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Jan 19, 2019 10:57:35   #
agreed, but we must search for a way to our Constitutional Republic form of government.

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Yes the Devil is working his wonders and magic on the left. His magic is Un-Truth!

There doesn't seem to be any peaceful means to right our nation.
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Jan 19, 2019 10:55:47   #
Nutter wrote:
Members of congress are not leaders they are representatives of the PEOPLE. But they act for their own benefit and power.


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Jan 18, 2019 11:33:15   #
Worth the effort for Americans, not so much for US citizens of the corporate societies.

For All The Jural Assemblies

There seems to be a lot of confusion about the Jural Assemblies so I am writing this down for all the State Jural Assemblies at once. Although State Jural Assemblies are unique and dedicated to their individual State it is necessary for everyone to know basic definitions and oppositions and roles, so that everyone understands what they are doing and why.

Jural Assemblies are the organizational units of land and soil jurisdiction courts.

Jural Societies are the organizational units of sea and maritime jurisdiction courts.

Jural Assemblies "assemble". Jural Societies "associate".

Jural Assemblies create States and Counties.

Jural Societies create States of States and Counties Of _________.

As you can now fully appreciate from this brief description, both are necessary in order to properly conduct business on both land and sea.

States are geographically defined areas that are under the control of Public Laws established by the people who live within their borders. States are unincorporated land and soil jurisdiction entities run as unincorporated businesses. States have very simple names: Ohio, Rhode Island, Maine, Florida, Wisconsin, and so on.

In America, these States are joined together in a Union called a "Federation". The Federation is also unincorporated and is called "The United States of America". It was founded September 9, 1776.

All these organizational forms are created by living people, howbeit, people acting in two profoundly different capacities --- as people, and as persons, which are incorporated entities.

People acting as people make up Jural Assemblies.

People acting as "persons" make up Jural Societies.

People acting in their unincorporated capacity as people who are members of a Jural Assembly decide the physical boundaries of their States, adopt the Public Laws within their States, and enforce the Public Law via their Jural Assemblies, their land and soil jurisdiction courts, and the officers of those courts.

Jural Assemblies organize the land and soil jurisdiction courts owed to the people of each State.

Jural Assembly organizers are responsible for the making sure that candidate members are eligible to serve.

In most States, candidates must be at least 21, must have permanent homes declared within the geographic boundaries of their State, must be landowners (even if the land owned is only their reclaimed Good Name and bodily Estate), and at least until new elections are held within the Assembly to change the 1860 Conventions, the initial State Jural Assembly must be convened by white males meeting all other qualifications. This is because we are reopening courts that have been substantially (though not entirely) vacated since the Civil War.

People of Color and Women may be welcomed by all Jural Assemblies, but an "Update Election" must occur to open membership to all adult members of the community--- with this one exception, that women may serve as proxies for their husbands upon the husband's grant of his agency to his wife. This basically means that she may act for her husband with his written consent in all matters stipulated as part of his grant of authority.

It is important to note that all people are part of the land and soil jurisdiction of their country, while persons are part of the sea and maritime jurisdiction.

As a result, land and soil jurisdiction courts organized by Jural Assemblies are courts for people.

Sea and maritime jurisdiction courts organized by Jural Societies are courts for unincorporated (trade) and incorporated (commercial) businesses -- not people.

Please also note that no Jural Assemblies can be incorporated. They operate exclusively as unincorporated businesses and all their Officers and their members are operating in unincorporated capacity, too.

So, when you embark upon the adventure of creating a Jural Assembly you must (1) choose and declare that you are acting in your capacity as one of the "people" of this country, (2) you must record your choice with a land recording office formally re-conveying your Trade Name to the land and soil of your State, (3) you must accept the rights, responsibilities and duties of a State Citizen when you act as a Juror or in any other Public Office of the Jural Assembly, (4) you must meet the basic requirements and thereby establish "standing" to act in the capacity of one of the People of your State.

Please note that land and soil are inextricably connected. Soil is defined as the first six inches -- the very top layer --- of the land, while land is all the underlying strata.

I am often asked --- why can't People of Color and Women organize the initial Jural Assembly? They can, they just can't make up part of the Quorum for a Jural Assembly until at least a minimum Jury Pool of originally qualified electors has been organized and has conducted an Update Election allowing membership to them. Again, this isn't anything arbitrary or racist or sexist. It is simply the fact that we are restoring a court system that hasn't been updated since 1860, and at that time, neither People of Color nor Women were allowed as part of the Quorum. That's why an "Update" Election is needed.

I am also often asked -- why is it necessary to formally declare the capacity in which you are acting and also explicitly re-convey and claim your Trade Name? The short answer is that (1) you could get into trouble with federal Territorial authorities (what I call "Federales") if you don't, and (2) your Trade Name has already been shanghaied into the foreign jurisdiction of the sea, so, it requires official recorded (never registered) action on your part to "return" to the land and soil jurisdiction, which is a fundamental requirement for you to form a Jural Assembly (otherwise, all you could form would be a Jural Society).

Once everyone has done their paperwork and established their bona fides as people born on the land and soil of one of the American States or to parents or a parent born on the land and soil of one of the American States so as to be an Inheritor (this can go back three generations for those born in the unenrolled Western States*) --- you are ready to begin.

A Jural Assembly has Offices. All of these Offices are held in behalf of unincorporated business entities and are unincorporated Offices. Those Offices include the local Town and County Sheriffs entrusted with enforcement of the Public Law, the land jurisdiction State Judges (properly called "Justices") and the soil jurisdiction County Court Justices known as "Justices of the Peace". It also includes Court Clerks, Recorders, Bondsmen, Deputies, Public Notaries and Coroners.

All of these Offices are elected by members of the Jural Assembly who are the qualified Jurors making up the Jury Pool from which all Trial and Grand Juries are drawn by lot.

The land jurisdiction State Courts doing business simply as, for example, The Ohio State Court, enforce the Public and Organic Laws of Ohio including the provisions of The Constitution for the united States of America. The local County Courts also enforce these same laws, although there may be particular --- even peculiar --- local laws pertaining to soil and water and security issues of their soil jurisdiction.

All land and soil jurisdiction courts operate under the provisions of American Common Law. We do not practice Equity Law which is a hybrid of English Common Law and Admiralty Law.

The Land Jurisdiction County Sheriff is the highest ranking law enforcement officer in each County. All sea jurisdiction LEO's and corporate security personnel (Pinkertons) and subcontractors (Agency Personnel) report to your elected Land Jurisdiction County Sheriff ---- not the other way around.

Your Jural Assembly elections to fill the Offices of the Court are conducted as standard Public Elections, though all Electors must meet the same eligibility requirements as the members of the Jural Assembly. That is, you can't cross over and vote in the Private Corporate Elections of the Jural Societies, and they can't come over and vote in your Public Elections of the Jural Assemblies.

The two jurisdictions are mutually self-exclusive, as one cannot be on the land and on the sea at the same time.

Once your Jural Assembly Jury Pools are filled and your Officers have been elected, your Court is open for business --- for your members only. As these are people Courts they deal only and exclusively with people business---issues of private property and assets, marriages, probate, and estates of people, rights of people, and so on. They can hear "Mixed Jurisdiction" cases in which people and unincorporated businesses have issues with other unincorporated or incorporated businesses, and Jural Assemblies can act as Parties to cases.

For example, People of Colorado versus Simon P. Jenkins and Sons, or People of Lords County v. IBM.

These are, essentially, the equivalent of "class action cases" in the land jurisdiction courts of our States and Counties.

They don't hear any issues arising among incorporated (commercial) entities. That is the business of the Jural Societies and their courts.

It is important to understand from the outset that these two court systems arising from the two different kinds of Jural Organizations under discussion (there are others) are completely separate hierarchies. Many people have grown up with the assumption that their State and their County are still functioning --- and yes, they are, but just by the skin of their teeth.

The organizations that were at one point operating the land and soil Jural Assemblies have been largely displaces in many areas by private corporate courts operated by Jural Societies instead. That is largely the result of the Great Fraud perpetuated by FDR and by the desire of many persons (as opposed to people) to share in federal racketeering kickbacks such as "Federal Block Grants".

Many auspices of our State and County and Local Government have been taken over via a surreptitious, secretive, and fraudulent undisclosed process of unlawful conversion, which takes place when a State or County organization is "converted" to operate as an incorporated "State of State" franchise of any foreign Territorial or Municipal Commercial Corporation.

No Jural Assembly, no actual State, no actual State Court, no actual County, and no actual County Court can be incorporated. Upon being incorporated, people become "persons" and the law of the land is converted to the law of the sea and the courts are operated by Jural Societies under international law instead of being operated by Jural Assemblies under National and local law.

If you think about it a moment you will see how the process of "incorporating" everything has been used to promote a de facto take over of our government and led to the rampant criminality with which we now contend. You can also see how important it is for each one of us to get off our duffs and do the work.

Our unincorporated courts still stand over theirs and our people still stand over their persons ---- but we must do this work of self-governance or we will have no country and no justice left. We must awaken our sleeping friends, families, and neighbors and ring the alarm. We must organize our Jural Assemblies and operate our States and Counties and re-enter all the Offices that have been secretively vacated.

Millions of us remain to be awakened and much work remains to be done, but there are now Jural Assemblies operating in every State of the Union. Find yours at: www.national-assembly.net.
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Jan 17, 2019 11:59:25   #
Good Morning Seth,
This is quite interesting and I fwd it to you. A PAG could get the Take Heed Notice attached and this info to all the IRS defendants and make a hell of a dent in your conviction ratio.

As to the IRS, there are a lot 'points' to be stated or accepted as facts! In fact, too many to list here.
Just because Irwin Schiff was prosecuted and convicted does not mean he was liable, and most likely, the IRS did not produce the IRS code that made him liable, as it does not exist. There are a lot of people who have prevailed against the fraudulent income tax ...especially involving people who work for a wage, as a wage IS NOT 'Gain or Profit,' therein the wage is not taxable! The interest, etc., is 'gain & profit' and is taxed.

In a matter I handled for a friend, we use a FOIA to the IRS, asked for four (4) things:

1) Any ‘Security Agreement’ signed by ‘Wilson Picket Jones’ for WILSON P JONES in favor of the Internal Revenue Service (IRS)
2) Any ‘United States Federal Court Judgment’ in favor of UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, or United States of America and or Internal Revenue Service (IRS) and against WILSON P JONES.

3) Any Contract signed by Wilson Picket Jones with the IRS creating tax liability.

4) Any evidence of whatever nature that Wilson Picket Jones is subject to IRC at Section; 6331 (a) or is a ‘corporate officer’ or is a ‘corporation.’

IRS FOIA response came back; "we can find no documents in support of your request." NO EVIDENCE OF LIABILITY. Purpose of the FOIA was to validate a $110,000.00 IRS lien on his property/land. Since no evidence was produced by the IRS, in support of the lien not documents not filed at the State level nor the County level, we terminated the IRS lien at the county level. IRS never came back to say 'Boo!' ...or anything else!

WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN ??????

This communiqué is not intended to mislead, defraud, deceive or threaten in any way and is submitted in “good faith and with clean hands.” I do lawful not legal and this is my best effort.

I close with Love, peace, harmony and a prayer. A US Marshal has determined my prayer is not a threat. He then reneged on his word, which is only good one time. "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition."

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Jan 17, 2019 11:56:53   #
Please clarify. Is that a yes or no.

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Dah, dah, dah, dah and on it goes to infinity. Stupid sheet!
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Jan 17, 2019 00:42:52   #
Never used it. I'll try it.

The Critical Critic wrote:
Not a lick, Ron. But with google translate, I can read and write in over a hundred languages.
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Jan 17, 2019 00:12:03   #
hablas Espanol? (sp) not a Spanish keyboard.

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Jan 16, 2019 23:39:12   #
Con is with in Spanish.

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Lol, this is priceless, Don. Hey Don, where were you educated? I hope it was free. If you had to pay for it, you should hire an attorney and file charges against them for unarmed robbery.

"Prefixes”are key morphemes in English vocabulary that begin words. The prefix con-, which means “with” or “thoroughly,” appears in numerous English vocabulary words, for example: connect, consensus, and conclude. An easy way to remember that the prefix con means “with” is through the word connect, or join “with.”

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Lol, this is priceless, Don. Hey Don, where were y... (show quote)
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Jan 16, 2019 19:50:30   #
We have 890 views and damned few that made a stand. I find that sad. No Loki, no Linda Joy. Maybe they missed it. Would someone give them a heads up?
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Jan 16, 2019 17:46:42   #
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You should get a dictionary to go with your thesaurus.


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Jan 16, 2019 13:45:46   #
You're like talking to a bucket of rocks. You just keep writing ignorant prose. The Constitution brings forth the Articles of Confederation. It is not Democracy. I am done with you.

dongreen76 wrote:
The articles we're no longer germaine as of 1789.The US constituion displaced it.You said Lincoln broke the law - What? , articles of confederation laws that were not revelant any more.Lincoln owed allegiance to the Constitution that was ratified in 1789, not the governing document that existed prior to that date.When the president of the United States , whom takes a sworn solemn oath to abide by protect the principles and values that the Constituion adheres-that constituion that the mandate of the Democracy has decreed,if he does not adhere to this ,he can be construed as treasonous.You implied Lincoln to be a traitor.At least you are advocating,Constructionism,as opposed to THE MAGNA CARTER - still in all,that is nothing to be proud of,because it is questionable whether the Articles of Confederation resembles more or less totaltarisim more so than the king's laws,The Magna Carter- the articles of confederation does not allow for women's rights,nor for nig-negroes rights,and other imperfections that does not corroborate the principles of a free,just, equal society- furthermore - you are abreast with the confederatecy,within the Articles,it had no provisions for the abolishment of slavery,The south wanted it sustained.It also had no provisions to eliminate the in-equality of women, just to mention a few descrepancies for those trying to adhere to the philosophies of trying to be a free country.
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Jan 16, 2019 11:54:28   #
thank you

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I’m one.
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Jan 16, 2019 11:02:21   #
I did not analyze Lincoln. Nor did I define him as traitor. I deny your conclusions.
Articles of Confederation came before Constitution and is still 4 corners on the table. you are my enemy. You identified yourself and I named you.

I do not identify with the Confederacy nor do I stand by sedition nor treason.
Treason takes two to make. I wonder how many would stand with me against you and your ilk?


The two cases filed into the one supreme Court of Article III state two of my positions.
Unlike you I have the courage of my convictions and actually "stand and deliver."

[quote=dongreen76][quote=ron vrooman]Still typing words but incapable of typing yes or no.

Yes the laws are clear Lincoln broke them in 1861 and no one has fixed them yet. We only have color of law a legal fiction brought to us by the BAR.[/quote
So by your analysis Abraham Lincoln was the traitor-huh`? This is why I think "YOU PEOPLE" should shut up.You do not comphrehend what you converse of,by your analysis I am your enemy,Lincoln was your enemy.The word Confederate is self explanatory-The prefix syllable -CON -meaning against,and the transitive of the word federal - federate , meaning a controlling centrist of some type of establishised UNION.There fore since I am with the established Union and you Identify with the CONFEDERATE,and you declare me and Lincoln your enemy - that makes you the law breaker and the traitor.Your coharts as much as Identified themselves as such - The CONFEDERATE STATES OF AMERICA, Are you sure want to stand by this seditionisim,At least they understood what Ideas they represented.At least they knew they were the Rebels-from the word rebellous,which means to verse some idea,or authority.[/quote]

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Jan 15, 2019 20:12:04   #
A Constitutional Republic form of government that we have, enumerates the responsibilities of government. Government is not incorporated as it forfeits its sovereignty when incorporating. The beneficiaries( I am one of them) hold the sovereignty within our Republic and the government is servant to the creators. The United States of America has several founding documents all 4 corners on the table. There is no other upon this planet, where the people are supreme over government.
Since 1861 the bogus corporate governance has been working to overthrow our Constitutional Republic.

The Donald is the main reason it did not happen. 41 now dead, thank God, 42, 43, 44 need to be tried and if found guilty punished for their diabolical efforts.

You are completely clear to me. You are my enemy.


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What you don't understand stand is a whole lot . Specifically you don't understand what the word constituion means .The succinctest meaning of a word is always the standard you should use to determine if you are using it right ,
and if you have a clear cut definition or understanding of what the word really means.This is what I was taught in elementary school.This process is called READING - comphrensive reading to be exact.Remember seeing this on your report card.
Now I will attempt to explain to you why you can't do this,why "YOU PEOPLE" should shut up.This is the succinctest definition I can give you as to what constituion means .THE GUTS of something.The ingredients of something,it's internal make up,it's construction.Did you ever here Justice Scalia,or Justice Gorsuch's refer to themselves as Constructionist.They believe in the Constitution as it was originally written or constructed.
When you made your declarative of we are - A Constituional Republic this is why we have the best govern in the world" I discerned that you did not understand what the word Constitution means,nor do you know what a Republic is,you don't have a clear cut understanding of what a Democracy is,nor Communisim,nor Socialisim,in short you don't understand shit.This is why I downloaded the document to show you that China lives under a Constitutional Republic also,so does Russia,everyone that is Civilized has a constituion,I would venture to say every civilized entity in the world has a governing body that can be construed as a Republic.If you apply the succinctest definition of what a Republic is this is merely a body of mean that sign off as to what the rules and regulations that people are to be governed by.Hence what ever type of governing body you have loosely can be construed as Republic -ism- this is why China and Russia refer to themselves as Republics -socialisim deals loosely with economics,so does communism. Ogliarchs .Dictators,Facisim, Monarchies, Nazism,The more or less totaltarian forms of rule is just that totalisim over the social culture as well as the economics of the matters of such.
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Jan 15, 2019 15:19:46   #
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Dong reen speaks several languages, only one is sometimes understood.


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