JoyV wrote:
That you don't like Trump and I don't like Obama is not the point. I try not to jump to conclusions without facts or even evidence. You'll note by reading back on my posts I don't say vague things like Obama is a liar and not specify any particular lies. Now you say Congress pays for the purse strings. Yet before you immediately blamed Trump an attributed some underhanded motive. Now at the same time you are saying Congress pays for the purse strings, you are saying Obama did this because he wanted more transparency. So was it Obama or Congress? And if Obama, how do you know his motive? Again you jump to a conclusion but this time a favorable one about Obama instead of a disfavorable one about Trump.
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Wow you really went on an all out rant eh..."JOY"?...You're correct it's not the point, but then you go off point attacking me personally. I don't have to live up to your expectations, I have my opinion of Trump and don't have to justify them to anyone, or back them up by fact, it's my opinion that he's a psychopathic liar... period. If I did want to back it up I have roughly 1200 lies to choose from fact check alone. He's a PROVEN liar. On tape and on live Broadcast.
Now as I gave you some credit I also said I would look into it, since Trump... what comes out of the CBO for me including their chart, now under Trump is highly suspect. Their category's alone are just plain weird, either very specific or too general. One catagory just for welfare, since when? Really wtf? They paint whatever picture they want their audience to see and nothing more. Just as in the gag orders with the EPA and the dept of Agrid. We are being bamboozled. You've mentioned purse strings twice...yes purse strings, as I explained it to you earlier, Congress appropriates funds, not the president, so you tell me, was it Obama or the Republican majority?
JoyV wrote:
You make vague accusations against Trump. Can you be more specific? What lies? And are they more an worse than the lies of past Presidents? What unethical actions an how has he tied his businesses to his presidency to get richer? He is the only President to NOT take his salary. Correction, he was told he couldn't refuse it so instead is donating it back to our government. You say he is making millions as President. Have you checked the monetary worth of Obama before his presidency and when he left office? Have you checked other presidents? IF, and that is a big if; he is making millions; he certainly wouldn't be the first. But the difference is his money would be made by his businesses (of which he divested himself of most) instead of through his government office. making money through business IS very American. The constitution guarantees our rights to LIFE, LIBERTY, and PROPERTY.
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What lies ...please too many to mention, how about the campaign-Russia or the inauguration for starters...
JoyV wrote:
Yes fascists can be nationalists. But fascists are also socialists. They are both. The term "nationalist" can be applied to Trump but not "socialist". So the label "fascist" does not fit. Find a more fitting one. How is he unAmerican? Are you really saying that trying to put our country under the authority of the UN even when it violated our Constitution as Obama tried IS American? Are you saying adhering to our Constitutional laws as Trump is working at doing is UNAmerican? The main outrages I hear from the left are (in no particular order):
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No, a fascist doesn't have to be socialists and socialists don't have to be run by a dictatorship, preferably not. I said Trump was a Nationalists and was driving us to fascism, never mentioned him being a socialist. I agree with you there he is not one. But the label of fascists fits perfectly, again my opinion. He
You ask how is he unamerican... he pins Americans against each other and tears down the Democratic party which he was affiliated with and which consists of about half of Americans and boasts publicly that they are the enemy, just like Hitler did pining the German people against the Jews. That's about as unamerican as you can get, except possibly selling our voting process down the river to the Russians.
No one has ever said to scrap our immigration laws, pure BS mantra.
JoyV wrote:
That we should abolish portions of our constitution such as the 2nd amendment and severely restrict the 1st amendment. In other words free speech only if you are in agreement with the left. Otherwise threaten violence and rioting to shut down any speech you don't like. AND political correctness to shame people into editing their words and even their thoughts. And in some cases we should simply scrap our constitution all together or treat it as a "living document" and change it as we want without the laborious process required in it for amendments.
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What a complete twist once again, That University had every right to cancel her speech to avoid a violent conflict. Anne Coulter could have taken her boney ass elsewhere if she wanted to be heard, the problem was no one really did want to hear her BS. You want to know a real suppression of our rights for free speech, look at the gag order from Trump for NOT allowing the EPA to reveal their new research on global warming or the dept of Agriculture over farming pesticides now allowed because Trump has allowed DDT's back into farming. How about our rights for information there? We pay for that research which means in my book it should be available for public knowledge.
JoyV wrote:
We should reduce our military even further than it has been starting with Bill Clinton.
We should negotiate with other nations in an apologetic fashion and position of weakness. Making sure all know we have NO intention of backing up our position militarily.
We should pay for other countries to consider reducing their carbon emissions. Pay them without any strings attached to how they spend the money.
Our military is so over indulged it is breaking the back of America.
Obama always acted in the most appropriate manner with others customs, if something were to be considered offensive to another country by our mistaken actions, then yes an apology is in order, that is the right thing to do, to respect their customs as they would respect ours.
JoyV wrote:
And that anyone in law enforcement who shoots someone, no matter how justified, be accused of murder. {When cops died protecting marchers who were chanting, "What Do We Want--Dead Cops. When Do We Want Them--Now" and "Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon". Obama went to the memorial service of the police officers. That should have been a gesture of support for those cops who died saving the very people who called for their death. But when he spoke (and I watched the speech), he talked about police racism and police brutality. But that was OK with the left.}
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No police officer is accused of murder just because he shoots someone, a ridiculous comment. And this incident you speak of sounds completely mixed up with another incident, where black people were innocently killed by police officers, the last man shot 22 times, how many times has that happened over the past several years but since you've chosen to be vague to protect what you say I really can't comment.
JoyV wrote:
These are just a few of the things which I would consider UnAmerican.
If this is what you consider unAmerican it's no wonder where in the place we're in.