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Jan 6, 2024 20:34:33   #
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Donald Trump began shilling for the use of hydroxychloroquine at the very first of what became his daily White House update on the COVID-19 pandemic. The drug is primarily used as an anti-parasitic, mostly in the treatment of malaria, and there was never any good evidence that it was effective in addressing COVID-19.

Hydroxychloroquine can lower the number f infection-fighting white blood cells, making it possibly the worst type of medication for anyone trying to fight off an infection. However, in the earliest days of the pandemic, Trump declared the drug a “game changer” and began stockpiling millions of pills. Under pressure from Trump and TV Host Dr. Oz, the FDA authorized emergency use of hydroxychloroquine as a potential treatment for COVID-19. The drug didn’t work. The U.S. ended up with a mountain of worthless pills. And Trump went right on promoting its use long after the FDA officially warned consumers not to use it.

It’s impossible to know how much Trump’s promise that hydroxychloroquine was an effective treatment caused people to disregard the threat of COVID-19 or how much this opened the door to conspiracy theories about vaccines. But a new study in Biomedicine and Pharmacotherapy puts an estimated number on deaths directly resulting from the use of this drug to treat COVID-19 patients: 16,990.

That hydroxychloroquine was more likely to kill than to cure was known very early. A study released just one month after Trump began promoting the drug showed that patients given Trump’s wonder treatment were more likely to die. The treatment was found to have a strong association with heart issues, and the results were so clear and overwhelming that the trial use of the drug was suspended ahead of schedule.

Those same results have now been confirmed by researchers in France who looked at the use of hydroxychloroquine across six countries. In all cases, the use of the drug with COVID-19 patients increased the rate of deaths. Overall, patients who were administered hydroxychloroquine were 11% more likely to die than those who were not.

Of course, there was one brilliant paper later cited by Trump that concluded treatment with hydroxychloroquine “improves survival by over 100%” even though 78% of the people in the study died. That’s science, people. Science that shockingly never made it into an actual peer-reviewed journal.

Due to the level of promotion hydroxychloroquine received, that 11% increased rate of death extends across millions of patients, both in the U.S. and overseas. In some locations, as many as 84% of patients diagnosed with symptomatic COVID-19 were prescribed hydroxychloroquine. The result is that an estimated 16,990 people died unnecessarily.

As scientists behind the study conclude, the story of hydroxychloroquine and COVID-19 illustrates “the hazard of drug repurposing with low-level evidence.” But it wasn’t the only time Trump declared that something unrelated would provide a cure for COVID-19. Trump also promoted the horse deworming medicine ivermectin, which led to a run on the treatment at farm supply stores. Trump also pushed the use of convalescent plasma before any trials had shown it was effective.

The plasma idea, unlike the use of a malaria drug or horse paste, at least had the benefit of being based on a somewhat reasonable theory. However, it still didn’t work. And, as should go without saying, neither did the de-wormer.

Because Donald Trump can never be wrong, plenty of other Republicans were happy to hop on the quack medicine train. That included Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis. For his new surgeon general, DeSantis went straight to hydroxychloroquine promoter, anti-masker, and anti-vaccine guy Dr. Joseph Ladapo. Lapado was back in the news this week after he appeared on Steve Bannon’s show to tell people to stop getting vaccinated. Because mRNA vaccines are an affront to God. “DeSantis’ Florida Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo says covid mRNA vaccines “the Anti-Christ of all products… That’s so wrong, you know, it’s just complete disrespect to the human genome and the importance of protecting it and preserving it, and that is our connection to God.”

What a load of garbage. No amount of lies, stupidity, and causing nearly another 17,000 covid deaths is enough to wake up idiots wearing MAGA hats.
Donald Trump began shilling for the use of hydroxy... (show quote)



Learn, it was under this Administration thar Fauci's standard of care Remdesivir killed hundreds of thousands...including my father, brother, aunt and cousins wife.
There is a reason pyzer has billions in class action lawsuits over the death remdesivir, deaths blamed on covid.
Worthy of mention, Trump helped push the vaccine that left millions worldwide with adverse reactions (most were severe).
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Jan 6, 2024 18:19:08   #
MidnightRider wrote:
I think they'll use something like #4. They have something in place that negates our ballots, bans any Republicans. It seems they want a civil war, which WILL use martial law greatly taking our freedoms away. If yyou thought the Covid lie was anything, buckle up.



Agreed,
Blackswan event Will happen. The puppet masters are eager for war.
A good bet is cyber attacks on infrastructure, internet, cell, banks and more. Another good bet is 9/11 type terror attacks happening in multiple locations across America, via three letter agencies, with blame on either middle easterns or Maga supporters.
One thing is certain, we will learn how much more evil the puppet masters are willing, murdering Americans, they have done it before (three letter agencies)
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Jan 4, 2024 15:06:02   #
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I bought several cattle at $300 a head ready to go and some at 36 cents a pound live weight . That was back in the day when I was raiseing a family .


We're doing 5 sheep, 5 cattle this spring. Prices will be higher but still have free meat and a few dollars in the pocket, after selling off quarters and halves.
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Jan 4, 2024 11:48:42   #
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Thanks for the information . It is always good to hear it from the locals


We are forecast for minus -2 this week, pretty warm from last year's -25
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Jan 4, 2024 11:45:59   #
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/other/great-lakes-start-2024-with-smallest-amount-of-ice-in-at-least-50-years/ar-AA1mn8rk


Pacific ocean El Nino this year, brings warmer winters to Northern west and mid states.
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Jan 4, 2024 11:40:11   #
Bruce123 wrote:
That’s several hundred thousand dollars EACH for us taxpayers.


The last 3 years exceeds 8 trillion. I believe that 8 trillion in 3 short years is a historical record.
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Jan 4, 2024 11:38:26   #
XXX wrote:
Due to bad weather in the midwest last year a lot of people lost their herd due to lack of feed.

There is that much less beef around which is the explanation of the imports.

Expect beef prices to soar again!

Not that i care since i am a beef farmer myself. 🤗i raise black angus. Small-scale of course.


Hey X, that was a small part of herd reduction. Away from media headlines........ FDA culled herds for disease, paid ranchers over market. Ranchers have repeatedly stated, no test for disease was conducted.
But the largest reason was due to ranchers high fertilizer cost (growing feed) high diesel cost and soaring feed cost. Ranchers culled back there herds to historic low numbers. This falls cattle to market, processing plant paid ranchers on the spot, two times this year's market price for next year's cattle (in advance) due to projected historical low cattle herds over the next three years.
So two times price per head? Think processing plants will sell meat 2X or more likely increase their bottom line with meat Shortages? Expect $16-18 pet pound ground beef, the green agendas wet dream....thanks Biden or I should say, the shadow handlers of this Administration.
Combine with hundreds of major food processing plants, warehouse burnt to the ground, shipping delays, nations not exporting foods to America and then add droughts/flooding.
Americans are in deep trouble, and it's (food shortages) are already begun.
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Jan 4, 2024 11:22:24   #
RascalRiley wrote:
1. A severe economic downturn has been forecast for years and is about due, due to republicans running up the debt.
2 and 3 will be Trump initiatives
4 The USA has started lots of wars but did not initiate the current ones.

And who are the drivers of wars? Powerful people, defence contractors, politicians and major shareholders.


Of course you can't add math, right?
16 .5 trillion from Obama and Biden has nothing to do with the national debt?
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Dec 25, 2023 06:15:52   #
Airforceone wrote:
Holy Sh?t I just realized you MAGA folks have been silent for a long time about Trumps stock market creating the greatest economy ever your like a pile of crickets stuck in a bucket of Sh$t
Well just a reminder

Trump left office Dow was at 30,723 and dropping.

Biden today stock market at 37,385

Now I understand why you went silent Damm Trump left office unemployed at 7% and rising Biden has Unemployment at 3.6% but Biden economy not so good. How come you people just ignore or anything that is factual. How come you never mention 400,000 dead Americans and rising and Trump and the clown car started the Anti vaccine agenda. And the Trump hypocrisy was in full swing telling Americans not to get vaccinated. All those red states not getting vaccinated as the death toll continued to rise. 62% of the country got vaccinated how many of those red neck racist died because they listen to Trump. Then you blame the death toll on Biden. You just can’t believe how these MAGA people think.
We are talking about red neck racist that never went to a dentist. I just don’t understand you have no teeth and you refuse to go to a dentist.then you want to remove over 975 books from schools and burn them. But your science deniers how come your not burning science books.
Holy Sh?t I just realized you MAGA folks have been... (show quote)


The feds announced 2024 intentions to cut rates.
Just one very big historical economic problem. Rate cuts follow markets crashing.
Recession has not cooled or gone down, we have only had month to month lower, not year over year and projected to go far worse 2024
Greed is moving markets as banks scramble to dump bonds at a loss, to shore up cash, with historical high cash withdrawals over the last several months.
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Dec 25, 2023 05:36:02   #
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Homelessness has been rising over the last 50 years as congress as been bribed into passing laws detrimental to keeping wages at decent levels. As around 95% of Americans have lost much of their buying power over that peroid, they have less to spare for charities. Homelessness is only one charity of many suffering from a turndown in income. And it was Reagan who shut down most of the mental health facilities, which was a major cause of homelessness.



Mental health hospitals, were decades deep into abuse, mental and physical. Charlatans practicing as psychiatrist, using patients as Guinea pigs with dangerous chemical cocktails, along with unsanctioned medical procedures.
Closing was justified, however there was never a plan (what to do with patient's, after the doors closed).
Further complicating the explosion of mental health in our society is a breakdown in our schools and universities curriculum, leaving students unprepared in the higher math and sciences. The last decade has left over a 70% vacancy of qualified psychologist and over 95% vacancy of dual diagnosis psychologist. The high vacancy rate solely rest on students incapable of getting through higher mathematics of the rigorous requirements.
I struggle to believe mental hospitals closing under the Reagan administration has anything to do with the spike of homeless and everything to do with Americans loss of buying power, traced back to 1972-1973 Nixon replacing the gold back dollar with the petrodollar. When Bush I took office the national debt was just over 7 trillion, add Obama, Trump, Biden and we are only weeks from crossing over 36 trillion national debt. 8 trillion added since 2020, flood a nation with currency, currency becomes worthless. We just crosses over 125% national interest only payments (1 trillion dollars) to America's GDP......that causes homelessness.
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Dec 23, 2023 20:47:26   #
federally indicted mattoid wrote:
?

You need to read it better.

Talks about an officer who's sworn to uphold the constitution who's engaged in insurrection being disqualified.


Fortunately for the unread, our forefathers had scribes record speeches and we have copies of letters they had written.
But then, why listen to our forefathers intent, kinda like leftist ignore their speeches and letters regarding the 2nd amendment, doesn't fit the agenda. And unlike you Rheumatoid, I provide references that are not some rag opinion piece.

https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/14th-amendment

Passed by Congress June 13, 1866, and ratified July 9, 1868, the 14th Amendment extended liberties and rights granted by the Bill of Rights to formerly enslaved people.
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Dec 23, 2023 18:59:50   #
federally indicted mattoid wrote:
Yeah sure.

I want every president to break laws and be immune from prosecution.


But then there is always a dipstick incapable of understanding our judicial corruption, using the 14th amendment (written for free slaves).
Incapable of arguments based in justified reason
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Dec 23, 2023 18:36:02   #
federally indicted mattoid wrote:
They are very knowledgeable. They wrote airtight reasoning for removing him from the ballot.

They also knew that he'd appeal

He'll attempt to play out the clock, as usual.

When his "presidential immunity" is denied again in court, he'll appeal again, as usual.

Ad nauseum


Your just going to argue party line, regardless. What a putz
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Dec 22, 2023 17:20:09   #
American Vet wrote:
I agree. You certainly have cornered the market on stupid.


Matoid is leftist incapable of understanding, the intent of the 14th amendment.....just history, free slaves. But the the Supreme Court twisted the 14th amendment to make same sex marriage.
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Dec 21, 2023 18:35:07   #
Michael Roy wrote:
True. How long until the ball gets rolling?


It's rolling with 144,000 hours capital hours of documented truth, released by our leader of the law makers.
Pelosi is so old, time it takes to convict her, she will be dead.
Eventually those convicted of crimes at the capital will be released, and paid. Unless the 2024 election is a repeat of 2020 and I expect multiple false flags allowing a steal.
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