Not insults - observations. You're just insulted because you don't like what I am noticing. The "FU" at the end of your post sums it up pretty well. You don't have the ability to dispute my observations so you get huffy and stomp off. Probably better that you did.

Have a nice day :)

Why would a president-elect ask for a recount? The fact is, he never did. You're obviously confused. First of all, it wasn't the popular vote that was being questioned it was the EC vote and it was the Democrats that demanded it while Trump blasted them for it. Hillary stopped it because it became obvious a recount wouldn't expose the corruption that allowed a 3,000,000 vote deficit in the populus to be cancelled out in the EC.


LOL - Ya wanna try explaining how the media or ANY government agency can OVERCOME the popular vote? I'd love to hear it.


Says the guy who thinks the media can OVERCOME the popular vote. Man, you are the funniest guy on here.


If by "our side" you mean Democrats... there has NEVER been a single Democrat victory in the EC that didn't echo a victory in the popular vote. Only two presidents so far have won the EC while losing the popular vote, Bush Jr. (by a little) and Trump (by a LOT).

Seriously, thanks for the laughs.

I realize you're responding to Peter here, not me but as you know, I already explained the contextual value of using the word "serve". Call it an overemphasis to illustrate a point.


Being a Canadian I think you get a pass on this one. It's not your "obligation" to understand the politics of another country. But I've answered this one too...

No... the American people have no obligation to the president. In fact, it's the other way around. The POTUS is a "public servant" which means he has an obligation to the people, not the other way around.

LOL - OK.

LOL - I'm going to start counting how many right-wing nutbags are reacting to things I never said. I never said Trump has anything to do with the drop. In fact the point of my post is to show how the market moves WITHOUT Trump's involvement.

I'm just laughing my ass off at how one week all these Trumplicans and hailing their hero for driving the stock market up and the next week when it dives, they insist he has nothing to do with it. It's funny as hell and so far only one person caught the joke.

And if he did, does that make it okay for Trump to lie? "Mommy, mommy, Mikey did it too!" LOL

Awesome Meme!

You're way better at slinging baseless memes than understanding the economy Don.

No, he didn't.
But you WANT me to say yes he did, don't you? lol

I guess you will just have to rely on the same tired old trick and just lie about what I am saying. It's standard right-wing practice.

Yup, pretty much.

I never said it should. See, this is what you sad people do and you think we don't notice. instead of understanding what we are saying you just assume we are saying something else.


Wow, aren't you the expert! Is that why you call yourself an economist because you know that the market has money in it?


Buffet has also issued warnings that Trump is bad news for long term stability.


Yup... the key is to sell before the bubble pops and that's fine for people who have nothing else to do but play the market. For working Americans with real jobs and families to feed there isn't enough time to play games, what they need is a stable Main Street, not an exciting Wall Street.



Not really. I've seen this happen before numerous times. Here's another picture that includes the spikes in recent years that you intentionally left out to make the spike under Trump look better. Here's the link to the original chart... [ur]https://www.macrotrends.net/2324/sp-500-historical-chart-data[/url]. I did a little editing to overlay your image so you and everyone else can see your little trick. I also annotated a few other points, that I'm sure you won't like.

https://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/upload/2020/2/25/t1-371431-acrotrends_toeconomistdon1.jpg

A couple of things to point out, Grasshopper...

1. you can make the smallest spikes look fantastic if you cut out the rest of the picture. ;)
2. there were bigger spikes under the previous two presidents.
3. the highest sustained growth rate was under Obama. (green dotted lines).

So, if you're trying to defend Trump's "economic policies" you might want to reconsider your choice of props.

Look, I've made a lot of money in stocks Don... You don't have to tell me how it works. All I am saying in my original post is that the market is fickle and that Trump has no more control over the stock market than any other president has had.

You got part of it right. The hope and confidence part... But it was NEVER about confidence in the president's ability to govern. It was ALWAYS about confidence and hope in the opportunities created to make money. Now I'm sure you think that's a good thing for the American people, but that's not necessarily the case. Offshoring jobs was also an opportunity for making money - and how did THAT turn out for the American people?

Then what you're saying is that no one actually believes Trump is responsible for the soaring market. That leaves us with no other option but to assume all that chest-beating a few weeks ago was just baseless taunting.

I guess this is where America is now. No more honest discussions, just rabid taunts and insults.

Look at the economic trend...

https://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/upload/2020/2/16/t1-437345-real_and_potential_gdp.jpg

It's pretty obvious where the turn around is.

The only thing that changed since Trump came along is that real GDP has exceeded potential GDP, which indicates an over-extension of the economy which is never good for the stability of a nation.

Well, I DID say that... "I could NOT convince any of his followers that he wasn't entirely responsible for it." So one can imagine that I'm referring to the people I've actually had discussions with who support Trump's claim that he is entirely responsible for the stock market (when it's looking good, that is).


Well, you need to say it again because there's people on this very site that have echoed Trump's claim that the stock market is a solid sign that he is saving the economy.


I think that's just the way you want to see it. I never said Trump was the first one to claim credit for the stock market. Most presidents like to report the stock market as an indication that the economy is strong. But I've never seen people give any of those presidents as much credit for it as Trump fans are claiming for the clown.


This pandemic, with or without the 24 hour news cycle, may well be the first crisis Trump has ever had to deal with that he didn't actually make up as part of his confidence game.

Why? 'cause you can't?


You obviously didn't understand what I was saying. I said the Constitution is very clear about the president NOT being elected by the people but by Congress via their proxy the EC. What part of that sounds to you like I'm disagreeing with the rules?

Seriously, I made it clear enough for a child to understand it and yet, you don't. Truly amazing.

This is exactly why the right get's the reputation for being less intelligent. They can't even understand the simplest things. Or they refuse to. Honestly, I can't tell if it's stupidity or obstinance. But supporting Trump for a second term kind of makes it easier to guess.