permafrost wrote:
Nearly all of us from that time knew a lot who did not come back... Marines were lost every day at times and the whole crummy war should not have been fought.. But circumstances demanded the action that we were involved in..
You, like most of trumps troops do not seem to give shit about anything but your own personal comfort..
Have a good evening ... come back tomorrow...
Do you not realize how many vets are Trump supporters! I am the wife and Mother of two of those vets who fought for this country and who are Trump supporters, along with many friends who have fought for this country from Nam up to now! BTW! Not only Marines were lost in that war! You should be ashamed of yourself for making such a disrespectful comment, but I have no doubt that you are not. Funny what your kind of hate does to the very soul of a man!
Below are some messages from vets!
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Darren Smiley
How common is it for a Marine to be a Democrat?
Fairly rare. The Corps is pretty rooted in tradition. “Traditional” tends to be fairly conservative. Today that means “Republican”.
Every Marine I know voted for President Trump mostly because they absolutely despise Hillary Clinton. Despise in a visceral, unintelligible way. “I would rather shoot myself in the face while feeding my nuts into a meat grinder than vote for her” as one of my friends put it. Which ultimately means they feel the same way about her as the anti-Trump crowd feels about him. They feel she was contemptuous towards the military in general, and Marines specifically. They feel she left Chris Stevens to die. They could rattle off a dozen other reasons.
I’ve never even heard a rumor about a Marine who supports socialism in any way shape or form. If such a mythical creature existed he or she would be distrusted by his fellow Marines at best, and outright villified at worst. Almost every Marine today was probably at least trained by a cold war era Marine. To them socialism is communism, and the commies are the bad guys.
Now, when people cast their ballot, it is private. Maybe a lot of them vote “D”, and they just don’t talk about it.
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Richard Johnson
Why are the war vets more likely to be a Republican in the US?
You enlist at age 19, registered Democrat with the most altruistic of motives. “I’m going to save lives and property at sea! I’m going to good for my fellow humans!”
At age 20, you realize that far more than people relying on you to save them, they are relying on you to save yourself and just effin’ do your job, so they can stay alive too. You must emotionally and philosophically confront a new truth—that you are ultimately in charge of your own mortality—and a second new truth—people will tell you anything if it gets you to do something for them (in this case enlist.) You see that “the truth” is nothing like what you are told.
At age 21, you have that figured out and “have your shit together.” You understand your job, what’s needed and what’s expected regardless of how it was described. You do your job. You learn what it’s like to become part of a functioning team. A real team where the skills and actions of everyone matter, and mesh.
At age 22, it becomes clear that actions matter far more than words. Both have consequences, but when that stranger is going to drown or freeze unless you personally risk drowning and freezing, you have to decide right then that your feelings about this don’t matter. You have to go out. You don’t have to come back.
And when at age 27, and you get a postcard from a stranger thanking you for saving her mother, you finally fully integrate your service. How you feel about that situation, how much we talk about your or her pain, how much you needed to struggle to learn swim all don’t mean much. What matters is that when the time came … you acted.
One day, two candidates for office come to your door. One wants you to pay money to have strangers provide food for the hungry, and also wants you to give up your ability to defend yourself. The other wants you to keep a gun, participate in the neighborhood watch, and volunteer time gleaning surplus fruit.
In that moment, you remember being 20 and discovering that no amount of external coercion changes the basic truth that you have to be able to carry your own weight before you can also carry someone else’s. You remember being 22 and discovering that actions matter more than words. You remember being 27 and being thanked for actually carrying that extra weight of someone else and saving her, again reminded that outcomes matter more than feelings.
So after they leave, you go down to the county elections office and change your party affiliation from Democrat to Republican (in my case Libertarian) because you no longer believe in their platform.
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Al Nolf
Former Senior Chief (E-8) at United States Navy (USN) (1968–1989)Author has 7.3K answers and 21.2M answer views3y
Which political party would you say supports the US military the most?
Under Democrats the US military was reduced to levels not seen since the end of WW2. Under President Trump Both the VA and the military have received big boosts. The military budget under Trump is 700 Billion x two years, and our wounded Veterans are FINALLY getting the needed medical treatment they require.
Go back as many years as you like. It was Democrats who were Rioting in the streets and who Protested against us when we came home from Vietnam. Tell the sanitized story to your grandkids any way that makes you feel better, but Vietnam Veterans will never forget.