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I agree with you that a judge's job is to apply the law. But what if applying the law leads to an immoral decision? What is of greater importance, the application of law, or the application of justice?

You focus on the ding-bat Al Franken, but you did not comment on the remarks of Dr. Steve Pieczenick. Do you condone his role in the torture of prisoners at Guantanamo using the justification that national security trumps morality? Follow that up with his decision that the trucker could be legally fired for doing what is necessary to save his life. Do we see a pattern here?

We want judges that interpret the law, not make law. We want judges that follow the constitution. We also want judges that have integrity and a strong moral compass. It is on that final point that I find Gorsuch lacking.

Watch from 18:10 thru 22:25
https://youtu.be/BNWd75Qdffs?t=18m10s

Add to this, his decision in the frozen trucker case, and I'm convinced that the man lacks a sense of compassion and a warped sense of morality.

https://youtu.be/iPhRSZ-xE5M
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/gorsuch-defends-frozen-trucker-case

[quote=eagleye13]Remembering the USS Liberty
http://republicbroadcasting.org/news/remembering-the-uss-liberty/

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While I share your disgust that this event was buried and never fully investigated, do you really think that with the current level of Zionist influence in the top layers of leadership in Washington, and the News, and the Judiciary, that such an investigation will be allowed to occur?

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As far as I am concerned, the jury is still out on the Nunes revelations. If the Larry Klayman story is accurate and to be believed, why did Nunes blow him off before the Comey hearing on Monday? Was the Wednesday news announcement simply covering his ass because of the Klayman threat to go public?

According to Klayman, {During my meeting with House Intelligence Committee counsel Allen R. Sousa I politely warned him that if Chairman Nunes, who himself had that same day undercut President Trump by also claiming that there is no evidence of surveillance by the Obama administration, I would go public with what would appear to be the House Intelligence Committee’s complicity in keeping the truth from the American people and allowing the FBI to continue its apparent cover­up of the Montgomery “investigation.” }

Read Klayman's letter (See attachement) to members of the House Intelligence Committee, and other members of Congress. I don't think that an attorney like Klayman would make these claims, unless he had the proof to back them up!


https://www.newsmax.com/LarryKlayman/chariman-nunes-fbi-james-comey-montgomery-whitsleblower/2017/03/19/id/779551/

http://www.wnd.com/2017/03/the-whistleblower-devin-nunes-must-hear-from/

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Buffalo, I think you need to better document your claims....... just kidding. Good job.

Add these two to the list:

https://www.newsmax.com/LarryKlayman/chariman-nunes-fbi-james-comey-montgomery-whitsleblower/2017/03/19/id/779551/

http://www.wnd.com/2017/03/the-whistleblower-devin-nunes-must-hear-from/

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Are you familiar with the term "jury nullification". This means that every US juror in any criminal case has the right to acquit the defendant even when the evidence presented proves the defendant’s guilt. At first glance, that might seem odd, why acquit someone proven guilty? But consider that this nation has had no shortage of unconstitutional and tyrannical laws, and excessive punishments, on the books throughout its history. Jury nullification serves as a last defense for people prosecuted under such laws.

In this August 2, 2016 article, Nathan Tschepik writes, “jury nullification is the constitutionally guaranteed right of every juror and jury to vote and issue any verdict they see fit without fear of punishment. This freedom from penalty frees the jurors to vote according to their conscience and not be bound to unjust or extraneous laws and punishments. The jury, therefore, has the right not only to judge the facts in a trial, but the very law itself—a right that undergirds the efficacy and basis of the jury system as a check on government power.”

I agree that judges should interpret the laws, not make them. But laws are not immutable, and they are not perfect. There is what is known as "common sense". Gorsuch may have gotten the law right, but he did not get the "justice" right. If a jury can use their god given "conscience" to acquit a defendent against an unjust verdict, cannot a judge use their common sense and conscience to render a fair verdict in the interest of justice?

Last Monday, I delivered to Chairman Devin Nunes and all the members of the House Select Committee on Intelligence a letter urging them to investigate widespread illegal surveillance, not just of President Donald J. Trump and his team both before and after his inauguration but also of hundreds of millions of other innocent Americans by the intelligence agencies.

Key to this investigation is a whistleblower by name of Dennis Montgomery, who as a former National Security Agency (NSA) and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) contractor left the spy agencies with 47 hard drives and over 600 million pages of information, much of which was classified, and came forward, under grant of immunity, to FBI Director James Comey. This information, according to Montgomery, shows that the intelligence agencies, particularly under former Obama Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and former Obama CIA Director John Brennan and their minions, spied illegally and unconstitutionally on prominent Americans, including the chief justice of the Supreme Court, other SCOTUS justices, 156 judges, prominent businessmen like Donald Trump and even yours truly. Indeed, in addition to the mass surveillance revealed by Edward Snowden, these spy agencies, during the Obama administration, spied on “anyone who was anyone” in terms of their perceived status in society. The presumed and logical likely purpose of this spying? The potential for extortion and blackmail by the Obama administration.

However, despite Montgomery coming forward about two years ago, Director Comey, his general counsel and Special Agents James Baker, Walter Giardina and William Barnett, have sat on this scandalous information for this time period. As a result, I felt a duty to the American people to contact Chairman Nunes and the other members of the House Intelligence Committee about this apparent cover-up and bring Montgomery to Congress to testify and produce proof of this “Orwellian Big Brother” violation of the constitutional rights of not just President Trump, but of all of us. The letter, which I penned and had delivered, is here on the Freedom Watch website. A video I put out explaining the reasons behind my actions on behalf of the American people is viewable at the end of this column.

Friday, March 24, 2017, is the deadline I gave Chairman Nunes and his committee members, both Republican and Democrat, to respond to my request to have Montgomery interviewed and then investigate in an appropriate, secure way what he had provided to Director Comey. Chairman Nunes has even asked whistleblowers like Montgomery to come forward. Indeed, all of Montgomery’s classified information is currently in the possession of the FBI, as well as a video of his three-hour interview before Special Agents Giardina and Barnett, where he was put under oath in a secure soundproof room at FBI Field Headquarters in Washington, D.C. Notably, regrettably and predictably it seems, Comey failed to disclose this to the House Intelligence Committee when he himself testified in open session Monday, the same day I delivered my letter to Chairman Nunes. However, thanks to my letter and perhaps other whistleblowers who have apparently come forward, Nunes announced Friday morning that Comey is being hauled back in closed committee session this Tuesday, I would hope to account for his omissions and apparently misleading testimony on Monday. Before that occurs, I hope and plan to meet in person with Chairman Nunes and have him speak with Montgomery.

Learn more about the man front and center in the news today. Get Rep. Devin Nunes’ manifesto for “Restoring the Republic” at the WND Superstore!

The stakes in what Montgomery revealed to Director Comey and his general counsel and special agents could not be higher. How can this nation function and the citizenry live in freedom if they are subjected to what is in effect and in practice a police state, forecast by George Orwell in his famous book “1984”? How can I talk with my clients as a lawyer, and preserve our attorney-client and work product privileges, when our communications are subject to surveillance, and how can the president and his team carry out the affairs of state if they are under the gun of corrupt and dishonest intelligence agency czars like Clapper and Brennan, who wield the power to destroy them, as they did with Gen. Michael Flynn most recently? Of course, we cannot!

I have said many times that if King George III had access to the powers of Obama DIA Clapper and Obama CIA Director Brennan, our Founding Fathers would have never made it to Philadelphia to debate and then sign the Declaration of Independence; they would have been spied upon, their plans uncovered by the British crown, and they then would surely have been arrested, imprisoned and finally executed before they could declare a free and new nation on or about July 4, 1776.

These are the high stakes we find ourselves confronting today, not just in court, as I have successfully litigated in the District of Columbia that these crimes violate the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution. As I explained in my letter to Chairman Nunes and the Committee, the future of United States hangs in the balance.. In addition to my efforts at Freedom Watch, it is time for good men in the Trump administration and the few in Congress, hopefully like Chairman Nunes, to clean house of the “cockroaches” that infest our body politic and threaten to bring the nation down.

You have my pledge to play a major role in this crucial mission, along with brave souls like whistleblower Montgomery, who is risking his life and liberty in coming forward to expose this continuing threat to the republic. Montgomery may not live much longer in any event, as he suffers from a potentially fatal brain aneurism. And, that is why Chairman Nunes and the House Intelligence Committee must move quickly, unlike the apparently compromised FBI Director James Comey, to get to the truth. And, when all of this truth comes out, from Montgomery and other sources, the criminally minded, like former Obama DNI Director Clapper and former Obama CIA Director John Brennan and their pro-Obama minions still embedded in the intelligence agencies, and perhaps even former President Obama himself, must be indicted, prosecuted and ultimately convicted of high crimes against not just President Trump and his team, but also against all Americans.

In short, the time has finally come for the corrupt political and government elite to be held to account before the non-discriminatory blind bar of “Lady Justice,” to prevent this tyranny from ever occurring again! If we do not succeed in this quest, all of our freedoms will be forever lost!

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Everything that I had read and heard about Neil Gorsuch suggested that he was bright, articulate, well reasoned, and followed the law rather than trying to reinterpret it.

I was therefore very astounded by the exchange between Al Franken and Neil Gorsuch at his confirmation hearing on the "frozen trucker" case.

For those of you who are unfamiliar with this issue, I have attached two links - one with the video exchange, and one with the background story.

Please, anyone. If there is something I'm missing here, please let me know. There is the letter of the law, and then there is the spirit of the law (real justice). How could anyone with any ounce of compassion, agree with Gorsuch's opinion in this case?


https://youtu.be/iPhRSZ-xE5M
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/gorsuch-defends-frozen-trucker-case

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Ah, but who is going to investigate the investigator?

"my client, former NSA and CIA contractor Dennis Montgomery, holds the keys to disproving the false claims of those representatives and senators on the House and Senate intelligence committees, reportedly as well as FBI Director James Comey, that there is no evidence that the president and his men were wiretapped.

Montgomery left the NSA and CIA with 47 hard drives and over 600 million pages of information, much of which is classified, and sought to come forward legally as a whistleblower to appropriate government entities, including congressional intelligence committees, to expose that the spy agencies were engaged for years in systematic illegal surveillance on prominent Americans, including the chief justice of the Supreme Court, other justices, 156 judges, prominent businessmen such as Donald Trump, and even yours truly. Working side by side with Obama's former Director of National Intelligence (DIA), James Clapper, and Obama's former Director of the CIA, John Brennan, Montgomery witnessed “up close and personal” this “Orwellian Big Brother” intrusion on privacy, likely for potential coercion, blackmail or other nefarious purposes.

But when Montgomery came forward as a whistleblower to congressional intelligence committees and various other congressmen and senators, including Senator Charles Grassley, Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, who, like Comey, once had a reputation for integrity, he was “blown off;” no one wanted to even hear what he had to say. The reason, I suspect, is that Montgomery’s allegations were either too hot to handle, or the congressional intelligence and judiciary committees already knew that this unconstitutional surveillance was being undertaken. Moreover, given the power of the NSA, CIA, and DNI, for congressional committee heads to take action to legitimately and seriously investigate and if necessary recommend prosecution of officials like Clapper and Brennan could, given the way Washington works, result in the spy agencies disclosing and leaking (as occurred recently with General Michael Flynn), the details of their mass surveillance, ruining the careers if not personal lives of any politician who would take them on."

https://www.newsmax.com/LarryKlayman/chariman-nunes-fbi-james-comey-montgomery-whitsleblower/2017/03/19/id/779551/

[quote=lpnmajor]Did you listen to Nunnes? he said that the incidental material was LEGALLY obtained.

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I call your attention to a portion of the following article by Larry Klayman of "Freedom Watch" and "Judicial Watch".

"my client, former NSA and CIA contractor Dennis Montgomery, holds the keys to disproving the false claims of those representatives and senators on the House and Senate intelligence committees, reportedly as well as FBI Director James Comey, that there is no evidence that the president and his men were wiretapped.

Montgomery left the NSA and CIA with 47 hard drives and over 600 million pages of information, much of which is classified, and sought to come forward legally as a whistleblower to appropriate government entities, including congressional intelligence committees, to expose that the spy agencies were engaged for years in systematic illegal surveillance on prominent Americans, including the chief justice of the Supreme Court, other justices, 156 judges, prominent businessmen such as Donald Trump, and even yours truly. Working side by side with Obama's former Director of National Intelligence (DIA), James Clapper, and Obama's former Director of the CIA, John Brennan, Montgomery witnessed “up close and personal” this “Orwellian Big Brother” intrusion on privacy, likely for potential coercion, blackmail or other nefarious purposes.

But when Montgomery came forward as a whistleblower to congressional intelligence committees and various other congressmen and senators, including Senator Charles Grassley, Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, who, like Comey, once had a reputation for integrity, he was “blown off;” no one wanted to even hear what he had to say. The reason, I suspect, is that Montgomery’s allegations were either too hot to handle, or the congressional intelligence and judiciary committees already knew that this unconstitutional surveillance was being undertaken. Moreover, given the power of the NSA, CIA, and DNI, for congressional committee heads to take action to legitimately and seriously investigate and if necessary recommend prosecution of officials like Clapper and Brennan could, given the way Washington works, result in the spy agencies disclosing and leaking (as occurred recently with General Michael Flynn), the details of their mass surveillance, ruining the careers if not personal lives of any politician who would take them on."

https://www.newsmax.com/LarryKlayman/chariman-nunes-fbi-james-comey-montgomery-whitsleblower/2017/03/19/id/779551/

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Yes, CR, I do remember those days. In most ways, they were simpler and better. But unfortunately, I'm afraid that the ship has already sailed, and there is no going back. Or, if there is, the precursor event to going back to simpler times is not something that the world would want to see.

[quote=buffalo]Here is a comment to the video. This is the only way to fix the broken US health CARE system that private, for profit health INSURANCE corporations extort $500 BILLION in profits from.
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Buffalo, are you saying that the only way to fix the US Healthcare system is the way outlined in the video, or that a system like Canada's Universal Healthcare system is the only way?

If the latter, are you saying that the "free market" works for all things outside of healthcare? Because right now we do not have a free market in healthcare. We have all sorts of rules, regulations, and constrictions on the free market. Rand Paul's plan is the closest that I have seen to what a free market can and should be in healthcare. It puts the individual in charge of his healthcare purchasing decisions.

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Perhaps there are a couple of MD's on OPP that would be better qualified to answer this question. I suspect that a medical practice would probably want to limit the number of medicate patients in the practice since the reimbursement rate is much less than other types of insurance. I know some doctors who do not take medicare patients at all for that reason. If everyone was a medicare patient and doctors got the medicare reimbursement rate for all their patients, I suspect that we would shortly find that there was a shortage of new doctors, or that they would treat patients on a cash basis. I would love to hear what several doctors would say to this idea.

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Anyone with a medical emergency should get treated in an ER. My experience with ER is that they triage ER care. If an illegal immigrant (or anyone else) goes to an ER with a non-emergency issue, they must wait for care while more serious injuries are treated. Is that not the case?

https://youtu.be/w9FUStnkqXQ

Spend the 8 minutes and hear the plan through.