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May 27, 2015 23:50:23   #
Char4Dew wrote:
I do not believe that it is always a choice No. It is a chemistry that happens, BORN with it.

You may want to believe that it is some internal force that causes that behavior, but there is no known process for it, other than the condition of the mind. Any behavior is controlled by the experience, emotions, information, and desire, there is no inherited propensity for any of those chosen behaviors. As soon as you mentally condition yourself to believe that it is all right, you have battered down the natural barrier for it. But, just as you can substitute saccharin for sugar, it is not the same thing. It is just an imitation.
Taste is all in the mind, even though other parts of the body transmit the signal to it. It takes the mind to accept or reject it. Some people do not like broccoli, but they condition themselves to like it eventually. It is a matter of will.



YES I do agree in some cases they can choose when the attraction goes both ways.
As for the Childs mind I hope that no family engages in open sexual behavior,
so I imagine that the child innocence would not start to wonder if this is wrong.
The conditioning can be as clean cut, respectful, and humane with two loving parents.
You may believe that, but I cannot see where the exposure to only one viewpoint for the child will get the full spectrum of human life when only exposed to one side of it.

Sure love is there, but it is not fully beneficial. If all you see is dark shadows, how will you know what light is? Children need the full spectrum of human response. Single sex entanglements are too one sided, and are bound to produce a warped idea of true sexual cohesion. You cannot paint a full picture of it with only one color.


Yes I would rather a child have a heterosexual family.
But when there are no more orphans out there then I will say lets think about this topic.

Why are there orphans? Why are there abortions? Why are there wars? why are there accidents? Why are there suicides, why is there disease. Why are there fires, and floods, and storms? None of these catastrophes demand the institution of wrong thinking as a solution. I am not saying that homosexuals do not want love, everyone deserves love in their life. God is Love. Agape love is good, filial love is good.
but perverted love is not realy love.


NOW I say Love is Love.
I do not believe that it is always a choice No. It... (show quote)
No! God is Love!
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May 27, 2015 22:27:50   #
bdamage wrote:
Is it stupid for atheists to try and rid the world of Jesus when they say He does not exist? Do they not realize that they are showing the world how ignorant they are?


Just a question, if they believe He does not exist, why are they making such a fuss about it. Do they think that NOTHING works better than a loving God? Next they will be boycotting sugar as not sweet. How would they know anyway taste is a function of the brain.
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May 27, 2015 22:19:43   #
Char4Dew wrote:
Does it interfere with your life if a child that needs adoption ends up adopted by 2 loving people:?:
IF SO HOW :?:
I think not....


you think not, because you are already thinking perversely. Let turn your question around to ask you how does it benefit a child to be adopted by dope addicts, or alcoholics? If they are going to be teaching the child wrong behavior, it is a criminal act. In fact it is child abuse. Why would you want to see someone taught something that has no social good? Now if the professed homosexual, or drunk, or thief, or murderer, gives that life style up, and concentrates on the child's welfare teaching only acceptable moral principles, their is nothing wrong with it But do you risk children to be put into an environment that can imprint on their mind wrong actions as good. But tell me would you trust a known child abuser with your child? What good could come of it?

It may not interfere with my life personally, except in the degradation of society in general. Why are we so intent on ending smoking, that is destroying peoples health, and want to ignore any other detrimental behavior. Drugs, also are in the same category. Do you not think that all these behaviors are chosen by the perpetrator? They are not born that way. neither are homosexuals. They choose to be that way, and can choose not to be also,
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May 27, 2015 13:31:51   #
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
I mentioned I was playing Devil's Advocate, right.

But I fail to see a distinction between purpose and meaning. For a species that evolved to use intelligence, emotions (and faith) to productively control his environment, instead of evolving physically to respond to the environment.


Nothing happens without a purpose. You can not even breath without the purpose of life It is built into the human system. Even homosexuality has a purpose, selfish pleasure. There is no redeeming social value to it.

Without a purpose, there is no direction. Meaning comes in the fulfillment of purpose. If you have no reason for something, it is meaningless. It is just vanity. Vanity can kill you.
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May 27, 2015 13:25:13   #
Char4Dew wrote:
I would not have any kids in these times anyway. And many think this way; they could never have a society that we had growing up.
The government and the decay in this country and the world was never produced by the gays. NEVER.
You keep your pea brain. NO THANKS. Bye.
I will keep appreciating people for who they are not for your and the likes of you stupid judgments of them
Again the oldest bible does not condemn them. <THE END>

I never said that the Gays cause trouble by themselves, but they do not contribute anything either. Why do we have kids? It is because we are designed to have kids. If you do not wish kids, that is fine, but that is a choice, not a design element. You have the right to choose your lifestyle, no problem with that, but you do not have the right to force it on anyone else. Do as you wish with your life, but do not interfere with mine. DO YOU UNDERSTAND??? I am not telling you to change your own way of living, live it up as you desire, but don't force it on me. I am not telling you that you have to produce more people, just that that is the natural part of life. If you want to go deep sea diving, don't expect me to make it easier for you to do so, You are on your own.

Just because I do not want to incorporate special treatments into my life, you do not want to have me tell you what you can do or not do. to each his own, and leave ma alone.
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May 24, 2015 10:42:02   #
Char4Dew wrote:
Just because some bullies have judgment does not make it a workable solution.
Nowhere in my scripture does God have say anything malice to say, neither do I
I already posted what it said in the Old Testament.

They do contribute, largely in the creative arena, in the world of sports, design, literature, acting, film, music, television, movies, science, art, architecture, theater and on and on and on. Now, granted, plenty of People like you, are narrow minded. Just when it seems like people are finally becoming more fair-minded, empathetic and in favor of full equality, there's some knuckle-dragging homophobe waiting in the wings to bash, that sure takes a lot of energy, living a life where you constantly have to bash and degrade other people.Enough said.
NO I am never jumping on that vib at all....
Just because some bullies have judgment does not m... (show quote)


Yes, they do contribute, but it is not any more than any other single person, but they do not contribute to the notion of a common society. Their uncommon contributions can be honored and acknowledged, but not as a part of the hetrosexual society. They should organize themselves, charter themselves as an independent society group, get legally sanctioned recognition of themselves as a coherent group, and live and work as those society members without mucking up normal society. Let's face it, it is not normal to want to go through life in that fashion. If it were the normal status, we would not have both male and female as the recognized basic family unit. Why do you believe are two sexes in the first place. Just for variety? The purpose is to procreate and increase the population. For that quest, there are special rules of behavior. agreed upon by society in general. It is not homophobia, it is just common sense. You cannot mix the two and have any fixed strength. Let the homosexuals exist as a separate community with whatever rules they want, but stay out of trying to modify and change what has been socially accepted for thousands of years. And meets the basic criteria of people multiplication.

You can join whatever society you wish, but keep them separate or they get confused and unmanageable. Is that what you want? Chaos?
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May 24, 2015 10:22:36   #
Char4Dew wrote:
Have you been to Amish country :?: there are generation of polygamists there KA Mormons.


The Amish, for some strange reason, make their own rules for their society. they do not try to force their beliefs on anyone else. This is as it should be. If you want to live outside of the generally accepted rules of society, you have to create your own society, and live within it. The Amish claim to be a religious order, much like the quakers. This country will honor that distinction, but the Amish must contain their behavior by themselves, As long as they stay independent of the general social order of the rest of the country, no one interferes. However, when they mingle with those outside of their organization, they must conform to those rules. they cannot claim special treatment.
Homosexuals can do the same thing if they desire, and no one will hassle or disturb them without provocation. Think separate but equal, and no one will mind, But to try to force a blend of good and bad, (inferred), is just a form of legal bullying, and should not be permitted.
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May 24, 2015 01:18:32   #
Char4Dew wrote:
I see that this is your opinion. This is far from fact.
NO I do not accept that. and hope that gays will continue to have a full life as they now do....
I will continue to see that Gay people are people and that sadly they are judged by narrow minded people.


what "fact" are you hanging on to that makes any of my rebuttal outside of your deluded thrust for interference in the traditional concept of marriage. Do you really believe that the homosexual life style has any value to society? If so what is it?
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May 24, 2015 01:18:31   #
Char4Dew wrote:
I see that this is your opinion. This is far from fact.
NO I do not accept that. and hope that gays will continue to have a full life as they now do....
I will continue to see that Gay people are people and that sadly they are judged by narrow minded people.


what "fact" are you hanging on to that makes any of my rebuttal outside of your deluded thrust for interference in the traditional concept of marriage. Do you really believe that the homosexual life style has any value to society? If so what is it?
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May 24, 2015 01:13:25   #
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here. (I agree---life would be incomplete without a knowledge of God).

Does the "living" of it give meaning to life itself?


Life without purpose has no meaning, You can not have life without purpose. You may not know the purpose, but that is just your individual ignorance. Purpose is alway the foundation of life. Just because you do not know your purpose, does not prevent your life from continuing without your cognizant involvement. All living things have a design purpose. You cannot change the design purpose, you can only interfere with it, and delay it to the point that you thwart that purpose, and it becomes meaningless. In which case it dies out and has served not any purpose.
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May 24, 2015 00:54:37   #
Char4Dew wrote:
I see that this is your opinion. This is far from fact.
NO I do not accept that. and hope that gays will continue to have a full life as they now do....
I will continue to see that Gay people are people and that sadly they are judged by narrow minded people.


So you consider the narrow mindedness of Gays more important than normal citizens. what so is the madness in that. Gays are a blight on society, They may be loving people, but the actions are not conducive to harmony of purpose. We want them to have a good life, but not at the expense of any other path to a good life. Gays can probably contribute to society, but only in a limited way. Why do you want to interfere with what has been working for so long without rancor for the sake of notoriety. I make no sense to distort a good and positive thing with a negative thing. Let them have the singular path separate but equal. Why would you want to interfere with a positive path of society with a negative and degrading intrusion.

You are too narrow minded to see the harm this intrusion is making on society. Marriage is a hetrosexual institution, it is not to be distorted by narrow and delusional homosexuals.
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May 22, 2015 22:20:37   #
Char4Dew wrote:
It is not asking for extra anything at all.
ARE YOU allowed to get married::
ARE YOU allowed to inherit your living quarters if your mate was to pass?
ARE YOU allowed to enjoy joint tax returns?
That is all they want same thing you have.
Don’t BS this situation to fit into you prejudice mind.
EQUAL RIGHTS.


Marriage is between a man and a woman, what you want to do is distort the term marriage to fit an unnatural union. If you want the same conditions that are given to people that are supporting and increasing the population of the country, figure out how you are going to do that without reproductive possibilities. we need new citizens to increase the value and wealth of the country. Homosexuals do not add anything for the future, They are present persons only. Now new children to support our society. When childless couples die, that is the end of their contribution. Children are the necessary for society to grow, defend, and innovate.

Now having said that, you can form a loving partnership with all the present privileges that exist in a joined partnership, it just does not need to be called marriage. Why is using the term marriage so important when you do not and cannot fulfill the requirements of marriage to society?

You can have equal rights under a new term, just don't muck up the honorable term and essence of marriage if you cannot fulfill the requirements of it. Figure out a different term than marriage and campaign for the same equality of that term to the configuration, but do not imply that homosexual partnerships can fulfill the basic reason for marriage is to legitimize children, and provide a safe and acknowledged relationship for that nugget of society.

You can have all the privileges except parenthood , and any inference in that realm of marriage and the family. That is the big objection, homosexual unions can not and do not have skin in the game. They have no children that can carry on the name and the characteristics of the original parents. They want all the privileges without the problems of raising children.
It is a purely selfish pursuit, wanting the privileges of society without having to support it with the hard work of producing caring and producing new citizens.

Homosexuals want special privileges without the heart ache of producing new citizens to support the society. We need new workers, citizens, warriors, people that will work to improve society homosexual couples do not add anything for the future. It is once and done. Fine enjoy you life, but do not mess up the thrust of citizenship but wanting special privileges. If you are not going to support the influx of any new citizens to the society, you have no urge to improve it except for your own selfish contribution. This is the main problem with the definition of equal rights. Homosexuals want all the privileges, but don't want to have to contribute to the problems of improving it, by generating new citizens.

And adopting children should not be permitted, because they then get a distorted experience of true family life. Unless you experience it, you cannot teach it.
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May 22, 2015 13:10:11   #
Char4Dew wrote:
I am not in agreement with you at all.
They are not asking for special, they are asking for Equal.
If all they want is equal treatment, they can get it without flaunting their unique special status in the face of normality. They want universal recognition of their status. If they only wanted equal treatment, they should seek it in the same manner that anyone else seeks it. But by putting extended demands on any request is just antagonistic bullying.

You are asking to shun them which is not equal.
I do not say to shun them, I say to let them request what they want under the same guidelines as everyone else. Asking for special treatment requires extra service. If the service they want is not available in an ordinary establishment, they need to go to a specialized forum, and not expect anyone to bend over backwards to accommodate them.
As an example so you can understand it. If I wanted to take an educational course in Physics at a Business College, it would not make sense to sue them for not accommodating my desires. I am just in the wrong place to ask for it. The school does not have to put in a course just because I want it. That is asking for SPECIAL treatment.


If you can get married so can they.
I do not care if they want to cohabit together, but I do care about the disingenuous action of defining their relationship as marriage. Redefining the term. Let them merge as a lawful partnership or social entity of another name allowing the same privileges but reserving the term marriage as the union of God believing couples. To define homosexual unions as marriage is a stretch to the term, Marriage is for the main purpose of procreation and can only be acquired by union of male and female that are equipped for that purpose. It is the denigration of an honorable state of normal family life that is the causing the ruckus. Let marriage remain as it always has and adopt another term for homosexual arrangements. Then everyone should be satisfied.


If you can inherit your significant others home, so can they
If you can go out in public without being stoned so ca they
That is human rights not special treatment.
I am not in agreement with you at all. br They are... (show quote)

no problem with those attributes of their social arrangement, but to STEAL the honored and respectful term of marriage for that arrangement is trying to induce unwarranted honor that does not belong to that coupling. Let all people have the same privileges, but do not try to mingle what religious people who own the term marriage with the poison of social abrasion. Visibly separate but equal social status is not the issue, it is the abrogation of the term that irks. It is like calling an Italian a wop. or a colored person a Nigger. It is an insult
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May 21, 2015 23:36:08   #
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
Here is the reality, HL:

If homosexual activity were as natural and normal as heterosexual activity, then one might expect a little heftier proportion of the population to be homosexual, perhaps, if not 50/50, then maybe even 40/60.

You see, new members of the human species must be created in order for the species to advance and evolve. An evolving species does not just conform to nature, but is necessary in order for change to occur.

Consider this: If 50% of a population is homosexual, the chances for change and evolution is GREATLY decreased. And yes, decay and stagnation WILL result.

Don't EVER try to convince me that homosexuality is natural or normal.

And by the way, as I've said elsewhere, male animals do not engage in what appears to be homosexual behavior for sexual gratification. Male animals "mount" other male animals as a show of dominance, so that a determination of the alpha male can be obtained.

Homosexuality is an aberration.
Here is the reality, HL: br br If homosexual acti... (show quote)


At least you and I agree on this issue. Well done.
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May 21, 2015 23:32:47   #
Char4Dew wrote:
I never said that any disorder or any poor behavior is OK
I say and will say it again. Live and let live.
live and let live is fine, but when they want to interrupt what you are doing for special treatment, the line must be drawn. They should not have the right to disrupt status for special treatment. Which is what they want to do,

all of us are created equal from the position of human rights
I am not referring to intelligence or economic statues,
Only to human and fair treatment... using bibles that all vary is no acceptable.
You are agreeing with me, that special treatment is not EQUAL rights. non-gays do not demand special treatment because of their status, neither should gays. If they want to live in opposition of everyone else, so be it, but they do not have the right to demand special treatment. Unless they are classified as handicapped in some way. Are they? I think not that diverse thinking is considered a handicap, If so, nearly everyone would fall into that category
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Gays have a right to love as well as a right to maintain the home should one perish.
Fine do your thing but without interruption of any one else. Gay behaviour should not be treated any differently than ethnicity. If you wish to celebrate your roots, by all means do so, but do not try to force me (with a different ethnicity or roots) to conform to your standards. Do your thing, but leave others out of the mix. If you want something from someone other than Gay, respect their attitude as they respect yours. Do not demand special or unethical treatment.

None of which is disrespectful to society.
I never said that any disorder or any poor behavio... (show quote)

All behavior that requires special treatment is disrespectful of and to society. Demanding special or unusual treatment is not respectful of society. However, special treatment can be purchased of the supplier is willing to sell. You cannot force someone to sell extra services at a standard price. If you are willing to pay the price you will probably get what you want, but if you are not willing, too bad. As the chinese used to say, no tickee, no laundry.
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