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Jan 9, 2018 17:00:01   #
S. Maturin wrote:
"Oh YEAH, they are the REAL SCIENTISTS.."

Yup, hurts don't it. Go get another bowl of ice cream and all will heal.


Go get a new comic book and leave intelligent conversation to the adults.
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Jan 9, 2018 11:34:03   #
buffalo wrote:
John Whitehead
The Rutherford Institute
January 5, 2018

This is the tale of two Americas, where the rich get richer and the poor go to jail.

Aided and abetted by the likes of Attorney General Jeff Sessions—a man who wouldn’t recognize the Constitution if it smacked him in the face—the American dream has become the American scheme: the rich are getting richer and more powerful, while anyone who doesn’t belong to the power elite gets poorer and more powerless to do anything about the nation’s steady slide towards fascism, authoritarianism and a profit-driven police state.

Not content to merely pander to law enforcement and add to its military largesse with weaponry and equipment designed for war, Sessions has made a concerted effort to expand the police state’s power to search, strip, seize, raid, steal from, arrest and jail Americans for any infraction, no matter how insignificant.

Now Sessions has given state courts the green light to resume their practice of jailing individuals who are unable to pay the hefty finesimposed by the American police state. In doing so, Sessions has once again shown himself to be not only a shill for the Deep State but an enemy of the people.

First, some background on debtors’ prisons, which jail people who cannot afford to pay the exorbitant fines imposed on them by courts and other government agencies.

Congress banned debtors’ prisons in 1833.

In 1983, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled the practice to be unconstitutional under the Fourteenth Amendment’s Equal Protection clause.
Where things began to change, according to The Marshall Project, was with the rise of “mass incarceration” when we started to imprison more people for lesser crimes.

By the late 1980s and early 90s, “there was a dramatic increase in the number of statutes listing a prison term as a possible sentence for failure to repay criminal-justice debt.” During the 2000s, the courts started cashing in big-time “by using the threat of jail time – established in those statutes – to squeeze cash out of small-time debtors.”

Fast-forward to the present day which finds us saddled with not only profit-driven private prisons and a prison-industrial complex but also, as investigative reporter Eli Hager notes, “the birth of a new brand of ‘offender-funded’ justice.”

Follow the money trail. It always points the way.

Whether you’re talking about the government’s war on terrorism, the war on drugs, or some other phantom danger dreamed up by enterprising bureaucrats, there is always a profit-incentive involved.

The same goes for the war on crime.

At one time, the American penal system operated under the idea that dangerous criminals needed to be put under lock and key in order to protect society. Today, the flawed yet retributive American “system of justice” is being replaced by an even more flawed and insidious form of mass punishment based upon profit and expediency.

Sessions’ latest gambit plays right into the hands of those who make a profit by jailing Americans.

Under such a system, the plight of the average American is measured in dollars and cents.

This is not justice.

This is yet another example of how greed and profit-incentives have not only perverted policing in America but have corrupted the entire criminal justice system.

Unfortunately, the criminal justice system has been operating as a for-profit enterprise for years now, covertly padding its pockets through penalty-riddled programs aimed at maximizing revenue rather than ensuring public safety.

All of those seemingly hard-working police officers and code-enforcement officers and truancy officers and traffic cops handing out ticket after ticket after ticket: they’re not working to make your communities safer—they’ve got quotas to fill.

Same goes for the courts, which have come to rely on fines, fees and exorbitant late penalties as a means of increased revenue. The power of these courts, magnified in recent years through the introduction of specialty courts beyond your run-of-the-mill traffic court (drug court, homeless court, veterans court, mental health court, criminal court, teen court, gambling court, prostitution court, community court, domestic violence court, truancy court), is “reshaping the American legal system—with little oversight,” concludes the Boston Globe.

And for those who can’t afford to pay the court fines heaped on top of the penalties ($302 for jaywalking, $531 for an overgrown yard, or $120 for arriving a few minutes late to court), there’s probation (managed by profit-run companies that tack on their own fees, which are often more than double the original fine) or jail time (run by profit-run companies that charge inmates for everything from food and housing to phone calls at outrageous markups), which only adds to the financial burdens of those already unable to navigate a costly carceral state.

Ask yourself this: at a time when crime rates across the country remain at historic lows (despite Sessions’ inaccurate claims to the contrary), why does the prison population continue to grow?

The prison population continues to grow because of a glut of laws that criminalize activities that should certainly not be outlawed, let alone result in jail time. Overcriminalization continues to plague the country because of legislators who work hand-in-hand with corporations to adopt laws that favor the corporate balance sheet. And when it comes to incarceration, the corporate balance sheet weighs heavily in favor of locking up more individuals in government-run and private prisons.

It’s a vicious cycle that grows more vicious by the day.

Now you can shrug all of this away as a consequence of committing a crime, but that just doesn’t cut it. Especially not when average Americans are being jailed for such so-called crimes as eating SpaghettiOs (police mistook them for methamphetamine), not wearing a seatbelt, littering, jaywalking, having homemade soap (police mistook the soap for cocaine), profanity, spitting on the ground, farting, loitering and twerking.

There is no room in the American police state for self-righteousness. Not when we are all guilty until proven innocent.

As I make clear in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People, this is no longer a government “of the people, by the people, for the people.”

It is fast becoming a government “of the rich, by the elite, for the corporations,” and its rise to power is predicated on shackling the American taxpayer to a debtors’ prison guarded by a phalanx of politicians, bureaucrats and militarized police with no hope of parole and no chance for escape.
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Yes Obama did try and remedy this but another undo by Trump...

Trump reversed the Obama era Department of Justice’s order to stop contracting with private prison facilities. Private prisons create a perverse incentive to incarcerate more people since these companies are motivated to increase profit, which is generated only if there are more inmates filling their facilities. Private prisons that contracted with the Department of Justice were found by the department itself to be less efficient and have more issues with security and management.
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Jan 9, 2018 10:59:46   #
No offense guys but you're clueless on the real issues, and no matter how much you wish things would remain even somewhat the same things will always move forward. But if you're talking about Apple, the issue is not about how much time kids use phones, that would be another topic.And if you think that's just Liberal kids you're crazy.
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Jan 9, 2018 10:40:45   #
straightUp wrote:
Enough to know you're wrong. (I still find it hard to believe that so many Americans fail this one.)

As I already stated, the Constitution is a blueprint for the government itself. ...As in... before the Constitution, there WAS no federal government to limit! So while it's true the Constitution does indeed limit the power of the government, that is not it's entire purpose anymore than the entire purpose of a blueprint is to limit the size of a building.

so back at ya. ;)


What a GREAT analogy, really perfect, hence our amendments(additions)
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Jan 9, 2018 10:31:28   #
bahmer wrote:
Well that was good for a laugh good thing I didn't have a mouth full of coffee or my keyboard would have been ruined.



Well it's always good to laugh, just as I do when the right calls everyone from center to left communists.
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Jan 9, 2018 10:27:24   #
johnmont wrote:
You still don't. get it!The Democrats aren't even remotely Communist ! Its SOP for the republicans to accuse the democrats and anyone who does not agree with everything they say of being communists. they have been doing that even before the days of tailgunner Joe!.The Republicans even accused Eisenhower of being a Communist! reference, None dare call it treason.


Yes, I recall them labeling the liberals communists which demonized them, then to use this in their favor again the right merged Liberals with the Democrats during the Bush campaign trying to prevent people on the right from moving over when wanting to leave. Low and behold the independent grows.
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Jan 9, 2018 10:14:06   #
proud republican wrote:
Nope...If Bernie Sanders would of won Presidency, believe me, this country would of moved towards communism/socialism pretty damn fast!!1




I don't believe that at all, that's just what you believe.Bernie is not a dictator and he believes in our constitution.
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Jan 9, 2018 10:05:12   #
PaulPisces wrote:
For me, Wolfie, it depends on whom she is running against.
Much like those whose Trump vote was really a vote against Clinton, I'd have to assess the candidates.

I actually think Oprah is a great leader of people and guides change for the better. But her lack of experience in public office would make me think twice before voting for her for president.


I think Oprah would be brought up to speed in public office in a New York minute, she understands business....great... and business is politics. What she has is exactly what we need, critical thinking and reason.
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Jan 9, 2018 09:59:36   #
PaulPisces wrote:
For me, Wolfie, it depends on whom she is running against.
Much like those whose Trump vote was really a vote against Clinton, I'd have to assess the candidates.

I actually think Oprah is a great leader of people and guides change for the better. But her lack of experience in public office would make me think twice before voting for her for president.
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Jan 9, 2018 09:56:08   #
Lonewolf wrote:
Trump is not a billionaire his family is about broke, the russians are propping him up, that's his real prablem, Muller Knows it


Got that right...
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Jan 9, 2018 09:50:25   #
Lonewolf wrote:
She's far more qualified than trump , she made her billions honestly


I'd Love to see it just to watch the white supremacist nationalists set themselves on fire. My answer

HELL YEAH
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Jan 9, 2018 09:01:19   #
maureenthannon wrote:
If JFK was alive today, he'd NOT be a Democrat!! He wouldn't, and they'd never vote for him today. When he took office, the economy was a mess, so he CUT TAXES!!After the Cuban Missile Crisis, he didn't apologize to Castro for Americans being so mean. When North Vietnam attacked South Vietnam, he brought America in to defend the South, not kill them for rebelling against the Masters up North. The epitome of his unliberal ways was when he said, "Ask not what can your country do for you, ask what you can do for your country". If a Democrat said something like that today, the folks on the Left would've killed him.
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BS
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Jan 9, 2018 08:49:56   #
JFlorio wrote:
I'll bet you're one hell of a buzz kill. It's called humor. What a frigid piece of work you are. Should come visit me in Russia. Everything's frigid.
You'd fit right in.


Like I've said before your wife has my sympathies, as for me, hearing men as yourself, makes me very grateful for my husband is the very opposite of you.
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Jan 9, 2018 08:42:12   #
archie bunker wrote:
My theory is (and I think I'm right) that now they are giving otherwise normal weather systems big, bad, scary names, so they can claim that we've never had one like it before. This is the first "bomb cyclone" in recorded history. Not the first bad winter storm, but the first one to be named that.
Now the sky screamers who aren't smart enough to see how they are being manipulated are in freak out mode because global warming caused it. See what I'm saying?


The reason why people, as you say, are screaming is from being ignored for half of a century, and nothing changes due to the very fact the industry who fights for things to remain the same, for their own self-interest and profit have been winning, and when they win Archie you, me and the world and following generations lose. It's just that simple, I'm sorry you don't see it and all you see is finding fault with the people trying to make the change.
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Jan 9, 2018 08:34:59   #
JFlorio wrote:
Seems to me if true what morgan wrote, So what? Looks like it took over 200 years to freeze like this again. By the way could you send me an onion? All of ours froze here in Siberia. Hasn't been this cold here since last year.


That would be 300 years, guess they didn't teach basic math either where you're from.
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