Posts for: straightUp
May 23, 2018 11:50:12 #
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son of witless wrote:
Interesting how many facts you left out of your po... (show quote)
excuses, excuses... Bottom line is... Both Trump and Ryan addressed the HD employees directly and said the tax cuts will save their jobs and they didn't. Also, your pathetic excuse has no bearing on the bigger picture drawn by the numbers provided... You are obviously missing the point being made.
corporate stock buybacks hit a record $178 billion in the first three months of 2018; average hourly earnings for American workers are up 67 cents over the past year.
That's not just Harley-Davidson... That's the entire economy... Harley-Davidson is just an example of what's happening. The fact that stock buybacks hit an all-time high right after the tax cuts is significant as hell, and none of you weak-minded Trump droids have the courage to face the facts about this.
http://time.com/money/5267940/companies-spending-trump-tax-cuts-stock-buybacks/
http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/20/investing/stocks-week-ahead-buybacks-tax-cuts/index.html
May 22, 2018 17:19:46 #
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Hardwork1 wrote:
Several years ago I had a conversation with a frie... (show quote)
Here's what your six bullet items boil down to.
1. "Disgusting" Criticism of Trump.
2. Claims "that General Kelly says bad things about president."
3. 12 separate investigations on Pruit
4. "Vicious" criticism of Trump
5. Not enough fanfare for Trump.
6. Congressional support for funding education
So four of the actions that you are saying is "destroying" America is basically criticism. So should we repeal the 1st Amendment and tell every American to STFU? Would that make America great? And what exactly is wrong with investigating corruption? I thought you wanted to drain the swamp?
Now the last one... I just couldn't believe what I was reading... You actually said the Department of Education should not exist. Are you by any chance a card carrying member of Boko Hiram? I ask because you may as well be since they also demand loyalty and oppose education.
May 22, 2018 16:50:21 #
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Wolf counselor wrote:
Face it .........Bubba.
You lefties hate America.
Any US citizen who doesn't agree with putting America First, is either Anti American or mentally retarded.
It's as simple as that.
Now Get With The Program............. Bubba.
You lefties hate America.
Any US citizen who doesn't agree with putting America First, is either Anti American or mentally retarded.
It's as simple as that.
Now Get With The Program............. Bubba.
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Wolf... The only thing missing is you kneeling down before him with your head pressed against his crotch. LOL
May 22, 2018 16:29:42 #
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At Harley-Davidson, Trump's tax cuts help investors while 800 workers loose their jobs.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/5/22/17350180/harley-davidson-tax-buyback-kansas-city-factory
"[Just recently,] 800 workers at a Harley-Davidson factory were told they would lose their jobs when the plant closed its doors and shifted operations to a facility in York, Pennsylvania — a net loss of 350 jobs. Workers and union representatives say they didn’t see it coming. Just days later, the company announced a dividend increase and a stock buyback plan to repurchase 15 million of its shares, valued at about $696 million. It’s a pattern that’s played out over and over since the tax cuts passed — companies profit, shareholders reap the benefits, and workers get left out."
This is the pattern that some of us have been warning you about right here on OPP. I've said numerous times that the tax cuts will go the way of Reagan's trickle-down theory, where the trickle gets routed to investors and workers get little or nothing out of it... only much, much worse because the conditions are not the same as they were in the 80's.
Sure enough, corporate stock buybacks hit a record $178 billion in the first three months of 2018; average hourly earnings for American workers are up 67 cents over the past year. You might point out that 67 cents is better than nothing but you would be wrong there too, because the same tax cuts that *might* claim *some* part of that 67 cent increase over the past year, is a mathematical guarantee that the government will get less funding (unless the "Laffer miracle" happens, which is highly unlikely) The odds are pretty high that anyone with a 67 cent increase in wages will end up having to spend more than that to compensate for cuts to programs like Medicare... In other words, average American workers will suffer a net loss... and that's BEFORE the temporary tax cuts for the working class expire.
That's right... After 2025, all individual tax cuts are set to expire. At the same time, corporate rate cuts are made permanent under the bill. Obviously, the individual tax cut was there to fool people into supporting a bill that ultimately gives it all to the wealthy.
Make no mistake... If you are a working class American like I am (any American that needs to work for a living) Trump is NOT your friend... he is your ENEMY!
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/5/22/17350180/harley-davidson-tax-buyback-kansas-city-factory
"[Just recently,] 800 workers at a Harley-Davidson factory were told they would lose their jobs when the plant closed its doors and shifted operations to a facility in York, Pennsylvania — a net loss of 350 jobs. Workers and union representatives say they didn’t see it coming. Just days later, the company announced a dividend increase and a stock buyback plan to repurchase 15 million of its shares, valued at about $696 million. It’s a pattern that’s played out over and over since the tax cuts passed — companies profit, shareholders reap the benefits, and workers get left out."
This is the pattern that some of us have been warning you about right here on OPP. I've said numerous times that the tax cuts will go the way of Reagan's trickle-down theory, where the trickle gets routed to investors and workers get little or nothing out of it... only much, much worse because the conditions are not the same as they were in the 80's.
Sure enough, corporate stock buybacks hit a record $178 billion in the first three months of 2018; average hourly earnings for American workers are up 67 cents over the past year. You might point out that 67 cents is better than nothing but you would be wrong there too, because the same tax cuts that *might* claim *some* part of that 67 cent increase over the past year, is a mathematical guarantee that the government will get less funding (unless the "Laffer miracle" happens, which is highly unlikely) The odds are pretty high that anyone with a 67 cent increase in wages will end up having to spend more than that to compensate for cuts to programs like Medicare... In other words, average American workers will suffer a net loss... and that's BEFORE the temporary tax cuts for the working class expire.
That's right... After 2025, all individual tax cuts are set to expire. At the same time, corporate rate cuts are made permanent under the bill. Obviously, the individual tax cut was there to fool people into supporting a bill that ultimately gives it all to the wealthy.
Make no mistake... If you are a working class American like I am (any American that needs to work for a living) Trump is NOT your friend... he is your ENEMY!
May 22, 2018 14:22:27 #
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emarine wrote:
apology accepted Bird Buddy, there are lady's playing too... Israel fessed up to the phosphorus shelling... 200 shells fired... 180 in open field military targets... 20 on military targets hidden in civilian aeras... they were wrong using phosphourus in my opinion ...
I still think your overall view is biased, but I have noticed that you at least make attempts to be objective. I've already admitted to being biased myself... I think it's almost impossible NOT to be somewhat biased on such a long-standing and significant conflict, but I do also try to be objective.
I could easily just say Israel should be removed as a sovereign nation. Not only would that be an easy position to defend on the basis that the Zionists simply had no right to take that land from the indigenous people in the first place, but it would also give me the shallow gratification of making a statement that I know would piss off the people who I think are assholes. But as I've said before, there is a generation of people that have been born there since 1948 and have no other place to call home... so from a humanist standpoint, we kind of have to accept the existence of Israel (now) and that's why I gravitate to a two-state solution.
To be honest it's uncomfortable for me to make concessions like this because I know it's part of the Zionist strategy, to infiltrate, take-over and normalize, and here I am validating the normalization of Israel's existence. But that's me, trying to be objective. It's a LOT more than I see ANYONE on the other side giving he Palestinians, which makes it all the more challenging... To defend Israel's right to exist in spite of my hatred for Zionism while not seeing ANY such concession on the other side for the Palestinian right to exist.
Palestine was once a place where Jews, Muslims and Christians all lived together in relative harmony for over a thousand years. The reason why the most significant city in Palestine, Jerusalem is so important to all three Abrahamic religions is BECAUSE Palestine was multicultural. The Zionists created a "Jewish State" in it's place where other religions are "allowed" but social advantages like government subsidies and full citizenship are limited to Jews. Now that Trump effectively ended the neutrality of U.S. policy, I'm seeing reports that the privileged Israeli settlers, flanked by their protective IDF are storming the al-Aqsa Mosque. I keep hearing the other side making excuses for Israeli action, saying it's in the name of self-defense but I don't see how storming a place of worship is self-defense.
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http://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/default/files/styles/main_image_article_page/public/main-images/Jerusalem%20aa.jpg
This is Zionist tactics in action... The Muslims here are not doing anything wrong... they are praying in a Mosque that is very Holy to them, the 3rd most important Mosque in the world. The Zionist tactic here to storm the Mosque with Jewish settlers (estimated 300+) to turn the Mosque into a spectacle with the hope of generating a response that they can use to "justify" the more drastic actions. Positioning the Jewish settlers (who have taken their homes) and the soldiers (who have killed their family members) directly in the path to Mecca (the direction in which worshipers face when praying) is incredibly insensitive and obviously intentional.
I don't think it's possible to look at these pictures and arrive at any dissimilar conclusion without a strong will to deny objectivity. You can blame Arab anger and hatred all you like but if you aren't seeing how the Zionist are intentionally creating that anger and hatred then you're stopping short of a full picture.
May 21, 2018 17:27:28 #
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eagleye13 wrote:
emarine wrote:
"the Zionists are plotting to take over the world crap..."
Talk to eagle about that... I'm not the one making that claim. I think there's enough evil among the Zionists just in their treatment of Arabs to warrant my views and actions. I don't need to imagine NWO conspiracies on top of that. - sUp
It doesn't take "a conspiracy theory" to point out the wickedness parallels in the NWO movement, and the perps behind it.
"the Zionists are plotting to take over the world crap..."
Talk to eagle about that... I'm not the one making that claim. I think there's enough evil among the Zionists just in their treatment of Arabs to warrant my views and actions. I don't need to imagine NWO conspiracies on top of that. - sUp
It doesn't take "a conspiracy theory" to point out the wickedness parallels in the NWO movement, and the perps behind it.
I agree.
May 21, 2018 17:14:37 #
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amadjuster wrote:
That is a quote of Mohammed and I would advise you not to deny it to a Muslim. You might lose your head over it.
As far as your questions about the conflicts in Israel being in prophecy, I believe so.
As far as your questions about the conflicts in Israel being in prophecy, I believe so.
I thought so.
amadjuster wrote:
Arabs make up about 21% of Israel’s population and vote and serve in the Knesset. Sephardic Jews make up about 52% of the Israeli Jews. That really messes up the Khazarian myth, doesn't it.
Zechariah 12: 2-3.
Arabs make up about 21% of Israel’s population and vote and serve in the Knesset. Sephardic Jews make up about 52% of the Israeli Jews. That really messes up the Khazarian myth, doesn't it.
Zechariah 12: 2-3.
I never put any stock in the Khazarian Theory in the first place. True or false that theory has no bearing on my views whatsoever.
May 21, 2018 17:09:05 #
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emarine wrote:
Think about this if you will... most of the inhabi... (show quote)
I think your premise is incorrect. I've already described my understanding of how land use worked in Palestine before the Zionists came. Perhaps it's a difficult concept for you to understand but it seems the farmers were not renting their land. Human cultures have existed for thousands of years without the need for land ownership. When Jesus Christ (the most famous of all Palestinians) walked the Earth, no one "owned" the land in Palestine. Rome had authority over the people in the land but the idea that a farmer could "own" a tract of land was alien. Farmers just found places to build farms and went to work.
The Zionists started claiming the land for themselves and "created" land titles that never existed before as a means to legitimize their hostile takeover. Whatever purchasing they did was an effort to overcome the resistance of the Ottoman Empire in allowing foreigners to claim land. So it wasn't Arabs that got the money it was the Turks. And it wasn't individual Jews purchasing the land for themselves either, it was a small number of Zionist corporations, most notably the Jewish National Fund. Even today, a lot of the Jews in Israel do not actually own the land they live on. Instead, they lease the land from these state-run corporations. If they are Jewish the the government subsidized the lease.
Like a lot of places run by oppressive regimes, Israel is very centrally controlled.
May 21, 2018 16:24:34 #
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amadjuster wrote:
[Sahih Muslim, book 041, number 6981]. The rocks and trees cry out, there is a Jew hiding behind me. Come kill him. Google it.
That means nothing to me. There is so much fake scripture out there it's pointless to even care. All I said is that... "I can't think of any reason why some of you would be so outlandish with your claims unless you had reason to defy logic and be so extreme with your prejudice." You responded as if I was making some outrageous claim about the prejudice of the people here who are obviously defending Zionism. Dude. It's not an outrageous claim. It's downright obvious! So, coming back with obscure passages from ancient texts that may or may not even be real does nothing to diffuse that reality.
Did you think that by describing how prejudiced the other side is your can somehow exonerate the prejudice of your own side?
Newsflash: This is a hotly contested issue, so naturally, there is prejudice on all sides. I'm prejudice too... As a Christian and a defender of human rights I'm VERY prejudiced against Zionists. I hate what they do with a passion and it's a struggle for me to keep an open mind about them. You're responses tell me that you have a similar prejudice against the Palestinians.
So, can you stop denying your prejudice and just answer the question? In case you forgot what the question is... here it is again... Do you think the conflicts in Israel are a prophecy?
I noticed that so far no one has dared to answer this question.
May 21, 2018 15:48:59 #
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Blade_Runner wrote:
Hey, Nik, STFU.
Stand down blade. This isn't Israel... we all have a right to express our opinions.
May 21, 2018 15:44:39 #
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emarine wrote:
Maybe you're more anti Zionist than you think...
I really don't see how I can be anymore anti-Zionist that I think I am. On a scale of one to ten (ten being the most anti-Zionist possible), I consider myself at about... ten. So ya wanna explain to me how I'm more anti-Zionist than that?
emarine wrote:
the Jewish promised land is present day Israel not heaven...
the Jewish promised land is present day Israel not heaven...
Not according to the Jewish scripture.
emarine wrote:
sounds more like anti Zionist wishful thinking.
sounds more like anti Zionist wishful thinking.
Well, anti-Zionist like me do wish that more Jews would follow their religion instead of their material gains.
emarine wrote:
the Muslim Brotherhood has been active in Egypt since 1928 and is still active today...
the Muslim Brotherhood has been active in Egypt since 1928 and is still active today...
Nasser abolished the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt back in 1954. The Muslim Brotherhood didn't return to legitimacy until the Arab Spring in 2011 when right-wing religious groups were making a comeback across the Arab world. The point I was making earlier was they they were NOT involved in the Egyptian conflicts with Israel... ALL those conflicts took place when the Muslim Brotherhood was banned in Egypt.
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there is lots of BS on this issue...
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Yes, there is.
emarine wrote:
I truly believe if the extreme Arabs would leave Palestine the Jews & peaceful Arabs could live together & rebuild Gaza back to the paradise it should be...
I truly believe if the extreme Arabs would leave Palestine the Jews & peaceful Arabs could live together & rebuild Gaza back to the paradise it should be...
That won't happen as long as the Zionists continue to oppress the Arabs. It's that oppression that drove so many of the peaceful Arabs to extreme measures in the first place.
emarine wrote:
I also truly believe if the extreme Arabs had the means there would be no Jews in Palestine...
I also truly believe if the extreme Arabs had the means there would be no Jews in Palestine...
You're probably right. 70 years of horrible oppression can make people pretty hateful. It's unfortunate.
emarine wrote:
I see most of this ant Zionist propaganda as BS...
I see most of this ant Zionist propaganda as BS...
I think you're emotionally involved and can't view this objectively.
emarine wrote:
the Zionists are plotting to take over the world crap...
the Zionists are plotting to take over the world crap...
Talk to eagle about that... I'm not the one making that claim. I think there's enough evil among the Zionists just in their treatment of Arabs to warrant my views and actions. I don't need to imagine NWO conspiracies on top of that.
emarine wrote:
Hatred and intolerance are bred in ignorance... and Jews are not ignorant people...
Hatred and intolerance are bred in ignorance... and Jews are not ignorant people...
The Jews are no different than any other people... they have their share of idiots and geniuses as do the Arabs. Stop trying to pretend that Jews are a superior people as if there's some genetic code that makes a difference.
May 21, 2018 00:34:33 #
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emarine wrote:
Ashkenazi Jews Are Not Khazars. Here’s The Proof.
Read more: http://forward.com/opinion/382967/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-khazars-heres-the-proof/
Read more: http://forward.com/opinion/382967/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-khazars-heres-the-proof/
Interesting article - thanks.
I appreciate his disclaimer at the start about the "softness" of the science behind deciding who is who. The author, Alexander Beider, is basically saying there is no proof that there IS a link between the Ashkenazi Jews and the Khazars. That doesn't mean there isn't one... especially, if the science is a little soft anyway, right?
Does it matter?
I can tell just by looking at some of them... They're no more Semitic than I am. In fact the "Khazar Theory" is actually suggesting that there *IS* a link and I'm saying I don't see it. Beider and I seem to be in agreement there.
May 21, 2018 00:01:50 #
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Nickolai wrote:
But the Zionist aren't Semitic people, they are K... (show quote)
Well said.
It's actually quite ironic that Zionists will call our opposition "anti-Semitic" when the Palestinians are more Semitic than they are.
May 20, 2018 23:57:13 #
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amadjuster wrote:
Here is what Dr. King thinks of you, Nik
I have a lot of respect for Dr King... but if that's what he actually said (who can trust a meme anymore) then he was wrong... Nicholas is 100% correct, Zionists and Jews are not the same thing.
May 20, 2018 23:52:37 #
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emarine wrote:
Excellent reply buddy but I disagree with most of ... (show quote)
Wait - I gotta stop here for a sec. So far in your rush history, you haven't mentioned anything about the displacement of the Palestinians. All of a sudden you're in 1933, like the displacement of Palestinians that started the moment Zionism started in the late 19th century is surgically removed from your narrative. I guess if it wasn't, you wouldn't be able to describe the demographics at the turn of the 19th century as being status quo over the previous thousand years. The truth is, Jews have already started mass migration from Eastern Europe and by the turn of the century it was becoming a new problem. A lot of these immigrants were not even Semitic people, they were Europeans, mostly Slavic, who had converted to Judaism and then, unfortunately to Zionism, which is a totally different thing.
Also, the Palestinians didn't spend 1000 years squatting on Ottoman land with a Jewish presence. The Jewish that were present WERE Palestinian. There were Palestinian Jews then just like there are Israeli Jews and American Jews today. And these Semitic people of Palestine, Arabs and Hebrews alike were not squatting anymore than the Greeks, Russians and Hungarians that were also ruled by the Turkish Empire.
unpause...
emarine wrote:
When Hitler stole the Jews wealth in Germany & started shipping Jew's to Palestine in 33 in large numbers the Arabs declared a holy war...Jihadi ...against all Jews as invaders of Arab lands...
When Hitler stole the Jews wealth in Germany & started shipping Jew's to Palestine in 33 in large numbers the Arabs declared a holy war...Jihadi ...against all Jews as invaders of Arab lands...
It didn't all start with the Haavara Agreement bro... that was just another episode in an already long-running season. It *did* result in a spike in immigration but it was by no means the start. And yes, there were some extreme reactions from some of the Arabs, but it's not like we can pretend to be much better when we ourselves have such a strong Nativist culture... I mean, I hear American conservatives say some pretty hateful things about immigrants from Mexico. So you would think they would understand how the Palestinians felt, with all these European immigrants coming in and literally taking what they want.
emarine wrote:
when the Ottoman empire fell the British & French divided up all the lands from the Ottoman empire giving Palestine & Jorden to split between the Jews & Arabs... Balfour.. that didn't work because of the King of Jorden wouldn't accept the Arabs back which were mostly from Jorden to begin with
when the Ottoman empire fell the British & French divided up all the lands from the Ottoman empire giving Palestine & Jorden to split between the Jews & Arabs... Balfour.. that didn't work because of the King of Jorden wouldn't accept the Arabs back which were mostly from Jorden to begin with
It's Jordan... and no, the Arabs they were refusing were not from Jordan they're from Palestine. Two different provinces. The Balfour Agreement would have displaced a lot of Arabs from Palestine and Jordan didn't feel they should have to absorb the refugees just because the Jews wanted to kick them out of Palestine.
emarine wrote:
... as tensions grew the Arabs allied with the Nazis to exterminate the Jewish people in all of the ME... that plan failed as the Nazi's lost the 2nd war opening the door for the Zionist state that most of the free world accepted... the neo Nazi Muslim Brotherhood never ended their war with all the ME Jews not just the Zionists...
... as tensions grew the Arabs allied with the Nazis to exterminate the Jewish people in all of the ME... that plan failed as the Nazi's lost the 2nd war opening the door for the Zionist state that most of the free world accepted... the neo Nazi Muslim Brotherhood never ended their war with all the ME Jews not just the Zionists...
From what I can tell, the relationships between the Arab leaders and Nazi Germany were inconsistent and wrought with ulterior motives and corruption. Also, the Muslim Brotherhood has been banned in Egypt since 1958.
emarine wrote:
the entire anti Zionist movement started because the really religious Jews are still waiting for their God to lead the back to Israel & that hasn't happened yet... Extremist Islamic propaganda picked up on this anti Zionist BS and ran with it on public media seeking pity for the poor neo Nazi aggressors of never ending religious hatred & war...
the entire anti Zionist movement started because the really religious Jews are still waiting for their God to lead the back to Israel & that hasn't happened yet... Extremist Islamic propaganda picked up on this anti Zionist BS and ran with it on public media seeking pity for the poor neo Nazi aggressors of never ending religious hatred & war...
The "really religious" Jews have apparently not forgotten that what makes a Jew, Jewish is his faith that God will lead them to Israel in Heaven. The Zionists are in the eyes of the true Rabbis, defiling God by leading people a material path to a material place they call Israel.
emarine wrote:
the people of Palestine are prisoners of neo Nazi terrorism ... there will never be any solution until the neo Nazis Arabs lose their hate BS like most humans with the ability to reason...
the people of Palestine are prisoners of neo Nazi terrorism ... there will never be any solution until the neo Nazis Arabs lose their hate BS like most humans with the ability to reason...
No, the people of Palestine are prisoners of Zionist terrorism. The will never be a solution as long as Zionists continue to push the Palestinian people out of existence.
emarine wrote:
by the way it was one of your post's that started me researching both sides of this issue several year's ago & 100's of hrs. of reading... thanks...
by the way it was one of your post's that started me researching both sides of this issue several year's ago & 100's of hrs. of reading... thanks...
I'm glad I inspired you to research... just be careful - there's a lot of bullshit out there. ;)