And yet, if you were honest, you would admit that all your Parroted arrogant Bible knowledge comes from one MAN……Arnold Murray of Shepherd’s Chapel. So many of your words are exact repetitions of Murray! It’s impossible not to recognize them for anyone who spends even a small amount of time listening to one of Murray’s programs! A man who claims to have been a “doctor” but with no proof of any degrees and a very mysterious past! Zemirah does not depend on Got Questions! LOL! She actually is a scholar of the Bible. She has devoted her entire life to God and her never ending desire for knowledge. I’m the one who relies on GotQuestions for much of my research……and here is the one on your trusted teacher! You should be more careful when you insult and falsely accuse another person, especially when you are guilty of the charge!

Are the teachings of Arnold Murray and Shepherd’s Chapel biblical?
Shepherd’s Chapel, Arnold Murray
ANSWER

Shepherd’s Chapel is a church/ministry in Gravette, Arkansas, USA, known mainly for its television broadcast featuring the Bible teaching of Arnold Murray. Sadly, the teachings of Arnold Murray and Shepherd’s Chapel are full of error.

Murray demonstrated the signs of a false prophet. He maintained attitudes that were disturbingly un-Christlike. Murray’s habit of branding everyone who disagrees with him as a tool of the devil was a telling sign of his theology. Rather than instruct or correct with love and compassion (Galatians 5:22–26), Murray responded with anger, aggressiveness, and secrecy, and he inspired the same contempt and anger in many of his followers.

Murray’s teaching takes verses out of context, which makes it easy to twist their meaning. He talked about original Greek and Hebrew word meanings, but only when he could pick an alternate translation that seemed to support his opinion. When others questioned his conclusions, Murray attacked the questioner rather than defend his view. Murray came to the Bible with his own pre-conceived opinions and then twisted the Word of God to make it fit.

For example, Murray claimed that Cain was actually the son of Eve and Satan—the serpent seed doctrine. He ignored Genesis 4:1 which says, “Adam made love to his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, ‘With the help of the Lord I have brought forth a man’” (Genesis 4:1). Adam was Cain’s father, and there is no reason to believe otherwise. Murray also connected the parable of the good and bad seed in Matthew 13 with God’s curse of the serpent in Genesis 3 despite nothing in the context to connect the two passages.

Murray taught that there will be no rapture, despite passages such as 1 Thessalonians 4:16 and 1 Corinthians 15:51–52. As is all-too-common with Arnold Murray, he claimed that 95 percent of churches who teach the rapture will accept the Antichrist as their savior (from a November 1985 newsletter). In this way, Murray effectively denied the salvation of anyone who believes in the rapture. It is unsettling to hear a Bible teacher making such claims about those he disagrees with concerning a non-essential point of eschatology.

Shepherd’s Chapel also teaches modalism, a heretical doctrine that denies the Trinity. Murray taught that “Father,” “Son,” and “Spirit” are different titles that God uses at different times. As God takes on different jobs, He uses various names for Himself. Modalism was condemned as a heresy in the first few centuries of the Christian church. It turns God into a deceiver, because passages such as Matthew 3:16-17 definitely describe the Father, Son, and Spirit interrelating to each other. How can the Father speak in the presence of the Son and the Spirit descend on the Son without it making it appear that the three of them are separate persons?

Murray also subscribed to the Christian Identity Movement, which teaches the British are the real descendants of the ancient Israelites. This movement has been the foundation, fuel, and ammunition for a great deal of racial bigotry. Murray denounced interracial marriages, an unbiblical position that itself wavers on the edge of racism.

In addition to doctrinal errors, Arnold Murray also demonstrated violent personality traits incompatible with the position of church leader. His lack of compassion and condescending references to those who disagree with him were the most noticeable sign of his instability. Christians should be wary of anyone who acts as Arnold Murray did and should avoid any teacher who subscribes to the unbiblical views of Shepherd’s Chapel.

Well, on this thread alone he has given four indications of Rumi. Many times through the years he used the exact term, “stay on topic,” or other demands to follow his topics on his threads. This has always been very irritating for him! LOL! He and I have had many conversations on this subject.

He then brought up the Old Testament and Leviticus. Another one of his favorite subjects. He has had many discussions on what he considered harsh and cruel laws of God. He also had a favorite sermon that many threads were created on and that was on “Love Your Neighbor.”………. Or what I referred to as his “Love is all that matters!” He preached that that was all that was necessary to be “in Christ!”

And last, his remark about Texas! Rumi has always hated Texas and the South. He referred to Texas as “Texist” in one of his rants……..The combination of Texas and racist! Two of his multiple identities were Texans and they had nothing good to say about our state! LOL! In one of his rants it became apparent that he didn’t have a clue about Texas. That has always been his downfall. He bites off more than he can chew and gets caught in lies. When Rumi stopped posting, RascalRiley took up the slack and became his main character with Milosia still acting as wingman.

I really don’t know that much about the Penny character, other than my experience with her on this forum and her vicious, vulgar, attack against me, my husband and granddaughter. I started researching Rumi and his many multiple identities in 2015. He has a very distinct personality and this personality will always come out at some point. He also has favorite subjects and often used words and word phrases. He is a wonderful story teller and he loves this game. He is very good at creating these different characters and has had lots of experience! In my opinion, he isn’t this vulgar Penny woman, but as you know, I’m certainly no expert in this field. I’m just going on my research of the last 7 years and many many conversations with him and his multiple identities and a gut instinct! Let’s just say that I wouldn’t bet the ranch on any of this! I just might be wrong! I sure would love to see the entire list of Rumi’s characters! Maybe someday he’ll tell me! 😂

Do I detect an Attitude against Texas? Deja Vu again! Too funny! 😉

And this is your “Real Life”………….You should get out more and do a little actual living, perhaps you would realize there is a big difference between what you read between the pages of a book or on the internet and an actual lived life!

As far as your Biblical knowledge, it is nonexistent! You have no clue as to the relationship that God intended between a man and his wife. It’s evident that you missed this blessing by your bitter comment.

I doubt that RR is a Canadian! That’s just one more lie he has told on this forum! Too many times he has forgotten and used the word “us” instead of “you” Americans. When I confront him he makes up a lame excuse! He’s not as clever as he thinks he is!

And just who will 87,000 more ARMED agents be arresting and searching and Why? You can bet it won’t be the 1%! Bill Gates and all his friends will be protected! It will be Middle AMERICANS that pay the price. Small business will be targeted! 👿

Wait for it…………….! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Ouch!! 🤭😂👍

It’s really sad……….will we starve to death before we’re murdered or murdered before we starve to death!

Thank you Joe Biden!

Have you ever heard of Maxine Waters? I guess you forgot about her gentle encouragement for liberals to follow and harass Trump supporters everywhere they went, to “get in their faces”…and she’s just one example! LOL!


Really…..how can you be so obtuse! It’s evident that you never played sports and never had a coach tell you to get in there and fight like hell! 😂

“But what he DID suggest... what he actually TOLD people to do, is "fight like hell". (the word fight comes up 32 times in his speech) here's a few of them... "you have to get your people to fight." - "we're going to have to fight much harder." - "if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore."

So when you put it all together it's like this... "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard but were going to have to fight much harder. if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore."


From Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English
run/hurt/fight etc like hell
informal not polite to run, fight etc very quickly or very much
My new shoes hurt like hell.
→ hell
Examples from the Corpus
run/hurt/fight etc like hell
• I was able to breathe only with the utmost difficulty, and my arm hurt like hell.
• My forehead hurt like hell and my body was bruised all over, but no bones were broken.
• Must have fought like hell to find its niche within the forest, to distinguish itself within the pack.
• I know he lost his legs first, and then his fingers-he died alone and it hurt like hell.
• Run, North, run; just run like hell.
• I remember running like hell, knowing I was being pursued and looking back for Sarah, who didn't join me.
• Spring sauntered north, but he had to run like hell to keep it as his traveling companion.
• We fought like hell for most of the time.

Bless your heart!……..You’ll be missed! 😉

You’re the one who initiated this total ban discussion! You prove that any state has a total ban on abortions! You are the only person that is spinning a tale on this thread! But, this is just what you have always craved….lots and lots of attention! You’ve worked hard for this one!

The best thing you can do is find a Canadian forum and talk to your countrymen. It’s clear that you have absolutely no reason to be on an American forum! It seems to cause you so much stress! 😉

Good luck, don’t let the door hit you in the ass!

That attitude is what got you the life you have lived!

Are you really this ignorant! I don’t know which is worse …..ignorance or a liar! 🤷🏻‍♀️

Prove that MANY pastors preach that wives must service their husbands anytime he wants! LOL!