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Jul 20, 2018 07:29:59   #
debeda wrote:
Oh no no no. California will tell you they only have the right to vote in school board elections, which of course is a crock. So the short answer is YES California is colluding with foreign nationals to influence our elections. This whole thing is becoming annoying and mind boggling how liberals just blithely go on disregarding laws that don't suit them


So illegals can vote in school board elections? I think Californians have shown that their school system can't get much worse. Let's face it, being smarter than the average Democrat, ESPECIALLY the average California Democrat, is not exactly an accomplishment.
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Jul 20, 2018 07:26:05   #
Today in history, at 10:56 Eastern Daylight Time, Neil Armstrong set foot on a piece of real estate most of us call the moon.
You know, a small step for a man, a giant leap for mankind? THAT Neil Armstrong?
Do you remember what you were doing at the time?
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Jul 20, 2018 07:22:12   #
slatten49 wrote:
Rick Newman

Donald Trump won the presidency in 2016 in part because voters perceived his opponent, Hillary Clinton, to be a dishonest, self-dealing phony.

Trump has now pulled off the improbable: He makes Hillary Clinton and her husband Bill look like ethical exemplars, compared with the corruption endemic in Trump’s administration.

Whatever you think of Trump, there was legitimacy to his call, back in 2016, to “drain the swamp” and bring fresh blood to Washington. Team Clinton, it turned out, was the perfect foil for Trump, thanks to Hillary Clinton’s six-figure Wall Street speech-making, her shifty explanations for violating government policy by using a private email server, and the money flowing into the Clinton Foundation from shady deal-makers undoubtedly hoping for favors once Hillary ascended to the White House.

How quaint those Clinton controversies seem, compared with the Trump presidency.

Trump’s knifing of American law-enforcement agencies, while on a podium at the Helsinki “summit” with American enemy Vladimir Putin, visibly raised the possibility that Trump might sell out his own country to appease a ruthless dictator who at this moment is working to manipulate the upcoming U.S. elections. Trump is now going even further to aid Russian attacks against the United States, by saying Russia is no longer targeting U.S. elections. Intelligence officials contradict Trump and say Russia is still at it. The president of the United States is defending a foreign government that’s attacking the United States. Right now.

Before Trump’s capitulation to Putin, the president deserved the benefit of the doubt from rational observers on the question of Russian aid for his 2016 campaign, because there was no public evidence that Trump knowingly solicited or accepted any Russian help. But Trump’s defense of Putin is now evidence in itself. What does Putin have on Trump that would compel the American president to turn on his own country? Everybody wants to know, as Trump might say.

It’s now undeniably clear that Trump puts self above country, self above party and self above voter. Is Trump’s alliance with Putin an act of self-preservation? Is it personal opportunism? Is Trump doing Putin a favor in exchange for return favors? We don’t know, yet, but if there’s a trail of illegal Russian money in the Trump presidential campaign, or in Trump’s far-flung business empire, it’s likely that special prosecutor Robert Mueller knows about it, which means the public will, eventually. It’s now obvious why Trump has been trying for months to torpedo Mueller’s investigation, even though Trump claims to have done nothing wrong: If anybody knows the real reason Trump fawns over Putin, it’s Mueller.

Americans expect politicians to be self-serving. Trump doesn’t disappoint. But if you voted for Trump as a repudiation of Billary-style greasiness, you got duped. Team Trump is abusing its power in ways Hillary Clinton couldn’t even dream of – perhaps even to cover up crimes by the man elected to run it.

Then there are the more routine forms of corruption. Three Trump Cabinet members have resigned, so far, for abusing the perks of office. Former EPA commissioner Scott Pruitt stayed on the job for months after a vast pattern of grifting emerged, as if Trump saw no problem and was simply waiting for the flap to die down. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, meanwhile, has violated government stock-ownership rules meant to prevent top officials from benefiting from their own policy decisions. It might be an honest mistake, but there’s so much mendacity in the Trump administration that it is time to presume guilt rather than innocence.

Boy Wonder Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and White House factotum, has violated government ethics guidelines by retaining ownership in his family’s real-estate company while working for the government. There’s some evidence Kushner’s privately owned company has already enjoyed favored treatment from lenders and other business partners because of Kushner’s newfound access to power. Kushner had no experience in government before Trump became president, and he’s only at the White House because he fulfills Trump’s loyalty requirement. Competence and capabilities are irrelevant.

The Treasury Department just changed disclosure rules for some political groups in a way that will allow more rich donors to contribute anonymously to organizations that lobby for favored candidates and causes. Just what America needs: more opportunities for powerful people, including foreigners, to secretly manipulate U.S. elections. There’s much more, including unqualified companies getting government business because of personal friendships with Trump officials.

Trump has Clintonized the White House, and gone much further. He certainly matches Bill Clinton’s sneaky infidelity, with his porn-star affairs and secret hush payments. Hillary Clinton alienated voters by, among other things, shirking responsibility for her mistakes and rarely taking the blame for anything gone wrong. But she was an amateur compared with Trump, who lies every day, calls his own statements “fake news” and now courts a dictator associated with numerous assassinations. Even the Clinton Foundation, which took money from every opportunist hoping to get an audience with a Clinton, didn’t stoop that low.

This isn’t a defense of Hillary Clinton. She lost the 2016 election because of her own arrogance and mistakes. But it’s time for those who thought they were getting something better, in Trump, to realize they were wrong.
Rick Newman br br Donald Trump won the presidency... (show quote)


Mr. Newman is wrong on several counts. Firstly, Hillary did not "violate government guidelines vis-a-vis her emails; what she violated was Federal law, several felonies worth. That's why it pays to have someone who has made several million dollars off of his association with you as a lead prosecutor.

Then there was the little matter of Whitewater, in which Billy Boy invoked Executive Privilege to protect himself and his partner in crime.
Concerning Jared Kushner's "violations, whether real or imagined, let us not forget Billy Boy's $500,000 fee for a 15 minute speech in the Rodina, concurrent with the Uranium deal that Hillary had so much to do with.
Concerning Trump's so called "affair" with Stormy Daniels, this happened when he was a private citizen, while Billy Boy indulged his own propensity for getting his schlong wet while occupying public office, both in Arkansas and DC. Not one affair, but a steady stream of them.
Trump is "courting a dictator responsible for assassinations?" Well the Clintons didn't have to do that. Judging by the number of people associated with them who have wound up dead, they don't court assassins, they train them.
Trump is blunt, outspoken, and a lousy liar. The Clintons. Slick Willie especially, are suave, and in contrast to Trump, are consummate liars, polished and professional.
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Jul 20, 2018 07:05:08   #
Nickolai wrote:
No I don't the dirty tricks are good and the Super delegates designed to make it difficult for a challenger does not strengthen The Republic and is not democratic and there is talk of junking that system and that is a good thing


Dirty tricks are good as long as only Democrats are allowed to do them with impunity. Got it.
At least you're honest about your dishonesty.
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Jul 19, 2018 23:39:50   #
Nickolai wrote:
There is a big difference in influencing and rigging . I don't think anyone is suggesting the 2016 election was rigged But there is no question Russia attempted to influence that election. Whether or not any voters were influenced we can never know but that is not what's in question. It is the fact that a foreign adversary with an agenda of undermining western democracy made a herculean effort to influence our election and why ?


I suppose you think the dirty tricks that Hillary the Harpy and her posse pulled off were designed to enhance and strengthen our Republic? You have invented a Russian woolly booger to divert attention from the real problem. The Russians are the bad guys for exposing Democrat dirty tricks, but the Democrats who were guilty are little angels.
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Jul 19, 2018 23:36:08   #
Chocura750 wrote:
Traitor doesn't mean anything any more. People are called traitors on this website every five minutes. I don't think Trump is a traitor and I hope I'm right. I do think however that he has a large personality defect which I'm not qualified to name. His technique is also unique I think. If he wanted to blow up NATO I think most Presidents would have discussed it with advisors and talked about the subject with the public. He might have learned that if Montenegro attaches Russia NATO is not required to defend it.
Also I've heard it's a long road without a corner. He may need to ask for help someday and Angela and Teresa just might not answer the phone.
Traitor doesn't mean anything any more. People ar... (show quote)

If Angela or Teresa doesn't answer the phone it's probably because one of their precious Muslim refugees has blown up the exchange.
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Jul 19, 2018 05:38:18   #
Richard94611 wrote:
Watch as Mueller indicts and the courts convict several dozen of Trump's so-called "witches."

As of tonight, there is evidence of collusion between Trump and the Russians. Trump knew from all our intel agencies that Putin was ordering a number of measures to influence our elections, yet long after he knew this and was briefed on it, Trump denied any knowledge of these Russian actions.

The noose around his neck is getting tighter and tighter.

Won't it be interesting to see what his eventual fate will be, just as it was interesting to watch Nixon's last days.
Watch as Mueller indicts and the courts convict se... (show quote)

Don't hand me that crap. These things happened while Obama was president. Obama denied that any thing of the sort was possible.
In your God King's own words...

"There is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America's elections. There's no evidence that that has happened in the past or that there are instances in which that will happen this time."
One more time, Richard. One. More. Time. When are you going to blame the Liberal Democrats for their actions? Had they not done things that many people find offensive, there would have been nothing to hack. Who is worse? People who do reprehensible things or people who use less than legal means to catch them at it?
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Jul 19, 2018 05:24:54   #
Richard94611 wrote:
For a bona fide witch hunt, Mueller sure has indicated a lot of witches. Now watch as they become convicted.


You mean IF they are convicted.
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Jul 19, 2018 05:22:27   #
Wolf counselor wrote:
" Everybody " was hacking and interfering with the elections.

Not just the Russians.

Donna Brazil gave the Clinton Pig the debate questions.

That's blatant ' interfering '.

Hackers work for both democrats and republicans, Jews and gentiles or anybody who can make it worth their while.

Russia is simply the democrats scapegoat for their utter failure in the election.


Have you heard a single Democrat express any anger at their own party for being responsible for the actions that were hacked and publicized? I haven't. Just anger because they got caught.
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Jul 18, 2018 22:35:16   #
[quote=Iamdjchrys][quote=Liberty Tree]The wall would certainly help, however, no one should be fooled into believing it will stop all illegal immigration. Better than the wall would be to stop the reasons for coming here illegally. These include:

1, Stiff penalties for hiring illegals, including taking away business license.
2. Similar penalties for renting housing to illegals.
3. No government benefits or licenses to illegals
4. No education for illegals.
5. No citizenship for those born here unless one parent is a citizen.

I am sure others can add to the list, but you get he idea. To stop illegal immigration we have to stop any and all benefits that they obtain from coming here illegally. This would apply to those already here and they would deport themselves.[/quote

Like the $1 an hour they get from working in our fields? It's not just harvests, yanno[/quote]

You forgot E Verify. Stolen and fraudulent ID's are very common. It is not always the employer's fault. You should say stiff penalties for knowingly hiring illegals. Once E Verify is in place it will be harder for them to get jobs with fake ID.
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Jul 18, 2018 22:33:24   #
moldyoldy wrote:
I don't disagree with you, but maybe 1 in 10 parents expect anything more than taking out the trash today. A few years back college grads were working those burger joints because there was no work. Today I see young adults working burgers, not teens. Teens have all kinds of school activities that the parents think will make them rich.


You mean things other than gainful employment and balancing the budget of whatever money they earn from said employment?
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Jul 18, 2018 22:30:21   #
Richard94611 wrote:
Loki, there is a characteristic of your posts that damages your credibility. It also damages the credibility of many, many people with conservative Republican views. Over and over I see in conservative posts vast generalizations about how all liberals do this or that and how all liberals think this or that. You avoided that kind of generillization in the post below, but this is rare for you. We can agree or disagree about matters, but please stop the false and mindless generalizations about people. I suggest this with all due respect to you and hope you will receive it the same way.
Loki, there is a characteristic of your posts that... (show quote)


With all due respect I was not generalizing, as you said. I am tired of Liberals who repeat the same baseless and either unproven or debunked claims. Repeated claims of collusion after the investigators repeatedly said there was none. Completely ignoring misdeeds by Democrats in favor of attempting to castigate the people who publicized it. You are furious at Russian hacking of the DNC, but completely silent on the reasons why there was any damaging information to hack. The facts are that Liberal Democrats have lost seats at the state and national elections for the past four elections in a row, and rather than blame your own shortcomings, it is always the fault of Republicans, or the Russians, or the Electoral College, or anything other than your failure to produce a platform and candidates that resonate with all of us knuckle walking troglodytes in flyover country.
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Jul 18, 2018 17:12:05   #
moldyoldy wrote:
I started working steady at 12, picked everything they had in South Carolina, and worked in the Funeral Home on weekends.
But, I think that might have been before your time. We chose to make life better for the kids, for better or worse.


You don't make it better by letting them be useless couch potatoes. When I was a kid, we had summer jobs, mowing lawns, working at local farms and ranches, doing something. There weren't any burger flipping places.
Landscaping crews were filled out with high school kids who needed to make car payments. If you weren't in school you were expected to at least have some kind of part time job.
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Jul 18, 2018 17:06:18   #
bylm1 wrote:
Anyone who thinks there is no vote fraud in the US is simply trying to fool themselves. The Dems don't want to admit it for obvious reasons - that is where they expect to get a major part of their future voting bloc. One must keep in mind that one of the left's famous tactics is to blame their opponents for doing what they are doing themselves. Logic is also not a large component of the left's arsenal.


Once more, the Dems claim there is no fraud because it occurs at registration rather than on election day. Congress can fix a lot of the problem by passing legislation requiring E Verify, and requiring states to keep their voter registration rolls current.
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Jul 18, 2018 17:02:48   #
moldyoldy wrote:
US kids are spoiled now, you know they don't work for the most part.


Whose fault is that? My folks gave me a little money during the school year, but once school ended for the year, so did the handouts. I was expected to get my ass out and find a job like all the other kids. I didn't even get a drivers' license until I had earned and saved enough money to pay for the extra insurance.
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