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Aug 6, 2019 06:53:57   #
proud republican wrote:
Because of people like you there violence against Republicans.......and immigrants...This kind of rhetoric of people like you is responsible for hate in this country..
Because of people like you there violence against ... (show quote)

No PR, you have to blame the people who are starting it, not the people who are reacting to it. The hate that is dividing this country STARTED with the white supremacists. Being black, brown or foreign is not in itself hateful. The white supremacists act on their hate WITHOUT provocation.

Republicans have been catering to this hatred ever since Nixon when it became obvious that Republican leadership is screwing the American people. They have since become dependent on emotional outrage to bypass common sense and secure votes and Trump is just the most extreme example so far.

The Newsweek cover is nothing more than a mirror held up in front of Republicans, many of whom may not even realize how ugly their bigotry is.
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Aug 6, 2019 00:14:21   #
tactful wrote:
isn't it quite possible unless pennywise can stir up the same pot again to keep out of jail,the same percentage will vote him out,only with some newer voters?

Yes, and I think that's why "pennywise" (good one) keeps stirring the pot.

tactful wrote:

where do we find or see all these crying,screaming,kicking they ... inquiring minds would like to know,it wreaks of 8chun or what may go on there,most here could love.

I was in North Carolina when Obama was elected in 2008 and I used to listen to the local radio programs. I'm not joking, I was shocked at some of the callers. I had no idea racism was so rampant. I mean these people were unglued... literally freaked out and spitting angry.

tactful wrote:

hard to fathom anyone searching for so much luv.have we all got the children trained in bomb shelter tactics,has everyone else had to worry about a foreign power this much lately? yeah,me too. there were never issues of anyone's race even thought about before,it must be crowded in psyche,glad it's not mine.

Not sure what your saying here.
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Aug 6, 2019 00:01:03   #
nwtk2007 wrote:
That is true of a few, no doubt. But not the white man in gereral.

No, and that's a good point to make...
I'm a white man myself and I'm pretty sure the majority of white men are more like me. Even when I referred to Trump supporters, I was careful to specify the bigots among them, not the whole group.
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Aug 5, 2019 23:57:15   #
Radiance3 wrote:
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The Latinos must come legally to the US. We have sovereign rights just like all other countries. If they come illegally they are violating the laws, and they must return to their home country.

If you come illegally to the US you must go back where you came from. Then come legally by following all the requirements. Anybody who come legally can stay. The law breakers must go home.


Gee Radiance thanks for filling me in... All this time I thought anyone can just walk over the border. So there are illegal immigrants? ;)

Look, the Latino population is the fastest growing demographic in America today and it's not all coming from illegal border crossings. Most of the growth is coming from good old-fashioned reproduction and according to our constitution, anyone born in this country is automatically a U.S. citizen. So again... white racists just need to deal with it... or find somewhere else to live.
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Aug 5, 2019 23:23:01   #
nwtk2007 wrote:
But it has everything to do with Obama!

Actually, I think Obama is partly to blame... Not for anything intentional but just the fact that a black man made it to the White House. I was shocked at the tantrums thrown by white people who just cannot tolerate the thought of a black president. They were crying, screaming, kicking... Then they started consoling each other with promises to revenge.

All Trump did was tap into that rage and the revenge he promised was 80% of what gave him the votes he needed to win. Of course the bigots that find Trump's revenge appealing don't stop at black presidents, they don't like Mexicans either or Muslims or gays or any immigrants that aren't white and since Trump is trying to tap into all these prejudices with his revenge policies and racist rallies it brings all lot of simmering hatred to a rolling boil. This, no doubt contributes to the recent rise in both hate group memberships and hate crimes.
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Aug 5, 2019 23:13:12   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
Eagle-eye, so far you are the only one with the right takeaway. Othe than they didn't blame the gun, I don't feel qualified to comment. The reasons are classified.


LOL - That's such a load of crap. "Uh, I can't comment - it's classified." That just sounds like a dork trying to impress someone. Ha, ha!
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Aug 5, 2019 23:06:52   #
ImLogicallyRight wrote:
It is hard to look at something like that manifesto. It is so true on so many points. It is just that he had enough and felt the need to take drastic action. But in many ways, he had a good picture of the situation in America. And no, it had nothing to do with Trump.

While *some* of his points might be true, his answer was not something the rest if us should have to accept. If he feels white people are loosing their edge to a growing Latino population, he needs to deal with it. Populations change. It won't be the end of the world if white people become a minority and if he doesn't like it he can leave.
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Aug 5, 2019 22:59:21   #
Divine truth wrote:
WOW, WOW act of domestic terrorism in the most recent shooting, demonstrates more to come, and our children's are taking matters into their hands to do what your representative can't do, or isn't doing.

Because, they don't represent you, just the district you live in, and a foreign power. I reiterate, this is the beginning of sorrows, and the tip of the iceberg.

Back to back mass shooting, what is happening to our Caucasian young people, and black Americans youths and young adults?

Revoking against the system, and expressing their pain, dissatisfaction, frustration, distress and mental anguish, in acts of terrorism and violents.

What message are they sending to us, the world and our so-called leadership. Is martial law the effective respond and answer to the matter.

I contacted my State district representative office last month, seeking to enact a bill to charge kids mother's and Father's with the same crime, their children commit in the public.

Let's take drastic action now, before its to late. Judicial Officials implemented a kids for cash program in one City's.

In New York City, this kids for cash is also established and in place, in Brooklyn family Court and the children law center. I'm sure it's in others cities as well.

Babies are having babies, and the children are growing up and without parental guidance.

About 45% of African Americans young girls are have embrace lesbism and are extremely violence's. Respect, for others and law enforcement is gone out the window.

Satan's have replaced God in some people life, and in Walmart they are selling Satanic toys and items.

I just signed a petition against this practice, which resonate with the recent act of domestic terrorism, and shooting. There is a Nexus.

Wake up Americans, before its to late.
WOW, WOW act of domestic terrorism in the most rec... (show quote)


Uh, oh... this sounds like another manifesto in the making...

Seriously, dude... What's with all the Satan crap? The toys WalMart sells has NOTHING to do with what happened. The terrorist's manifesto couldn't be more clear... He wasn't concerned with Satanic toys, he was concerned about the influx of immigrants. A baseless fear that has been stoked by the sad excuse we currently have for a President because his popularity depends on his ability to incite rage.

Most people can keep it under control but obviously some people that are easily misled are also mentally deranged.
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Aug 5, 2019 22:39:10   #
slatten49 wrote:
Read and understand the seeming complexity of our 'democratic republic,' Birdman.

http://factmyth.com/factoids/the-united-states-of-america-is-a-democracy/

Brief excerpts....

"The United States is Both a Republic and a Democracy (a Representative Democracy)

One way to phrase this is the United States of America is a 'representative republic' (a 'representative democracy,' in a Republic).

The people democratically vote for representatives, who then represent them in government. Thus, in simple terms, the United States of America is both a Democracy and a Republic in this sense.

The bottom line here is: The United States of America is a Republic with a Representative Democracy (a type of Democracy, but not a Pure Direct Democracy). Therefore, while technically a republic, it isn’t incorrect to refer to the U.S. as a democracy (or more specifically as a representative democracy) in most contexts."
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I just responded to Birdman and then saw you pretty much said the same thing, perhaps with a little more patience. I just remember saying this to him a long time ago and it made no difference. Some people just don't want to change their minds and to that end they will ignore the facts.
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Aug 5, 2019 22:32:20   #
eagleye13 wrote:
Well; thank goodness we are not a Democracy; The USA is a Republic, with federal government restraints.
That is the main purpose of the Constitution.

Man, you STILL haven't learned the basics... It's third grade level dude... Republics are NOT an alternative to democracy, they are an alternative to monarchy. In fact, most Republics ARE democracies including our own... Maybe I can make it more simple for you... If you vote, your in a democracy. How you don't get that just blows my mind.

I guess all that brain washing is really working on you. There's been a cultural movement over the past 30 years that seeks to erode American faith in democracy because democracy means self-determination and the last thing the people behind this movement want is Americans who determine their own future. Recently, with the arrival of social media, this movement has found ways to saturate your attention with false premises, like how America isn't supposed to be a democracy. This is supposed to erode the American will to protect our democracy.

In case, you didn't know the alternative to democracy is tyranny. And we are now in a more advanced phase of this movement where emotional rhetoric is used to drive people into the arms of tyranny, which is how fascism works and the Trump administration is making this super-obvious.

BTW, China and North Korea are also republics, the difference is that our republic leverages more democracy. At least for now... Give the Republicans a little time and we will be no better off than China.
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Aug 5, 2019 22:04:56   #
proud republican wrote:
How am i suppressing anything when the biggest Troll like you can espouse hate about President and people who support him and still be on this site?????..If was suppressing anything i would be reporting you to Admin for hater that you are,durak!!!


Who's blaming you? Are you responsible for the gerrymandering? I don't think so. We aren't blaming Republican sheep, it's the Republican politicians that are suppressing votes through gerrymandering and so-called voter fraud systems like Kobach's idiot crosscheck system.
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Aug 5, 2019 07:44:11   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
The Arab/Israeli conflict began with the Jaffa riots in 1921, and except for brief periods of relative peace, it has been going on ever since.

The land once known as Canaan or Palestine or the Promised Land had been the home of the Jews for at least 20 centuries before Islam was founded in 632 AD.

In 1010 BCE, King David established the Kingdom of Israel, 1600 years before the advent of Islam.

Beginning in the 19th century, archeological expeditions in Israel and surrounding areas have uncovered thousands of sites, hamlets, villages, temples, burial grounds, tombs, wells, and millions of artifacts--pottery, coins, amulets, scrolls, carvings, and many other items, all of which revealed a Hebrew presence in the land, some dating back to 1500 BCE, Then there are the Dead Sea Scrolls, discovered in the Qumran Caves by a Bedouin shepherd boy. These date back to the 3rd century BCE.

Nothing, not one artifact, was ever found there that revealed that a people called "Palestinians" ever lived there, nothing indicated a Palestinian culture, language, tradition or physical presence of any kind.

Israel map throughout history

The name "Palestinian" referring to a collection of Arabs from the area in and around Trans Jordan was first used in 1964AD.

The vast literature proving the historic Jewish connection to the Land of Israel has been extensively manipulated and distorted as part of the Palestinian politics of nationalism. Propaganda, indoctrination, and socialization, both domestically and internationally, are essential parts of the strategy and tactics of asserting Palestinian nationhood and statehood. By appropriating to themselves the values, traditions, and historical facts that belong to the Jews, Palestinians have managed to fabricate a "legitimate" history and political traditions out of nothing while denying those of Israel.

Founding National Myths: Fabricating Palestinian History

I understand your argument, you are a progressive ideologue, and as such you are by default an anti-Semite. So go ahead and politicize and proselytize and propagandize the existence and rights of a great people who are now and have always been in an existential struggle against extinction.
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Let me start by reminding you that my first response on this thread was to defend the Jews. I stated that we can't blame the Jews for Israeli aggression against Palestinians and proceeded to identify Zionists as the culprits (not all Jews but some Jews, not all Christians but some Christians).. So you need to start paying attention to what people say instead of assuming the same tired old arguments.

And no, being a progressive doesn't "automatically" make me anything. Perhaps that's hard for you to fathom since the flock model of the extreme right is saturated with automated opinions. It's a little different for free thinkers. You should try it.

And since we're nit-picking semantic history, let me also point out that the term "Semitic" refers to a linguistic group that came out of Africa and the Middle East and that includes the original Jews AND the Arabs. So when someone is sticking up for the Palestinians, they are not technically being anti-Semitic.

As for the Jewish right to the land... think about this... if the Jews have a right to call the land their own because the once had a kingdom there thousands of years ago, then by the same logic we should be giving America back to the Indians. Ancient history is good for references but it's not a legal book of rights and what matters is how people are treated today, not what happened thousands of years ago.

So, after all your irrelevant fussing, I'm just going to restate my original agreement with the OP... Indeed, the way Zionist Israel is treating the Palestinians is a violation of human rights and it makes themselves and all their Christian supporters that much less "human". Try as you might, you can't justify these violations of human rights by fussing over ancient history.
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Aug 4, 2019 21:28:20   #
eagleye13 wrote:
Straighten Up.
I have diagnosed your ailment and the solution.
You have water on the brain.
Stay out of the water; and that includes surfing.

Thank you doctor eagle. I'll be sure to do the opposite. lol
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Aug 4, 2019 15:33:27   #
dtucker300 wrote:
I was also a never-Trump(er). But he is what we got, the duly-elected President regardless of what the left and Hilliary's minions believe. And to prove it they were out the very next day after the election demonstrating against his Presidency which hadn't even started yet. They have used every Orwellian, Machiavellian, and Alinsky tactic of rebellion to overturn the election result that they were unwilling to accept.

Ah, the drama... You DO realize that the Democrats accepted the election results within the week. Since then their attention was on the flaws of the electoral system as a way to prevent getting screwed the same way again, not to refute the previous election.

dtucker300 wrote:

So we do the best we can with what we have, and Trump is what we have. To date, there is not one Democratic Party candidate worth his salt.

Does that matter now that Trump has lowered the standard? ANY of those candidates could do better than him.

dtucker300 wrote:

Everyone is running an anti-Trump campaign. They have no vision for the future of America.

Yes they do... but right now they just need to save America from Trump.

dtucker300 wrote:

The Republican Party is not much better. They haven't found anyone to challenge Trump's second run for the White House.

Why would they want to? They finally found a useful idiot.

dtucker300 wrote:

People get the kind of government they deserve.

In a perfect democracy yes, but not in a distorted democracy like ours where someone who looses by 3 million votes still wins the game.

dtucker300 wrote:

If we lose our liberty (i.e. Give up our freedoms) in exchange for security from the state, in the guise of democratic socialism, we will have fulfilled the promise of the communists and progressives who started us down this path more than a century ago.

Those who are trading in our freedom for security are not democratic socialists. That award clearly goes to the alt-right who are too scared to go down the path of progress.
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Aug 4, 2019 15:07:17   #
eagleye13 wrote:
The Delusional one has returned.
AND
He hasn't straightened up!

Welcome back from your sabbatical.


:)
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