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Mar 13, 2023 03:02:45   #
RascalRiley wrote:
Then all the women who have been molested by Trump are lying?

The testimony of others women in the E Jean Carroll trial will be interesting.


Funny thing, he was caught on tape boasting about almost word for word what he had already been credibly accused of. The arrogance is breathtaking...
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Mar 13, 2023 02:58:48   #
Liberty Tree wrote:
You have a partisan hack D.A and a partisan Grand jury so anything is possible. They do not even care if they get a conviction as long as they can stop Trump from running in 2024. They want to cause him grief. It is not about justice, it is about hate.


Causing him grief is just an incidental side note to proving that the rich powerful and connected are not above the law. Also try substituting “contempt” for hate. Many prominent Republicans are disgusted by his simian antics, in private many more find his gauche, parvenue poor-white-trash-with-money shtick an embarrassment. For hate look no further than the court jester Tucker Carlson who if you look closely has had a nose job to make it fit DJT’s ample arse crack. No wonder he hates Trump.
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Mar 13, 2023 02:23:59   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Amaze away, Frenchie, the fact is the riot began before president Trump had finished his speech.
He was a mile and a half away, no one at the Capitol building heard any of it.

I am certainly not amazed that a bottom feeder like you would think this is just "spin".


Oh you concede that there WAS a “riot”?
That’s a step up from “normal tourist day”.

We ARE making progress here aren’t we...?
😊
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Mar 13, 2023 02:13:52   #
David L wrote:
Essentially total B.S. and more evidence comes out every day to prove it.

And let's set the record straight. No one ever asked Pence to "overturn an election." All he had to do was to postpone the vote until someone in authority looked at the mounting evidence of fraud. by that time there were thousands of sworn affidavits by those who witnessed wrong doing.

Look up the word "Certify" or "certification." It is definitely not a ceremonial procedure, but rather a duty to make sure everything is true and correctly done. Pence failed miserably so in effect Pence, not Trump, was responsible for Jan 6.
Essentially total B.S. and more evidence comes out... (show quote)



Semantics. You and your wild eyed friends have proven nothing except how to make yourself look like fools. Contrarian oppositional defiant teenagers.
Time to grow up junior.
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Mar 12, 2023 20:15:25   #
guzzimaestro wrote:
Move to Canada with that other slime


I’ve got a better idea. Why don’t you move to Russia where intolerance of opposing or different ideas to your own has been institutionalized. You may fit in better there but careful what you think. Vladimir is listening....
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Mar 12, 2023 16:01:59   #
guzzimaestro wrote:
You mean the "attack" that the dementia ridden 'crats planned? If pence hadn't certified the fraudulent election, we would not have that criminal in office today


I guess you missed the part where Pence was constitutionally obligated to certify the results of the election. He had no choice but to certify or commit a criminal act himself.

While Pence in my view is too ardently religious to be an effective president he does appear to be a decent man beset by his own political ambitions.
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Mar 12, 2023 15:51:30   #
Ronald Hatt wrote:
Pence...so stupid...he does not recognize the FBI, & nasty Pelosi, as the "perpetrators"! ! ! !

How could America have mis-judged Pence so badly? [ Pence had "ME", fooled also! ]

Republicans of "High Profile"...in the Senate? { Demoncrats in Republican clothing....filthy cowards that they are!



Right, and up is down, black is white and there is no such thing as objective reality...
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Mar 12, 2023 15:49:34   #
RascalRiley wrote:
There would still be a criminal in the White House.

Just a different criminal.


Essentially correct.
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Mar 12, 2023 14:22:40   #
Who would have thunk it?


U.S. NEWS

MARCH 11, 2023 / 11:46 PM

'History will hold Donald Trump accountable' for Jan. 6, Pence says

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -Former U.S. Vice President Mike Pence offered his most forceful rebuke to date of his one-time boss Donald Trump on Saturday, saying that history will hold him accountable for his role in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

Pence was in the Capitol when thousands of Trump supporters breached the building in an attempt to stop Congress from certifying the results of the 2020 presidential election, which Trump lost to Joe Biden.

As the vice president has the constitutional role of Senate president, Pence was presiding over what had always been the ceremonial task of approving the votes of the Electoral College to select the president and vice president.

Throughout the siege, Trump sent several tweets, one calling on Republicans to “fight” and others making false claims of voter fraud. He also criticized Pence for certifying the results.

“President Trump was wrong,” Pence told assembled journalists and their guests at the Gridiron dinner, an annual white-tie event in Washington, D.C.

“I had no right to overturn the election, and his reckless words endangered my family and everyone at the Capitol that day, and I know that history will hold Donald Trump accountable.”

Pence, who is considering a run for the Republican nomination for the 2024 presidential election, was whisked to safety by law enforcement during the attack.

He rarely addressed Jan. 6 in the months following the incident, but has since upped his criticism of the rioters and the behavior of his former boss that day.

He has sharply criticized Trump’s conduct in recent media interviews, and in a memoir released in November, he accused Trump of endangering his family.

Still, Pence’s comments on Saturday were his most pointed to date.

“What happened that day was a disgrace,” he said. “And it mocks decency to portray it any other way. For as long as I live, I will never, ever diminish the injuries sustained, the lives lost, or the heroism of law enforcement on that tragic day.”

A spokesperson for Trump did not immediately respond to a request for comment outside business hours.

Pence’s relationship with Trump has been complex since the two left office. He had criticized the former president’s behavior but refrained from the most stinging rebukes of Trump. He also declined to cooperate with the House of Representatives committee investigating the Capitol attack, describing the work done by the mainly Democratic body as partisan.

The former vice president’s comments on Saturday indicate he is willing to more forcefully distance himself from Trump as the 2024 campaign heats up - even if that means alienating the millions of Republican voters still loyal to the former president.

His remarks came just days after conservative television host Tucker Carlson aired security footage of the Capitol attack, claiming that many of the rioters were “orderly.”

Carlson’s depiction of Jan. 6 was sharply criticized by Democrats and several high-profile Republicans in the Senate, though many other Republicans - particularly in the House - shrugged off the episode.

Reporting by Gram Slattery; Editing by William Mallard and Raju Gopalakrishnan

Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles
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Mar 12, 2023 14:00:11   #
RascalRiley wrote:
He might eventually get indicted. You or I definitely.

Had he not been president, if he did not have supporters within the justice department, if he did not have a volatile base, it would have happened a long time ago.

One of his reasons for declaring so soon and then laying low might have been to make it political, as you alluded to.

Trump believes he has done no wrong.

Trump expects, no demands that those loyal to him or those he has dirt on tow that line. No wrong.

He is after all, maybe the most honest man God has ever created. His words. He believes that and so should all.
He might eventually get indicted. You or I definit... (show quote)


He is also the most balanced President in history with a chip on each shoulder...
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Mar 12, 2023 13:38:19   #
Rinaldi wrote:
A forum like this is the playground for the very worst kind of bigots, homophobes and racists.

It is very hard to have rational and civil discourse because everyone has their own biased point of view.

And because of the anonymity, the feeling of being empowered to insult becomes overwhelming for most.


True but perhaps we should be grateful that OPP is at least an outlet for dirty underwear to be hung out in public and accept there is going to be some smelly aspects to some posts.
Anger Management groups provide a drop in for chronic rageaholics and it’s safe to vent in a controlled setting for some.
OPP has by default become such an outlet but I would caution against reacting to something that is no more than a demand for attention from a disturbed individual.

Better we observe and move on to more important issues like how we can stop or at least slow the runaway train of social division in this country.
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Mar 12, 2023 13:21:21   #
Kevyn wrote:
You misspelled lick by replacing the l with a k. Can’t you get anything right?


No, most of them can’t. Look at who some of them support. This personal attack style is indicative only of a lack of intellectual rigor and chronic cognitive dissonance bought on by a paucity of ideas.
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Mar 12, 2023 05:41:59   #
proud republican wrote:
Well, Trump is NOT a President!! It's Biden and buck stops with him..He is Commander-in-Chuef unfirtunately... 13 Americans died on HIS watch, NOT Trump's..So get it through your head... Biden is an asshole. Who got 13 bestest Anerucans killed


I am impressed that you folks are finally conceding that yes Trump lost the election and Biden is in fact the legitimate President
Of the United States of America.

You go girl!
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Mar 10, 2023 16:21:00   #
permafrost wrote:
Good post Kevyn, You can always gage how good a post is by big a frenzy the orange troops go into..


Kevyn knows how to needle the Stormtrumpers and MAGAnauts...just post the facts...
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Dec 26, 2022 21:36:48   #
pegw wrote:
Do you really belive that Russia, who can't defeat the Ukrainians, is a big threat to the US? They only have 2 cards, oil and Nukes.


...and they’ve overplayed both.
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