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Oct 24, 2021 00:35:15   #
Zemirah wrote:
When We Choose to Believe God's Word


"In the Beginning" - Bereshit, in Hebrew

"In the very beginning (Bereshit), God (Elohim) created…"(Genesis 1:1)
God is before anything in existence, prior to the start of anything that is.

In the Hebrew Bible, Elohim is plural in form, although it usually refers to the deity who is the God of Israel. It is used with a singular verb. At times it refers to deities in the plural. The word is the plural form of the word Eloah and related to El.

Commentaries on Genesis today range from the fanciful to the technical. The book of beginnings has been debated for centuries by thologians, linguists, and scientists.

There are pastors and teachers in the world of Christendom today who teach that it does not matter what we believe about the book of Genesis. It does not matter if there were really six 24-hour days in which God created, or if millions of years were required. It does not matter if there was death before Adam’s sin of disobedience, i.e., rebellion against God. It does not matter if Adam was actually a real person, or merely an allegory.

Over the past four generations, Christianity has precipitated from a large majority belief system among those who came of age during the first half of the 20th century to something less than 15 percent of young adults entering educational institutions and the workforce today.

Our youth is told that it does not matter whether they accept God's word, as He saw fit to inspire His prophets to write it.

Expert "church leaders" insist that they believe the Bible to be true, but, somehow, a literalist "interpretation" offends them in its simplicity – even when an interpretation of Genesis is not proffered, but the book of Genesis is simply read, believed, and accepted as the very word of God.

These same pastors and teachers do not have the same problem in looking forward to the New Heavens and the New Earth that God will one day provide. Whatever their eschatology, few notables of the Christian church expect to wait millions of years for the New Heavens and New Earth God has promised to provide to gradually "evolve." They fully expect that God will make these places appear in an instant, as He has prophesied that He will do.

They are also adamant in their belief that the idea of a world without death as presented in Genesis was a myth. Yet, they faithfully quote Revelation 21:4 - that there will be no more death. How can anyone expect a new place with literally no death to materialize if the recording that there was a deathless paradise at the beginning of time was just a myth?

In Revelation 22:3, Jesus revealed to the Apostle John that in the world to come there will be no existing curse upon His creation.There are pastors, professors, and church leaders today who profess they expect this to be literally true, yet do not believe there was initially an earthly paradise in Genesis 1 in which there was no curse until Adam sinned.

All these issues readily fall into place for those who choose, in faith, to believe the words of the Living Logos, as related to God's prophets by the Holy Spirit, in the book of Genesis, the book of Beginnings - to believe God’s word, the word of Elohim.


References
Hebrew Words, by Avital Snow
Paul F. Taylor, Writer on Creation Science for 35 years.
Dr. Henry M. Morris III, Creation Institute
Dr. Robert Jeffress
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Oct 7, 2021 18:32:23   #
AuntiE wrote:
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Oct 7, 2021 13:56:46   #
Three Simple Metrics To Gauge If We Are In The End Times
News Image BY TODD HAMPSON/TODDHAMPSON.COM OCTOBER 07, 2021
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Various industries use key metrics to gauge the overall health and trajectory of trends that impact their health and stability.

Financial analysts check the various alphabet indexes. Farmers keep an eye on the short and long-term weather forecasts. Movie production companies, TV networks, and streaming services perform constant data analysis related to the audience's felt needs and entertainment preferences. You get the picture. Name the industry and it is guaranteed there are a handful of key metrics they keep an eye on to forecast the future and make decisions.

Christianity is not an industry (or at least it shouldn't be), but as believers, there are a handful of key metrics to keep our eyes on in order to understand where we are (generally speaking) on God's timetable. Before I get to those metrics, I want to argue the case that God does indeed have a plan--including a specific timeline that only He knows. I dare not date-set (Matthew 24:36), but God has. Here's the proof.

In Acts chapter 1--wedged in between the question from the apostles about Jesus if he was about to restore the kingdom to Israel and just before the familiar verse where Jesus gave his followers what is known as the great commission (1:8)--Jesus said to them, "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority (Acts 1:7)."

Did you catch that? By logic, Jesus implied that the Father has times (plural) and dates (plural) set--including the day Israel's kingdom would be restored (and by extension other specific end-time dates).

The word used for times is Chronos from which we get the word chronological. It has to do with sovereignly managed sequences. The word used for dates is kairos or appointed times. It has to do with specific opportune times when things have come to a head (kairos comes from the word kara or head).

Think of Chronos as the sequential time a stalk of wheat needs to grow. Think of kairos as the moment the wheat stalk sprouts its head and is ready for picking. God is sovereignly involved in both, but God-ordained Chronos events always ultimately lead to God-ordained kairos events--when things have reached their designated end.

If you think about it, that makes total sense. God is (among other attributes) omniscient--all-knowing. He is also outside of time, for He created it. In any case, God the Father knows ALL of the key dates (rapture, return, start of the kingdom age, etc.), but we do not. We walk by faith as we wait. But notice also, that Jesus didn't dissuade them from asking such questions about the timing of eschatological events.

We find the same phenomena when the disciples asked Jesus about end-time events in what is known as the Olivet Discourse (Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21) where Jesus provided his second-longest recorded teaching--and it was all about the signs and details of the end in response to the disciple's questions!

For the apostles, they were not to worry about either, because in the very next verse (1:8) they hear Jesus's last words before he left the earth that they would be his witnesses to the world--beginning where they were (in Jerusalem) and then ultimately to the ends of the earth. (By the way, Acts 1:8 also serves as the outline for the book of Acts--beginning in Jerusalem and ending in Rome.)

This "witnessing" would take time. We call that the church age. But following the church age will be the kingdom age. The Chronos of the church age would have a logical kairos end before the kingdom age can begin. We seem to be nearing the kairos moments related to the end of the church age.

Now back to those metrics. There are a handful of key factors we can keep an eye on to gauge where we are on God's timetable. We can't know the day or hour, but Scripture tells us we can know the season (Matthew 16:3, Luke 12:56, Hebrews 10:25).

This list of metrics is by no means exhaustive but is meant to provide an easy-to-follow, clear, and compelling list that can show us how close we must be. If you have never studied eschatology but are--perhaps for the first time--realizing that there is something different about the times in which we live, then this post is for you!

Here are 3 simple, clear, compelling metrics to evaluate for yourself to see if you think we are rapidly heading for the kairos moment of the church age as things seem to be coming to a head.

1. ISRAEL

Every Old Testament prophet except for Jonah predicted that Israel would become a nation again in the end times after a long period of time when the Jewish people were scattered all over the world with no homeland. This is exactly what happened on May 14, 1948. That was a kairos moment--an appointed date. In fact, one Old Testament prophet said that Israel would be "born in a day (Isaiah 66:8)."

The prophecies that foretold Israel would be reborn all describe this super-sign event in the context of the end-times. Joel 3:1-2 even provides time clues, letting us know that when Israel would become a nation again, that would be in the same general time frame that all end-time events would take place.

Joel 3:1-2
"In those days and at that time, when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. There I will put them on trial for what they did to my inheritance, my people Israel because they scattered my people among the nations and divided up my land.

There are scores of specific details the Bible prophesied about Israel and the Jewish people both chronologically and in terms of special specific appointed moments that were prophesied in Scripture. If you have never taken the time to study this aspect of the Bible, I highly recommend it. Your faith will be strengthened and your eyes will be opened like never before.

2. GLOBALISM (vs. National Sovereignty)

When most people hear the term globalism, they usually just think of the modern interconnectivity of global trade, commerce, travel, and culture. But what I'm referring to here is the widespread, specific, and intentional efforts of the world's most powerful influencers (international bankers, political leaders, and global-scale business leaders) to bring about a one-world government.

Please fact-check me on this. Do not take my word for it. Dig into the founding documents, websites, articles, and interviews of people in (and/or connected to) these organizations and initiatives and you will see that it is an established fact that they are trying (more now than ever) to bring about a one-world global government.

It is important to note that this is not a left vs. right issue. Prominent people from both sides of the aisle are globalists.

The World Economic Forum
The Great Reset
The United Nations
The 2030 Agenda
The Council on Foreign Relations
The Trilateral Commission
The Council of the Americas
The Americas Society
The Forum of the Americas
The Institute for International Economics

This is just the tip of the iceberg. Those are what you might call open globalist groups and initiatives. There are many smaller entities that coordinate to assist the organizations and initiatives listed above. So, what does this have to do with eschatology?

Well, the Bible teaches that after the rapture the chaos will quickly lead to a one-world government (see Daniel chapters 2 and 7; Revelation chapters 13, 17) which will install a single leader whom we commonly refer to as the antichrist. Don't let the familiarity of those terms and passages breed contempt or form caricatured notions in your mind. Look around you as you research the various globalist initiatives.

In order for a one-world government to almost immediately form after the rapture--it is necessary that the plans and framework for such a thing must already be in place. And they are--along with all of the technology necessary to pull it off. These facts are out in the open for all who are willing to take a look. This explains why great lengths are currently being taken to weaken America's national sovereignty.

Our country is quickly becoming a shell of its former self. This fact is sad but true--and it lines up with Scripture as you see further below. Thankfully, our true citizenship is in Heaven. We can draw comfort from that even as our heart breaks as we watch our once strong country weaken at an unprecedented rate.

3. THE EZEKIEL 38 WAR

I'll make this section as brief as I can, but if you have never studied it or heard about it before, you'll need to take some time to process the details. Ezekiel 38 and 39 contain the most detailed account of any end-time battle. I have written about it extensively in books and articles, so I'll keep it brief and high-level for the purposes of this article. Ezekiel 38 and 39 detail an end-time battle that will take place after the people of Israel are back in their homeland having been scattered and mistreated all over the world for a long period of time. Check. That part of the prophecy is fulfilled.

After returning to their homeland and recovering from war (ie. WWII, Israel's War of Independence, The Six-Day War of 1966, the Yom Kippur War, etc.) and becoming militarily strong and financially secure (check/fulfilled), a group of nations that do not border Israel will be led by Russia, Iran, and Turkey to attack Israel specifically from her north--but Syria will not be one of them.

All of the nations listed are Islamic nations who currently want to destroy Israel--except for Russia who will be there leading the pack to take something valuable from Israel (oil, gas, natural resources, technology, et all). Russia will serve as a guard for the others, but the main partnership will be with Russia, Iran, and Turkey. This partnership is currently in place and Syria is merely a puppet state being run by those 3 nations.

On the opposite side of the equation, nobody will come to Israel's rescue (but God...and He will show up in a major way). Saudi Arabia, the Gulf states, England, and "her young lions" (possibly America) will merely protest the invasion but will not come to Israel's aid in any meaningful way.

If this attack were to occur today--this is exactly what would take place. The stage for this end-time confrontation is almost fully set. I believe it will be a power grab in the aftermath of the rapture. Even the recent horrific abandonment of the people (and billions of dollars of US military equipment) of Afghanistan further set the stage for Ezekiel 38.

The Convergence of Events

Those are 3 metrics we can keep an eye on with relative simplicity to see how close we are to the events of the tribulation--and keep in mind that the rapture will occur prior to the tribulation period. This unprecedented convergence of events (and there are dozens more) HAS NEVER BEFORE OCCURRED IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD. That should get our attention.

Before I close, I'd like you to read one more section of Scripture carefully and slowly and see if it does not describe our day exactly. These are specifically stated as end-time attributes. They have always been true in pockets and in seasons, but in our day these conditions are global and worsening--at the very same time, everything else is converging.

In 2 Timothy 3:1-5, we read, "But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God--having a form of godliness but denying its power. "

Now For Some Good News

Lastly, some good news. God's appointed times are in His hands--and so is your life. You are here at this time on purpose and for a reason. We need not fear. I've been told that the Bible says 365 times not to fear--one for each day of the year, plus an extra one in case you need a spare! We can rest assured that God will act at the very time we are ready and his perfect timing has arrived. If you do not know Christ, now is the time to receive him as your savior. Don't wait. The massive convergence of specifically prophesied end-time events is upon us. Turn to Christ today.

Originally published at ToddHampson.com - reposted with permission.
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Oct 5, 2021 22:20:11   #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
You know God's mind???

An impressive boast...

Bordering on hubris...

God made His teachings quite clear...

Even an atheist can understand them...


2 Cor. 4:4
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Oct 5, 2021 21:37:16   #
Zemirah wrote:
Thank you, Armageddun.

Because the promises of God find their true fulfillment (their 'yes,' their 'amen') in Jesus Christ, He may be called 'the Amen.' He is in the Old Testament called 'the God of truth,' 'the God of the amen' (2nd Corinthians 1:20; Revelation 3:14; cf. Isaiah 65:16). Christians acknowledge this by adding their own 'amen' (2nd Corinthians 1:20). By introducing many of His statements with ‘Amen’ (i.e. 'Verily' or 'Truly'), multiple times, Jesus guaranteed those statements to be true, certain, reliable and authoritative (Matthew 8:10; 10:15, 23,42; 11:11; 13:17).

'Amen' is a transliteration from a Hebrew word meaning 'surely, truly, certainly, trustworthily'. It was used as a formula expressing agreement to a variety of statements or announcements; for example, an oath (Numbers 5:19-22), a blessing or curse from God (Deuteronomy 27:11-26; Jeremiah 11:5), an announcement (1st Kings 1:36), a prophecy (Jeremiah 28:6), an expression of praise (1st Chronicles 16:36; Psalm 41:13; Jude 24-25), a prayer (1st Corinthians 14:16), a statement (Revelation 1:7) or a promise (Revelation 22:20).
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Oct 2, 2021 22:42:18   #
Zemirah wrote:
Your thesis is faulty. "How could have...?"

This question is so completely elementary, most six year olds with basic Sunday School attendance could answer it.


Psalm 135:6 "The LORD does all that pleases Him in the heavens and on the earth, in the seas and in all their depths."

Psalm 115:3 "Our God is in heaven; He does as He pleases."

Daniel 4:35 "All the peoples of the earth are counted as nothing, and He does as He pleases with the army of heaven and the peoples of the earth. There is no one who can restrain His hand or say to Him, 'What have You done?'"

1. The eternal Son, the Word of God/the Living Logos (who often appeared to man pre-incarnate throughout the Old Testament, as the Angel of the Lord), who took on human form, and was named Yeshua/Jesus, wasn't formed as a God. The eternal Son of God, 2nd in the eternal Triune Godhead of Creation, who is spirit is not "a" God, He is God. He has always been God. He will always be God.

2. Jesus is the name given to the fully human embryo miraculously formed by God's will, in the womb of the Jewish virgin maid named Mary, without a human father. He was fully God, He was born fully Man and fully God, still is to this day, and so He will always be. In simplest terms, the hypostatic union references Jesus Christ as both God and man, fully divine and fully human.

3. The second person of the Trinity, the Son of God, the pre-incarnate Jesus, is mentioned throughout the Old Testament. His existence should come as no surprise to anyone with the faith to take God at His Word, anyone who isn't too puffed up in his own fleshly finite mind to accept that an all powerful Creator God is free to do as He pleases.

4. The first time the second person of the trinity is mentioned is at the very beginning of the Bible in the creation story, in Genesis 1:3. This is clearly referring to the Word of God, who is God's Son as explained by John 1-4,14,18. This shows that the first thing the Son did was be the Father's vehicle of creation and life. This was confirmed again in Colossians 1:16, 1st Corinthians 8:6, and Romans 11:36.

5. As the Word of God and the mediator between the Father and creation, the Son's second role in the world was as the Father's messenger. Thus, he was known as the Angel of the Lord (the word Angel means messenger). He came to Abraham to make his covenant with him (Genesis 15:1-6). In Genesis 16:7-12, he appeared to Hagar as she was fleeing and told her to Go back. He also told her that she was pregnant and should name her son Ishmael. He appeared to Abraham again in Genesis 22 to test him by telling him to sacrifice his only son, Isaac, and then to stop him from doing so. Genesis 32, then explains that Jacob wrestled with a "Man" (verse 24) who identified Himself as God (verse 28). Jacob said, "I have seen God face to face..." (verse 30). Because John 1:18 instructs us that no one has been able to see God the Father, because He is spirit, Jacob is talking about the Son in a pre-incarnate appearance. This is confirmed in Hosea 12:3-5 that He with whom Jacob wrestled was "the Angel" who is also the "the Lord, the God of hosts."

He appeared to the prophet Balaam and gave him orders (Numbers 22:22-35). He appeared to all of Israel to tell them to stop worshiping idols (Judges 2:1-4). He instructed Gideon to deliver Israel from the Midianites (Judges 6). He prophesied the birth of Samson and sent up in a flame of the altar. (Judges 13). In both of those last two instances, Gideon, as well as Maboah and his wife thought they would die from seeing God after the Angel of the Lord came to them, but they did not. He called Sameul as a boy (1 Samuel 3) as spoke to him throughout his life (1 Samuel 15:10-11,23). He spoke to Isaiah in Isaiah 6:1, which is confirmed to be pre-incarnate Jesus in John 12:41 and Philippians 2:5-8. He spoke to Malachi (Malachi 3:1), telling him he was sending His Son, who is his messenger (Angel). He spoke to Zechariah (Zechariah 1 and 3), where he refers to the Word of the Lord, the Angel of the Lord, the Lord of Hosts, and "the Branch" interchangeably. Jesus is referred to as the branch, shoot, or root of Jesse throughout scripture (John 15:1-8, Romans 15:12, Revelation 5:5). He also spoke to other prophets, such as Nathan (2 Samuel 7:4), David (2 Samuel 22:1-3, 1 Chronicles 21:18), Gad (2 Samuel 24:11), Solomon (1 Kings 6:11), and Elijah (1 Kings 19:3-5).

Further evidence that the Angel of the Lord was the pre-incarnate Jesus is the fact that the Angel ceased to appear after Jesus became incarnate in the flesh. At that point in time, the Angel Gabriel took over the responsibility of serving as God's chief messenger.

Psalm 33:8-12
"Let all the earth fear the LORD; let all the people of the world revere Him.
For He spoke, and it came to be; He commanded, and it stood firm.
The LORD frustrates the plans of the nations; He thwarts the devices of the peoples.
The counsel of the LORD stands forever, the purposes of His heart to all generations.
Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD, the people He has chosen as His inheritance!"
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Amen and Amen
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Oct 2, 2021 00:41:23   #
Whitlock: Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, and the Super Bowl halftime show will be a celebration of lyrical porn and the satanic race religion
OP-ED
JASON WHITLOCKOctober 01, 2021


Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg are the Hugh Hefner and Larry Flynt of rap music. They're pornographers, all four of them. Hefner and Flynt dominated the visual form of pornography. Dre and Snoop earned fame and fortune dominating lyrical pornography.

You'll read that as a harsh rebuke of the Four Horsemen of Smut. But I am not a hypocrite.

I wrote for Playboy magazine. In June 2008, my name appeared on its cover alongside a lovely photo of a model, Jayde Nicole. Years ago, I attended two parties at Hefner's mansion. I've socialized with women who graced the magazine's pages.

Dr. Dre is the only celebrity who has made me feel starstruck. His mastery of music and beat amazes me. In the 1990s, I shook his hand at a Mike Tyson fight and mumbled a few words signifying astonishment and admiration.



I don't have a problem with Dre, Snoop, Hef, or Flynt. At one time, I adored and supported their work. Even today, in all honesty, I'd have to categorize their art as an occasional guilty pleasure, sins of solitude and seclusion.

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I do have a problem with Dre and Snoop performing at halftime of the Super Bowl. Pornography and pornographers are unworthy of America's biggest stage.

Yesterday, the NFL announced that Dre, Snoop, Eminem, Kendrick Lamar, and R&B singer Mary J. Blige will perform at halftime of Super Bowl LVI. The announcement was greeted as a historic moment of progress, a triumphant landmark in black culture. The country's strongest pop culture force — the NFL, the No. 1 TV show on five different networks — wrapped its arms around commercial hip-hop music. The conservative and previously traditional NFL embraced the musical genre that defines the liberal NBA.

Free at last, free at last, thank Sodom and Gomorrah, the NFL will let lyrical pornography blast!

We can only hope that censors won't stop Dre, Snoop, Slim Shady, and Kendrick from repeatedly shouting n***a, bitch, hoe, and motherf***a in front of 100 million Americans. Or maybe a Black Lives Matter flag will fly as Dre brags about never hesitating to put a n***a on his back as gunfire blares in the background.

This is not progress. This is not a great moment in American history, NFL history, or black history. The Super Bowl halftime will be a satanic ritual, a celebration of America's moral decay.

I'm not saying that as an outsider, as someone with a severe disdain for hip-hop music. I'm saying it as an insider. I'm saying it because I know the music quite well. I own virtually every song Dr. Dre ever produced. I know Snoop's catalog of music nearly as well. The same goes for Eminem. It's a musical collection of old Playboy and Hustler magazines.

It's hedonism, materialism, immorality, and violence in rhyme form set to music. It's the soundtrack for a movie about Babylon.

How did this happen? How did a country founded in Judeo-Christian values come to legitimize pornography and allow pornographers to sit atop our cultural throne?

Hefner and Flynt never occupied the space Dre, Snoop, and Jay Z share. Despite their wealth, Hefner and Flynt remained outsiders. They weren't public friends with presidents (Jay Z and Barack Obama). They weren't center stage at major mainstream cultural events. They were kept in their lane. They were pornographers, guilty pleasures to be experienced in the shadows.

Hefner and Flynt did not have the right complexion for the connection white liberals have afforded black rappers.

The left has cleverly established race as America's new religion of choice, replacing Christianity. Black is the highest denomination of the left's race religion. Their doctrine argues that bowing to blackness is a righteous and responsible response to America's history of racism.

Anything framed as black cannot be chastised, criticized, or shunned. To do so would be blasphemous and racist. Through hip-hop, pornography has been wrapped in black packaging. Through hip-hop, a self-destructive culture has been wrapped in black packaging.

Music that promotes the degradation and exploitation of black people has been framed as the salvation and glorification of black people.

No one can safely challenge this despicable orthodoxy. I watched a white female host on the NFL Network celebrate alongside Michael Irvin the announcement that Dre and Snoop would host the Pepsi Super Bowl Halftime.

Has she heard Snoop rap that "bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks/lick on these nuts and suck the dick"? Does she remember Dre's lyrics on the N.W.A. song "One Less Bitch"?

We're in the MeToo era and everyone is going to catch amnesia about Dr. Dre's violent assault on Dee Barnes in the 1990s?

That's the power of the race religion. Dr. Dre is black. His history of violence toward women is irrelevant. I'm all about forgiveness and people moving past their mistakes. But Dre's 2015 album "Compton" featured Eminem rapping about making the women he rapes orgasm.


The race religion is killing America. The Alphabet Mafia — BLM-LGBTQ-CRT — has wrapped every issue in black packaging. Earlier this week, Playboy magazine promoted a bunny outfit using a young black man as the model. The gay and transgender issues have been framed as a black issues.

We're being used to promote causes that defy God and the principles taught in the Bible.

But you go right ahead and celebrate Dre and Snoop performing at halftime of the Super Bowl. Keep being a useful idiot in the race religion.

Black power!
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Sep 28, 2021 15:37:16   #
Zemirah wrote:
Your thesis is faulty. "How could have...?"

This question is so completely elementary, most six year olds with basic Sunday School attendance could answer it.


Psalm 135:6 "The LORD does all that pleases Him in the heavens and on the earth, in the seas and in all their depths."

Psalm 115:3 "Our God is in heaven; He does as He pleases."

Daniel 4:35 "All the peoples of the earth are counted as nothing, and He does as He pleases with the army of heaven and the peoples of the earth. There is no one who can restrain His hand or say to Him, 'What have You done?'"

1. The eternal Son, the Word of God/the Living Logos (who often appeared to man pre-incarnate throughout the Old Testament, as the Angel of the Lord), who took on human form, and was named Yeshua/Jesus, wasn't formed as a God. The eternal Son of God, 2nd in the eternal Triune Godhead of Creation, who is spirit is not "a" God, He is God. He has always been God. He will always be God.

2. Jesus is the name given to the fully human embryo miraculously formed by God's will, in the womb of the Jewish virgin maid named Mary, without a human father. He was fully God, He was born fully Man and fully God, still is to this day, and so He will always be. In simplest terms, the hypostatic union references Jesus Christ as both God and man, fully divine and fully human.

3. The second person of the Trinity, the Son of God, the pre-incarnate Jesus, is mentioned throughout the Old Testament. His existence should come as no surprise to anyone with the faith to take God at His Word, anyone who isn't too puffed up in his own fleshly finite mind to accept that an all powerful Creator God is free to do as He pleases.

4. The first time the second person of the trinity is mentioned is at the very beginning of the Bible in the creation story, in Genesis 1:3. This is clearly referring to the Word of God, who is God's Son as explained by John 1-4,14,18. This shows that the first thing the Son did was be the Father's vehicle of creation and life. This was confirmed again in Colossians 1:16, 1st Corinthians 8:6, and Romans 11:36.

5. As the Word of God and the mediator between the Father and creation, the Son's second role in the world was as the Father's messenger. Thus, he was known as the Angel of the Lord (the word Angel means messenger). He came to Abraham to make his covenant with him (Genesis 15:1-6). In Genesis 16:7-12, he appeared to Hagar as she was fleeing and told her to Go back. He also told her that she was pregnant and should name her son Ishmael. He appeared to Abraham again in Genesis 22 to test him by telling him to sacrifice his only son, Isaac, and then to stop him from doing so. Genesis 32, then explains that Jacob wrestled with a "Man" (verse 24) who identified Himself as God (verse 28). Jacob said, "I have seen God face to face..." (verse 30). Because John 1:18 instructs us that no one has been able to see God the Father, because He is spirit, Jacob is talking about the Son in a pre-incarnate appearance. This is confirmed in Hosea 12:3-5 that He with whom Jacob wrestled was "the Angel" who is also the "the Lord, the God of hosts."

He appeared to the prophet Balaam and gave him orders (Numbers 22:22-35). He appeared to all of Israel to tell them to stop worshiping idols (Judges 2:1-4). He instructed Gideon to deliver Israel from the Midianites (Judges 6). He prophesied the birth of Samson and sent up in a flame of the altar. (Judges 13). In both of those last two instances, Gideon, as well as Maboah and his wife thought they would die from seeing God after the Angel of the Lord came to them, but they did not. He called Sameul as a boy (1 Samuel 3) as spoke to him throughout his life (1 Samuel 15:10-11,23). He spoke to Isaiah in Isaiah 6:1, which is confirmed to be pre-incarnate Jesus in John 12:41 and Philippians 2:5-8. He spoke to Malachi (Malachi 3:1), telling him he was sending His Son, who is his messenger (Angel). He spoke to Zechariah (Zechariah 1 and 3), where he refers to the Word of the Lord, the Angel of the Lord, the Lord of Hosts, and "the Branch" interchangeably. Jesus is referred to as the branch, shoot, or root of Jesse throughout scripture (John 15:1-8, Romans 15:12, Revelation 5:5). He also spoke to other prophets, such as Nathan (2 Samuel 7:4), David (2 Samuel 22:1-3, 1 Chronicles 21:18), Gad (2 Samuel 24:11), Solomon (1 Kings 6:11), and Elijah (1 Kings 19:3-5).

Further evidence that the Angel of the Lord was the pre-incarnate Jesus is the fact that the Angel ceased to appear after Jesus became incarnate in the flesh. At that point in time, the Angel Gabriel took over the responsibility of serving as God's chief messenger.

Psalm 33:8-12
"Let all the earth fear the LORD; let all the people of the world revere Him.
For He spoke, and it came to be; He commanded, and it stood firm.
The LORD frustrates the plans of the nations; He thwarts the devices of the peoples.
The counsel of the LORD stands forever, the purposes of His heart to all generations.
Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD, the people He has chosen as His inheritance!"
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Sep 7, 2021 18:40:52   #
Thanks be unto God for His indescribable gift. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life.
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Aug 22, 2021 22:33:45   #
Zemirah wrote:
Your spiritual wisdom is indisputable, TexaCan,

"Then Jesus, calling out with a loud voice, said, 'Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.' When he had said this, he breathed his last" (Luke 23:46).

He breathed His last physical human breath, however God - Who is immortal Spirit, cannot die, but united with Jesus' glorified resurrection body.

Often overlooked or ignored is the Scriptural explanation of Jesus contained in the doctrine of the hypostatic union. Jesus has two natures: God and man. The hypostatic union is the personal union of Jesus's two natures:

"The hypostatic union is the mysterious joining of the divine and the human in the one person of Jesus." Jesus has two complete natures: one fully human and one fully divine. In other words, Jesus, who was and is fully God, who is Spirit, chose to be born of a woman, became human, and thus, both God and man, simultaneously.

Jesus has all of the characteristics that are true of a person, and all of the characteristics that are true of a divine being.

This is why some scriptures describe His being divine and others point to His being a man. Both are equally true.

Below is a chart from carm.org illustrating the two natures of Jesus, Who is one person, - as derived from scripture.


GOD

He is worshiped (Matt. 2:2, 11; 14:33; 28:9)
He is prayed to (Acts 7:59; 1 Cor. 1:1-2)
He was called God (John 20:28; Heb. 1:8)
He was called Son of God (Mark 1:1)
He is sinless (1 Pet. 2:22; Heb. 4:15)
He knew all things (John 21:17)
He gives eternal life (John 10:28)
The fullness of deity dwells in Him (Col. 2:9)

+ MAN

He worshiped the Father (John 17)
He prayed to the Father (John 17:1)
He was called man (Mark 15:39; John 19:5).
He was called Son of Man (John 9:35-37)
He was tempted (Matt. 4:1)
He grew in wisdom (Luke 2:52)
He died (Rom. 5:8)
He has a body of flesh and bones (Luke 24:39)

This is not a man-made doctrine. It is a doctrine derived from God’s word.
It is true that God cannot die. It is also true that man can die. But Jesus has two natures – not one.
It was the human nature of Jesus that died on the cross – Never the divine, - for God is immortal Spirit.

He is both God and man in one person and because He was sinless, His sacrifice is sufficient to cover the sins of the world... all who choose to believe, accept His sacrificial death on their behave, repent, and follow Him.

Praise His Holy Name, Yeshua ha Mashiach, Jesus Christ/Messiah.
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Amen and Amen. Without faith, it is impossible to please God. So many think of God in human terms but the Bible says with God nothing shall be impossible.
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BigMike wrote:
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Michael Rich wrote:
The Cross is a Christian idol adopted from paganism. People wear it around their necks as a holy trinket.

They hang it on a wall to be recognized as Christian.

If Jesus would have been electrocuted instead of being hanged on a stake, would people now be wearing little electric chairs as symbols of faith?


Some people swallow a camel and gag on a gnat. Stop majoring on the minors.
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