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Apr 27, 2018 14:52:27   #
woodguru wrote:
How does the right explain off all of the charges against Trump staff all through the campaign, election, transition, and presidency?

Where there is money laundering and crimes it's very likely Trump had his hand in too.

Collusion is a tiny tip of a huge iceberg, and Mueller's scope with the FBI has full access to tax returns for more than seven years, and any and all real estate transactions with their paper and banking trails. Then there is campaign and non profit foundation abuse, we know he was being looked at for that during the campaign. Just because Mueller isn't leaking everything he's working on doesn't mean the full picture isn't being put together.

There will be enough things to add up to several lifetimes. Trump already had cases being looked at before he decided to run. Flynn was being looked at by the FBI, Manafort was being looked at. Trump screwed up surrounding himself with criminals. Ever wonder why he's so comfortable with criminals?
How does the right explain off all of the charges ... (show quote)



http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/27/house-report-backs-claim-that-fbi-agents-did-not-think-flynn-lied-despite-guilty-plea.html
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Apr 27, 2018 12:29:45   #
promilitary wrote:
And they don't protect you from crime. Talking with our sheriff about guns and protection, he said it is advisable to own a gun
and know how to use it because he nor his deputies cannot provide that protection. In the time it takes to make the 911 call,
and then for law enforcement to arrive, the damage is already done. Better to have a gun in your hand than the police on the phone.

85% of law enforcement time is investigating crimes already committed and writing up reports.


Exactly, and most people ignore this reality.

Our local sheriff's tell people the same thing.
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Apr 27, 2018 12:00:18   #
Oh my goodness HE might have hired prostitutes to pee on a bed..how funny...
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Apr 27, 2018 11:58:29   #
woodguru wrote:
How does the right explain off all of the charges against Trump staff all through the campaign, election, transition, and presidency?

Where there is money laundering and crimes it's very likely Trump had his hand in too.

Collusion is a tiny tip of a huge iceberg, and Mueller's scope with the FBI has full access to tax returns for more than seven years, and any and all real estate transactions with their paper and banking trails. Then there is campaign and non profit foundation abuse, we know he was being looked at for that during the campaign. Just because Mueller isn't leaking everything he's working on doesn't mean the full picture isn't being put together.

There will be enough things to add up to several lifetimes. Trump already had cases being looked at before he decided to run. Flynn was being looked at by the FBI, Manafort was being looked at. Trump screwed up surrounding himself with criminals. Ever wonder why he's so comfortable with criminals?
How does the right explain off all of the charges ... (show quote)


How funny, maybe you should look at how some of these folks ended up working w/ Trump.
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Apr 27, 2018 11:55:26   #
Bwhahahahaha...

Sing like a bird against Trump?? Are you sure about that?? What he's under investigation for has nothing to do with Trump..

People have no clue that this man is not 'just' a lawyer, but a businessman in his own right, owning his OWN businesses that have nothing to do with the President. He has his own real estate businesses and owns a Taxi Company..

One of his own business partners had been under investigation for not paying Taxes..
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Apr 27, 2018 11:38:16   #
This is no different than what happens RIGHT here in America every day..
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Apr 27, 2018 11:28:35   #
bahmer wrote:
Could be. I heard that if Trump fired Rosenstein then Sessions would quit and I though that deal was to good to pass up.


Sessions DID NOT threaten to QUIT, that is a LIE...

He did however offer to resign, not because of Rosenstein, But because of the supposed twitter attacks by the President towards him--but what MOST people are unaware of--even those were BY design and not 'real attacks' or better put "not serious" attacks by the President towards him (or even a serious threat to resign--He had to respond in some way), but in order to get Congress, the Public and OTHERS demanding the release of the information..thus making EVERYTHING public.
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Apr 27, 2018 11:17:28   #
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/paul-manafort-has-been-on-the-fbis-radar-since-2013

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/04/23/the_hidden_bombshell_in_the_mccabe_report_136882.html

http://thefederalist.com/2018/04/24/bombshell-fec-records-indicate-hillary-campaign-illegally-laundered-84-million/

https://ijr.com/2018/04/1088172-sessions-wont-recuse-michael-cohen/
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Apr 27, 2018 10:12:34   #
http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/26/doj-missing-peter-strzok-lisa-page-texts/


http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/27/read-the-strozk-page-texts-in-full/
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Apr 27, 2018 10:08:37   #
Maybe ya'll should read and listen to other news media outlets.

Session's KNOWS there was NO Russian Collusion with the Trump campaign or Trump's inner circle at ALL, so why would he involve himself in that when he has MORE Important things to attend to and get accomplished??

DOJ has been VERY Busy IF You paid attention You would know that.


"On March 2, Attorney General Jeff Sessions recused himself from “any existing or future investigations of any matters related in any way to the campaigns for President of the United States.” Everyone forgot the line that followed: “This announcement should not be interpreted as confirmation of the existence of any investigation or suggestive of the scope of any such investigation,” he added. But what he did not say was that the announcement should not be interpreted as denial of the existence of any such investigation.”

In fact, Sessions inherited an ongoing investigation by the Inspector General Michael Horowitz. There was an investigation under way (perhaps many) at the very moment Sessions uttered those words. (Yes, these investigations were demanded BY the Democrats because of Comey's actions before Trump was even sworn into office)

Sessions could not personally lead the attack on the Swamp, nor could he ignore the criminality. He needed to be seen as doing nothing—prosecuting the “dark web,” or Medicare fraud, or MS-13—while someone else did the heavy lifting. His solution was elegant in design, brilliant in conception. If he could not investigate, he certainly would be obligated to follow through on demands from other legitimate sources—the Inspector General or Congress—who discovered criminal behavior and demanded action. Much of this was handled by his #2, Rod Rosenstein, who quietly in mid 2017 initiated separate investigations of the U1 scandal and Hillary’s e-mails. Rosenstein also picked up and continued an ongoing FBI investigation of the Clinton Family Foundation, supporting it with offices in Los Angeles, New York, D.C., and Little Rock.

First, it was revealed there was an investigation of Hillary’s e-mails that had been going on “for months.” Next, in January Sessions announced that Cody Hiland was appointed prosecutor of the Clinton Family Foundation in Little Rock. (Notice that a grand jury was empaneled there also appeared, but so far it is not clear if Hiland himself empaneled that grand jury, if it was a routine grand jury for the district, or if Hiland “re-purposed” the grand jury.

it was then revealed—again in a response to Congress—that there was an ongoing investigation into the U1 scandal. It was later revealed by Sessions that there not only was a prosecutor looking into the various illegalities that Horowitz was uncovering (which obviously Sessions knew about) but that Sessions named the prosecutor (John Huber) and it was later leaked that Huber had empaneled a grand jury. And that the investigation that Huber took over had been going on . . . “for months.”

it was clear to all but the most obtuse that Sessions had been silently setting up three separate investigations in late 2017 and was using the opportunity of Congressional requests to make them public. There were other DOJ investigations too into the Clinton/DNC machine, including an FEC violation (that the Federal Elections Commission itself) was investigating. (This applies to many here, who apparently are NOT paying attention--and of course the media)


https://bigleaguepolitics.com/heres-jeff-sessions-might-playing-4-d-chess/

And given Session's IS NOT Stepping away from the Micheal Cohen Investigation..It's apparently NOT about Russian Collusion of the Trump campaign..


Of course there is this:

https://nypost.com/2018/04/06/backpage-com-shuts-down-after-reports-of-fbi-raid/

https://nypost.com/2018/04/12/backpage-ceo-pleads-guilty-will-cooperate-in-prostitution-case/


Why not take a look over at the DOJ's webpage and check out what's been going on behind the scenes the media isn't reporting--while they focus on some made up Collusion between Trump and Russia..

https://www.justice.gov/

Oh yeah..and others aren't paying attention to other things going on as well--such as Big shot atty who mysteriously quit his law firm

http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/24/obama-lawyer-mueller-manafort/

And then 6 months worth of text messages between Strozk and Page have been released...

And people forget Prestrap, who Comey through under the bus during his testimony who has been singing like a bird to the IG throughout ALL of this..
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Apr 6, 2018 12:58:24   #
bahmer wrote:
Very interesting thanks for the info. At least once in our history we tried to keep a persons ego in place. Now not so much.


My dad had no such pride, and he would go buy them, and given they could also be used to buy vegetable seeds (even now they can be) so that people could/can plant vegetable gardens and help grow their own food..that's what he did, and we had a HUGE garden every year, and then we would can everything. He even made sure to rent a house that had established fruit tree's and a place he knew he could have small farm animals, to help keep the food costs down, he even had us kids raising red worms and selling them to people he knew that fished, and we got to keep the money from anything we sold, that was his way of not having to give us money whenever we asked, or needing to ask. "you got some red worms out there you can go sell some worms', you got chicken eggs, go collect some of those and sell them, earn you some money." He also paid us to iron his work uniforms, and washing the car or mowing the lawn so he didn't have to do it himself. Household chores, no allowance, anything above and beyond that..he would pay.
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Apr 6, 2018 12:44:59   #
eagleye13 wrote:
You relate to something that was going on.
When I was in college, there were people coming on campus, telling us to apply for food stamps (1970). The most well off room mate of mine applied for food stamps and got them. It just didn't seem right to me and the other room mates.



Well off by whose standards? Maybe their parents were wealthy, but that doesn't mean the college student is, maybe their parents weren't helping w/ all of their college expenses? Our parents didn't help put us through college. And given it was the 1970's that's when you had to pay the government for food stamps--so they may have used the money their parents sent for food to help purchase the food stamps--allowing the money to go further. Maybe why they were better off financially??? I think back then as long as a family was willing to give the government money for food stamps no matter what their income level was, they could.

Imagine, if you knew on your income today, you could go down to the food stamp office and give the government a check for $100 for $150 or $200 to add to your food budget every month would you do it??
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Apr 6, 2018 12:39:35   #
pafret wrote:
Bug, your points are well made and these are the type of people that welfare and assistance, by any name, is intended to help. There is one common factor in these instances you cite, everyone was looking for work. Temporary setbacks can occur to anyone but some people make this their way of life. These free loaders are the ones who incite anger towards those who use government assistance to pay their bills.

Usually, it is in a supermarket where this becomes obvious. I remember a time long ago in Pennsylvania when the price of beef had become outrageous. It reached $2.50 for chuck roasts or steaks and $1.90 for burger. The price was so high that everyone was boycotting beef.

On one shopping trip, the woman in front of me at the checkout had a wagon loaded with expensive cuts of beef. Not Chuck or burger, it was Top Sirloin, DelMonico Steaks and Club Steaks. Her wagon had about thirty steaks and roasts in it and it was annoying that she wasn't supporting the boycott. When she paid it was infuriating because she used food stamps to pay for the meat. We who were working couldn't afford the prices she was paying with our money.

No scenario I could think of would justify her purchase of such high priced food. Food Stamps were not that generous and if the party using them wasn't careful, of what they bought, they could go hungry. This woman obviously had no such concern. It could be explained if she had plenty of savings but if she had such assets why was she on welfare?
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I understand the argument, my point was that in many cases, people don't know the circumstances of the person standing in front of them in the grocery store.

Years ago, when I was growing up, if people wanted food stamps, they had to pay the government for them. I don't know what years your referring to of those boycotts, but maybe she purchased those food stamps just so she could afford those things. People's pride kept many people from doing so, or maybe they just weren't aware of how they worked and that they could purchase them?

https://www.snaptohealth.org/snap/the-history-of-snap/
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Apr 6, 2018 12:30:07   #
vettelover wrote:
Great Post - Many Americans do not understand this.


I know most people do not understand this, I talk to them all the time.

I had an opportunity to talk to one of my neighbor's about this very topic recently. It was interesting as she was talking about how she doesn't think
anyone should be able to own a gun 'unless they are police or military'. I said, so you want a policed/criminal state??

She said "No"

I said, but that is what you just said, you only want the police or military to be able to own gun's
I asked her, do you honestly think criminal's would turn in their guns?
Do you think the drug dealer, or thief is going to turn in their guns?

She gave a puzzled look and admitted No, they wouldn't.

We live in a rural area, so I asked her, 'if someone breaks into her home, how long does she think it will take the police to get there?"
If they have another call how long do you think it's going to take?

She say's "If the person breaking in has a gun, we'd all be dead, by the time the police get here". (most likely, if that is there intent)

We discussed some of these articles and how the police do not have a duty to protect or even stop a crime even if they witness a crime happening..

We discussed the gun laws in England, and Australia and that while yes, they can get certain licenses to own gun's they can't use those guns
for self defense--she thinks that's crazy.

Needless to say, by the end of that part of the conversation, she was having a change of heart. While she may not purchase a gun, she has a better understanding of the issue.

Was talking to someone else recently, who happens to teach police officers, and he wasn't aware of these things either, and asked what court cases determined that, so I started listing some of them and let him look them up for himself. Needless to say, he was shocked.

Another friend's son was adamant I was lying when I brought this up, so I showed him the court rulings, he tried to say "I was misinterpreting what the court's ruled" I gave him a couple links to some books written BY lawyers who wrote on the topic, I suggested he purchase and read them and become informed citizen.
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Apr 6, 2018 09:27:25   #
Nickolai wrote:
There is nothing wrong in photo ID except for the fact that it was not an issue until Brack Obama won in 2008 presidential election then suddenly it was a big problem and we needed voter ID. It was clearly a way of suppressing the votes of minorities, poor people and college students Democratic voters.


Why do you assume it will suppress ANYONE'S Vote??

Do you honestly think minorities, poor people or college students have problems getting an ID Card??

Do you think they are too stupid to get one?? Talk about racist.

College students can't get an id?? BS,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBxZGWCdgs


When I needed to get a new license last year, I had to jump through those same hoops of needing to get a copy of my birth certificate, and get a copy of marriage license, and other such things. My husband had to take time off from work and go out of state trying to locate some of his information from when he was adopted back in the 1960's.

When my daughters got their drivers license and voter ID Cards, they had to provide ALL their information too, marriage licence showing name changes, birth certificates, SS Cards, proof of address. While locating all of those things are time consuming for people, they are just as time consuming for ANYONE who needs to get them.
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