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Jun 19, 2015 14:57:25   #
ldsuttonjr wrote:
glaucon: Your out of your padded cell again! Must have gotten a good handler check for your trolling as well?


Our Glaucon who wasn't Plato's star student learned little from his namesake. Plato's philosophies were highly regarded by western civilization and formed a basis for western governments for hundreds of years.
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Jun 19, 2015 14:44:43   #
CDM wrote:
Yankee, he is accurate; it's 99% of the scientists who have been paid off...He simply forgot the qualifier...


I just can't believe those numbers. Sounds like they corrupted or bought off an inordinate percentage of what seemed to be honest scientist. That's kind of like all those Cleveland precincts that cast not one vote for Romney, statistically impossible.
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Jun 19, 2015 14:34:59   #
Bad Bob wrote:
How did they "frauded the election".....? :lol:


Here's how: http://dailysignal.com/2015/05/22/ydont-believe-voter-fraud-happens-heres-some-examples/?utm_source=heritagefoundation&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=dailydigest&mkt_tok=3RkMMJWWfF9wsRojsqTBZKXonjHpfsX56%2B8pUKO0lMI%2F0ER3fOvrPUfGjI4JScFkI%2BSLDwEYGJlv6SgFQrLBMa1ozrgOWxU%3D

Here's more: http://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/2015/pdf/VoterFraudCases-Merged-3-2.pdf

Even more: http://voterfraud2012.com/

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/11/04/voter_fraud_and_voter_id_124553.html
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Jun 19, 2015 12:51:47   #
straightUp wrote:
mmm... I don't think you know what I mean. You just reverted back to whatever you were doing before. What software are you using? Standard browser should give you a "Quote Reply" button. If you're responding to a post you should click on that. You can click on "Reply" and write your response in quote/reply format inside that if you want, and we can read it, but we can't respond... the servers cut most of your stuff out when they send us the reply page. Just saying.

So other than that... I'll just disagree with everything else I see in your reply. I mean seriously, when I look at history and all the various forms of economic and political theory that you seem to be lumping together, I see a completely different picture. Think of the different theories or ideologies as variations of a theme, because that is what they are. Related but not exactly alike.

As for your recommendations... back of the line. Sorry. I mean, I'll add it to my list - I'm always interested in what people are reading but yeah - back of the line. See, I remember going through this with you before. I've spent more than enough time following your recommendations and reading (What have you read that I recommended that was bullshit?) the clever rhetoric that either has you fooled or you're just spreading the bullshit.

No hard feelings, just not my cup of tea. Ditto!
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Actually they don't cut it out. When you go to quote/reply to respond my color print just turns to black print. There are a few others who use color print also and that's how the come to me when I respond quote/reply.
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Jun 19, 2015 12:30:40   #
permafrost wrote:
This stuff was pushed in Obama first election. Old trash and debunked 8 years ago..

Can you check this out and see if it is true?

Thank you!

I have always wondered why NO ONE ever came forward from Obama’s past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend, etc. NO ONE, not one person has ever come forward from his past. VERY VERY STRANGE.
This should really be a cause for great concern.
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We’re not sure why, but this false claim has been forwarded widely in recent days, judging by the number of queries we’ve received.

Barack Obama was a transfer student from California’s Occidental College when he came to Columbia University in 1981 as a 20-year-old junior. More than 20,000 students currently attend Columbia. The enrollment in the early ’80s might have been lower, but not everybody would have met or remembered Obama. And it’s absolutely untrue that "not one person has ever come forward" from his years there, or that he is "the man who wasn’t there."

Columbia University proudly claims Obama as a 1983 graduate. The university magazine Columbia College Today profiled him as far back as 2005, after he was elected to the U.S. Senate.

Last year, the New York Times wrote about Phil Boerner, who roomed with the future president during his first year at Columbia. The article included excerpts from the Columbia student directory, showing Obama living during his junior year at 142 West 109th Street near Columbia’s campus in New York City, and during his senior year at 339 East 94th Street. Boerner recalled that Obama sometimes wrapped himself in a sleeping bag to keep warm in the chilly apartment they shared, and that some nights he would cook chicken curry for dinner.

In an article published in Columbia College Today, Boerner also wrote:

Boerner: I remember often eating breakfast with Barack at Tom’s Restaurant on Broadway. Occasionally we went to The West End for beers. We enjoyed exploring museums such as the Guggenheim, the Met and the American Museum of Natural History, and browsing in bookstores such as the Strand and the Barnes & Noble opposite Columbia. We both liked taking long walks down Broadway on a Sunday afternoon, and listening to the silence of Central Park after a big snow. I also remember jogging the loop around Central Park with Barack.

Obama even published an article in a school magazine called the Sundial. A reporter for the conservative Human Events magazine recently called it "a wholesale endorsement of all sorts of leftist claptrap fashionable at the time." The full article is available on the Web site of Politico.com. It was published in the issue dated March 10, 1983.

The e-mail incorrectly claims that ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos was a classmate of Obama. They were both students at Columbia for about one academic year, but Stephanopoulos was a year ahead. Obama received his degree in 1983, while Stephanopoulos received his a year earlier, according to a university press release. Neither of them were "class of 1984," as the message incorrectly claims.

The message recycles — and exaggerates to the point of falsification — some attacks that were raised in the heat of the 2008 presidential campaign. The claim that Fox News could not find any classmates who remembered Obama, for example, was published in a Sept. 11, 2008, Wall Street Journal editorial, which attacked then-candidate Obama for not releasing more information about his two years at the university. The message also makes much of Wayne Allyn Root’s statement in an interview that he didn’t know anybody who remembered Obama at Columbia. That appeared Sept. 5, 2008, in Reason magazine. What the message fails to mention is that Root was at the time a candidate for vice president on the Libertarian ticket. Root was stating that "[a] vote for Obama is four years of Karl Marx," but even Root stopped short of claiming that Obama was not actually a student at Columbia.

–Brooks Jackson

One may want to check out the veracity of ones source! http://24ahead.com/brooks-jackson-factcheck-misleads-about-illegal-aliens-and-o

Update, Feb. 23: After we published this item, we received an e-mail from a woman who says she knew Obama when he was at Columbia. You can read her recollection of playing soccer with Obama on campus in our FactCheck Mailbag.

Correction, March 16: We originally used a quote from Phil Boerner, Obama’s roommate at Columbia, that referred to their time together at Occidental College. We have changed that quote to another of Boerner’s recollections about their time at Columbia.
Sources

"Barack Obama ’83 Becomes First College Alumnus To Win Presidency." Columbia University. 5 Nov 2008.

Boss-Bicak, Shira. "Barack Obama ’93: Is He the New Face of The Democratic Party?" Columbia College Today. Jan 2005.

Cowan, Allison Leigh. "Recollections of Obama’s Ex-Roommate." New York Times "City Room" Blog. 20 Jan 2009, accessed 14 Feb 2010.

Boerner, Phil. "Barack Obama ’83, My Columbia College Roommate." Columbia College Today. Jan/Feb 2009.

"Obama’s Lost Years." Editorial. Wall Street Journal. 11 Sep 2008.

Welch, Matt. "Wayne Allyn Root’s Million-Dollar Challenge." Reason Magazine. 5 Sep 2008.

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Tags: chain emails and columbia university
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Jun 19, 2015 12:11:19   #
Haughty Lib wrote:
The climate change were experiencing now does have human causation according to 99% of qualified inbiased scientific experts. Your 99% number is a bit high I believe.

Even if you were to suppose that as much as 25% of them were biased or incompetent, which is HIGHLY unlikely, we'd still be left with 74% consensus. I don't believe 74% either.

Human causation of climate,change is real. Period, Climate change is real and always has been since the earth developed an atmosphere. The human causation theory is based on conjecture at best and out right lies at worst. These so called weather scientist are willing to alter or change facts to fit their scenario to keep the research funds flowing. My opinion is they are disingenuous and are padding their own pockets. and you'd have to be a wacky and unintelligent freak to believe otherwise. One doesn't have to be a wacky and unintelligent freak to believe otherwise, why the Ad hominem attack on those with whom you disagree? A volcano in 24 hrs. puts more greenhouse gases in the air than we do in probably 25 years or maybe more or less.
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Jun 19, 2015 00:30:51   #
straightUp wrote:
'looks like you figured out the quote/reply process :) I always use the quote/reply

I just wanted to ask... What makes you think Marxism even has a chance in this country? Thanks to the Progressive movement, Marxism hasn't seen any real popularity in this country since the 20's. Marxism has been here and world wide in many forms, in its ancient form it was socialism. Socialism, liberalism (not classic liberalism), Progressiveism, Communism, all forms of the socialism virus, have done damage to governments for thousands of years. They weren't always called the same but the ideology was pretty much similar. Marxism is the antithesis of capitalism which is defined by Encarta as “an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and distribution of goods, characterized by a free competitive market and motivation by profit.” Marxism is the system of socialism of which the dominant feature is public ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange.

http://www.allaboutphilosophy.org/what-is-marxism-faq.htm

Also: http://cpusa.org/

And thanks to JW: http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2007/07/the-progressive-movement-and-the-transformation-of-american-politics

Maybe I should be asking you what you think Marxism is. Marxism is kind of like pornography, "one kind of knows it when one sees it", to paraphrase Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart whose quote may not be his own.Here is another interesting link on Marxism/communism:

http://www.criminalgovernment.com/docs/planks.html

You may also want to read The Law by Frederic Bastiat also an interesting read, I would further recommend The 5000 Year Leap by Cleon Skousen both are worth the time to read. Without spending years studying Socialism and Marxism I feel I have a fair handle on the subject, but I am not a scholar by a long shot.
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Jun 18, 2015 22:14:56   #
Anigav6969 wrote:
Yankee clipper....

You keep writing within my post....it's difficult to do Quote/Reply......that being said: first, I think there is ZERO chance of this country becoming a Marxist country....this is total paranoia on your part and others that believe the same... I didn't say I thought the country was becoming a Marxist country, I said "It could go either way at this point". I am not sure you know the differences in the many "isms". total nonsense

Why would I send you the reasons in a private message ? Grief ? I figured if you listed out your reasons which I was interested in seeing, someone might attack you for it, that is all. Lol....what planet are you on ?.....the concerns that many n the left have with our economy is obvious... I understand, not enough money to spend on boondogles the only advantage Republicans have over Marxist/democrats is Repubs spend slightly less. we live in an Oligarchy. You really mean a Plutocracy rather than an Oligarchy, however, they are both similar in the fact that it is the few ruling the many. This has already been proven. Only the wealthiest people have any influence on policy in this country...I feel this started with Reagan.... The problem goes clear back to the beginning of our Republic.no President, including Obama, has been able to ( or has not wanted to) I agree,"has not wanted to" do anything about this.....the answer to me is simple...get the money out of politics.. I am open to getting the money out, but how do you propose to do it? I have no idea at this time.

The only people I see ruining this country....and holding back this country...is the conservative, religious right....they've always tried to hold back the country....thankfully, the country moves on without them The last paragraph is way over the top and even you know that.

Yes, I saw that you stated it can go either way.....I'll say again, there is ZERO chance of this country becoming Marxist


No, I meant Oligarchy

Good point on not knowing what to do to trying to get the money out of politics....there are some movements though...the good thing, is it doesn't matter if the movement is from the right or left....if it helps get the money out, I'm for it.....here's just one : www.wolf-pac.com
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I'll check out your link. It looks interesting.
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Jun 18, 2015 21:47:59   #
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Conservatives will never be cleansed of their need to instill fear. Whether it be Marxists, immigrants or a black president. Their cynical and decrepit minds can find an enemy under every bed. And as a free society we can no longer allow them to make laws or policies based on their nightmares!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/22/the-conservative-paranoid-mind.html


Whose ass are you packing, you own? You sure the Hell aren't packing anyone else's other than like minded lefties!
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Jun 18, 2015 21:11:32   #
Anigav6969 wrote:
Yankee clipper....

You keep writing within my post....it's difficult to do Quote/Reply......that being said: first, I think there is ZERO chance of this country becoming a Marxist country....this is total paranoia on your part and others that believe the same... I didn't say I thought the country was becoming a Marxist country, I said "It could go either way at this point". I am not sure you know the differences in the many "isms". total nonsense

Why would I send you the reasons in a private message ? Grief ? I figured if you listed out your reasons which I was interested in seeing, someone might attack you for it, that is all. Lol....what planet are you on ?.....the concerns that many n the left have with our economy is obvious... I understand, not enough money to spend on boondogles the only advantage Republicans have over Marxist/democrats is Repubs spend slightly less. we live in an Oligarchy. You really mean a Plutocracy rather than an Oligarchy, however, they are both similar in the fact that it is the few ruling the many. This has already been proven. Only the wealthiest people have any influence on policy in this country...I feel this started with Reagan.... The problem goes clear back to the beginning of our Republic.no President, including Obama, has been able to ( or has not wanted to) I agree,"has not wanted to" do anything about this.....the answer to me is simple...get the money out of politics.. I am open to getting the money out, but how do you propose to do it? I have no idea at this time.

The only people I see ruining this country....and holding back this country...is the conservative, religious right....they've always tried to hold back the country....thankfully, the country moves on without them The last paragraph is way over the top and even you know that.
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Jun 17, 2015 23:54:27   #
Jerry A. wrote:
Cadillac: The biggest fraud was President George W. Bush, Jr. elected President in 2008, by 5 Republican Justices majority ruling of our U.S. Supreme Court after the frauds in the Florida election. Republicans right wing nuts are greedy, anti-social, and prejudice who only care about their own money and tax benefits.


Jerry A., If I remember correctly a recount by a news organization or two showed that Bush did carry Florida. A. Gore conceded and then changed his mind, which started a situation that snowballed into an election crisis. The Florida Supreme Court made up of (I think) all Marxist/democrats got involved and changed the rules to favor A. Gore rather than staying neutral in their rulings. That in turn caused SCOTUS to get involved and rule against the Florida Supreme Court and no one was happy.

I think Bush actually won as the later recount showed, but it was not a satisfying result for anyone. At least Bush and the Republicans didn't cheat to gain advantage as democrats always do. Proof of that is the fact you are still whining about it. For what it's worth I did not like Bush and was not a supporter, but I disliked Gore even worse.

Basically your whole response is BS.
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Jun 17, 2015 23:16:43   #
Cool Breeze wrote:
Let's see some of it. In your humble opinion of course.


I'm not going to go back and look for stuff I read on here that was potty mouthed and over the top by the many leftist commenters on here. Also note, all of us are guilty for different reasons across this site. I just think the left is worse more often. I know I work hard to avoid doing so, but I am as guilty as many on here. If I come across some in the future I will copy it too you.
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Jun 17, 2015 11:57:23   #
Cool Breeze wrote:
Leftist Pottymouth? Got any evidence?


There's plenty, one doesn't have to look too hard
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Jun 17, 2015 11:55:29   #


Interesting
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Jun 17, 2015 11:22:13   #
Anigav6969 wrote:
Do I Think there are millions of insane people in this Country ?? Absolutely ! I don't think there are millions on insane people, but I think it is possible they number in the 100s of thousands. I do however think there are many, many more that are unstable at best and it will not take too much to push them over the edge and they represent all persuasions of beliefs and ideologies. Of course I cannot prove you wrong that one day the U.S. Will be a Marxist Country... Of course, I didn't expect you to be able to prove me wrong. I will say this to you, right now it looks like a wash and we could go either way. Even that's scary to me. it just seems a paranoid leap.... I don't think paranoid it the right word and I can't come up with it right now. Let's just say there are plenty of rational conservatives that are very wary of our political and financial welfare at this point in time. e and expose our differences .....most of us are concerned, but for different reasons, and believe the causes of most of the problems of this country stem from very different things.... Why don't you list those different reasons as you see them. If you don't want to do it here, send it to me by the private message function of this site. That might save you some grief at this point in time.I'll send you back some sources which you can study and learn or discard, your choice. it's actually a good question and could make for an interesting thread... I believe you could be right, but I am afraid it would not take long before emotions take over and the thread would turn irrational......I always get a kick out of some people here that just for the sake of simplifying a situation , they just scream Marxist...and something about Alinsky ....who, I never even heard of before I got to this site.. There's a reason why many, me included, allude to Marxism, and it's not just paranoia at work. You need to read a whole lot more on political ideologies and tactics, you seem a lot naive to me. A substantial number of conservatives on this site are well read on issues of the day and of the subversive ideologies that are constantly nibbling around the edges trying to destroy our religion, our Constitution, and eventually our nation. Look at the 1950's and 1960's Soviet Union, that's the communist ultimate goal. The New World Order has been around to centuries and it too has a goal which in practice would not be all that different from the old Soviet Union. Both systems were and are an elitist run utopian plutocracy type of dictatorship whose average citizens will live an equally shared life of misery and subsistence survival.
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