"complications" is much to vague for me since autism has been bandied about with equally vague disclaimers. "Complications" can be anything from being cranky and/or low fever all the way up to something serious. Nobody trusts government scientists anymore..politicians are ...oh well!

The news reported this AM that the President stated the media is at fault for polarizing the nation...so which is it pal? Conservatives or the loopy left media?

It's interesting that this very evening Bill Maher discussed this very subject on TV and concluded that people have no trust in pharmaceutical companies and science in protecting children from measles without any impairment to their children's health now and at some future date as a result of vaccines which is what we have been discussing.

"Obviously!"

Just because something is published in he USA does not make it correct either morally or statistically. Your perspective is off, perhaps you never traveled much thruout the States. In any event there is no conversation that can be had with you. Perhaps being invited to a measles party in california or elsewhere in the USA might give you pause to wonder why parents would prefer measles to a vaccine since getting the measles would act as a vaccine and the chance that the vaccine may be toxic is alleved from the minds of concerned parents.

First. of all I am not interested in WORLD statistics and neither are you despite your being a liberal (you live here not admist the canopy). they have no relevance to me only the statistics in the USA is of interest. Second. I do not know the source of the world statistics that you quote and I question their authenticity and third. I expect high numbers of deaths from the 3rd and 4th level countries where Darwin is functioning in its purest form of fittest surviving with natural numbers of deaths are anticipated and expected. I am interested in USA statistics and if you can quote those stats to me and their source I might find them relevant. So much for "best buys" in public health which is not a buy anywhere other than Europe and the USA.

people are more concerned about the vaccine itself and not measles and would prefer their children become exposed to measles without the contents of the vials that contain the measles vaccine....This way they are assured of measles for which they are not alarmed and relieved of the witches brew that constitute the vaccine.

Parents out on the west coast are having measles parties for their kids sothat one infected child can spread the miseales to everyone present in lieu of having to run the risk that the vaccine could do harm while the disease is a rite of passage......!

Hot off the presses:http://www.WND.com/2015/02/the-real-culprit-in-measles-outbreak/#bqX77K

Thank you Auntie. The truth will out. Most parents would not mind vaccinating their children were it not for the fact that an UNKNOWN NUMBER of children will suffer adverse reactions leading to death and serious illnesses as a result of vaccinations. The question arises "WILL IT BE MY CHILD?" that suffers death or physical adversity of one sort or another?? Insofar as illegal alien children are concerned neither their parents nor their native governments nor the White House could care less what diseases these children bring with them and nobody knows anything about their condition but rush them into well fed, well washed well cared for American born and bred children classrooms where they cause harm as a result of their abandonded condition.

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Alicia Moonbattery explains why Liberalism is a mental disorder...Do you have the website written by a Psychiatrist?

How do you know John what "Nice, normal, reasonable Americans think??" It all comes down to illegal aliens came and soon after the measles epidemic broke out 2 hours from the border and spread accordingly. You have no right to presuppose what Americans would think. You sir, along with your fellow ladies in waiting. appear to meet the criteria that 42.7% of all statistics are made up on he spot by golly by gee!!!!!Nobody has yet advised how many victims succumb to deaths or other permanent damage with measles or other vaccination immunizations?????????

John you don't read right or correctly for that matter. Your so bent on "rightwingnut" phrase andall yhou want to do is paint the writer with your own brush as it were so that the image you want to see is the image you create and right about. I caught you saying things about me that you want me to have said and not what I said. For example I did mention that WND reported a NBC news article at the very beginning of our discussion. I mentioned the 30,000,000 million illegal aliens coming into the US since 1980 not intending to talk about how many achieved legality but about something else (selecting the appropriate level of immigrant). Your comments draw attention to your motives which have resolved themselves into "right wing nut job" as the ultimate conclusion to every conversation. Everything I talk about revolves around personal liberty, free enterprise, liberalisms follies and subversion of the Constitution and the real enemy which is the NWO and Soros leading us into perdition of collectivisim.

I am old enough to refer you to a compendium of articles on vaccines issued by WND which (if it hasn't already been removed) at
http://www.wnd.com/?s=vaccine

As for my age, I am young enough to know and old enough to know better.

The article disappeared when I went back to check it out and the headline about the CDC fingering the aliens at Disneylandby NBC and the article was no longer available. The WND people who published their findings have the answer as to what occurred I have no explanation but I have no reason to prevaricate since I was just reporting what others in authority stated and what I read. It seemed reasonable since locus of infections have been known to sprout and spread as it were in highly trafficked areas. Further, the other article I referred the reader to points to alternative studies and references to the effects of vaccinations which I think gives one pause to consider their potential impact upon personal decision making which should be available to the general public. I find your "Why do I keep misrepresenting....etc etc" is objectionable and makes me question your motives since I have not misrepresented anything. At best I am a messenger!