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Mar 26, 2015 12:16:19   #
KHH1 wrote:
**If you push the children academically in a rigorous way...there are scholarships available that are based on talent and not even need-based....my Dad got to pocket all of his money he had for our college funding....5 kids....made him like us even more...but he knew what he was doing when he made us study our azzes off......start early with them...they will thank you and you will thank yourself down the road......


Gee thanks I wish I had thought of that. Your really not as bright as you think you are are you.

I have 2 kids who were straight A 4.0 students who both had over 30 college credits by the time they graduated high school.

Neither of which were able to get any scholarship money or government assistance.

One is currently in law school and the other is pre vet, both brilliant students who are extremely studious but still only good enough to get them into the college program of their choosing.

I'm happy for you and your family, most Americans are being forced to make hard finacial choices because of higher premiums and or outrageous deductibles forced on us by the not so affordable care act.

This was not necessary if the stated goal was healthcare for every american. They didn't need to hijack our entire healthcare system to achieve that goal. It's all about power and control of the people, which should scare everyone and not just us fiscal conservatives.
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Mar 26, 2015 11:38:12   #
KHH1 wrote:
Carson needs to stick to surgery.....for a brilliant man..he is an idiot outside of the operating room...he is almost as bad as Palin..................


It's easy to sit on your couch with your iPad and spout out things like that. Why don't you please be so kind as to educate us why he is anymore of an idiot than lets say Pink is who seems to have no problem voicing her political views yet has no education to speak of.
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Mar 26, 2015 10:34:58   #
She Wolf wrote:
Why is it if a person feels everyone should have insurance, you jump to the conclusion I somehow benefit from it? Please don't judge me by your greedy standards.

I have private insurance which I pay for. I really feel sorry for you. When money is more important then the lives of human beings, how can you say you believe in the right to life. Or is it the right to life for only those YOU feel are worthy.


There many people on here who say they want a better world for our children, whether that's healthcare or global warming or economic opportunity. Yet they advocate policies that directly contradict those stated beliefs and goals.

I am just an average middle aged (perhaps even slightly angry) christian white guy.

Who has given an enormous amount of his time and energy to helping others. I do this by choice not because the government told me I had too.

Now we all have a stake in the future of our children our communites and our country in that order. So when my insurance doubled under the ACA that cost me an additional $6000 dollars a year. When obama first became president we all had over 2% of our incomes taken from us in higher taxes. That's another $4000 dollars a year out of my pocket.

Now I have children in college and grand children that will one day want to go to college and that's $10,000 dollars a year I no longer have to help ensure my children have the same opportunities that I have had.

I had also planned on building a ranch for handicapped and inner city kids could come and learn and grow beyond their daily hardships. I have had to postpone this because our government took it away from me and these children.

So please do not tell us money means more to someone than the life of another human being.

Yes the bible teaches us to care for those who cannot care for themselves but it does not tell us we must care for those who can but choose not care for themselves.

You fight for better fuel effiency, you get it but now we don't have enough taxes coming in to pay for our highways.

You want electric cars, but it turns out electric plants pollute the air more than modern gasoline engines do.

You want higher wages for low skilled employees yet want open boarders letting in millions and millions of more unskilled workers competing for a limited supply of jobs.

Want to be fuzzy and warm letting in millions of muslims whose Shiria Law directly contradicts our constitutional freedoms.

Yes I scatch my head at people who seem to think its ok to have a government that steals from one person to give to another person literally at gun point.

What the hell is wrong with you people ???

Even if we let in 10 million immigrants a year it still isn't but a drop in the bucket of world poverty when there are 100's of billions of more poverty stricken people a year.

We simply cannot save the world all by ourselves.
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Mar 25, 2015 13:20:54   #
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
My Posting March 25, 2015... It has been suggest that the only reason Little "Willie" & "Lesbo" Hitlery stay married is they can't be made to testify against each other as man & wife... Sounds good to me... Don D.

The Clinton Corpses

Posted by HOGSTER on February 21, 2014


Clinton Corpse Collection

This is just the short list, The long list will blow your socks and jocks off.

I've investigated a lot of crimes over the last 32 years, including murders. Any criminal investigator with the slightest bit of experience and training could easily see (and most have seen) the many flaws, holes and gaps in the so-called Vince Foster "murder" investigation by, of all the fede...ral law enforcement agencies, the Park Police. But, when one does a little more checking into the past of Bill and Hillary Clinton, they will find a long path of former friends, associates and business partners of the Clinton's who have died young and under mysterious circumstances. The following is a partial list of those whose blood cries out for justice.

Kevin Ives and Don Henry: Died August 1987. Reportedly, they had stumbled upon the Arkansas Mena Drug Operation (many stories and articles have been written about Clinton's affiliation with the Mena Mafia) It was first reported that these two young boys died as a result of falling asleep on a railroad track. It was later revealed that Ives had received a crushed skull prior to being placed on the tracks and Henry had been stabbed to death. The following 7 deaths were all of people who reportedly had knowledge and information concerning the mysterious, unsolved murders of Kevin Ives and Don Henry:


1.Keith Coney:died July 1988 from injuries sustained from a motorcycle accident. Some reports indicated that he was being chased by an unidentified vehicle.


2.Keith McKaskle: died Nov. 1988 from multiple stab wounds.


3.Greg Collins: died Jan. 1989 from a gunshot wound to the head. No suspect was ever found.


4.Jeff Rhodes: died April 1989 from a gunshot wound to the head. His body was burned and thrown in a dumpster.


5.James Milam: died 1989. His death was ruled as being from Natural Causes, until his head was later recovered from a trash bin!


6.Richard Winters: died July 1990 from injuries sustained during a robbery attempt. He was a suspect in the death of Kevin Ives and Don Henry. Some reports claim the robbery was only a setup.


7.Jordan Kettleson: died June 1990. He died from gunshot wounds and was found sitting in his truck.


•Suzanne Coleman: died when Clinton served as Arkansas Attorney General. She was alleged to have been "romantically" involved with Clinton. Although she died from a gunshot to the back of her head, the death was ruled a suicide! She was pregnant at the time of her death.


•Alan Sandorf:died 1991. Sandorf was an employee of NSA (National Security Agency). He was reportedly providing info. to Danny Casolaro, who was an independent reporter investigating the INSLAW case (INSLAW involved Justice Dept. theft, cover-ups, missing records, fraud and gov. corruption of all sorts) Sandorf body was found in the back seat of a car at the Washington National Airport.


•Dennis Eisman: shot to death in 1991. Eisman was an attorney, who was also working on the INSLAW case.


•Danny Casolaro: found dead in a Virginia motel room in 1992. His arms had been slashed multiple times. Casolaro was an independent investigative reporter who had extensive files and information on the INSLAW case against the Justice Dept. and other "high ranking" government officials. Even though his body was found, his files and documentations were said to have never been located!


•Victor Raiser II: died in 1992 from an unexplained airplane crash. He was co-chairman of the "Clinton for President" campaign. Montgomery Raiser, his son, also involved with the Clinton campaign was killed in the plane crash with his father and 5 other people.


•Ian Spiro: died in 1992. His wife and 3 children were found murdered in their home. They had been shot to death (execution style) Several days later Spiro's body was found in the Borego Desert. His autopsy revealed the cause of death as cyanide poisoning. He held files and evidence to produce before a grand jury in the INSLAW proceedings.


•Paul Tully: died 1992 from unknown causes. His body was found in a motel room in Little Rock Arkansas. He was supposedly one of Clinton's closest friends, and served as the National Democratic Committee Chairman.


•Jim Wilhite: died 1992 in a one person skiing accident. Wilhite had close ties to Clinton and was a former associate of Mack Mclarty (long time friend and counselor of Bill Clinton).


•Paula Gober: died 1992 from an unwitnessed one car accident. She traveled with Clinton and was his speech interpreter for the deaf for 4 years.


•Paul Wilcher: died 1993 from an "undetermined cause". He was a Washington attorney, who was investigating gov. corruption in the Mena Arkansas drug running organization and the BATF assault in the Waco ordeal. He had turned in a lengthy affidavit to Janet Reno only 3 weeks prior to his mysterious death! His body was found in a Washington apartment. His reports and documents have never been released.


•Robert Williams, Todd McKeehan, Conway LeBleau and Steve Willis: all died in 1993 from identical gunshot wounds to their left temples. They were the only BATF agents killed in Waco, Texas during the Branch Davidian raid. They also just happen to have been Clinton bodyguards!


•Scott Reynolds, William Barkley, Brian Hassley and Tim Sabel: all died in a "freak" helicopter crash in 1993, All 4 men had served as Clinton bodyguards. The helicopter crash site, near Quantico Virginia was barred from reporters and a video of the crash site, taken by a firefighter, was seized by military officials.


•Gary Rhodes, William Robertson, William Desberger and Robert Kelly: all died in another helicopter crash in 1993. This one occurred in Germany and the cause was never determined. All 4 men were Clinton Bodyguards. They, along with 8 other men who were associated with Clinton's previous visit to the U.S.S. Roosevelt, died within a 4 month period!


•Vince Foster: died 1993 from a gunshot wound to the head. Long time "friend" of Hillary (Bill too) Clinton. He was the White House Deputy Counsel at the time of his murder....oh!. excuse me, suicide. Why do so many people who know the Clinton's want to kill themselves? I may add another page later to explain my many reasons for believing Foster's death to have been a murder and a sloppy cover up attempt. Many people, including some Republican Congressmen, have tried (as recently as July 1998) to get the Clinton Justice Dept. to re-open the investigation into Vincent Foster's death.


•Jon Parnell Walker: died 1993 from injuries received after "falling" from an apartment balcony at the top of the Lincoln Towers. This was a place in which Vince Foster was reported to use as a getaway! Walker was an investigator for the RTC (Resolution Trust Corporation) who was investigating the Whitewater affair and the Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan bankruptcy scandal. Walker was attempting to have the investigation moved from Arkansas to Washington at the time of his alleged slip off the top of the Lincoln Towers.


•Luther (Jerry) Parks: died from multiple gunshot wounds in 1993. His body was found by an intersection on I-10 outside Little Rock. He was the head of the Security Team at Clinton's National Campaign Headquarters in Arkansas. He had compiled a large file involving illicit activities (including sexual affairs) by Bill Clinton.

By the way,just prior to his death, his house was burglarized and all of his files and photos on Clinton and "friends" were stolen!

Nothing else was taken. Jerry's 23 year old son, Gary Parks, stated to The "London Sunday Telegraph,"..."they had my father killed to save Bill Clinton's political career!" With 9 bullets having been removed from his body, the suicide theory has not yet been applied to this one!


•Stanley Heard and Steven Dickson: died 1993 in an unexplained airplane crash near the Dulles airport. Dickson was counsel to Heard, who was the chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Committee. Heard had also known and treated Clinton's mother and other Clinton family members.


•Ed Willey: died from a gunshot wound in 1993. He was a Clinton fundraiser and the husband of Kathleen Willey, another lady who fell victim to a sexual attack by Sicko Willie. His death was ruled....what else? A suicide, of course. It has been reported that he died the same day Mrs. Willey was "groped" by Clinton in the ORAL office.


•Gandy Baugh: died 1994. Of course, it was another suicide. Baugh was an attorney for Dan Lasater (Clinton's long time comrade from Arkansas, who was later convicted on criminal charges, including drugs). Baugh's law partner, not to be outdone, decided to commit his suicide exactly a month later!


•Herschell Friday: died in 1994. He was a member of Clinton's Presidential Finance Committee. The airplane he was flying in committed suicide by blowing itself up in mid flight!


•Bill Shelton: died 1994. He was an Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Furguson (we'll get to her momentarily). Shelton did a "trick suicide". He shot himself in the back of the head while visiting Kathy's grave!


•Kathy Furguson: died 1994. You guessed it. Suicide, by a gunshot to the head. Kathy, a hospital worker was recently divorced from Danny Furguson, another Arkansas State Trooper. Danny was also Clinton's co-defendant in the "Paula Jones" sexual harassment lawsuit. Kathy was known to be a little "too open" about sharing information with folks about Clinton's 3rd rate romances. Danny Furguson spared himself from a possible "suicide" when he changed his mind and decided that he did not escort Paula Jones to Clinton's motel room after all!


•Stanley Huggins: died 1994 after a "short illness". He had been a member of a large Memphis law firm and the head investigator probing into the suspicious loan and banking practices of the Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan.


•Calvin Walraven: died 1994. He was a 24 yr. old, and one of the state's main witnesses against Jocelyn Elder's son, who was up on drug charges. His body was found in his Arkansas apartment with a gunshot to the head. Even though the authorities never called it a suicide, the Little Rock P.D. said there was "no foul play suspected".

By the way, Jocelyn Elders was the "let's make marijuana legal and criminalize tobacco" Surgeon General, who was hand picked by Willie Boy! No need for her to commit suicide. She apparently came into the Surgeon General's position already brain-dead!


•Dr. Ronald Rogers: died 1994 from yet another bizarre plane crash. He was on the way to do an interview with a reporter for the "London Sunday Telegraph" about some of the scandalous and secret dealings of Bill Clinton.


•Ron Brown: died 1996. Brown was the Secretary of Commerce and the former chairman of the Democratic National Committee. He died along with 39 others in a plane crash, on the way to Croatia. The plane crash was originally reported to have been caused by bad weather. After independent sources revealed that there was no bad weather, the reports cited pilot error and navigational equipment failure as the cause.

Brown was very close to being indicted over financial fraud schemes etc., and had publicly announced that he was willing to make a deal with the prosecution. Many allegations have came out about Brown's missing, lost or stolen autopsy records containing x-rays that clearly showed a "bullet hole" in the back of Brown's head and bullet fragments inside his skull! If it's ever proven, I wonder if they'll also attribute that to pilot error?


•Barbara Wise:died 1996. Barbara was a 14 year employee with the Department of Commerce. She was an associate of Johnny Huang (financial and trade scandals, etc.) During the time rumors were circulating around Washington about Huang's possible involvement in illegal activities, the body of Barbara Wise was found in her Dept. of Commerce office. Her body was severely bruised and semi- nude. No official cause of death was ever released.


•Charles Meissner: died 1996. He was the Assistant Secretary of Commerce for International Economic Policy. He placed Johnny Huang on a Commerce Dept. Contract that allowed Huang to maintain a security clearance. Soon thereafter, Meissner was killed in the same plane crash along with Ron Brown.


•Admiral Jerry Boorda: died 1996. Admiral Boorda was the Chief of Naval Operations. He supposedly went home for lunch one day and, rather than have his scheduled interview with the Newsweek Magazine that afternoon, he decided to shoot himself twice in the chest.


•William Colby: died 1996. Former Director of Central Intelligence, William Colby was feared by many "insiders" because of the information Colby was allegedly writing about for his new book. He had already went public with information about illegal spying on American citizens and other CIA activities that embarrassed the agency. Colby was reported missing by neighbors. A massive search was conducted and the only thing recovered was Colby's canoe. He had left his house unlocked, his computer on and his lunch only partially eaten. Colby was known for his tidiness, but his house was said to have been in complete disarray. His wife stated that Colby never, never went out in his canoe without a life jacket on. But, several days later his body was discovered in the water in an area previously, thoroughly searched. He was not wearing a life-jacket. His book was never completed either.


•Mary Mahoney: died 1997. Mary was a former intern working in the White House for Bill Clinton. Rumors were said to have been circulating that a former intern was about to go public about being sexually harassed by Bill Clinton. Mahoney was working in a coffee shop in Georgetown, when gunmen entered. Mahoney's two associates were taken into a separate room and shot. Mary Mahoney's body contained five bullets. No money was taken. Murders never solved.


•Ron Miller: died 1997. Ron Miller was the man who tape recorded Gene and Nora Lum and turned the tapes over to the congressional oversight investigators. The Lums were arrested, convicted and sentenced to prison for campaign violations by fraudulently concealing their identity and the size of their political contributions. Ron Miller, a very healthy man was suddenly struck very ill and died within days. The medical examiner's office in Oklahoma refused to release blood test results. Many believe Miller's death was a result of Ricin poisoning.


•Sandy Hume: died 1998. Sandy had worked for Fox News for 3 weeks. he was the son of Brit Hume, journalist and Fox News reporter. Sandy was previously a reporter for the Hill Magazine. The Magazine had been the one to break the story about congressional in-fighting involving the Speaker of the House and Rep. Paxon in 1997. Oddly enough Representative Paxon resigned within 24 hours after the announced death of Sandy Hume. There was and still remains a total media blackout concerning the death of Sandy Hume. The 28 year old go-getter, news digging reporter was known to get a head start on the "inside" dirt within the Washington establishment. Apparent suicide was the only comment supposedly released about his tragic and untimely death.
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And we all know that if she runs she will win, for no other reason than she is a woman and name recognition.

I was actually happy Obama beat her, I still think he was the lesser of two evils.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:48:07   #
KHH1 wrote:
My M.O. works very well for me...i wish you the same with yours........


I don't even know where to begin with you. It would be nice if republicans would all vote lock n step with what their leaders tell them to do like dems.

You may not like those fiscally conservative senators but they are doing what their constituents voted for them to do, not what the Rhino's are telling them to do.

This is a good thing for Washington, there needs to be more people who do what they know is right rather than what they are told.

We all scream about special interests running the show, I don't know about you but I would rather have honest people working toward saving our country than ones be holding to money.
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Mar 23, 2015 11:40:22   #
Kevyn wrote:
This is a good point, many mobsters give generously to the church and carry out small acts of kindness for neighbors while running criminal enterprises and murdering people. The good dosn't in any way make up for or excuse the evil.


I suppose if you had been one of those stranded motorists you would have spit in their face and slapped the chicken to the snow before ever taking charity from a Christian.

They have a name for people like you.

"TOOL"

They were doing what we all should be doing on a daily basis, caring about and for our neighbors.

I often wonder about the libs here on OPP, how many hours a week do you personally volunteer doing good for others.
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Mar 20, 2015 12:31:47   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Since you are exalted above the great Apostle, tell us, what is the "message of Jesus"?

Your arrogance is astounding.


I am no evangelist, not am I as versed as many of you here on OPP. I am mearly a witness unto the vastness of God's creation. A couple of months ago we had a discussion on the bible where one of the verses refered to the word corn.

Now obviously this was a misinterpretation of another word. Where another poster who was much more knowledgable than I looked up and confirmed that yes I was correct that the king James version did indeed have a misintrepation of the meaning of something.

Now I am of the opinion that this isn't the only misinterpretation that can be found, with many of them being much more profound than a simple word for a type of food.

Jesus didn't adhere to the idea of shunning, stoning or casting out the unclean from God. He infact quite regularly sought them out, not to indulge in their wicked ways but to help them find the path that leads to God.

With that said,


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Mar 20, 2015 11:48:51   #
Glaucon wrote:
If, in Mexico, they are paying 25% of their earnings on water isn't that what would be expected with pure capitalism? No water, no trickle down. I was wondering how you could possibly end up blaming Alinski, Pelosi, Soros or Obama for the water problem. It was a bit poorly aimed and lacked any evidential foundation, but many of the true believers will blindly believe it despite the fact that it is pure nonsense.


Blame hardly, mearly pointing out the hypocracy of the left, you can't have but I'm special so what I want I get. In the case being special water privileges if you happen to be one of Pelosi's constituents. Don't even try to deflect this one, because you can easily look it up yourself.

And your a damn Alinskite if you can even type with a straight face that Mexico Cities water problems are do to capitalism. Here read my lips " TOO MANY PEOPLE" all trying to get what they need of a limited resource.

As for your trickle down crap, liberals invented that phrase not conservatives. But supply and demand is something we all must deal with on a daily basis.


Just because we don't agree on many things doesn't mean I don't enjoy our adversarial friendship.
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Mar 20, 2015 11:22:50   #
Glaucon wrote:
I agree, I don't think anyone should be pissing in your own private sand box.

RETW wrote:
http://politicaloutcast.com/2015/03/why-it-is-a-big-deal-that-presbyterians-redefined-marriage/

Where in any bible does it say gay marriage is OK?

RETW

Nowhere.

You are right, nowhere in the Bible does it say gay marriage is O.K. My Bible makes no mention of gay marriage at all. However, my Bible does say that slavery is O.K., stoning women to death for adultery, killing disobedient children, and stoning homosexuals to death are approved practices. We find what we want to find and disregard or rationalize the rest. What would we believe if we taught critical thinking skills in our schools instead of creationism?

The famous philosopher, David Hume said, "Truth comes from argument among friends." The tone of posts on this site don't suggest we are friends or that we desire to be friends. I don't think we want or could handle truth.
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Lord of life was the church I had been a member of for nearly 20 years until it blew up over gay pastors. I have also been a Boy Scout leader for nearly 20 years and have had to live through all of the turmoil brought on by people from both sides of the debate. Honestly discussions of any kind about sexual orientation has little to no place in scouting and never has. But, someone decided they were being discriminatory and must be punished for it. Married couples have never even been aloud to sleep in the same tent for crying out loud. The whole point of it is to be inclusive all boys no matter who what when how or anything else. To be able to progressively build on physical, social and leadership skills. We even worked very hard at getting extra training so we could be as inclusive as possible for special needs kids. And NO one would have ever said or even thought OMG little Johnny is gay so he can't participate.

Now I have had many gay/lesbian/Bi/transgender friends, co-workers and associates over the years. I have found them to be just as hard working, friendly and kind as anyone else I have met along this journey we call life.

But that doesn't necessarily mean I want them spiritually leading me in my relationship with God.

It's really non of mine, yours or anyone's else's business what people do in their bedrooms, bathrooms or kitchen tables. But when it comes to children safety must always always come 1st. I almost want to scream when the topic of transgender males using female HS lockerrooms comes up for debate.

THE ELCA (AND NO ONE ELSE) IS TO BLAME FOR THE TURMOIL FOUND WITHIN ITS CONGREGTIONS – LORD OF LIFE, RAMSEY, MN AND EVANGELICAL LUTHERAN, COKATO, MN
When the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) voted last August to allow practicing homosexual clergy to be placed on its clergy roster, they ignited a firestorm of controversy in thousands of their congregations. Most congregations calling special meetings to vote on leaving the ELCA face bitter division over two opposing views. This is especially true of the congregations that did not achieve the required 2/3s necessary for withdrawal.

Take for example Lord of Life Lutheran Church in Ramsey, Minnesota (3300 baptized members). This congregation voted June 20 to withdraw (310 to 255), but their vote failed to meet the 2/3s requirement. Likewise, when the votes were tallied at their June 23 meeting, the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Cokato, Minnesota (974 baptized members) split almost down the middle over leaving. Both congregations are now in turmoil from which neither may recover. This is true also for scores of other ELCA congregations, especially were the required voted failed by slim margins and where members left to start new congregations. In such situations, minority members left to operate their ELCA congregation have found it difficult if not impossible to maintain a viable congregation.

The ELCA itself is to blame for all of its congregations in turmoil. The vote last August to sanction homosexual clergy in the ELCA was 559-451. The ELCA leadership saw to it that the vote on this issue would pass with a simple majority. How interesting that a simple majority was sufficient to set the whole church in turmoil, while each local congregation’s vote tally must have a 2/3s plurality in order to leave the ELCA over the same issue.

The ELCA is to blame for this turmoil, because the decision to sanction practicing homosexual clergy within its ranks was on the agenda of the church’s leadership when the ELCA was being formed. The writings and statements of Bishop Herbert Chilstrom bear witness. That fact, along with a host of other doctrinal departures from truth, is what caused hundreds of congregations and clergy to withdraw membership even as the ELCA was coming into being.
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Mar 20, 2015 10:11:56   #
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I like Walker, my son has been working at the WI state capital for the past couple of years and I've seen the paid protesters they've thrown at him every single day. Their daily 1pm hate song fest is almost unbelievably insane.

But he made a booboo recently and that was to make it harder for young college woman to press rape charges against their attackers.

My other son's girl friend was recently raped up at NDSU, so I am currently witnessing first hand what it can do to young lives.

But even crazier is Hillary's reputation for being a champion of women's rights when she herself has been involved in trials opposing the plaintive. I sincerely hope someone throws that in her face at just the right time to catch that witch off guard where she can't weasle her way out of it.
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Mar 20, 2015 09:28:21   #
Glaucon wrote:
O.K.


Have either of you ever watched Disney's Tinker Bell and the Lost Treasure?There are these 2 1000 year old trolls who are best friends but bicker with one another constantly.

If you can't play nice go find some other sand box to piddle in.
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Mar 19, 2015 19:42:12   #
numenian wrote:
Spoiler Alert: those condemning groups of people, like Muslims and Homosexuals, and judging nations as being under the wrath of a righteous God, such as New Orleans and Haiti, need to read the Bible a little more in-depth.

If we want to find the truly defining feature between worldliness and godliness, justice as described in scripture makes it plain. The world wants and insists on retribution for wrong done; God wants and insists on restoration for wrong done, reprieved from punishment. These two views are diametrically opposed and never the twain shall meet. For God, mercy always takes precedent; for the world, it is punishment.

God's take on justice is abhorrent to the world: mercy, not sacrifice. Ridiculously idealistic.
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I am sure you have seen foot prints in the sand.

The meaning of it is slightly more than the obvious.

God doesn't punish people, he doesn't want his children to suffer. What he does is puts us into a crucible burning off our impurities. Strengthening us so that we can achieve the goals and tasks he has planned for us.

As for the muslim thing, I have many muslim friends and find them as warm and friendly as anyone else. But even they have a problem with Somalians, who seem to do nothing but take and never give back even to the muslim community.
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Mar 19, 2015 19:25:15   #
TroubleshooterTim wrote:
California had a government plan to build a huge river right in the middle of the valley that could store water for the farms. And it worked great, until some environmentalists found some little fish had gotten into this man made river/reservoir, and the California government then banned the use of that man made river/reservoir water for farming when it reached a certain level to save this little fish.

That's how big government works.


It seems to have run away, I think we scared the poor thing. Maybe we should have the EPA put together a panel to study it. Then have an environmental group sue the government forcing us to set aside enough land and water to ensure doesn't go extinct do to man made global warming.
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Mar 19, 2015 14:49:00   #
Glaucon wrote:
I wish our government had taken some action while it could still matter. I hope our government takes some action before climate change causes our earth to cease to be habitable and humans will become extinct as have 96% of the animals that have lived on earth.

That sinking feeling
Parts of the Central Valley of California are sinking a foot a year. The culprit: Farms that pump more water from a huge aquifer than nature can put back. Roads break and dikes crack, but that isn't the worst. As ground subsides, future aquifer storage space is lost. That means, eventually, that some farms will have to go dry. The state, belatedly, is imposing rules. Will they be enough?
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Hey G man, have you been to Mexico City lately?

Did you know that a majority of Mexico City residents spent upwards of 25% of their incomes just on water.

Yesterday you suggested to me that I see boogymen and that I might be guilty of using fear as a motivator. That is exactly what your big government is doing with global warming.

Global warming could ultimately have an impact on water fall in certain geographic area's but it is not the cause of many of our aquifers running low.
It's people, too many people, way way too many people all fighting over what has always been and always will be a very limited resource.

If liberal democratic california representatives like Pelosi would fight for desalination plants instead of giving her beloved San Fransico special water privileges maybe they could start working to solve the problem.

I personally do not worry about quantity of water I live in the land of plenty but I have always fought hard for clean watersheds.
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Mar 18, 2015 15:25:10   #
bdamage wrote:
You will not see this on the main stream media or hear it from the Pres. Here is the truth and the facts to back it up. The white house knows they cannot dispute this and will not try.

Our President made a speech and said we shouldn't be on our high horse because of something we (Christians) did 1,000 years ago in the name of Jesus Christ. So don't condemn what happened to that pilot ISIS burned alive that day by the Muslims? Can you even imagine what it would be like to be soaked with gasoline and set on fire to die slowly and painfully? What is going to happen if they get their hands on an American pilot?

OK, Let's look at all the terrorist actions we have seen over the past two decades:

The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Musiims
The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims'

NOW, Let's look at how the different religions can live as neighbours:

Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem
Christians living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem

BUT:

Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
Muslims living with Christians = Problem
Muslims living with Jews = Problem
Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem
Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM

SO THIS LEAD TO THE FACT THAT MUSLIMS

Are not happy in Gaza
Are not happy in Egypt
Are not happy in Libya
Are not happy in Morocco
Are not happy in Iran
Are not happy in Iraq
Are not happy in Yemen
Are not happy in Afghanistan
Are not happy in Pakistan
Are not happy in Syria
Are not happy in Lebanon
Are not happy in Nigeria
Are not happy in Kenya
Are not happy in Sudan

So, where the hell, are they happy?

They're happy in Australia
They're happy in England
They're happy in Belgium
They're happy in France
They're happy in Italy
They're happy in Germany
They're happy in Sweden
They're happy in Norway
They're happy in India
They're happy in the USA
They're happy in Canada

Bottom line: they're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic!

And who do they blame? Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves...

THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!!

And they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were not happy in.

Are the Islamists nuts or what ? Asking the question is answering it !

They don't have any multi-countries treaty; they don't have any commercial agreement with anyone; they don't have any International link but they have:

Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
ISIS: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

STOP trying to look politically correct and pretending that Islam is not the source of terrorism; Islam and its idiotic, frustrated and barbarian fanatics ARE the burden and the enemy of the Civilized World.

I end my case.
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We've been watching in MN.

Above: Somali “refugees” on lifetime welfare demand their free food adhere to Islamic Law

by Jason DeWitt | Top Right News

Whoever said “beggars can’t be choosers” never met Somali Muslim refugees in Minnesota.

These Muslim imports in Minneapolis are now demanding a tax-funded “halal” non-pork food shelfat a free food pantry for the poor.

As if it’s not bad enough that nearly all the “American” Muslims who have joined ISIS have been Somalis from Minneapolis, their relatives here are demanding that Americans adhere to the same Sharia Laws the Islamic State fighters are trying to impose throughout the Middle East.

A group of first-generation Somali Americans says they need help in developing a food shelf that specializes in healthy foods that do not contain pork or pork byproducts. “It’s about human rights also, basic human rights to get the proper food and also healthy food,” said Imam Hassan Mohamud.

“Human rights”? Seriously? Their arrogance and self-entitlement has to be unprecedented for a group on the public dole.

Tens of thousands of Somalis settled in Minneapolis/St. Paul after Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and later Barack Obama imported them and funded massive “refugee” centers there. Welfare, schools, hospitals and social services have been crushed by the burden of immigrants who lack the most basic skills to live in a modern society.

This is hardly the first demands Somalis have made on the good people of Minneapolis. When the influx of Somali thugs natually resulted is a massive increase in crime a decade ago, Somalis demanded a $48 million Sharia-compliant “youth center” to keep Somali gangs “out of trouble”.

We have read for several years now how Muslim cab drivers in Minneapolis and several airports have kicked out blind passengers with guide dogs (dogs are “unclean” in Islam), or customers transporting alcohol. They came here, taking advantage of American generosity, and returned it by enforcing their own brand of Sharia Law upon us.

Liberals in Minnesota have bent over backwards for them, setting up foot-washing basins in their airport and even at a university, in response to their demands.

But as with most appeasement, these refugees keep making more demands. Now it is for “halal” products (meat slaughtered with Islamic prayers and a ban on pork).

The Imam leading this protest actually claimed that there were beans with pork in it and this was a “literacy” issue that required more government funding and special halal-compliant beans. But one commenter on the article from Minneapolis wrote:

As someone who made use of the foodshelf recently, I can tell you that most of the food doesn’t contain pork. I hear what they are saying about a literacy issue, but can’t the food shelf people just point out the cans of pork and beans? Besides, the food shelf is based on donations!

This is not about Muslims “making do” or getting help on what to eat. The Koran demands that Muslim make any country they live in adapt to them and Sharia Law. The last thing they plan to do is assimilate.

One blogger added:

How long until they demand separate entrances to the food pantry for men and women and separate entrances for Muslims who don’t want to see any Christmas or holiday food or decorations?

The state of Maine has also been crushed by Somalis that Obama has forced upon them. The Governor of Maine, Paul LePage has valiantly been trying to cut off cash aid to Somalis – nearly all of whom are on welfare – since Obama has purposely dumped thousands of them in Lewiston and Portland.

America got Black Hawk Down and 18 dead Americans. Somalis got 90,000+ “asylum” slots in America, free housing, Sharia-compliant facilities, and a lifetime of welfare. How do you say “chumps” in Somali?
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