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Dec 21, 2015 21:10:26   #
PoppaGringo wrote:
In the event you missed it, I did admit to erring when I said Cabinet rather than high-level administrative posts. You are just ticked because you can't refute the fact that Obama has appointed members pf the Muslim Brotherhood to head and administer some of his sensitive Departments.


What "high level administrative posts"? Have you actually read the details of their roles? One was appointed to attend a muslim conference in 2010--hardly a high level administrative post.
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Dec 21, 2015 20:57:23   #
PoppaGringo wrote:
If I said Cabinet, then I erred. However, they are all Administrative appointees to high-level, sensitive positions.


"If I said Cabinet"? You damn well can look up your own post and know that you claimed it was the Cabinet.

That is bullshit also (high level, sensitive positions) for most of the six, and I'll have more to say about this exact false claim you have made in addition to your admitted "error" of claiming a minimum of 12 muslims were appointed to Obama's Cabinet.

To redeem yourself, please research how many of Obama's Cabinet appointees are Jews and/or zionists and report back to us.

And, did you notice that one of those "Cabinet" members (your claim) takes the position that Israel did 9/11? You might also want to dig up all the dirt you can on this muslim to discredit his claim--or, ReDiscover911.com and see that you have 'erred' in this also.
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Dec 21, 2015 20:49:35   #
PoppaGringo wrote:
Google this:
I didn't post the whole thing due to its length, but you will find that of which you have previously been informed.

Sharia Advisors – Barack Obama's Muslim Appointees in High Security Positions
Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/04/sharia-advisers-barack-obamas-muslim-appointees/#eTdmHL1rfgt0w3vc.99


I've read the entire link, PoppaGringo. You have misinformed me and the other readers of this topic.

NONE of the named individuals are Cabinet members. It is not what you have represented--that "a minimum of 12 muslims" are on Obama's Cabinet.

Only six individuals are named. None are Cabinet members

If your knowledge of the structure of the President's Cabinet is so far from reality, how can you be certain of anything you represent as constituting a threat to the US?

What I see here is careless bigotry. Careless in the sweeping condemnation without a concern for bearing false witness. Bigotry in the blanket demonization of muslims and the Islamophobia which, frankly, is so removed from reality that you will shake in your boots when you awaken to who really control:
Federal Reserve
Hollywood
Mass Media
Congress
Supreme Court
The Executive
Wall Street
Many huge foundations
World Bank and IMF

... and realize how foolish you've been to have been taken in by the fear-mongering yellow journalism (gossip) producing unreasoning Islamophobia and unreasoning predictions of a sharia law takeover in the U.S.

You are dupes in a grand public relations chess game that is currently pitting the gullible so-called "Christians" against the muslim civilization.

I'm intrigued with one of muslims and will post further on this as I compose my thoughts in writing.

May God have mercy on your ignorance. More likely, your ignorance will lead you to great suffering.
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Dec 21, 2015 19:52:05   #
Rufus wrote:
We have seen it. Where the hell have you been, you non researching, non working liberal punk, who wants someone else to do the work for you. You need to be killed.


I just joined this group days ago. An important claim that Obama has "a minimum of 12 muslims in his Cabinet" is something I would be very interested to see proven.

Surely, someone other than you, Rufus and PoppaGringo will provide the proof in the way of reference(s). To go back and forth with this immature "I'm not telling you" stance is not a good way to establish your sincerity or intentions, is it?

And in regard to me being "non-researching" (is that a real word?), check out http://ReDiscover911.com and get back to me.

And "non-working liberal punk"? What leads you to know this? Or, are these the biggest words in your vocabulary for labeling someone who shows you that your world view is upside down?

Following the trend of your replies here, I suspect that if Jesus were here today, you would be one who leads the charge to kill the truth.

It's really close to show time, devils. Can you feel it?
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Dec 21, 2015 19:45:37   #
PoppaGringo wrote:
Reread my comment and try to ascertain its meaning. Your skills of comprehension are sorely lacking. The list of Muslims in the Administration have been provided on OPP numerous times. If you are that interested Google it, for I am not going to do it for you. You would deny it if I did and it would have been a waste of my time. Zionist's, really? Are you another of Paynes misguided acolytes?


Surely other readers here will want to see the proof that a "minimum of 12 muslims" have been appointed by Obama to his Cabinet, so why withhold the references proving your point unless you can't prove what has been claimed?

Also, have you ever seen me deny something that is proven? So, why assume automatically that I would deny such proof?

Is that your style?

I feel fortunate to have Payne as an internet friend--someone in this vast field of darkness who can see what is real and so ... an awake and courageous human being.
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Dec 21, 2015 19:35:47   #
permafrost wrote:
2th,

You print all the nonsense and not a single source or article to back any of it up..

Where do you find this stuff that so fits your dream??


First, "not a single source or article to back any of it up" is a bold-faced lie. You don't want to be known to lie, do you? Perhaps you've missed my other posts where I do provide references, and in that case, sorry I called you a liar.

Also, have you ever challenged anyone else in this topic or any other topic for references? It seems not to be custom here to back up opinions (beliefs) with references.

Here's a reference for Rabbi Dov Zakheim, missing trillions and his role in a company that produced fly-by-wire systems for Boeing aircraft:

http://www.smoking-mirrors.com/2007/08/dov-zakheim-and-missing-trillions_8010.html

http://911review.org/brad.com/batcave/Dov_Zakheim_911.html
and another
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=2875[/url]
[url]and another
http://www.activistpost.com/2012/10/romneys-top-adviser-dov-zakheim.html

Zakheim is a dual citizen (US-Israel) and a member of the group that wrote the 1999 white paper, Project for a New American Century that described need for a "new Pearl Harbor".

I can go on. I think you'll get the point if you pursue the material to determine if I'm just making things up. If you go to my profile, you'll see the posts I've made here. To save others' time (and mine), you may want to review the posts WITH REFERENCES and catch up with what I've learned.

If you are sincerely interesting in knowing about 9/11 and Israel, I have a wealth of information to share.

Incidentally, I can provide such references to ANY claim I'm making here. I'll do so as you indicate you are sincere in exploring whether I'm genuine or just muddying the waters.
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Dec 21, 2015 19:20:04   #
peter11937 wrote:
You are one despicable liar, please stop communicating with me.


Are you begging?

And, can you accept that I may post in this topic without intending the post to be directed to you?

Will you agree to stop replying and calling me a liar--as that reply in itself is an opening for me to communicate AT you?

For those lurking ... consider the analogy of a priest shaking holy water on a vampire.
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Dec 21, 2015 19:11:35   #
peter11937 wrote:
More complete garbage from a clearly anti-Semitic source and poster. A friend was killed in the 9-11 islamic attack, as was a customer of my business and a woman friend who worked at Cantor Fitz... was walking in the street toward the WTC when the plane hit killing all her friends and co-workers ar Cantor-Ftiz..... Peddle your lying propaganda elsewhere to fools like yourself.


You have no shame--repeating the same, tired "anti-Semitic" meme as if you are rebutting what I post. What you sorely desire is that people will not look into the evidence. If you beg me, I might stop posting the evidence that 9/11 is a big lie.

The daughter of a friend was fortunate to have moved out of the WTC just two weeks before 9-11 as her company also closed their doors "fortuitously" just before the big attack.

I asked my friend, whom I had not visited with since 9-11, if she knew who were behind the 9-11 conspiracy. Her reply: "Gelitin"

http://www.gelitin.net/projects/b-thing/

http://www.markdotzler.com/Mark_Dotzler/WTC_Artists.html

Who rigged the buildings with explosives? We should explore by arresting key suspects and learning more.

http://911JusticeCampaign.org

This is interesting--and perhaps a big clue:

Art students lived almost 4 years in the WTC--commissioned for their 'art project' by the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council and Larry Silverstein and living among a bunch of cardboard boxes filled with ??? on the 91st floor of the North Tower--in the crash zone of the drone that was flown by wire into the tower.

This drawing of the roof of the North Tower shows the schedule for elevators being taken out of service during the night.


What do 'art students' need with climbing gear and a schedule of when elevators are shut down? Why did these "Gelitin B Thing" art students make a book to memorialize their 'art project'?

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Dec 21, 2015 18:58:03   #
payne1000 wrote:
Napthalene or camphor.

Now let's get back to serious subjects:

1. Zionist Larry Silverstein leased the World Trade Towers only weeks before the attacks. He insured them for terrorist attacks and attempted to collect double claiming there were two attacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein

2. Silverstein collected over $4 billion in insurance payments on an investment of less than $120 million.
http://911review.com/attack/wtc/index.html

3. Silverstein normally had breakfast every day in a restaurant at the top of one of the towers. His son and daughter also worked in one of the towers. All three found reasons not to go to work on 9/11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm0PxzdHhPc

4. Silverstein said in a PBS filmed interview that he and the NYC fire dept decided to "pull" building 7 on the afternoon of 9/11. Wiring for explosive demolition takes weeks if not months. Why would the building which offices CIA, Secret Service, Guiliani's Office of Emergency Management and IRS be pre-wired for demolition? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

Silverstein refuses to identify the fire chief he claims he talked to about "pulling" the building.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

5. Silverstein was close friends with Ariel Sharon, Bibi Netanyahu and Ehud Barack.
http://iamthewitness.com/haaretzdaily-Up-in-smoke.html
http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/larry-silverstein-was-close-friends-netanyahu-sharon-barak
http://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it

6. Five Israelis were arrested after filming and celebrating the towers coming down. FBI interrogation revealed they were Mossad agents. They were deported and one of them later said in a TV interview that they were there to film the event. Therefore, they knew well ahead of time that it was going to happen. http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw

7. Hundreds of Israeli spies were rounded up and deported right after 9/11. Many of them were posing as art students in the area where the alleged hijackers were training in Florida.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbkQddEDPs0

8. $2.3 trillion was announced missing from Pentagon accounting while Bush appointee Dov Zakheim was in charge of Pentagon accounting. The missing funds were announced by Donald Rumsfeld the day before 9/11 and totally forgotten in the turmoil after 9/11.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpSBUgbxBU

9. Dov Zakheim is a Zionist and a dual U.S./Israel citizen. Before being appointed Pentagon CFO, Zakheim was CEO of SPS International, part of System Planning Corporation, a defense contractor majoring in electronic warfare technologies, including remote-controlled aircraft systems, and the notorious Flight Termination System (FTS) technology that could hijack even a hijacked plane and land or crash it wherever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXLmAiNYRoE

10. Zakheim sent 32 767s to Florida in 2001 to be converted to refueling tankers. 767s are the same type planes that hit Towers I and II.
http://911review.org/brad.com/batcave/Dov_Zakheim_911.html
http://www.dailypaul.com/153527/dov-zakheim-and-911-from-freedom-of-information-act-request

11. Many of the members of PNAC who signed the letter describing the need for a new Pearl Harbor were Zionists including Dov Zakheim, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, Elliot Abrams, Scooter Libby and William Kristol.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/nc-pilger.html

12. Zim American Israel Shipping, half owned by Israel, moved out of one of the Trade Towers two weeks before the attacks, forfeiting $50,000 on their lease.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/02/21/zim-shipping-evidence-they-knew-911-was-coming/

13. Odigo, an Israeli company with offices in one of the towers received warnings to stay away on 9/11.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/odigo-says-workers-were-warned-of-attack-1.70579

14. Jewish-controlled mainstream media covered up the fact that the towers were blown up. All MSM news censored all the news reports that were shown on TV that day reporting bombs going off in all three towers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UKfzGt6Fxk

15. General Wesley Clark says Zionist Neocons took control of America's foreign policy in a coup made possible by 9/11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oJUnG3Z6WI
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In the short time I've been here, I see the typical zionist (neocon, evil) trolls working doggedly to contain the ugly truth about 9-11.

Anyone with common sense can notice that some put in effort to forward the discussion (like you, Payne1000) Others are name-callers and work to divert attention from damning evidence that this world is not what we are led to believe.

These are times for choosing your allies wisely.

What smells are not moth balls. What smells is the tactics of amadjuster--diversion.

The consequences of rejecting what Payne1000 posts are quite grave for those of you who can't bring yourself to see the ugly truth.

Jump right in. You'll be amazed at what you learn that you've been conditioned not to even look at. Eventually, you will thank Payne1000 for working to shine light in the darkness.

We succeed to the degree that we confront and expose pure evil. Yes, I think what we face is pure evil. It's not just control of the money and governments, it is our very souls which are at stake, in my view.

You would not have shot Paul Revere. So, don't shoot the messenger.
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Dec 21, 2015 18:44:49   #
peter11937 wrote:
More anti Semitic crap. Do our friends fly airliners into the WTC , and into the Pentagon. crash an airliner into the Atlantic killing 100 Americans, and worldwide make killing attacks on over 25,000 separate occasions and more tens of thousands non fatal attacks , call our "Death to America, Death to Israel!" in the same breath, some how I do not think so. BTW, the Israeli Parliament has Muslims in it, what muslim nation has ANY Jews or Christian members in it?


Exposing criminality does not equate to anti-Semitism.

Six or more of the 19 named hijackers turned up alive--so the 19 alleged hijackers is a bogus list.

Were the planes flown by wire? Rabbi Dov Zakheim, comptroller for the Pentagon was former CEO of Systems Planning Corporation which held contracts for fly-by-wire installations on Boeing aircraft. Zakheim was lead accounting executive of the Pentagon when a total of $3.4 TRILLION DOLLARS went missing. Is it a coincidence that the part of the Pentagon that was blown up was the accounting department where accountants, budget analysts and auditors were seeking to find the missing $3.4 trillion?

Backup computers for Pentagon accounting were in the World Trade Center--also destroyed--hardly a coincidence that the computer systems for exploring the missing trillions were destroyed on 9-11.

There is nothing anti-Semitic in the above verified information. You accuse of anti-Semitism as this might stall off further inquiry and discussion.

That Israeli Parliament proposed a law making Israel the Jewish State--disenfranching all non-Jews.

Accusations of anti-Semitism are delaying tactics. Engage the evidence that 9/11 is a big lie.



The over 700 pages long so-called "Patriot Act" was waiting on the shelf for 9-11 to occur and be justified by the big lies about 9-11.

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Dec 21, 2015 18:11:52   #
saltwind 78 wrote:
I never watch anything on u-tube. It is not a reliable source of information. Americans in general are sympathetic to Israel for several good reasons:
1. It is the only country in the Middle East that shares democratic values with the US.
2. It is the only place in the Middle East that is a reliable, unconditional ally of the US.
3. Many Americans share religious beliefs with Israelis.
4.It is the only ally of America that has never asked an American soldier to shed blood for it's defense.
5, Israelis love America. I have been there and know that as a fact.
There are many other reasons.
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The above is Kool-Aid ... propaganda ... an example of the Goebbels "repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth".

You have a viewpoint--unsubstantiated except for your personal experience of having been to Israel--and we are to take what you say without question, right?

1. Israel is an apartheid state and any statements that it is a democracy is just an outright deception.

"The standard line of the country's boosters is that it's the only democracy in the Middle East. The most concise criticism is that it is an "ethnocracy," as Israeli political geographer Oren Yiftachel argues in his 2006 book of that name. An ethnocracy, he explains, is a regime promoting "the expansion of the dominant group in contested territory … while maintaining a democratic façade." Looking at this debate in light of two new books by Israeli scholars and of a faded and remarkable document that I've just read in the Israel State Archives, it seems both sides could be right."

What does the Jerusalem Post article say? http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/Is-Israel-a-true-democracy-352445

2. Reliable allies don't attack USS Liberty, bomb the King David Hotel, steal nuclear secrets, steal F-35 secrets and threaten the world with the Samson option--nuclear annihilation should their existential threat be perceived great enough. Reliable allies don't provide funding to ISIS by purchasing their smuggled oil from ISIS at 1/3 the world price per barrel.

With friends like Israel we don't need enemies. Oh, the evidence is overwhelming that Israel was a key player in doing 9-11 with cover provided by the Jewish-dominated mass media. International zionism did 9-11. http://IsraelDid911.info

3. The Talmud teaches that Jesus is in hell, boiling in his own excrement and that his mother Mary was a whore. The Talmud also teaches that it is OK for Jews to cheat gentiles and even to kill gentiles.

4. The zionist campaigns for war need not originate in requests from Israel. AIPAC, Israel's agent in the U.S. has sufficient clout to ask Uncle Sam to shed American blood for Israel.American soldiers die as whores for Israel in wars with Israel's perceived regional enemies.

How many Israeli deaths are you aware of in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars? Israel benefits from destruction of its neighbors--an agenda some refer to as "Greater Israel Project".

5. Israelis should love America. They have health care, college tuition and other benefits from $11 million per day in "foreign aid" from the U.S. taxpayers--the highest standard of living of a welfare state (welfare provided by the U.S.).

Yes, we both could go on for hours. You selling your Kool-Aid and me disproving the propaganda, point-by-point.
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Dec 21, 2015 17:47:05   #
Onelostdog wrote:
So to you a person must have in your defense a Mooslime (muslim)last name. That unfortunately is not 100% proof of anything. What about those married into a Mooslime family or Mooslime sympathizers. How about the voting history with positive Mooslime backing. No one needs a term paper or written diploma of you being an anti Semite liberal as people are intelligent enough to comprehend your words in these blog and come up with a very valid opinion of who you are and what you stand for. Unfortunately conservative America and Constitutional methodology are not listed in any of your thoughts or blogs. Why do all liberals think they are the only peoples with intelligence when reality shows just the opposite?
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So says the hayseed who names himself Onelostdog.

The list of current Cabinet members is here in this topic--no need to hurt your brain cells and look it up. Now, using your "logic" that some Cabinet members may have muslim relatives, please show the "minimum of 12 muslims" (I'll accept 12 who have muslim relatives) who Obama has appointed to his Cabinet.

I'm sure we would disagree about the definition of "intelligence".

How is exposing the criminal behavior of Jews/zionists equal to being anti-Semitic? Before you answer that, what if I exposed criminality of Tony Soprano? Would that automatically mean I'm anti-Italian?

I know the above paragraph may hurt your brain cells, so give it a go and tell me I'm anti-Italian also, you F'n retard. (using the language of your peers here)

Two statements follow. Only one is more true:

Israel did 9-11

Muslims did 9-11

And, if you can use your mouse and hit a different website, try this one which proves the first statement is more true:

http://www.takeourworldback.com/itwasntmuslims.htm The quickest way to know that 9/11 is a big lie is to study Building 7. The next is to study the finding of an exotic military-grade explosive-incendiary in four dust samples ... nano-thermite. The third is to study the Pentagon. The fourth is to look at what is claimed to be the crash scene of Flight 93.

I can go on for about 10 hours as I have done the research and find members here to be woefully uninformed.
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Dec 21, 2015 17:40:34   #
kburns50 wrote:
You didn't ask me "If the is bridge out?". Atleast Trump would tell us the bridge is out before giving us directions to nowhere....... F'n liberals will tell you everything except for what counts.


F'n retards will think they have won an argument by labeling someone with an informed view as "liberal". And, from the lack of brain power I see here, F'n retards apparently think they are "conservatives" not even knowing what all that entails.

In other words, you don't know where you are and haven't a clue--or seemingly a care as to where this ship of state is headed.

If you intended to communicate something with the Trump comment above, read it about five times and see why I can't make meaning out of what you intended to convey. Put your "bridge is out" in a context of the discussion--or sit back and learn something to avoid showing your ignorance.

I don't use "F'n" much at all--with this exception: I'm attempting to reach you at your level.


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Dec 21, 2015 17:25:30   #
Onelostdog wrote:
Coming from an anti Semite liberal with no mirrors or vision this response is so typical. Do some of your own research on BOs cabinet and appointees history and background to include voting history then you can apologize to Poppa for being such a mental looser pathetic liberal.


Whoa!

The Cabinet list I provided is the current Cabinet. No muslim names when Poppa says "minimum of 12 muslims"--with absolutely no proof.

Most of Obama's Cabinet appointments are Jews/zionists. And, if you can find even one muslim on the Cabinet, show us that name (list is above).

You have no proof that I'm an anti-Semite, nor proof that I'm a liberal. Those are just buzz words you use to reject the materials I've posted. Lazy ad hominem.
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Dec 21, 2015 15:48:39   #
PoppaGringo wrote:
I have already explained it to you, they ALWAYS vote and support the Democratic nominee, even had it been the head of CAIR.


And your research resource for this is what link? I'm especially interested to learn that Jews would support a head of CAIR in a political race--as you say is so.

Still waiting for you to identify the "minimum of 12" muslims in Obama's cabinet, Sherlock ... I mean "PoppaGringo".

How do you look at yourself in the mirror when you are so full of opinions that have no backing in evidence?

Trouble is, when the vast majority believe the media, and the media is in on the game, it is hard for people to be "in the know".

The media is the greatest enemy of all.

Wake up and smell the zionists' coffee. Turn off the tell-lie-vision "programming". Then, after doing some research, return to see between the lies.
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