Abortion is an issue because of religion, and only because of religion.

This is like the difference between Jews, Christians and Muslims. Jews say that Jesus was not the Redeemer, the Savior, and they're still waiting for him. Muslims say that Jesus was a great prophet but only a prophet and Mohammed was the greatest, and the last. Christians say that Jesus was in fact the Redeemer, the Savior, and that the Jews and Muslims are all wet.

It is impossible to prove any of it. It's what different people believe, not what they know, it's what they're taught from birth to believe.

Same with the religious flap over abortion. No difference. As long as there is religion, people will argue against science, against reality and in favor of beliefs.

This would make a great Arlo Guthrie song. "There on the group W bench...."

JMHO-Agree that the vote was symbolic because that is all they can do other than shut government down. Immigration-the republicans want a sealed border prior to anyone being legalized. However, I hope they are smart enough to realize that they are powerless to stop the Obama EA. The only entity that can stop Obama is the SCOTUS. The best thing the new congress could do is start implementing their agenda and send bills to Obama for signature . Work on meaningful legislation that will spur the economy and create jobs first and foremost. In time the SCOTUS will rule and we will know whether Obama did or did not overreach. To get into a shouting match with Obama at this stage is useless. Good Luck America !!!

Jonathan Gruber, an MIT architect of Obamacare, paid $400,000 (which BTW is the president's salary), has now admitted, ON SIX SEPARATE VIDEOS, that Obamacare was pushed through due to a DELIBERATE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY and PURPOSELY DECEIVING AMERICANS into believing that the bill was being paid for by Insurance Companies, not taxpayers. That made us "STUPID" and too ignorant to understand what was happening. Of course, that is why PELOSI urged that the BILL BE SIGNED FIRST - BEFORE WE TO LEARNED WHAT WAS IN IT!! LIARS!!!!

Gruber, welcomed at the White House at least 19 times, and also present in the Oval Office with the president, is apparently considered to be a brain trust - but he has no COMMON SENSE at all. He had to have known that he was being videotaped while admitting to the perpetration of a fraud on the people of the United States - SIX TIMES (so far) - and unless there is something underlying which is even more sinister than his admissions, his public confessions were more dim-witted than any insult he could attribute to us.

So here we are, with yet another scandal in which we are the victims of deceit, disrespect and disdain.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/11/15/Gruber-Found-in-Sixth-Video-Saying-how-Democrats-Lied-About-Obamacare-Mislabeling-Tax-Breaks

NO.......It had to do with Cheney, being "responsible, intelligent, trustworthy, honest, honorable, & able to do the job! Any political party should have their donations "severely" limited, so as not to foment corruption, & obligatory paybacks! { NO PARTY! } At the present time, our election system, is so far out of control, {"on both sides"} that it is full of graft, corruption, & greed, at every level. The Tax payers, didn't want this to happen, & it must be stopped. ***Term limits***, limits, on pay, & benefits...."ONLY WHILE IN OFFICE"......These "law makers", are intelligent enough, by virtue of their education, & chosen profession, to set themselves up, for all kinds of "bennies", including extended vacations, & voluntary, "legal" corruption.......They never should be above the law, like EEErake Holder, & King Obamuslim, & "Al the rat Sharpton"!

A few more notables in Both Parties Serving Bilderberger’s CFR/TC/BB AGENDA:

Both Bushes - CFR,B (R)
Both Clintons - CFR,TC,B (D)
Jimmy Carter - CFR,TC (D)
Obama & Biden - CFR (D
Dick Cheney - CFR,TC (R)
Newt Gingrich - CFR (R)
Mitch McConnell - CFR (R)
Rick Perry - BB,2007 (D&R)
John Kerry CFR (D)
John McCain - CFR (R)
Zbig Brzezinski - TC, BB (D)
Henry Kissinger - BB (R) Paul Volker- CFR,TC,BB (D) Alan Greenspan CFR,TC, BB
Ben Bernanke BB
Tim Geithner - CFR,TC BB
David Rockefeller CFR,TC,BB
George Soros - CFR,BB
Albert Gore, Jr. CFR (D)
Donald Rumsfeld CFR ,BB(R)
Jacob “Jack” Lew CFR (D)
Robert Gates BB,CFR,TC (D




THE MEDIA:
George Will - CFR,TC (R)
George Stephanopoulos
CFR, BB (D)
William Kristol BB (R) William Buckley Jr. CFR,BB (R)
Tom Brokaw CFR
FOX owner
Rupert Murdock – CFR, BB
FOX SPINNERS
Dick Morris (D&R)
Charles Krauthammer CFR
Doug Schoen CFR
Washington Post owner
Katherine Graham CFR,TC,BB

David Richmond Gergen - CNN SPINNER BB/CFR/TC/92
Robert B. Reich CFR

Brian Williams - CFR

I've seen it first hand Loki. It is enough to make a person bite nails in half. I had a client who worked for a software company and was really successful too. He bought an old home in our black section of the city, put big bucks into it remodeling and making it nice and then, his poor neighbors went to work.

He and his wife lived in stark terror and he was broken into more times than a liquor store in Ferguson. They couldn't move out fast enough. Ever wonder why these poor neighborhoods can't ever revitalize?

Jealousy really does suck!

Back in the 70's I worked for Control Data Corp located in Valley Forge PA. A number of my Engineer colleagues were involved in real estate transactions, currently known as 'flipping'. They would renovate properties in minimum time and effect a quick resale at significant profits.
One of these Engineers was an extremely devout Christian, who was a member of a sect with a very pronounced social conscience. He decided that he would like to participate in the flipping game but with a twist. He bought property in inner City Philadelphia and renovated it with the idea that it would provide good low-cost housing for those less fortunate than he. He invested a huge amount of money (most borrowed) to bring the building up to code and rented the apartments at essentially his cost.
The tenants proceeded to rip out the copper plumbing and wiring, they stole the toilets and the appliances and then complained to the Philadelphia Housing Authority that the property was sub-standard. The city issued massive fines and court orders to him, to repair and replace etc. After a deliberately set fire and several iterations of repair, replace, fine, repair ad infinitum, he was rendered bankrupt. He owed an enormous debt to the city of Philadelphia in fines. He lost the building, his home, his savings, and his children's college funds.
The tenants (all black) had absolutely no appreciation that someone cared enough about their plight to attempt to provide decent affordable housing.

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