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Apr 21, 2014 11:27:03   #
bdamage wrote:
Dr. Savage wonders why individuals who are obviously deranged or just plan unproductive are allowed to vote, just like he does.

He explains how far the notion of democracy has fallen since the days of the ancient Greeks:

"Democracy was not invented for times like this," Savage proclaimed, adding:

You have more people on Medicaid and Medicare than live in England.

You have more non-working Americans than ever in history.


Tell me why somebody on welfare should vote.

Of course he'll vote himself a raise -- a fat slob who does nothing.

The ancient Greeks didn't invent democracy for times like these.

It was invented for a homogeneous society in limited numbers.

Then they knew they could have cohesion and come to rational decisions.

You're telling me this government is rational?

The reason we have Obama is because of the leeches, the bums and the illegal aliens.

Anybody who got where they are by working hard knew who Obama really was just by looking at him.

You know I'm right, but you know that you can't say it.
Dr. Savage wonders why individuals who are obvious... (show quote)


Bdamage

There are more people with you than you think!

You are right - everyone is afraid to say what you have just written.


Disagree or oppose anything Obama and his crowd are doing you are automatically called a racist.

Snoopy
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Apr 20, 2014 06:11:23   #
Wolf counselor wrote:
BoJester BoJester continues to whine
A jellyfish sadly bereft of a spine
Bereft of a soul and bereft of all dignity
A sycophant void of all human civility

YAALO a creature with NO,substance, No significance, No respectability, and absolutely NO chance of being considered a relevant contributor to anything other than heinousness and miscreancy.


Wolf counselor

I LOVE It when you put BoAsshole in his place!

Great work,

Snoopy
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Apr 16, 2014 07:45:37   #
Snoopy wrote:
Just sayin

Well put!

No one has mentioned the Encore Clause in this issue which states the Feds have only limited use of public land, I.e. Forts, military installations, docks, etc.

Snoopy


Just sayin

Oops! Sorry, Enclave Clause!

Snoopy
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Apr 16, 2014 07:42:12   #
just_sayin' wrote:
Seen this yet?

The Ballad of Cliven Bundy

I'll tell you a tale, though my name will be added to lists,
Of how Harry Reid sold American Soil
To Chinese Communists...

The ranchers were gone, but one stood steadfast.
It didn't matter that he was the last,
For the rallying cry of the American Spirit
Rang loud and true so all who could hear it
Would be moved to rise again.

Desert Tortoises were the sham cover story
But a clever lie's not a fait accompli-
For in spite of all the nefariousness
Of Reid's Bureau accomplices,
The truth would still be plain.

Two-hundred surrounded the brave family;
Alarming, this brewing calamity.
The Nation again appeared fractured;
Some blinded, but others enraptured
Will remember the Bundy name.

While lesser men may try and fake it
Bundy stood tall and yelled, "Come and take it!"
Where were the reporters for that?
Firmly in Reid's pocket!
Things had gotten insane.

The snipers were there taking aim,
Some cattle were stolen, all part of Reid's game.
The call went out to the Oath Keepers,
"Come protect freedom! Arise all you sleepers!"
Liberty will rise again.

One thousand rode out to the rescue,
Millions more spread word and awaited their cue.
We waited with bated breath-
Surely this would mean death;
Blood will fall like rain.

But the Bureau was surrounded;
Reid's plots and plans confounded
And that agent provocateur-
The traitor saboteur,
Had finally lost the day.

The Feds released Cliven's cattle.
Patriots had won this battle,
And not a shot was fired;
Liberty still lived, merely tired,
But tensions do remain...

For Reid said he'd be back.
So, stand ready for leftist attack!
They will keep on trying,
But we'll keep Freedom from dying!
Our efforts will not be in vain!
Seen this yet? br br The Ballad of Cliven Bundy b... (show quote)


Just sayin

Well put!

No one has mentioned the Encore Clause in this issue which states the Feds have only limited use of public land, I.e. Forts, military installations, docks, etc.

Snoopy
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Apr 15, 2014 16:04:38   #
missinglink wrote:
Could not pass up posting this.


Bob: "Did you hear about the Obama Administration scandal?
Jim: 1. "You mean the Mexican gun running?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: 2. "You mean SEAL Team 6?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: 3. "You mean the State Dept. lying about Benghazi?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: 4. "You mean voter fraud?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: 5. "You mean the military not getting their votes counted?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: 6. "You mean that 3 or 4 of Obama's GAY friends were mysteriously MURDERED when they came forward with claims he was gay, too?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: 7. "The NSA monitoring our phone calls, emails and everything else?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: 8. "You mean the drones in our own country without the benefit of the law?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: 9. "Giving 123 Technologies $300 Million and right after it declared bankruptcy and was sold to the Chinese?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: 10. "You mean the president arming the Muslim Brotherhood?"
Bob: "No the other one.
Jim: 11. "The IRS targeting conservatives?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: 12. "The DOJ spying on the press?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: 13. "Sebelius shaking down health insurance executives?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: 14. "Giving SOLYNDRA $500 MILLION DOLLARS and 3 months later they declared bankruptcy and then the Chinese bought it?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: 15. "The president's ordering the release of nearly 10,000 illegal immigrants from jails and prisons, and falsely blaming the sequester?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: 16. "The president's threat to impose gun control by Executive Order in order to bypass Congress?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: 17. "The president's repeated violation of the law requiring him to submit a budget no later than the first Monday in February?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: 18. "The 2012 vote where 115% of all registered voters in some counties voted 100% for Obama?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: 19. "The president's unconstitutional recess appointments in an attempt to circumvent the Senate's advise-and-consent role?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: 20. You mean the Pentagon blocking access to the Southern Baptist Website?
Bob: "No, the other one.
Jim: 21. You mean the Feds giving millions in contracts to firms owned by fictitious people?
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: 22. You mean the Appeals Court sharply worded opinion that Obama was simply flouting the law with plans to close the Yucca Mountain repository simply because of policy objections?
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: 23. You mean the Feds admitting improper scrutiny of candidate, donor tax records?
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: 24. "The State Department interfering with an Inspector General investigation on departmental sexual misconduct?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: 25. "Clinton, the IRS, Clapper and Holder all lying to Congress?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: 26. "I give up! ... Oh wait, I think I got it! You mean that 65 million low-information voters who don't pay taxes and get free stuff from taxpayers and stuck us again with the most pandering, corrupt administration in American history?
Bob: "THAT'S THE ONE!"
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Missing link

Watch the performance on this info you will get from Brian and BoAsshole!

Snoopy
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Apr 15, 2014 14:58:57   #
Billhuggins wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


Bill higgins

P.S. She got the job!

Snoopy
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Apr 15, 2014 13:16:10   #
joe1941 wrote:
Too good looking to be a Reid!


Joe1941

No, that's not Reid's son. It is BoAsshole in his younger days.

Snoopy
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Apr 15, 2014 08:03:28   #
Coupdecu wrote:
BLM Action in Nevada is Unconstitutional, Here’s Why


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A direct violation of Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 of the Constitution

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
April 11, 2014

James Madison: "The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined."
James Madison: “The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined.”

The establishment media is now paying attention to Cliven Bundy and his struggle with the Bureau of Land Management. Most of this coverage assumes Bundy is engaged in illegal cattle grazing on federal land.

“The U.S. government is rounding up Bundy’s cattle that it says have been grazing illegally on public lands in Clark County for more than 20 years, according to the land-management bureau and the National Park Service,” CNN reports today.

The BLM insists “Mr. Bundy has… failed to comply with multiple court orders to remove his cattle from the federal lands and to end the illegal trespass.”

It is the BLM, not Cliven Bundy, who is in violation of the law and the Constitution, specifically Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 of the Constitution.

The clause, known as the Enclave Clause, authorizes Congress to purchase, own and control land in a state under specific and limited conditions, namely “for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings,” and not, as the feds now insist, to protect an endangered tortoise.

The Founders were opposed to providing a centralized federal government with unlimited authority to purchase and, as is routinely the case today, seize state and private land.

During the federal convention debates in September, 1787, Elbridge Gerry, who later went on to serve as vice president under James Madison, contended federal purchase of land “might be made use of to enslave any particular State by buying up its territory, and that the strongholds proposed would be a means of awing the State into an undue obedience.”

In order to make certain the federal government did not abuse the Enclave Clause, the words “Consent of the Legislature of the State” were added.

Madison, Jefferson and the Founders were primarily interested in limited government and the diffusion of federal authority over the states for the protection of individual liberty. In 1992, the Supreme Court issued an opinion on the framers’ reasoning behind the state consent requirement (New York v. U.S):

“The Constitution does not protect the sovereignty of States for the benefit of the States or state governments as abstract political entities, or even for the benefit of the public officials governing the States. To the contrary, the Constitution divides authority between federal and state governments for the protection of individuals. State sovereignty is not just an end in itself: rather, federalism secures to citizens the liberties that derive from the diffusion of sovereign power.” (Emphasis added.)

Madison knew unlimited federal power inevitably results in unbridled tyranny. “I venture to declare it as my opinion that, were the power of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for, it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature of the limited government established by the people of America,” he wrote.

Despite the desire of the founders and the originating principles of the nation, conceived as a constitutional republic, the federal government has repeatedly and habitually exacted dictatorial authority in Nevada and throughout much of the West.

“The United States government owns and has broad authority to regulate federal lands in Nevada,” the BLM arrogantly insists. “In response to challenges of federal ownership of the lands in Nevada, the 9th circuit held that the federal government owned all federal lands in Nevada, and that those lands did not pass to the state upon statehood.”

This is in direct conflict with Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 of the Constitution.

Cliven Bundy’s struggle with the BLM in Nevada is exactly the situation Madison and the founders tried to prevent. The federal government does not have the constitutional authority to own land, beyond what is stipulated in the Enclave Clause, and its seizure of land, under the obviously fallacious pretense of protecting a tortoise, is a serious violation of the Constitution.

Madison made it perfectly clear in Federalist Paper 45:

“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined… The [federal powers] will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce… the powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.”

“It’s really about our constitutional rights and statehood,” Bundy has said. “And whether this area known as the state of Nevada is owned by the United States government or is owned by the sovereign state of Nevada.”

Mr. Bundy, despite a propaganda campaign to the contrary launched by the federal government and its subservient media, is absolutely correct – the war shaping up between the Nevada rancher and the federal government is about states’ rights and, ultimately, the rights of sovereign individuals.
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Dear Coup

Hooray!

Someone finally posted the material on the Enclave Clause!

Maybe our government should pay attention to material such as this.

Snoopy
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Apr 15, 2014 06:13:32   #
OldSchool wrote:
I just hope a lot of the protesters and militia groups stayed behind.


OldSchool

Have you ever heard of the Enclave Clause?

It states that the Federal Government can only use state land for a limited amount of reasons, such as forts, docks, etc. The protection of a turtle or solar farms is not one of them

This really should put a halt to government use or control.

Snoopy
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Apr 15, 2014 06:06:07   #
The Dutchman wrote:
The Old Navy

Come gather round me lads and I'll tell you a thing or two,
About the way we ran the Navy in nineteen sixty two.
When wooden ships and iron men were barely out of sight;...
I am going to give you some facts just to set the record right.

We wore the ol' bell bottoms, with a Dixie cup or flat hat on our head;
And we always hit the sack at night but we never "went to bed."
Our uniforms were worn ashore, and we were mighty proud;
Never thought of wearing civvies, in fact, they were not allowed.

Now, when a ship puts out to sea, I'll tell you son, it hurts;
When suddenly you notice that half the crew's wearing skirts.
And it's hard for me to imagine, a female boatswains mate;
Stopping on the Quarterdeck to make sure her stockings are straight.

What happened to the KiYi brush, and the old salt-water bath:
Holy stoning decks at night, 'cause you stirred old Bosn's wrath!
We always had our gedunk stand and lots of pogey bait;
And it always took a hitch or two, just to make a rate.

In your seabag, all your skivvies were neatly stopped and rolled;
The blankets on your sack had better have a three-inch fold.
Your little ditty bag, it is hard to believe, just how much it held;
You wouldn't go ashore with pants that hadn't been spiked and belled.

We had scullery maids and succotash and good old S.O.S.;
And when you felt like topping off, you headed for the mess.
Oh, we had our belly robbers, but there weren't too many gripes;
For the deck apes were never hungry and there were no starving snipes.

Now, you never hear of Davey Jones, Shellbacks or Polliwogs;
And you never splice the mainbrace to receive your daily grog.
Now you never have to dog a watch or stand the main event;
You even tie your lines today; back in my time they were bent.

We were all two-fisted drinkers and no one thought you sinned;
If you staggered back aboard your ship, three sheets to the wind.
And with just a couple hours of sleep you regained your usual luster;
Bright eyed and bushy tailed, you still made morning muster.

Rocks and shoals have long since gone, and now it's U.C.M.J.;
Back then, the old man handled everything if you should go astray.
Now they steer the ships with dials, and I wouldn't be surprised;
If some day they sailed the damned things from the beach computerized.

So, when my earthly hitch is over, and the good Lord picks the best,
I'll walk right up to Him and say, "Sir, I have but one request."
Let me sail the seas of Heaven in a coat of Navy blue.
Like I did so long ago on earth, way back in sixty two."
The Old Navy br br Come gather round me lads and ... (show quote)


Dutchman

Very touching.

I wore the blue in 1952

A wonderful experience and you brought back great memories!

Snoopy
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Apr 14, 2014 07:08:05   #
bmac32 wrote:
Let me obliterate a bit of confusion here: the Obama administration attempted to go to war with a rancher in Nevada. Let me amplify a little bit of truth: They tucked tail and have returned home. And let me add a bit of clarity: they had no choice!

As the nation began to become familiar with the plight of the family of Cliven Bundy, many of us harkened back to another standoff in which the Federal government attempted to bully it's outcome: Waco, Texas and the Branch Davidian massacre.

It is telling that in the Nevada case the feds pulled out so quickly, given all they had indicated they were willing to do to resolve the matter to their satisfaction. They had set up a perimeter around the Bundy's family land, ranch, and home. They had brought in extra artillery, dogs, and snipers. They were beginning the process of stealing more than 300 head of cattle that did not belong to them.

They did so--or so we were told--for the reason of protecting the desert tortoise. But then it was revealed that the Bureau of Land Management had shot far more desert tortoises than the Bundy cattle had even possibly destroyed. We were told they did it because the Bundys had broken federal laws by not paying what amounted to retroactive grazing fees to the federal government. But the Governor of the state of Nevada told us that Bundy had paid every ounce of state tax, met the state requirements, and their family had been improving the property more than 100 years previous.

Finally we were allowed to know the connection between a communist Chinese wind/solar power plant and its connection to that senator named Harry Reid. Evidently a plan had been hatched to use the Bundy property for a solar farm and instead of paying the Bundys, someone, somewhere in the administration believed it was easier to just take what they wanted.

That approach is at least consistent with the readily documented abuse of imminent domain where the government for any number of reasons--few of them valid--have taken to taking what doesn't belong to them. Americans then watch as it gets handed over to some multi-national corporation for the "cause" of the "greater good."

There were a few specific reasons why the feds chickened out in the Nevada desert though.

1. Technology - As the Bundy family members were abused, cameras captured it. Not television network cameras, but dozens of cell phone video devices that gave witness to a Bundy aunt being shoved to the ground, and a Bundy son being tazed. All of this while threatening protestors with dogs, brandished weapons and vehicles was captured, uploaded and made viral to the watching world.

2. States' Rights - As the drama unfolded it became clear that the Governor of Nevada, and the Sheriff of Clark County knew that Cliven Bundy's family had not only not broken any state law regarding the land, but that they had gone to the enth degree to insure compliance with Nevada laws on the property. The Governor and the Sheriff, to their credit, did not favor the feds as a more powerful party in the conflict. Though there must have been pressure from Senator Reid's office, the administration via the Bureau of Land Management, and local officials who were bought and sold like the Clark County Commissioner who told those coming to support the Bundys to have "funeral plans in place."

3. Grassroots Response - As other incidents have transpired in the past, the amount of time it took honest information to reach the grassroots and thus the response to the action came to slow. In the massacre in Waco, most of the nation had been sold a single narrative from the limited media outlets covering the events. Similarly the events surrounding the abduction of Elian Gonzales from his family in Florida and deportation to Cuba took place in such a response vacuum that by the time Americans knew the real story, the damage was done. With the Bundy ranch, internet outlets by the dozen had competing information with the limited "official news" being released by the networks, and in most cases the alternative sources had it correct and usually a full day or so ahead of the news cycle. By the time afternoon drive hit, when the network news rooms in New York were preparing their first stories, talk radio audiences had already been dialing their elected officials in Washington demanding action.

The majority of Americans saw through the efforts to spin the story in Nevada. Couple that with the leadership failures that the American people view the administration responsible for, from Benghazi to the Affordable Care Act, all it took was the unedited video of federal agents tazing Bundy's son, followed by his pulling the wires from his chest and continuing to stand his ground for there to be comparisons made to the American revolution.

It's also important to note that merely pulling back from the Bundy property hasn't settled the matter for the American people either.

The feds have stolen 352 head of cattle, and will not confirm or deny if they euthanized some or all of them. Recompense must be made. And to be candid, I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see if a few ambitious law firms don't try to convince the Bundy family of the validity of litigation.

Fortunately for the American people, the feds were not able to ultimately bully a simple rancher, not for a tortoise, a solar power plant, or a dirty Senator and his administration.

We owe the Bundy family a great deal of thanks for standing tall.

For if the federal government is allowed to do it with one, then there will be nothing stopping them from doing it again.

http://townhall.com/columnists/kevinmccullough/2014/04/13/why-the-feds-chickened-out-on-a-nevada-ranch-n1823838/page/full
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Bmac32

Everything you have stated is TRUE!

The only reason this situation was beaten back is PUBLICITY!

Beware that the Feds want to turn over the internet to the UN, China or Russia.

If that happens there will not be such a rapid response to the next situation by citizens because there will be a blackout.

Snoopy
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Apr 13, 2014 07:59:00   #
hprinze wrote:
LESSON: NEVER DO MENTAL COMBAT WITH A WARRIOR WHO’S BEEN THERE & DONE THAT.

NEVER Stand in Line AGAIN



A TRUE STORY ABOUT GEN McChrystal's resignation in Obama's office, Worth reading from Gen McChrystal's book!

NEVER STAND IN LINE AGAIN (Gen. Stanley McChrystal)
Some men carry and handle their diplomacy better than others........
When former U.S. Military commander in Afghanistan , Stanley McChrystal, was called into the Oval Office by Barack Obama, he knew things weren't going to go well when the President accused him of not supporting him in his political role as President.

"It's not my job to support you as a politician, Mr. President, it's my job to support you as Commander-in-Chief," McChrystal replied, and he handed Obama his resignation.

Not satisfied with accepting McChrystal's resignation the President made a cheap parting shot. "I bet when I die you'll be happy to pee on my grave."

The General saluted. "Mr. President, I always told myself after leaving the Army I'd never stand in line again."
LESSON: NEVER DO MENTAL COMBAT WITH A WARRIOR WHO’... (show quote)


Hprinze

I would break my rule and stand in line!

Actually I would try to drink a gallon or so of water so there would be a proper contribution.

Snoopy
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Apr 12, 2014 18:50:57   #
Weyner wrote:
The feds will think of something to get back at the Rancher and the people who support him,I don't trust Reid he has money that he does not want to loose,Watch Out,Our feds are scumbags!


Werner

I do not trust the Feds. This is NOT over. It is part of the on-going battle.

Snoopy
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Apr 12, 2014 18:48:04   #
lpnmajor wrote:
How many times do we have to go through this same bullshit? This has been posted at least 3 times already. Endlessly repeating the same old stupidity does NOT make it any smarter. Give it a rest.


Pin major

You can NEVER repeat the TRUTH often enough!

Snoopy
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Apr 12, 2014 10:28:52   #
rickdri wrote:
Welcome Zephyr! I think it makes you smart!


Dear Zephyr

I agree with you on EVERY point you brought out.

Welcome aboard!

Beware of those on this site who will attack you for those principles.

Snoopy
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