While I agree that too many of our citizens pay no attention to anything outside their daily lives, anything that doesn't directly affect them, your statement is unfair. You mention us not reading NAFTA, we NEVER get to see/read complete originals of any of these actions, including anything/everything down by congress. And certainly, we never hear about these things until they are already done deals. For 2-3 weeks now, we have been hearing about the possible DACA/immigration proposals to be considered by Congress, but we have seen a complete copy of any of them.

Here’s a bit to consider, although I am pretty sure you know all this~~~~When Stein said Wisconsin voting Machines were illegal she did so mistakenly thinking of Cali’s ban on touch screen machines because they left no paper trial and were easy to manipulate..

The largest problem is there is no uniformity in state choices of who they use or how they guarantee the voting machine accuracy..Its left to the vendor of the machines used... WTH??? Why???

Standards are set but how verified or inspected is pretty much left to the state.. I believe we should have uniformity by Federal mandate as to which machines can be used and required publication of inspections of the machines done before and after an election....

Testing and Certification of Voting Systems~~
Local jurisdictions select and purchase voting systems, but before they are able to do so the system must go through a testing process to ensure that it meets state standards and in some cases federal standards as well. Voting system vendors are responsible for ensuring that the system is tested—often through a federally accredited Voting Systems Test Laboratory or VSTL—to the required standards. Once testing is complete, approval is issued at the state level and local jurisdictions may purchase the system.
Thirty-eight states and the District of Columbia use some aspect of the federal testing and certification program in addition to state-specific testing and certification of systems:
Nine states and D.C. require testing to federal standards (states reference standards drafted by the FEC, NIST or the EAC): Connecticut, D.C., Hawaii, Indiana, Kentucky, Nevada, NewYork, Tennessee, Texas and Virginia.
Eighteen states require testing by a federally accredited laboratory: Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, Iowa, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New Mexico, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Utah and Wisconsin.
Eleven states require full federal certification (in statute or rule): Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Washington, West Virginia and Wyoming.
Four states refer to federal agencies or standards, but do not fall into the categories above:
Alaska: the director may consider whether the FEC has certified a voting machine when considering whether the system shall be approved for use in the state (though FEC certification is not a requirement).
California: the Secretary of State adopts testing standards that meet or exceed the federal voluntary standards set by the EAC.
Kansas: requires compliance with voting system standards required by HAVA.
Mississippi: DREs shall comply with the error rate standards established by the FEC (though other standards are not mentioned). (Note that the FEC no longer sets voting system standards.)
Eight states have no federal testing or certification requirements. Statutes and/or regulations make no mention of any federal agency, certification program, laboratory, or standard; instead these states have state-specific processes to test and approve equipment (Note that even states that do not require federal certification typically still rely on the federal program to some extent, and use voting systems created by vendors that have been federally certified):
Florida, Maine, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Oklahoma, and Vermont.
American Samoa, Guam, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands are also in this category.

The inaccessibility of computer code inside voting machines is rooted in another, more worrisome, set of laws, protecting trade secrecy.... “Trade-secret law makes it impossible to independently verify that” many voting machines are working properly. So our main hope for auditable elections has to be hand recounts of paper records of voting against electronic digital voting machines all having paper ballots that can be randomly verified...Yet, in some states they don’t even use a paper ballot.... (I suspect its intentional as well...)

Yet another that defines how little is really done to insure machines are accurate or tamper proof..

http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/the-canvass-january-2013.aspx

Is it no wonder you are unable to verify whether or not inspections and maintenance is even done??? For something so important there are very lyaxidascial standards!!

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2016/12/the_real_reason_we_need_recounts_in_michigan_wisconsin_and_pennsylvania.html

Here the lastest revisions going forward..

While none of this addresses specifically what you seek it sure explains why the information is not readily available nor why the government does not mandate audits or independant inspections of the machines.. Technology isn’t always good...

https://www.eac.gov/news/2017/09/12/committee-approves-next-generation-of-voting-system-guidelines/

Not done yet.~~ Its become a mission!!

Holy crumb!!!! What an outstanding life you have been a part to!! No need to worry about “comparing”, lolol I concede right now...

Take a few months off and it’ll take at least a year to regain where you were when you took a sabbatical, as I call them.. The new people always threw me off..lolol..

My lobbying was on a state level with hopes to make it to the floor, house or up if needed.. Also was not a money Persuasion but rather seeking out those of like mind and want in attempting to change or draft a bill on whatever the issue was at stake...

Thank You very much with sharing a bit of your private life... Honored and humbled by it..

I always thought NAFTA was simply a way to reduce tariffs...Mr. Bill was smart to keep you on board for that differring view...I am sure it helped him tremendously..

Given the fact Mr. Rios, won the election, that speaks volumes about you..Were you also involved with his daughters entry into her position ??

Impressed you weren’t a Clinton fan.. Yes, I most likely would be surprised by your expierence in the political arena of liars, thieves and greedy Narcissists..

Also would love for you to share more and perhaps educate me in the reality of your experience.. Mine is limited to what I grew up with in learning about politics from my parents and given my occupation what I learn and continue to learn everyday.. So, I will gladly share with you anytime...Not compare, but share... Done some lobbying on the state level and have a pretty good networking portfolio... I pick and choose the fights of others and my personal beliefs of the topic... If I don’t believe in it then I simply excuse myself from it.. Ok, enough here, beginning to look like the composition of a CV.

Soooo, Cripple, if I may, what is your position about NAFTA?? How about tariffs?? Was NAFTA brought about to really reduce tariffs ??I say eliminate them in and for all countries and use the funds saved to invest in more import/export trading thereby enhancing world economies for all..

Trump echo’d this in the G7 meeting and you see how it was completely ignored.. Why is that, Cripple???

Finally, taken from your post;This is the 1st time in my life to be confronted with such a large degree of a fact is only a fact if it falls within a persons' belief system. Amazing! ~~
Yes, it is amazing and likewise pathetic.. Division and hate the new rulers~~~

Linda, i agree 100% with you...Nobody made me to vote for President Trump..I dont follow anybody's advice...I follow my own thinking...I voted for President Trump and i am not gonna feel guilty about it!!!.....And the more they left,No-Trumpers Libs gonna tell me what a horrible,racist person i am because i voted for him... the more im gonna tell you "Screw you!!!....Im envoking my right to vote for whomever i want,unless we live in Communist country!!!" So get off my back,im not a sheeple ...Im Proud Republican,but most of all im Proud American!!!

Money is and has been what has always motivated criminal hill.. They are the hand puppets of the big boys with the real money, that actually do run this country and many others.

The only two party system in our country is We the People vs criminal hill elitism..

The dummies are we the people that gave them power over us and then did not hold them accountable for their Dereliction of duty..

Why are you now anti~voters?? Do you vote, btw??? I certainly hope you haven’t thrown away that right in your disgust..

One more thing~~

Clinton signed NAFTAinto law on December 8, 1993; the agreement went into effect on January 1, 1994. Clinton, while signing the NAFTA bill, stated that "NAFTA means jobs... Clinton supported this garbage bil from inception to his signing of it into law..”American jobs, and good-paying American jobs” is what he said..” If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't support this agreement."

Whats up with accusing others while doing the very thing your rant is on??? Lazy sheeple, you say~~ Alrightyyyyy then.. What are you doing with this postt??? What is its purpose??
Bitching just to bitch??

Entitled to your own opinion you shouldn’t be so eager to belittle others with your careless tone of discord and only assumption of what or how or who vetts things.. Don’t recall the displeasure of your company prior to this thread.. Never assume, quickest way to make an ass out u and me.. .You know the saying...

You should not whip your self so vigorously,and ask your self were you a racist, or like so many others we are alluding to merely a bigot/duped pawn;because thats what most of sort are.Preconceived notions of what other people are or are alike are embedded in you for the most part,or you judge all by the few as most people do.This is so because although the country is officially/legally desegregated,birds of a feather inherently flock together,hence a scenario of ignorance prevails,PEOPLE DON'T KNOW comprehensively.This occurs in other facids besides race.
You are to be commended,however,and should pay/spread that noble concept foward;in other words-THANK YOU!

You've made a lot of statements there which are unproven. You say there is no such thing as a perjury trap. Yes, there is. They question a Trump aide or Trump Jr or whomever it was strongly about colluding with Russians and having meetings with them. He flatly denies it. Then they bring up the fact that he spoke to a Russian in a bar or maybe even had a drink with him. Suddenly, PERJURY!!l Too bad, you lied. That's the kind of game Mueller is playing. That's the way you trap them. Even if Trump could be proven to have lied every one of these times, he is eminently more trustworthy than his 2016 opponent. I thank God constantly we don't have to deal with those kinds of lies and crookedness. Have you examined the facts on the Clinton foundation or the Clinton e-mail scandal? I rest my case.