of false or misleading campaign reports to hide the true purpose of the money (52 USC 30121). This is what Clinton and the DNC appear to have done.
Most often the penalty for violating this law is a fine, but in egregious cases, like this one, criminal prosecutions have been sought and convictions obtained. In this sense, it could be said that Hillary Clinton is the one who was conspiring with the Russians by breaking campaign finance laws with impunity.
But that’s not all. Damning new evidence appears to show that Clinton used her office as Secretary of State to confer benefits to Russia in exchange for millions of dollars in donations to her foundation and cash to her husband. Secret recordings, intercepted emails, financial records, and eyewitness accounts allegedly show that Russian nuclear officials enriched the Clintons at the very time Hillary presided over a governing body which unanimously approved the sale of one-fifth of America’s uranium supply to Russia.
If this proves to be a corrupt “pay-to-play” scheme, it would constitute a myriad of crimes, including bribery (18 USC 201-b), mail fraud (18 USC 1341), and wire fraud (18 USC 1343). It might also qualify for racketeering charges (18 USC 1961-1968), if her foundation is determined to have been used as a criminal enterprise.
Despite all the incriminating evidence, Clinton has managed to avoid being pursued by a special counsel. Trump, on the other hand, is being chased by Robert Mueller and his team, notwithstanding a dearth of evidence.
Robert Mueller
The indictments of Manafort and Gates now present a unique opportunity to challenge the authority of the special counsel.
Until now, no one had legal “standing” to argue in court that the appointment of Mueller was illegal. The criminal charges change all that. The two defendants will be able to argue before a judge that Mueller’s appointment by Acting Attorney General Rod Rosenstein violated the special counsel law.
As I pointed out in a column last May, the law (28 CFR 600) grants legal authority to appoint a special counsel to investigate crimes. Only crimes. He has limited jurisdiction. Yet, in his order appointing Mueller as special counsel (Order No. 3915-2017), Rosenstein directed him to investigate “any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump.” It fails to identify any specific crimes, likely because none are applicable.
To put it plainly, Mueller is tasked with finding a crime that does not exist in the law. It is a legal impossibility. He is being asked to do something that is manifestly unattainable.
If the federal judge agrees, Mueller and his team would be disbanded by judicial order. The Department of Justice would have to seek a new indictment of Manafort and Gates without the special counsel or drop the case entirely.
The naming of Robert Mueller was tainted with disqualifying conflicts of interest from the beginning. Fired FBI Director James Comey admitted he leaked presidential memos to the media for the sole purpose of triggering the appointment of a special counsel who just happens to be Comey’s longtime friend, ally and partner.
It is no coincidence that Rosenstein appointed Mueller. We now know both men were overseeing the corrupt Uranium One sale which involved Russian bribes, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering. They appear to have kept it secret, even hiding it from Congress which would surely have cancelled the transaction involving a vital national security asset. A cover-up? It has the stench of one.
How can Americans have confidence in the outcome of the Trump-Russia matter if the integrity and impartiality of Mueller and Rosenstein has been compromised by their suspected cover-up of the Clinton-Russia case? Both men should resign.”
Nov 1, 2017 21:05:25 #
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Kevyn wrote:
Uzbekistan was part of the USSR. The terrorists attack in NYC is nothing but a Putin organized false flag attack to devert attention from the impending downfall of Putin’s puppet Trump. Keep your eyes on the ball, not the sideshow.
How can we keep our eyes on the ball, and not the sideshow, if you won’t delete your OPP account?
Nov 1, 2017 20:51:28 #
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Carol Kelly wrote:
You are always right,
I dunno about that Carol, but thank you, I try. Maybe you could tell that to Mrs. WFOC, and settle a disagreement for us. Lol
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but I might add the government should deport Saipev's wife and children.
To be perfectly honest with you Carol, I haven’t found the stomach to look into this sicko. I’m almost ready though. Do you have any links that focus on his personal life, I wasn’t even aware that he had a child.
Nov 1, 2017 20:43:22 #
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Are you ignoring my questions, Ray?
Nov 1, 2017 20:41:11 #
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moldyoldy wrote:
Why did they all claim that they never met with any Russians?
I’m not sure. It’s not like it’s a crime to talk to Russians. Who exactly do you mean when you say “they”? Any names, specifically?
Nov 1, 2017 20:21:56 #
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moldyoldy wrote:
Should be easy to prove conspiracy, since all trumps people were vetted by Russia.
You keep that sense of humor, Moldy. At least you’re willing to accept the fact that collusion is not a crime. It’s been what, more than a year now? And we still haven’t seen any evidence presented.... sigh.
Nov 1, 2017 19:29:53 #
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son of witless wrote:
Oh no. What ever will I do? Trump's approval ratin... (show quote)
Mueller has been tasked with the impossible. Find someone guilty of a crime that doesn’t exist. I almost feel bad for the feller...
Nov 1, 2017 19:08:55 #
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proud republican wrote:
Worried, i said thank you Saipev for helping our Republican Gillespie destroy Virginia's Dem racist ad..Read Oldroy original post before accusing me for this...
I did. I just don’t think the method by which this could’ve been achieved is the right thing to applaud. I didn’t mean any offense...
Nov 1, 2017 18:20:40 #
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Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Stupid is as stupid does!
Campaign Finance Law; "When "Collusion" with a foreign government becomes a crime!
https://www.justsecurity.org/41593/hiding-plain-sight-federal-campaign-finance-law-trump-campaign-collusion-russia-trump/
Campaign Finance Law; "When "Collusion" with a foreign government becomes a crime!
https://www.justsecurity.org/41593/hiding-plain-sight-federal-campaign-finance-law-trump-campaign-collusion-russia-trump/
Lol... that’s a nice opinion piece by Mr. Bauer, but that’s all it is. You are dodging my question, Ray. Show me the law that makes “collusion” a crime. And why hasn’t Mueller charged anyone with “collusion”?
Why is this so difficult for you?
Nov 1, 2017 18:01:01 #
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proud republican wrote:
Thank you ,Saipev,,, 
I like you, ma’am, but that’s a bit in poor taste. We should never thank a murdering asshole for anything. You still have time to edit it, if you so choose.
Nov 1, 2017 17:58:49 #
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oldroy wrote:
I think there is a strong chance that he did just that since the ad that the Democrats put out in Virginia against Gillespie for Governor showed Christians killing Muslims. All of a sudden that ad went to hell when Saipev killed all those people in New York City with his rented pickup. He may well have caused many Christians to change from Democrats to Republicans and maybe even some Muslims.
http://www.conservativehq.com/node/26757
http://www.conservativehq.com/node/26757
This race is being directly tied to illegal immigration. Saipev, though not here illegally, but via a lottery system, may have just sank any chance of a democrat victory, no matter where the election.
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