Yes, I believe you're correct and agree, in the long run, it did force us to ramp up our Navy. My original comment was also in no way demeaning our efforts or purpose. With that said, I didn't care for the innuendo being stated about Roosevelt.

Yep living in his birdcage bubble.

I was speaking of Rupert Murdock and you know it, would you like me to send you his bio from wiki?

That old Yarn, no Soros is right up there with your pals, not mine, if anyone needs a life it be you.

https://youtu.be/d_mASr1djMM

You do just what the right does, your original statement was misleading, having it appear Obama had the majority longer than reality, it was really only for a short time and considering the situation we were in the GOP didn't try to help at ALL. They were too busy trying to make him a lame duck president, I remember that too.

To answer me Yes? Pray-tell what exact question are you referring to?

But next time you want to challenge what I say get it right and don't twist what I say and accuse me of something that was completely false. Maybe next time you post to me you should wait for a response before you go off half-cocked with your wrong assumption. The right thing would have been to apologize.

I guess you don't know who your Masters are.

In July 2016, after the resignation of Roger Ailes due to accusations of sexual harassment, Murdoch was named the acting CEO of Fox News.
Koch brothers, the puppet masters. Who wants to own America...

Always for you... excuses, excuses, excuses. Try looking at reality and not through your spectacles of your bias perspective.

The facts, that's what you wanted correct, not opinion, well you got'em now deal with the truth, or should I call you a snowflake?

hahahah typical response every time, you guys never get it, you made the accusation, it's just another lie until You prove its validity and its credibility. Gosh every time

The big win in congress came after the midterm election in November of 2010. Are you going to continue to argue that point?

The 2010 United States elections were held on Tuesday, November 2, 2010, in the middle of Democratic President Barack Obama's first term. ... The 2010 midterm election is also the third consecutive midterm election held in a president's first term where Republicans picked up seats across both houses of Congress.

After major gerrymandering efforts, the GOP won the majority in the house.

Yes, thanks to Trump people... the everyday working wo/man will lose big time, lose in income, lose in healthcare, lose in protections, lose in life, home and safety. But Wall street, well now, they're doing fantastic, people who work for the government in any capacity, they're doing great too, no healthare worries at all. It's all good, isn't that right.

"Socialist garbage"more propaganda from the xtr-right, just another way to demonize a party, but that is what has been at work for decades now with the corporate elitist's fascists. The very people you support are the very people trying to steal away our government, but your loyalty to your party blinds you. All anyone has to do at this point is step back and watch it unfold.

You see, corporations are entities, a conglomerate, they are not people too, that's one of the differences in ideology of the left and right. Right=corporations, left=people. The right has been trying to change the laws to protect corporations over people... our government is there to protect its citizens, Corporation's main function is to grow profits, by any means possible, including doing unethical practices such as stealing away peoples pensions for example.

Many businesses get away with stealing due to the fact it may not be against the law, what people do now was never contemplated, a law had never been written. So now completely unprincipled tactics lacking any moral conscious has become a common practice. Beforehand we never imagined peoples integrity to stoop so low. Laws that were never put in practice now need to be put in place.We live in a new era now, the one of Madoff's, Murdock's, and Koch's etc...,

It's their crap, Where is your proof to your list of your false allegations, or are you just regurgitating your party's platform?

For now in response to immigrants, from 2009 to 2016, his administration oversaw the forcible removal of more than 3 million undocumented immigrants—most of whom were sent back to Mexico. Neither Bill Clinton, nor George W. Bush, Obama’s two predecessors, came close to reaching his tally over their two terms.

Hahaha, guess they're using the Trump playbook

Yes but that was at a time when Republicans behaved like Democrats and Democrats behaved like Republicans

That's not what I said at all, THAT is only your twist to demonize me, so your post is Moot. Where did I ever say it was OK to Bomb, That was your lack of comprehension to what I wrote, the only thing ridiculous was your interpretation. Maybe you shouldn't but into a conversation, I was having with another, if your''re not going to bother prereading the posts and what the reply was in reference to.
Now this is what I said;
"One reason we wanted Hawaii as a state was to have a home base for a Pacific fleet".
Did I say we were a state AT THAT TIME? No, it was referencing why we were there...period. It was a good location for our fleet. Were we trying to keep our territory there and become a state for this purpose, I would say that would be a yes.

Now my second point and quote; "Most of the ships bombed were simply docked at home for maintenance and were older WW1 ships. just saying"

Most of the destroyed ships were from WW1, not WW11 yes. This was in reference on why they were in port, for maintenance and not under some misguided ploy by President Roosevelt to have them purposely struck down. Did I ever mention when we first occupied Hawaii, NO, did it have any bearing on the discussion, NO.
The Arizona, built(Penn Class) 1910
The Pennsylvania (Penn class) 1010
The Nevada..........................1914
The Oklahoma......................1916
The Tennesse....................... 1919
The California........................1919