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Jan 8, 2017 07:48:37   #
Zemirah wrote:
Dave,

Repeatedly calling Jesus Christ the Antichrist and even worse is Not learned from Sacred Scripture.

It is Babel, which, of course, means confusion.

I would be delighted to see anyone authentically espouse Judaism, although of course to a believing Christian, Christianity supersedes it and all other organized religions.

Having worked in a professional capacity for a Jewish Cultural and Religious establishment for some years in the past, where all modern denominations of Judaism, Orthodox, Conservative Reform and Reconstructionism, etc., were recognized and honored, I can assure you she is practicing none of them.

My interest is the directive of Jude 3: ¨...contend for the faith.¨

1 Peter 3:15 says that believers are to make a defense "for the hope that you have."

"Demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ,” as Paul recorded (2 Corinthians 10:5). Paul practiced what he preached; in fact, defending the faith was his regular activity (Philippians 1:7).

He refers to apologetics as an aspect of his mission in the same passage (v.16). He also made apologetics a requirement for church leadership in Titus 1:9. Jude, an apostle of Jesus, wrote that "although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints” (v.3).

The modern interpretation of tolerance Is Not the tolerance of respecting everyone´s freedom of religion, as it once was.

It now mandates accepting all beliefs, no matter in what, as equally valid.

God´s Word doesn´t allow me to go there.
Dave, br br Repeatedly calling Jesus Christ the A... (show quote)


Sir,

Thank you and may God bless you!

Sue please listen up!

The man knows what he is talking about and in my heart of hearts is being sincere compassionate and loving in his response.

He also happens to be spot on in his theology.

You need to go back to a real Rabbi and retrain.
If your current Rabbi is giving these teachings then you really do need to go elsewhere for advice and when you find that other teacher don't be affraid to question him or her with boldness even then.

Too much is at stake for your own personal salvation.

Dave
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Jan 8, 2017 03:05:13   #
Sue,

The above from Zemrah is a very complete and caring response on our Christian faith.

And I'm sure this author like me respects your adopted Judeo faith and teachings.

But I read somewhere in your tweets either today or yesterday making analogies to Jesus and the devils, Antichrist and so on and I'm more than just a little concerned and confused on what you might have really meant to say.

In your studies I'm sure you're aware that any reference to Christ works being attributed to the devil is sinning against the Holly Spirit and therefore an unforgivable sin and one of the only that is. Christ testified that he will accept any other transgressions against himself but that is not one of them.

You and I can have friendly disagreements about who the Messiah really is but please be careful with where you are going on the evilday stuff.

OK?

As a friend I beg of you to be careful and please clarify what you really meant.

If someone ticked you off where you said something close to that to make a strong counter point then let's all discuss and get it out in the open.

But because I love you as a sister please don't go there.

Dave
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Jan 7, 2017 15:29:53   #
susanblange wrote:
I do not believe in a magical fruit or a talking snake. The snake was part of Adam's anatomy. Eve was created from a rib, which is also a phallic symbol. In Genesis 3:17, God says to Adam, "...Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife..." This was the serpent.


A rib or a helical DNA strand.
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Jan 7, 2017 14:35:32   #
Armageddun wrote:
A very good reply.


http://www.gospeltruth.net/1868_75Independent/731204_conscience.htm

Mike check out above article published by the author of America's Second Great Awakening 1825 and published a year before he died in 1874.

As relavant today as it was back then.

Dave
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Jan 6, 2017 23:24:00   #
susanblange wrote:
Yes. God told Adam not to eat from the Tree of Knowledge before Eve was created. Genesis 2:16-17. Eve heard this from Adam and he comes back to Eve and asks, "Did God say?". Then Adam explains to Eve that there was a little bit more to it and you won't die from disobedience. Eve saw that the tree was desired to "make one wise", so she and Adam partook together but Eve was the only one who gained wisdom from knowledge. Not only was Eve Adam's wife, she was also his daughter. What A&E did was a sexual act and the knowledge was carnal. The serpent was part of Adam's anatomy, and keep in mind A&E were naked. After their sin, a curse was put on both Adam and the serpent. This is the main reason for circumcision. If there is such a thing as "original sin", only males inherit it. The ground was also cursed because of Adam's sin and that is why Cain's offering was not acceptable to God. Adam also tried to hide his sin, but Eve confessed it. Adam became doomed to death and Eve to eternal life. Eve was the Tree of Life, "Eve" means "living". Adam was the Tree of Knowledge.
Yes. God told Adam not to eat from the Tree of Kno... (show quote)


I'm seeing Eve saying "or touch it" which God never said to Adam (Hebrew for man or male). Instead I'm envisioning the scenario without reading as much into it as follows:

One day Adam and Eve go for a walk.

As they pass the tree of knowledge of good and evil Eve starts to reach out to grab a fruit from same.

Adam see her and yells "Don't touch that!"

Startled she looks at him quizzically.

Adam explains. "If you eat it you die."

She laughs "Oh OK hun!"

They move on.

***

Later the crafty sepent...

(Catch my drift?)

Now Morgan and Sue let's take a vote.

Adam is:

A) Serpent
B) Man
C) Woman
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Jan 6, 2017 21:29:12   #
Morgan wrote:
If Adam was Satan, than it was he who tempted Eve with the apple, just curious?


Sorry to interrupt:

Sue and Morgan on page 17 the last page I wrote something on the rebirth of Israel that I'm requesting you both to please review.

Thanks

Now I'll return the conversation back to you and get out of your way.
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Jan 6, 2017 20:50:44   #
Betta wrote:
A person who does not believe the whole bible knows what they're is talking about? Please. You either believe ALL of it or you believe none if it. The road is straight and narrow, not wide and crooked. There is NO wiggle room. One thing I find fascinating about folks who claim to be believers is that in the next breath they call God a liar. That is demonic.


Correction to what I wrote. Earlier about the rebirth of Israel is not a factor of four times but seven given in Leviticus 26:18. "And after this, if you do not obey me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins"

So the period of 360 years of further punishment declared by Ezekiel 4:3-6 was multiplied by seven times.

Sorry for error. Anyway the algorithm predicting Israel's rebirth is as follows:

360 years *7=2,520 years biblical years.

Converted to callendar years =2,483.8

Babylonian captivity ended in the spring of 536 B.C.

So 536-2,483.8=1,947.4

To adjust for the fact there was no year zero between 1 B.C. and A.D. 1...

1+ 1,947.4. =. 1948 - May 15

Per Grant R Jeffrey....The Signature of God...Page 169

"On the afternoon of May 14, 1948, the Jews proclaimed the independence of the reborn state of Israel. As an old rabbi blew on the traditional shofar...At midnight, as May 15, 1948 began, the British Mandate officially ended and Israel became an independent nation."

So there ladies and gentlemen you have the rest of the story. Nik nuk nuk!
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Jan 6, 2017 13:58:50   #
mwdegutis wrote:
I would say that that you're someone who has been on this site awhile that has a new persona named tradexpertbuysell.


Aw you must be into causal statistics like I am😂
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Jan 6, 2017 13:56:40   #
padremike wrote:
Last I heard there was to be financial settlements.


O that doesn't sound good or maybe that was what she was really after...But I'll give them both a break...
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Jan 6, 2017 13:51:52   #
mwdegutis wrote:
How, pray tell, does this prove the flood?


Well lol lol lol lol lol if someone were to smack one in his head and it was caught on video just shy of showing the actual perpetrator but we could clearly see his head jerk slightly less than twenty degrees to the south putting Polaris in Draco's place...

What would you say?
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Jan 6, 2017 13:40:03   #
padremike wrote:
Wait a second, I can physically observe creation with all my senses. And I distinctly remember Bill Cosby, before he was a pervert, giving a very detailed description of Noah building the ark 30 or 40 years ago. (I hope it wasn't longer ago than that.)


Very funny

Was Cosby just aquited recently?

I don't know for sure but I think he was...
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Jan 6, 2017 13:15:22   #
mwdegutis wrote:
Creation hasn't been proven, the story of Noah's Ark hasn't been proven, etc.


No but intelligent design is back on the table and if you check out volume 2 of Burnham's Celestial Handbook page 862 you will read:

"The most famous and often-mentioned fact about Thuban (a double star in the constellation Draco, II: the Dragon) is that it was the Pole some 4800 years ago"

Huuum.....Click click..click...Click...

OMG right around the time of the flood.

Nah! Couldn't be...Could it?!

Check it out...

And BCH isn't exactly a Bible thumping publication either

But to set the record straight on Jesus so you won't think I'm picking on you... Jewish historian Josephus, who lived in the time of Christ testified tenitively to Christ as a "righteous man...If I am allowed to call him so"...Check that out also and Luke's chapter is actually a legal transcript under testimony that would have been held as perjury in the day it was written...But the lazy administrators apparently failed to report. So that has to stand as a historic document along with the Gospel accounts which by definition are also sworn statements of sorts that would also then have to be included in the history of Christ.

In fact, one authority (IE: converted Christian lawyer Lee Strobel) comments that there are probably more reliable accounts of his life and ministry and death; as there were for the life and death of Julius Caesar.
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Jan 6, 2017 07:05:01   #
Zemirah wrote:
The gibberish you are spouting is the Anglo-Israelism made infamous by the cultist, Herbert W. Armstrong, who deceived thousands with his false teachings.


Your quoting Armstrong but I'm quoting another independent source.

But this is all irrelevant since I went back to the Hebrew language and verified for myself.

And the root words are as these other sources claim even if both sources had some kind of ax to grind.

But thanks for your input. Check it out for yourself using the language itself for the ultimate proof.
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Jan 5, 2017 20:13:35   #
Sue,

That private message I sent you today mathematically underscores the very first statement of your article.

But I'm asking you to restrain yourself until I or we get it reviewed and published.

It's tempting to use your readers here for feedback but I want to be sure of my research since although all the numbers are in after two years of independent research it is now still only in the rough draft phase.

It would appear that what is showing is a signature in the Word with a certain energy constant, scriptural statements, associated geometric and mathematics tying into a three way interlocking recognizable pattern with low probability of being random.

It seem to tie in with the energy, matter and Information patterns of DNA research that puts intelligent forces back on the table of scientific philosophers inquiry of our origins.

At least that's what it appears is starting to take shape: and reminds me of the research of Michael Behe, Stephen C. Meyer etal; in the last fifteen years of research.

My apologies to your readers that I cannot be more specific at this point in time.

But we will keep you posted...

Dave
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Jan 5, 2017 19:29:33   #
susanblange wrote:
God is Energy and the forces in nature. Gravitation, Electromagnetism, and the Nuclear forces. Daniel 11:38 "But in his estate shall he honor the God of forces..." Elohim is the earliest word for God, and it is a majestic plural. But there is only one God. Deuteronomy 6:4. "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord". Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only change form. It is eternal. It is also everywhere at the same time, and it is omnipotent. Energy is the husband of the Messiah who is the Lord incarnate and they are one flesh. Genesis 2:24. "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh". Isaiah 54:5-6 "For thy Maker is thine husband...For the Lord hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth..." Our sun/son is the source of Energy for the Universe. Psalm 19:4-5 "...in them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun. Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber..."
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