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Jan 22, 2014 13:08:42   #
Thats my fear. I worry about folks that support Israel because they believe a Jewish Israel is necessary for the second coming, I don't care if they believe that anybody not believing in the divinity of Jesus is bound for hell. This is America, people can believe, not believe anything they want!
Brian Devon wrote:
Jews might want to read the fine print on a "friendship" agreement with right wing evangelicals. Their loony-tunes blueprint for the "end times", is for Israel to keep the landing strip warm and well lit for Jesus' return. When he comes back, there will be a "rapture" to pick up all the righteous true believers and take them into heaven, with white SUVs, armed with easy-rider rifle racks and Dixie bumper stickers. The plan for the Jews, is that if they don't convert they get to ride to hell in very old Yugos.
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Jan 22, 2014 13:04:09   #
There were a lot of different reasons for Rome's downfall. I think the main reason was ditching the army of citizens for one of mercenaries.
vernon wrote:
yes they want single payer and they want a stslin to but i pray they get neither.and im in the deep south a nd the last dem i voted for was jfk.i left the dems when lbj took the silver out of our currecy.if your not familar with the romans they started going down hill when they devalued their money.it got so bad they didnt want taxes paid with money .
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Jan 22, 2014 12:04:44   #
As a former teacher, I agree with big Albert! We in the ed. business call it critical thinking. Facts can come from a million different sources. Knowing what to do with facts only come from the mind!
jay-are wrote:
Just because Albert Einstein said it doesn't make it true. When did Albert Einstein become God? Training the mind to think, that sounds like indoctrination to me.

How does a post that says "either way is fine with me" provoke thought? That is what Floyd said. Go back and look.
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Jan 22, 2014 11:57:33   #
The left certainly doesn't march in lockstep or even together. There is some truth to the old joke " I don't belong to a political party, I'm a Democrat".I disagree with the current administration on many, many issues. I like the direction that he is going but often not the details. The left of the Democratic Party is angry because they feel he isn't going far enough. An example is health care. They would rather have a single payer than " Obama " care. 1
saltwind 78 wrote:
I am speaking from personal experience. Why else would working people vote against their own self interest? I retired to South Carolina. Many, many of the blue collar working people that I have met fall into one these categories. I remember when the South switched from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party. Don't you find it strange that this shift coincided exactly with Civil Rights movement? It is also true in the North. Having originally come from New York City, I was amazed at how many bigots live there. I stand by my observations. I have not taken a scientific survey, nor do I know of one dealing with this matter.
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Jan 22, 2014 09:12:06   #
As a lifelong Zionist, I have always felt a bit uncomfortable with the Evangelistic Christian support for Israel.I am happy that Israel has support from any group, but given some of their anti Jewish actions of the past, I think that it is understandable. The current joke circulating among my friends is, The left loves Jews but hates Israel while the right hates Jews but loves Israel.This is of course a great oversimplification but has a tiny bit of truth. A few years ago, I went to Israel and was a little taken back with the lack of sensitivity of many of the American church tours . I wrote it off as unthinking boorish behavior that is all too common with any tourism. I would rather have support from Christians than hostility, and realize that my personal feelings may have little basis,
timmh67 wrote:
Here's the issue! A highly funded and well organized group of evangelicals are now taking groups of young people to Israel to show them the "suffering Palestinians." These young people are being told that the suffering of the Palestinians is Israel's fault. WRONG!

It's true the Palestinian's are suffering and have been suffering since 1948 because of Arab leadership. On May 15, 1948, Israel became a State. The next day, five Arab armies attacked the Jews in an effort to kill the State of Israel in the birth canal. Arab leaders told the Arabs living in the war zone to leave the area and as soon as the Jews were defeated, they could return to their homes and live in a Jew-free environment. Miraculously, the Israelis won that war.

Now you have 600,000 Arabs living without homes at the instruction of Arab leaders. These 600,000 suffering Arabs became known as "Palestinian Refugees." They instantly became a propaganda weapon in the media war against Israel. The accusation was that "Israel was the blame." WRONG! Arab leaders caused this situation; not Israel.

Fast forward to the Bill Clinton Administration when President Clinton met at Camp David with Yassar Arafat, the self-proclaimed "sole representative of the Palestinian people" and Prime Minister Barak of Israel. At Camp David, Israel offered Yassar Arafat everything he had asked to achieve a peace agreement. Yassar Arafat instantly said, "NO!" Why? Because the Palestinians have a charter calling for the destruction of Israel and the death of all Jews.

It is true the Palestinians have suffered for 60 years; the source of their suffering has been the abuse of Arabs who have used them as a pawn for their own personal and political objectives.

The objective of these newly formed evangelicals called "millennialists" taking young people to Israel and showing them "the suffering Palestinians" is to neutralize their affection and support of Israel. They are quick to say, "We support Israel but look at the suffering Palestinians!" The question is, "How can you love and support Israel and blame Israel for 60 years of suffering by the Palestinians caused by Arab leadership?" When you don't know the history of the problem, it's easy to reach a false conclusion.

Be certain that the Word of God has given the land to the Jewish people forever. They have the right to defend themselves from all enemies that attack them. They have the right to secure borders just like any other democracy. "I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you" Genesis 12:3.
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Jan 22, 2014 08:49:53   #
I am speaking from personal experience. Why else would working people vote against their own self interest? I retired to South Carolina. Many, many of the blue collar working people that I have met fall into one these categories. I remember when the South switched from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party. Don't you find it strange that this shift coincided exactly with Civil Rights movement? It is also true in the North. Having originally come from New York City, I was amazed at how many bigots live there. I stand by my observations. I have not taken a scientific survey, nor do I know of one dealing with this matter.
Zemirah wrote:
Your hypothesis is intellectually inadequate, and condescending.

Those individuals who are classified as "blue collar" are no more likely to mirror their parent's political beliefs than are "white collar" or those following "professional" careers.

The vast majority of all the citizens of the U.S. are at least thirty years beyond prejudice based on race, although Obama is doing everything he can to reassert it as a consideration.

The only "minority" problem conservatives have is based on those who have an illegal status, i.e., those who have illegally entered our country, and reside here illegally. It is not the amount of pigment in their skin.

There is no reason for anyone in the U.S. to be unaware that progressives/modern democrats/liberals/ wish to disarm all citizens, in violation of the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. There are hundreds of such laws in municipalities, cities, states, and the federal government; all violate the Constitution, and new ones are constantly being proposed.

The taxpayer's money is all being wasted. The middle class are poorer, the poor are poorer, the minorities are poorer, the wealthy have so many regulations in their face they are unable to develop a comprehensive five-year plan, or even a two-year plan, enabling them to hire new employees.

Conservatives have enough common sense to recognize a lie when they hear it.

Those who are said to speak for the conservatives, the right, the Republicans; men such as Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levine, Michael Savage, Glenn Beck, and women like Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham and Dana Loesch do not brainwash anyone.

Conservatives listen to them only when they reflect the beliefs that those conservatives have already determined to be true in their own minds.

When they do not reflect those beliefs, they are tuned out.

It is the left who march in lockstep with never an original thought.

They speak forth "talking points," originating from their "handlers," and possess the aura of the "walking dead."
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Jan 21, 2014 17:36:18   #
The way to protect freedom isn't gun ownership. The way to protect freedom is vigilance, education, and making your voice heard. My .357 isn't going to do a hell of a lot against a bunch of Abrams tanks, writing my representatives in state and federal government is far more important. Education is a real problem in the past few decades. Education in math, science, and technology is where all the effort is going. As a retired history and government teacher, I am very concerned that these subjects have taken a back seat. I don't know how many times students have asked me why we even need to study history and government.
jay-are wrote:
I don't think so many on the right are depending on the military to defend us. I think the right is fighting tooth and nail to protect our second amendment right to bear arms in order to defend ourselves, against the military, if need be.

The right believes in a strong military to protect the USA from foreign attackers. The idea is to protect the free nation that was founded. That is protecting the freedom, not being tyrannized by the military.
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Jan 21, 2014 13:37:54   #
I can't believe that the real truth is something that we all can believe in. All of us can't believe in the same thing! The truth is difficult to get. Some of us can't even believe in proven scientific law. To get everybody to believe in the same political and/or religious truth just ain't gonna happen. All we can ever hope for is a mutual respect for each others beliefs and opinions.
Floyd Brown wrote:
The thing is that through it all we may be seeking the same answers or the same results.

For truth is what comes from the sum total of what we all believe.

We will never find the truth if we keep bringing up how we differ or how wrong others are.

For the real truth is only some thing we can all agree on.

For as long as the sun continues to shine there is hope that we can keep searching for the right answers.
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Jan 21, 2014 09:12:07   #
It's never a bad idea to exchange ideas, no matter how many disagreeable, closed minded people are using this sight. You just never know who you may reach.
Floyd Brown wrote:
If you are here looking for the truth You are not likely to find it.

If you are looking for open minds there are some here but good luck & let me know if you find some one who don't agree with you who has an open mind.

If you wish to find out how to fix this countries problems you will find that there is no agreement as to what the problems are or agreement on what to do about them.

We have all lived in the every day world & see things different.

Our life's have been alike in more ways that they differ.

There are many here that feel things are not going well but refuse to see just where the problems are coming from.

They cling to hopes that have died & feel that what is happening will change for the better if we only had more of what they have been lead to believe is the best way.
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Jan 20, 2014 17:16:42   #
I would hope that both conservatives and progressives would both condemn this kind of unapologetic, bald, extreme racism. I've heard conservatives say that fascism is a leftist thing because both liberals and fascists are both rely on the power of the state. I never put much stock in that argument.
jonhatfield wrote:
OPP is infested with several varieties of right wing extremism--some more subtle than this sicko. How extreme and sick the whole right wing extremism OPP club is becomes demonstrated by the percent of sicko fellow travelers in their club. I keep telling them that if they want to have any credibility they need to distance themselves from the more obviously sick like the poster here and from the more stupid conspiracy fantasy story lines but I guess the club leaders realize if they did that they would be a very small club indeed.
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Jan 20, 2014 10:02:41   #
From this persons racist comments about Black people and now Jews, I have to assume he is either a nazi or a nazi sympathizer. Everything he says is a lie.Fortunately, everything he says is so transparently racist that only a fool or bigot would believe a word he says! Oh well, nobody ever said that his speech isn't protected by the First Amendment.
jonhatfield wrote:
DAANL...JUST ANOTHER RIGHTWINGNUT FOR THE CRAZY EXTREMIST OPP CLUB....WELCOME TO YOUR DREAM LA LA LAND, DAANL!
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Jan 19, 2014 08:06:23   #
YEA, Auschwitz was really a five star hotel set up for Jewish friends of Himmler and Goring.
Daanl wrote:
The money script the jews bought things with And the Theater where they put on plays AND the Musical instruments?
WHY? AND why did they have a hospital?
http://www.rense.com/general24/controversy.htm
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Jan 19, 2014 08:04:22   #
YEA, Auschwitz was really a five star hotel set up for Jewish friends of Himmler and Goring. siege heil
Daanl wrote:
The money script the jews bought things with And the Theater where they put on plays AND the Musical instruments?
WHY? AND why did they have a hospital?
http://www.rense.com/general24/controversy.htm
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Jan 18, 2014 20:44:23   #
Hey retired, I don't have any idea of what post the argument is about but calling people names is so middle school.I think you should accept the idea that others have a view pound that is different from yours, but deserves a little respect. Who knows, you may actually find something you can agree with, or better yet you may learn something!
Retired669 wrote:
Carry on trooper and praise the lord!......Your kind fear what they don't understand and being unwilling to learn there is much for you and the rest to fear...

If you would post something worth reading I'd take a look at it but the nonsense you and other repubtards post from sites even the stupid shouldn't be reading and trying to pass of as fact I have no use for nor the time to waste on that crap. I'd rather waste it here correcting you people. :mrgreen:
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Jan 18, 2014 17:31:50   #
I wouldn't worry too much about repealing the 22nd amendment. It"s next to impossible to repeal an amendment to the US Constitution.
BoJester wrote:
Was just watching the 'journalists at faux and they didn't report a damn thing about repealing the 22nd amendment.

Deb, do tell us where you get your information from
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