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Feb 4, 2022 20:52:00   #
Liberty Tree wrote:
Democrats are showing their frenzied desperation. They have nothing to run on but hate.


Really? Hoho.
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Feb 4, 2022 18:05:39   #
And on every Sunday for six decades, and so many of the days in between. You can't recognize it from a gait. Or a face. And it comes in various sizes, even from children. Let's keep it simple: Love! It is a verb, action. It is not anything you can really find in Creeds or Articles of Faith. That is just ink and paper, not flesh and blood. No heart can be found. And the Bible teaches us nothing on the matter. Spirit and grace in fully accepting Christ--this moment!--is the only true tutor and guide. Our beliefs can be barriers, even walls, between us and the innermost Truth of being as Christ was in this world.

Did Jesus need a list of Commandments to follow and be a sacrifice? Of course not. You don't either. Whatever is to be found about Truth is not really in the Bible but in our hearts...once we surrender to the power of Grace that is God's love to share with All. Again, action! Sermons, though mere words, have an important role to play, as does Bible study. Yet not nearly as important as hugging, say, a homosexual. "Love never fails," according to 1 Corinthians. Let God do his job and you do yours--Love! Never rely on your own understanding of right and wrong. Though the results may appear as if you did the proper thing, it always fails love. You are likely interfering with His plan. Let God be in control, okay?
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Feb 4, 2022 15:52:04   #
The Tennessean
Buzz Thomas
Fri, February 4, 2022, 4:01 AM

Coups d’etat come in different flavors. There’s the classic vanilla, where the president is assassinated and the military takes over as we saw recently in Haiti. But there are other ways to slice the pickle.

You cheat. Bend the rules. Bribe the refs. So that even though your side should lose, you win.

Everybody likes to win. And nobody likes to cheat. I should say nobody wants to cheat. We’d all prefer to win without dealing off the bottom of the deck. That way you preserve your money and your dignity, too.

But if you can convince yourself that the ends justify the means — that losing would be catastrophic to the higher good — you just might do it.

But cheating in a national election is no easy task. Each state or province has its own rules about when and how one can vote, how the votes are counted and who confirms the winner.

We should all know by now that the U.S. is not a true democracy. If it were, the Republican Party would have won only one presidential election since 1988. Instead — thanks to the Electoral College — it has won three. But now, the GOP’s chances of winning, even with the Electoral College, have diminished.

So what should the party do? One would hope what political parties have always done. Change the message. Energize the base. Enlarge the tent.

But what’s happening instead is this: In key battleground states still under GOP control such as Georgia, Texas and Arizona, the party is removing the civil servants who confirm who has won and replacing them with party loyalists. I am not making this up. They are replacing the refs with their own players. That way if the other side wins, they can site some evidence of voter fraud — there’s always some small error in a statewide election — and throw out the results. And because the ultimate power to select delegates to the Electoral College belongs to the state legislatures, they can simply send an alternative slate of delegates who will vote the party line.

I feel half-crazy even writing these words, but this is exactly what is going on right now. Not in Egypt or El Salvador. In America.

The point of a coup is to overturn the lawful government and replace it with one of the insurrectionists’ choosing. President Donald Trump’s supporters tried this the old-fashioned way on Jan. 6, 2021, and failed. Now they’re doing it a new way. A smarter and more sinister way.

If you’re like me, you may have thought that the Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol was carried out by fringe elements and far-right extremists. It wasn’t. We now know from the more than 700 people who have been charged and arrested that the vast majority of insurrectionists were mainstream Republicans. Many college-educated and white-collar workers. Many with their own businesses.

The common denominator was a deeply held belief that the 2020 presidential election was stolen (a belief shared by the majority of registered Republicans despite a battalion of GOP judges ruling otherwise) and a willingness to use all means necessary to right that wrong.

If you’re willing to take up arms against your own government, it’s a baby step to cheat in order to win the next election.


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That’s the state of our union in 2022 whatever President Joe Biden has to say about it to Congress in his State of the Union Address on March 1. And you can forget counting on good Christians like Gov. Bill Lee or U.S. Sens. Bill Hagerty and Marsha Blackburn to do anything about it. They seem devilishly delighted by the prospects of a game where their side cannot lose.

Buzz Thomas is a retired minister and attorney, and the former interim superintendent of Knox County public schools.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/next-coup-being-attempted-more-110139433.html
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Feb 4, 2022 14:47:36   #
Esquire
Jack Holmes
Fri, February 4, 2022, 10:34 AM

Liz Cheney was long ago excommunicated by the Wyoming Republican Party for the crime of suggesting that maybe January 6 was a bit of a problem. Her counterpart among the House Republican caucus's Lone Dissenters, Adam Kinzinger, was censured by an Illinois county Republican group in February 2021, less than a month after those tourists toured the Capitol like the Visigoths toured Rome.

And now both Cheney and Kinzinger are turning to face the wrath of the national Republican Party, which took less than a year to gather itself fully behind the notion that January 6 was no big deal and also all the really bad shit was done by antifa, or whatever. Stop asking questions, shut up.

The truly remarkable stuff lies in the nature of this draft resolution from the Republican National Committee intending to censure the two, who again have merely joined Democrats in saying that a president should not try to seize a second term by force in contravention of the expressed will of the American people.

The resolution is reportedly the work of David Bossie, a committeeman with a storied ratfucking career who was Donald Trump's deputy campaign manager in 2016, and Ronna Romney McDaniel, the RNC chair who has dropped her middle name in the last few years as it went from an asset to an albatross within Republican politics. Yes, McDaniel is Senator Mitt Romney's niece, which makes her uncle's statement on the resolution Friday all the more striking:

Shame falls on a party that would censure persons of conscience, who seek truth in the face of vitriol. Honor attaches to Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger for seeking truth even when doing so comes at great personal cost.

You hate to see an autogolpe tear a family apart.

But the text of the draft resolution itself is worth taking a gander at, if only because it points towards the sorry state of the Republican Party at this juncture. It is such a stream of grievance and conspiratorial nonsense that one can't help but wonder if it was dictated by one person in particular.

WHEREAS, The primary mission of the Republican Party is to elect Republicans who support the United States Constitution and share our values;

WHEREAS, The Biden Administration and Democrats in Congress have embarked on a systematic effort to replace liberty with socialism; eliminate border security in favor of lawless, open borders; create record inflation designed to steal the American dream from our children and grandchildren; neuter our national defense and a peace through strength foreign policy; replace President Trump’s “Operation Warp Speed” with incompetence and illegal mandates; and destroy America’s economy with the Green New Deal.

Sorry, what does this have to do with January 6? Ah, it's an explicit detailing of the reactionary justification: the people who won the election are bad, so we are justified in doing anything to take power back from them. Nothing else matters. When well-known radical socialist Joe Biden is purposefully creating inflation—don't think about it too hard—you might just have to shitcan the whole American experiment to stop him. Or at least refuse to acknowledge previous forays into that territory in order to give yourself a better chance of winning back the House.

WHEREAS, Winning back the majority in Congress, including the United States House of Representatives, in 2022 must be the primary goal of the House Republican Conference (“Conference”) and requires all Republicans working together to accomplish the same...

WHEREAS, The Conference must not be sabotaged by Representatives Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger who have demonstrated, with actions and words, that they support Democrat efforts to destroy President Trump more than they support winning back a Republican majority in 2022;

"Sabotage" and "destroy" are really the key words here, even if the resolution goes on to lay out the boilerplate right-wing complaints about the January 6 committee. (Also, the telltale use of "Democrat" as an adjective, a pure symptom of right-wing talk-radio brainworms.) What matters is that the committee is bad for Trump, which he is seeking to make synonymous with "bad for the Republican Party." That Republicans are now looking to go on record with their belief that a full accounting of the events of January 6 is bad for their party ought to tell its own story.

But then we reach the thrilling crescendo:

WHEREAS, Representatives Cheney and Kinzinger are participating in a Democrat-led persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse, and they are both utilizing their past professed political affiliation to mask Democrat abuse of prosecutorial power for partisan purposes, therefore, be it

RESOLVED, That the Republican National Committee hereby formally censures Representatives Liz Cheney of Wyoming and Adam Kinzinger of Illinois and shall immediately cease any and all support of them as members of the Republican Party...

Hold up a second: January 6 was just ordinary citizens engaging in some discourse? That is enlightening to know. Whomst among us has not chanted about lynching the sitting Vice President of the United States while engaging in a bit of discourse? When discussing whether the Federal Reserve should raise interest rates to combat inflation, I routinely find myself bear-spraying cops and smearing shit in the halls of the national legislature.

This lines up with Donald Trump's new line that the street thugs of January 6 were actually Very Fine People he intends to pardon, the message being that other people who use lawlessness to advance his political ambitions will be similarly rewarded. Meanwhile, the committee has spent a lot of its time interviewing high-powered politicos, not "ordinary citizens," and nobody stays ordinary for long when they attempt to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power in the goddamned United States of America.

These people had the unmitigated gall to kick off this little resolution with talk of the United States Constitution. They wipe their ass with the Constitution. If it's not useful to their ends, it's an inconvenience. Anyone who votes in favor of this should be ostracized from polite society for the rest of their lives. But shame is dead. Shamelessness is a superpower. They'll rake in the donations, including from the same corporations who bravely abstained on principle for a few months, and probably win back control of Congress.

At which point these Democrat attempts to persecute ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse will be finished for good. So, too, will Kinzinger and Cheney, along with any realistic hope that one of our two major political parties will pull itself back from the authoritarian abyss.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/text-republican-censure-liz-cheney-173400849.html
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Feb 4, 2022 14:32:21   #
The Hill

Just a fact. Deal with it...if you can.
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/592747-pennsylvania-senate-candidate-lt-gov-john-fetterman-calls-republicans-use-of
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Feb 4, 2022 13:59:29   #
If you dismissed this thread because it is an article in the Guardian, then take your brain on a one minute exercise and google Fox News, then Tucker Carlson, then this particular show. Viola! You are close to breaking your chains of ignorance. And Carlson will be exposed for the malevolent antagonist of democracy.
Adam Gabbatt
Fri, February 4, 2022, 12:00 AM

Tucker Carlson has been accused of promoting “antisemitic tropes” in his documentary Hungary vs Soros: The Fight for Civilization, which attacks the billionaire Democratic donor – and frequent target of antisemitic hate – George Soros.

The film, which aired last week, sees Carlson, a Fox News host with a long history of inflammatory rightwing rhetoric, travel to Hungary, where he tees up a selection of politicians and commentators to attack Soros, a wealthy philanthropist who has donated billions of dollars to Democratic causes.

Soros, who is Jewish and was born in Hungary, has been subjected to antisemitic attacks from conservatives for decades. Far-right activists and believers in the QAnon conspiracy theory have accused Soros of funding violent protests, of supporting an imagined global ring of pedophiles and of driving illegal immigration, a recurring theme in Carlson’s film.

Carlson claims in the documentary that Soros has “spent decades” waging “a kind of war, political, social and demographic war on the west”. Carlson’s narration is accompanied by black and white images and screeching, dystopian music.

“Unlike the threats from the Soviets and the Ottoman empire, the threat posed by George Soros and his nonprofit organizations is much more subtle and hard to detect,” Carlson says. Later, he claims that Soros has plotted to “oust democratically elected leaders” and “install ideologically aligned puppets”, nodding to antisemitic tropes about a global cabal which controls the world’s politics and finances.

Soros has given at least $18bn to his Open Society Foundations organization, which offers financial grants to groups around the world, and has been a key donor to Democratic politicians and causes. He has long been a target of the political right, which has projected an array of conspiracy theories about the billionaire. In 2018 a pipe bomb was delivered to Soros’s home in Bedford, about 40 miles north of New York City.

“This so-called documentary, reviewed by Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism, is nothing more than far-right propaganda at best, and at worst a dangerous antisemitic dog-whistle sure to be heard loud and clear by a large audience,” Jake Hyman, a spokesman for the ADL, said.

“Throughout the program, Carlson promotes antisemitic tropes that Soros controls world events and influences the global media, that Soros and the NGOs he funds are responsible for changing demographics in Europe, bringing in non-white immigrants and subsequently with that crime and violence to Europe.”

Hyman added: “It’s totally fair to criticize Mr Soros’ support of partisan policies or candidates, but casting a Jewish individual as some sort of puppet master who manipulates national and international events for malign purposes has the effect of mainstreaming antisemitic tropes and giving support to bona fide antisemitics and extremists who disseminate these ideas knowingly and with malice.”

In the film, Carlson explains Hungary to his audience in easily understandable terms. It’s in Europe, he says, and is “about the size of Indiana, about the population of Michigan”. Carlson adds: “Like the midwest, it’s pretty flat here.”

Hungary, Carlson goes on to claim, is “an outpost of western civilization in the middle of Europe”. But for all Carlson’s fawning over the country’s direction under Viktor Orbán, its authoritarian prime minister, Hungary has lurched into political territory that demonizes immigrants, LGBTQ individuals and other groups.

In 2018 Orbán, who came to power in 2010 and was interviewed by Carlson in Hungary last year, described refugees as “Muslim invaders”, and also said: “We must defend Hungary as it is now. We must state that we do not want to be diverse ... We do not want our own color, traditions and national culture to be mixed with those of others.”

Jonathan Greenblatt, CEO of the Anti-Defamation League, previously wrote an open letter to Lachlan Murdoch, executive chairman and CEO of Fox Corporation, which owns Fox News, after Carlson’s previous documentary Patriot Purge aired on Fox Nation in October 2021. That film sought to sanitize the January 6 insurrection, airing conspiracy theories and attempting to absolve Donald Trump’s supporters of blame. Two Fox News contributors quit the network in protest against the film.

After Soros vs Hungary aired, Greenblatt tweeted: “On the eve of #HolocaustRemembranceDay, it’s appalling to see Tucker Carlson & FOX invoke the kind of antisemitic tropes typically found in white supremacist media. There’s no excuse for this kind of fear mongering, especially in light of intensifying #antisemitism.”

The documentary aired on Fox Nation, Fox News’s sister channel, which is a streaming-only service. But Fox News promoted it, too, in a tweet, while the documentary was given an uncritical write-up on the Fox News website, complete with an embedded video of a trailer for the film.

A Fox News spokesperson pointed to remarks Carlson made in previewing the film, in which the host said, “Orban may be the only world leader who stood up to Soros directly”.

“And so we thought that was interesting enough, enough of a metaphor for the struggle that is going on globally between nationalists and people who oppose them. We thought it was worthy of our season finale documentary for our series Tucker Carlson Originals,” Carlson said.

The film does not address the decades-long antisemitic attacks on Soros, although at one point in the documentary Carlson claims that the media is quick to “claim any attack on George Soros is antisemitic”.

In a statement to the Washington Post, Laura Silber, the vice-president of Open Society, said Soros and the group “have worked for more than 30 years to support vibrant and inclusive democracies whose governments are accountable to the people they serve”.

“Mr Carlson appears to prefer authoritarian rule, state capture of media and the courts, crony corruption and rigged elections,” Silber said.

Some prominent Fox News hosts, including Carlson, have a history of making comments or advancing arguments that have been deemed antisemitic or xenophobic. In September Carlson was criticized for promulgating the “great replacement” theory about immigration. Carlson denied that he was being antisemitic.

As recently as 27 January, Holocaust Remembrance Day, Laura Ingraham displayed a mocked-up image of Soros clutching bank notes on her show, as she claimed Democrats were using “dark money” to control the Supreme Court.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/tucker-carlson-film-george-soros-070020008.html
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Feb 4, 2022 13:09:56   #
Huffpost
Ed Mazza
Fri, February 4, 2022, 2:04 AM

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Lawmakers Rip Rep. Lauren Boebert For Her Most Clueless Constitution Claim Yet
Ed Mazza
Fri, February 4, 2022, 2:04 AM·3 min read
In this article:

Lauren Boebert
American politician
Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) received a free lesson in U.S. history after posting her latest tweet about the Constitution.

“The Constitution is not evolving,” she wrote on Twitter. “To say that spits in the face of every single one of our founders.”

In reality, the framers of the Constitution not only wrote it so that it could evolve, via amendments, but began using that process almost immediately with the passage of the Bill of Rights.

At least three Democratic lawmakers pointed out the evolution of the Constitution is why women couldn’t vote when the document was written, but can today:

Eric Swalwell
@ericswalwell
If this was true, she wouldn't be able to vote.

Joaquin Castro
@JoaquinCastrotx
So you don’t think you should have the right to vote?

Ted Lieu
@tedlieu
Dear @laurenboebert: Have you read the Nineteenth Amendment?

Ray Reed
@RayReedMO
The constitution literally has an entire chapter dedicated to instructions on how to amend it.
Also, you should resign Lauren.

Just an obvious sampling of what this MAGAfied nutcase is clueless about.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/lawmakers-rip-rep-lauren-boebert-090414931.html
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Feb 2, 2022 19:01:41   #
I understand. Finally. The country they loved and believed in seems to have been hijacked and held hostage for a decade or more by a Liberal agenda. They feel ignored and forgotten, even trampled on, by the government catering to a creeping, and creepy, secular society fueled by socialists slowly eroding our Christian values and traditions, invading our schools, and undermining democracy with swarms of immigrants sucking our economy dry. But their reaction was a Pavlovian response to the Conservative Media, such as Fox News and Limbaugh, firing up the fear, hate, and cultural differences to a searing hotness. There no longer two parties; they were now the Patriots and Demons in the eye of the Right, being the former. And this was a lie.
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Feb 2, 2022 12:41:56   #
Just a tidbit to help get some to look at the context of revolt.
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Feb 2, 2022 07:53:14   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Are you saying creation is myth if it involves a religion?

The religious believe in creation, atheists believe in evolution, and they are "not at odds"?
Are you kidding?

The Kalam Cosmological Argument:

1 Whatever begins to exist, has a cause of its existence.

2 The universe began to exist.

3 Therefore, the universe had a cause for its existence.


If so, what caused the universe to exist?

Do you believe a Creator (God) exists?

If so, is there only one? Or, are there a number of Creators to choose from?

A number of religions are based on creation stories, and they do have names or titles for their creators, some involve more than one. In a number of these stories, the manner in which creation took place is truly bizarre.
The Hindu, Aborigine, Babylonian and the Chinese creation stories are especially so.

There are only three monotheistic religions, all of which arise from one source. Two of them recognize and worship the same God - Yahweh. The other has a different name for God.

If the universe was created by an infinite, eternal, divine being, there can only be one.

How do I know the Bible is not just mythology?
That the Bible originated in the mind of God makes it not only unique among all books, it is unique among all the treasures on earth. President Abraham Lincoln appropriately referred to the Bible as “the best gift God has given to man.” Indeed it is. It reveals God’s eternal plan of redeeming the fallen human race. Yet even though billions of copies of it have been distributed throughout the world, many continue to question its truth. Is the Bible a book of mythology, or is it the true, inspired Word of God? This question is of the greatest importance to every person, whether they know it or not.

Many religious texts claim to convey a divine message. The Bible, however, stands alone in that God left absolutely no room for doubt as to whether or not this is His written Word. If anyone undertakes an honest effort to examine the facts, he will find the Bible most assuredly has God’s signature all through it. The very same mouth that spoke all of creation into existence also gave us the Bible.

Unlike mythology, the Bible has a historical framework. Its characters are real people living in verifiable locations during historical events. The Bible mentions Nebuchadnezzar, Sennacherib, Cyrus, Herod, Felix, Pilate, and many other historical figures. Its history coincides with that of many nations, including the Egyptian, Hittite, Persian, Babylonian, and Roman empires. The events of the Bible take place in geographical areas such as Canaan, Syria, Egypt, Mesopotamia, and others. All this certifiable detail refutes the idea that the Bible is mere mythology.

Unlike mythology, the Bible has many confirmations in sciences such as biology, geology, astronomy, and archaeology. The field of biblical archaeology has absolutely exploded in the last century and a half, during which time hundreds of thousands of artifacts have been discovered. Just one example: at one time, skeptics used the Bible’s references to the Hittite civilization as “proof” that the Bible was a myth. There was never any such people as the “Hittites,” according to the science of the day. However, in 1876, the first of a series of discoveries was made, and now the existence of the ancient Hittite civilization is well documented. Archaeology continues to bolster the Bible’s historicity. As Dr. Henry M. Morris has remarked, “There exists today not one unquestionable find of archaeology that proves the Bible to be in error at any point.”

Unlike mythology, the Bible is written as history. Luke wrote his Gospel as “an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us . . . just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses.” Luke claims that he had “carefully investigated everything from the beginning” and so wrote “an orderly account . . . so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught” (see Luke 1:1-4). Did Luke include miracles in his account? Yes, many of them. But they were miracles verified by eyewitnesses. Two thousand years later, a skeptic might call Luke’s account a “myth,” but the burden of proof rests with the skeptic. The account itself is a carefully investigated historical document.

Unlike mythology, the Bible contains an astounding number of fulfilled prophecies. Myths do not bother with prophecy, but fully one third of the Bible is prophecy. The Bible contains over 1,800 predictions concerning more than 700 separate subjects found in over 8,300 verses. The Old Testament contains more than 300 prophecies concerning Jesus Christ alone, many with amazing specificity. Numerous prophecies have already been fulfilled, and they have come to pass precisely as foretold. The mathematical odds of someone making this number of predictions and having every one of them come to pass are light-years beyond the realm of human possibility. These miraculous prophecies could only be accomplished with the supernatural guidance of Him who sees the end from the beginning (Isaiah 46:9-10).

Unlike mythology, the Bible has transformed a countless number of lives. Yet many people allow the views of others—who have never seriously studied the Bible—to shape their own opinions. Each of us needs study it for ourselves. Put it to the test. Live by the Bible’s precepts and experience for yourself the dynamic and transforming power of this amazing Book. Apply its teachings on forgiveness and see how it can mend a broken relationship. Apply its principles of stewardship and watch your financial situation improve. Apply its teaching on faith and feel a calming presence in your heart even as you navigate through a difficult trial in your life. The Bible works. There is a reason Christians in various countries around the world risk their lives daily to expose others to the life-giving truth of this remarkable Book.

Ultimately, many who reject God and His revealed Word do so because of pride. They are so invested in their personal beliefs that they refuse to honestly weigh the evidence. To accept the Bible as true would require them to think seriously about God and their responsibility to Him. To accept the Bible as true might require a change of lifestyle. As Erwin Lutzer stated, “The truth is, few people have an open mind, especially about matters of religion. . . . Thus, perverted doctrines and prejudices are easily perpetuated from one generation to another.”

Millions die every year having bet their eternal souls that the Bible is not true, hoping against hope that it is nothing but a book of mythology, and that God does not exist. It is a risky gamble, and the stakes are very high. We urge everyone to read the Bible with an open mind; let it speak for itself, and may you find that God’s Word is truth (John 17:17).



MYTH: THE BIBLE IS UNRELIABLE AND NOT TO BE TRUSTED
Is the Bible a trustworthy document? Are the Scriptures true as written? Or are they full of myths that may have symbolic value but little if any basis in fact? People have mm been questioning the biblical record almost from its be­ginnings. Peter, for instance, encountered skepticism as he presented the gospel in the first century His claims about Je­sus were nothing but cleverly devised fables, some said—a charge he vehemently denied (2 Pet. 1:16). Today the Bible’s credibility and au­thority are still attacked. Yet how many of its critics have carefully studied its teaching? How many have even looked at the story of how it came to be written?

A careful reader will recognize that the Bible is not so much a sin­gle book as a library of 66 books. It contains a variety of literary genres: history, poetry narrative, exposi­tion, parable, and “apocalyptic” (see Rev. 10:1-10). Its many authors wrote during a period of some two thousand years using three lan­guages—Hebrew, Greek, and Ara­maic. Probably all but one were Jews.

Remarkably, the writers tell one unified story:

They offer the same understanding of God throughout. He is one God, Creator, Savior, and Judge. He is all-powerful, all-knowing, and eternal. His character is holy, good, loving, and just.

They offer the same understand­ing of human nature. People are made in God’s image and are ca­pable of great good. Yet they are also sinful and capable of great wickedness. The great need of hu­manity is to be reconciled to God and to each other.

They offer a common understand­ing of Jesus Christ. He is the Son of God. He became a real human being in order to show the world the God it could not other­wise perceive. Something deeply significant happened as a result of His death on the Cross, making it possible for God and humanity to be reconciled.

They offer the same hope. God will accomplish His purposes for His creation.

Aside from the internal evidence that Scripture is what it claims to be—the very words of God—is a growing body of external evidence that supports its reliability as a doc­ument. For example, scholars have found many contemporary sources that parallel the Scriptural record. For instance, Jesus is mentioned by two Roman writers of the first cen­tury, Tacitus (Annals 15.44) and Pliny the Younger (Letters 19.96), as well as by some Jewish writings of that period, including Josephus (Antiquities 18.3.3) and the Mishnah, a collection of traditions under compilation in Jesus’ day

Another body of research that proves invaluable for biblical stud­ies is archaeology. Countless discov­eries have helped to verify the text of Scripture, most notably the Dead Sea Scrolls. Likewise, digs through­out the Mediterranean have sup­ported biblical references to various places and people and the events of which they were a part thousands of years ago.

The more one examines the evi­dence, the more one becomes con­vinced that the Bible is not a cleverly devised tale. It has the ring of authenticity. But in that case, readers ought to pay attention to its message. That is the ultimate issue. As Mark Twain aptly put it, "it is not the things in the Bible that people can’t understand that prove troublesome, but the things they can un­derstand." Even if people are con­vinced that the Bible is true from cover to cover, will they heed its message?


Why is Christianity unique among all religions?
Are you saying creation is myth if it involves a r... (show quote)


Great arguments. Thank you. A lot of time and effort.
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Feb 2, 2022 07:50:57   #
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
Never heard it, and I lived there a long time. (There, and out 64 past Shady Grove.)


It was five miles north of Taos, a little past North Diner.
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Feb 2, 2022 07:28:58   #
I have no experiences on this topic but I thought it might be interesting. Oh wait! This may count. At 12 in CT me and a few local kids had a soapbox wooden cart and challenged to ride down this very steep paved road called "Machine Gun Hill." We probably spent twenty minutes calling each other cowards before I said to myself, "What the heck." I suddenly grabbed the death trap and started down. Not so bad for twenty feet...and then the speed got crazy. 12 stitches and a concussion. This was not so terrible, a sort of badge of courage. Then my memory chimed in with far more terrible actual life-changing decisions I gave little thought to at the time. Maybe later.

This is a trip down Memory Lane to boast about or look to exorcise the past.
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Feb 2, 2022 04:01:50   #
skyrider wrote:
Actually, for many, the claim that a bolt of lightening caused the "ooze particles" to assemble and replicate
for establishing the beginning of evolving life forms is their belief and their claim. My belief is that even if we were to assume that the particles were there, that there has not been enough time in the existence of the planet for that
to mathematically happen.


Read the article.
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Feb 2, 2022 04:01:19   #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
That's another fallacy...

Presuming that because something doesn't fit the current theory of evolution in no way supports the theory of creationism...

The fact that you seem to feel that creationism and evolution are at odds is another fallacy...

The creation of life and the evolution of life are two separate theories...

Your final fallacy is assuming that if something doesn't support current evolutionary theory, that it somehow supports the Christian God... It could just as easily support any other religious creation mythos ..

Cheers...
That's another fallacy... br br Presuming that b... (show quote)


Well articulated.
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Feb 2, 2022 04:00:18   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
"Creationists can't find a single piece of evidence to support their theory"?
WTF are you talking about?
Have you finally become an atheist?

Personally, I spend very little time discrediting evolution theories,
for the most part they aren't worth the time and effort.

5 Proofs for the Existence of God
Are there reasonable proofs for God? In December 2004 it was announced that long time British Professor and Philosopher, Anthony Flew, regarded by many as “the world’s most acclaimed atheist”, had renounced his atheism in favour of theism.

This dramatic conversion has been likened by Astrophysicist and now one of the world’s leading Cosmologists, Dr Hugh Ross, as having the same impact on the academic world as an announcement that Billy Graham had renounced Christianity would have on the Church!

One of the reasons cited by Prof. Flew was ‘the evidence.’ He admitted that for a long time the growing problem of Evolution’s inability to explain how life began, or for that matter, how anything began, led him to the inevitable conclusion that it was an inadequate answer in the face of the evidence. Then when the DNA Genome code was unraveled the evidence for Design became “undeniable.” These two pieces of evidence (1. the existence of life demanding a Life-Source, and 2. the scientific evidence of an extremely complex code in the make-up of that life- DNA) were enough for Professor Flew to renounce atheism.
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