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Mar 21, 2024 21:00:59 #
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manning5me wrote:
Quite so, Zemirah! Buffalo Bill to Barnum & Bailey is a good start. But they were all riding pink-dressed donkeys with painted nails in the finale...
Of course they were.
Without a proper shout out to their LGBTQ++ supporters, by properly attired and toe nail painted donkey Queens, the day's unconstitutional persecution/prosecution of America's only viable presidential candidate could not have been adjourned for the day.
Mar 21, 2024 11:58:44 #
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Excellent summary, manning!
Also, an astute observation of Donald John Trump's collective of opponents, as they are literally twisting themselves into pretzels in their limitless and frenzied multi-attempts to destroy this All-American blue-collared billionaire's appeal to normal, natural, unrefined Yankee-Doodle-Dandy Americans... which is not going to happen, -
because we get it!
Middle of the road Americans get his over the top dialogue and his sense of humor.
This Donald John Trump is a man we would choose as a reliable ally and trustworthy companion if in a foxhole on a wartime setting... and that is not too far off when used to describe this nation's present predicament.
It is in their continual pursuit of fulfilling every liberal progressive's ancient dream of becoming "as God," - as well as their own personal jealousy of Trump that has allowed the former president's enemies to so overestimate themselves as to create within this nation's routinely scheduled year of presidential campaigning, the unprecedented frenzied atmosphere of a Buffalo Bill Cody wild west rodeo show, operating within a Barnum and Bailey three ring circus, within our nation's courtrooms.
Personally, manning, I applaud "his pettiness, and bull-in-the-china-shop attitude" - the Good Lord knows we American citizens need a good jolt of something to awaken us from our trance-like doldrums [a period of stagnation, and slothful listlessness] as our nation is teetering on the edge of an ever sharpening precipice!
Also, an astute observation of Donald John Trump's collective of opponents, as they are literally twisting themselves into pretzels in their limitless and frenzied multi-attempts to destroy this All-American blue-collared billionaire's appeal to normal, natural, unrefined Yankee-Doodle-Dandy Americans... which is not going to happen, -
because we get it!
Middle of the road Americans get his over the top dialogue and his sense of humor.
This Donald John Trump is a man we would choose as a reliable ally and trustworthy companion if in a foxhole on a wartime setting... and that is not too far off when used to describe this nation's present predicament.
It is in their continual pursuit of fulfilling every liberal progressive's ancient dream of becoming "as God," - as well as their own personal jealousy of Trump that has allowed the former president's enemies to so overestimate themselves as to create within this nation's routinely scheduled year of presidential campaigning, the unprecedented frenzied atmosphere of a Buffalo Bill Cody wild west rodeo show, operating within a Barnum and Bailey three ring circus, within our nation's courtrooms.
Personally, manning, I applaud "his pettiness, and bull-in-the-china-shop attitude" - the Good Lord knows we American citizens need a good jolt of something to awaken us from our trance-like doldrums [a period of stagnation, and slothful listlessness] as our nation is teetering on the edge of an ever sharpening precipice!
manning5me wrote:
Trump's candidacy for president is an overwhelming... (show quote)
Mar 21, 2024 07:57:01 #
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She should have sat down in shame, and permanently remained silent after declaring herself unable to define what a woman was at her confirmation!
Oldsailor65 wrote:
Ketanji Jackson comments got 'even worse' after fr... (show quote)
Mar 21, 2024 07:51:23 #
The video is excellent, Parky 
For those who do not watch videos, the printed word is still priceless for detail:
Communism and Marxism: Different, Yet the Same ~ Deceptive, godless Atheistic Violent Tyranny
19th-century Atheist, German philosopher Karl Marx, the founder and primary theorist of Marxism, viewed religion as "the soul of soulless conditions" or the "opium of the masses."
Communism and Marxism are often conflated, but there is a basic difference between the two ideologies. Karl Marx developed the theory of Marxism, which focuses on his self perceived, imagined class struggle to lead to social change, while the existence of any form of Supernaturalism or Deity is not acknowledged to be even a possibility...
The stated utopic goal of Marxism is the creation of a materialistic society in which everyone receives equal material wealth.
Communism was developed by Vladimir Lenin, based upon Karl Marx's Marxist theory, in order to implement it.
The key professed difference between communism and Marxism is that communists believe in using violence to achieve their goals, while Marxists claim that they do not. Both ideologies, however, have been used historically, as a justification for committing terrible atrocities, even as they deny that their philosophies are inherently evil.
Learning about these godless theories that so oppose and threaten a free society in advance equips a nation's citizenry, especially its youth, to understand world events as they recognize these man-made philosophical ideologies at play, and to make better informed personal and political decisions whenever confronted by them.
According to Marx, religion in this world of exploitation is only the people's expression of distress, as well as their protest against their real distress. IOW, according to Marx, religion continues to survive because of oppressive social conditions. Marx theorized that when this oppressive and exploitative condition is destroyed, religion will become unnecessary, as he simultaneously, saw religion as a form of protest by the working classes against their poor economic conditions and their "alienation."
Denys Turner, a Marx and historical theology scholar, classified Marx's views as "Post-Theism," a philosophical position that the worshiping of God, or any deities, although it will eventually be obsolete, is a temporarily necessary stage in human spiritual development as all humanity is freed from any need to worship.
In the Marxist-Leninist interpretation, all modern religions and churches are considered as "organs of proletarian/elitist reaction" serving to achieve the purpose of "the exploitation and the stupefaction of the working class." A number of Marxist-Leninist governments in the 20th century such as the Soviet Union after Vladimir Lenin and the People's Republic of China under Mao Zedong, implemented rules outlawing religion and introducing state atheism.
Chronic unsettled confusion obscures the existing differences between Communism and Marxism. At times, the two terms are used interchangeably, and at others are treated as completely different ideologies. Any differences now existing between the two concepts have evolved over time.
Marxism as an economic and social system based upon the political and economic theories of Karl Marx, has formed the foundation of existing communist societies around the world.
It was founded by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in the 19th century. "Marxism" teaches that capitalism is a mode of production where the capitalists/ bourgeoisie continually exploit the proletariat/workers.
Marxism is considered one of the most important theories in history, having reshaped our understanding of capitalism, socialism, and communism, as it has been used to justify revolutions and uprisings around the world. It's use has also created some of history's most oppressive regimes.
Communism is a political and economic system based on the ideas fomented by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in seeking the mechanism whereby they might create a "classless society."
Communism is a system in which the government owns the means of production, there is no private property, and, it is claimed, in which everyone receives a pay amount from their Communist masters that is "according to their individual needs."
Communism is the final stage of socialism. It is a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs... as determined by those Communist elites who have risen to ruling positions of power. It's claim is to be a society that is free from all exploitation, oppression, and class distinction.
The Differences between Communism and Marxism
Definition: Marxism is an economic and political theory, while Communism is the governmental vehicular form used to implement Marxism upon the people.
Date: Marxism, as a theory, was created in the 1840s; Communism was then actualized with the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917, capturing the Russian government.
Focus: Marxism's focus is on propagandizing the working classes into believing they have a perpetual struggle against the elite/upper class, while Communism's focus is upon creating a classless society.
Achievement: Marxism is achieved through a violent revolution, while Communism can be achieved either by peaceful revolution, or through violence - whichever is required.
Belief: Marxism believes in the existence of a class struggle while Communism does not.
Application: Marxism is applied in a country once it has become a Socialist state, while Communism has no intermediary, and is applied from the beginning.
Dependency: Marxism is dependent on economic conditions while Communism is not.
Claimed Goals: The goal of Marxism is to create a classless society while the goal of Communism is to create a stateless, classless society - which then inevitably devolves into a Communist ruled state with Communist top leadership as the elite class.
Ownership: Marxism believes in "public" ownership of the means of production - with the Marxist leaders assuming control, and in charge, ostensibly "on behave of the public," while Communism believes in "collective ownership" of the means of production, through a collective of Communist party elites and manufacturing/production elites, again on behave of an invisible powerless "public."
Dictatorship: Marxism believes in a dictatorship of the proletariat while Communism does not believe in any form of dictatorship, although fully functioning as one.
Human nature: Marxism believes in the existence of a proletariat while Communists [as do Progressives] believe in the perfectibility of humans, which came straight from the hiss of the serpent in the Garden, "you shall be as God" (and the dream has never died).
Freedom: Marxism upholds the principle of freedom, although never producing it, while Communism makes no such claim.
Equality: Marxism claims to uphold the principle of equality while Communism does not bother.
Democracy: Marxism purports belief in a democratic state while Communism does not believe in democracy.
Internationalism: Marxism believes in the principle of internationalism while Communism does not, although, in reality, both seek world domination.
Science: Marxism upholds the "scientific method" while Communism makes no such claim.
Religion: Marxism is atheistic while Communism can assume the persona of either atheism or theism.
Human nature: Marxism believes in the existence of a proletariat while Communism claims not to believe in any form of class, although unavoidably creating one through their leader's inevitable powerful preeminence in any society they control.
For those who do not watch videos, the printed word is still priceless for detail:
Communism and Marxism: Different, Yet the Same ~ Deceptive, godless Atheistic Violent Tyranny
19th-century Atheist, German philosopher Karl Marx, the founder and primary theorist of Marxism, viewed religion as "the soul of soulless conditions" or the "opium of the masses."
Communism and Marxism are often conflated, but there is a basic difference between the two ideologies. Karl Marx developed the theory of Marxism, which focuses on his self perceived, imagined class struggle to lead to social change, while the existence of any form of Supernaturalism or Deity is not acknowledged to be even a possibility...
The stated utopic goal of Marxism is the creation of a materialistic society in which everyone receives equal material wealth.
Communism was developed by Vladimir Lenin, based upon Karl Marx's Marxist theory, in order to implement it.
The key professed difference between communism and Marxism is that communists believe in using violence to achieve their goals, while Marxists claim that they do not. Both ideologies, however, have been used historically, as a justification for committing terrible atrocities, even as they deny that their philosophies are inherently evil.
Learning about these godless theories that so oppose and threaten a free society in advance equips a nation's citizenry, especially its youth, to understand world events as they recognize these man-made philosophical ideologies at play, and to make better informed personal and political decisions whenever confronted by them.
According to Marx, religion in this world of exploitation is only the people's expression of distress, as well as their protest against their real distress. IOW, according to Marx, religion continues to survive because of oppressive social conditions. Marx theorized that when this oppressive and exploitative condition is destroyed, religion will become unnecessary, as he simultaneously, saw religion as a form of protest by the working classes against their poor economic conditions and their "alienation."
Denys Turner, a Marx and historical theology scholar, classified Marx's views as "Post-Theism," a philosophical position that the worshiping of God, or any deities, although it will eventually be obsolete, is a temporarily necessary stage in human spiritual development as all humanity is freed from any need to worship.
In the Marxist-Leninist interpretation, all modern religions and churches are considered as "organs of proletarian/elitist reaction" serving to achieve the purpose of "the exploitation and the stupefaction of the working class." A number of Marxist-Leninist governments in the 20th century such as the Soviet Union after Vladimir Lenin and the People's Republic of China under Mao Zedong, implemented rules outlawing religion and introducing state atheism.
Chronic unsettled confusion obscures the existing differences between Communism and Marxism. At times, the two terms are used interchangeably, and at others are treated as completely different ideologies. Any differences now existing between the two concepts have evolved over time.
Marxism as an economic and social system based upon the political and economic theories of Karl Marx, has formed the foundation of existing communist societies around the world.
It was founded by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in the 19th century. "Marxism" teaches that capitalism is a mode of production where the capitalists/ bourgeoisie continually exploit the proletariat/workers.
Marxism is considered one of the most important theories in history, having reshaped our understanding of capitalism, socialism, and communism, as it has been used to justify revolutions and uprisings around the world. It's use has also created some of history's most oppressive regimes.
Communism is a political and economic system based on the ideas fomented by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in seeking the mechanism whereby they might create a "classless society."
Communism is a system in which the government owns the means of production, there is no private property, and, it is claimed, in which everyone receives a pay amount from their Communist masters that is "according to their individual needs."
Communism is the final stage of socialism. It is a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs... as determined by those Communist elites who have risen to ruling positions of power. It's claim is to be a society that is free from all exploitation, oppression, and class distinction.
The Differences between Communism and Marxism
Definition: Marxism is an economic and political theory, while Communism is the governmental vehicular form used to implement Marxism upon the people.
Date: Marxism, as a theory, was created in the 1840s; Communism was then actualized with the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917, capturing the Russian government.
Focus: Marxism's focus is on propagandizing the working classes into believing they have a perpetual struggle against the elite/upper class, while Communism's focus is upon creating a classless society.
Achievement: Marxism is achieved through a violent revolution, while Communism can be achieved either by peaceful revolution, or through violence - whichever is required.
Belief: Marxism believes in the existence of a class struggle while Communism does not.
Application: Marxism is applied in a country once it has become a Socialist state, while Communism has no intermediary, and is applied from the beginning.
Dependency: Marxism is dependent on economic conditions while Communism is not.
Claimed Goals: The goal of Marxism is to create a classless society while the goal of Communism is to create a stateless, classless society - which then inevitably devolves into a Communist ruled state with Communist top leadership as the elite class.
Ownership: Marxism believes in "public" ownership of the means of production - with the Marxist leaders assuming control, and in charge, ostensibly "on behave of the public," while Communism believes in "collective ownership" of the means of production, through a collective of Communist party elites and manufacturing/production elites, again on behave of an invisible powerless "public."
Dictatorship: Marxism believes in a dictatorship of the proletariat while Communism does not believe in any form of dictatorship, although fully functioning as one.
Human nature: Marxism believes in the existence of a proletariat while Communists [as do Progressives] believe in the perfectibility of humans, which came straight from the hiss of the serpent in the Garden, "you shall be as God" (and the dream has never died).
Freedom: Marxism upholds the principle of freedom, although never producing it, while Communism makes no such claim.
Equality: Marxism claims to uphold the principle of equality while Communism does not bother.
Democracy: Marxism purports belief in a democratic state while Communism does not believe in democracy.
Internationalism: Marxism believes in the principle of internationalism while Communism does not, although, in reality, both seek world domination.
Science: Marxism upholds the "scientific method" while Communism makes no such claim.
Religion: Marxism is atheistic while Communism can assume the persona of either atheism or theism.
Human nature: Marxism believes in the existence of a proletariat while Communism claims not to believe in any form of class, although unavoidably creating one through their leader's inevitable powerful preeminence in any society they control.
Parky60 wrote:
Curtis Bowers, award-winning creator of the docume... (show quote)
Mar 20, 2024 02:33:58 #
"Do as I say, NOT as I do" never has worked, NM.
Professing Christians have been trying it for 2,000 years; the Jewish people tried it for 2,000 years before that.
Forty years ago, in a setting of upperly mobile housewives nestling down for their weekly Bible study, the priorities were similarly eskewed.
No interest in the meanings of Biblical phrases, verses or chapters, but a lot of conversation regarding their newest appliance (the color was Avocado) at that time, or gold drapes for the living room picture window, or the latest trending film.
This generation must do what every generation has done...
That is to personally build a relationship with Jesus Christ through faith in His death, crucifixion and resurrection.
For many, that's too simplistic.
The Bible says "Work out your own salvation with trembling and fear."
This generation is in the most perilous times any generation has been since the first century.
We Are Told to be courageous and to stand fast, no backtracking and no surrender.
Professing Christians have been trying it for 2,000 years; the Jewish people tried it for 2,000 years before that.
Forty years ago, in a setting of upperly mobile housewives nestling down for their weekly Bible study, the priorities were similarly eskewed.
No interest in the meanings of Biblical phrases, verses or chapters, but a lot of conversation regarding their newest appliance (the color was Avocado) at that time, or gold drapes for the living room picture window, or the latest trending film.
This generation must do what every generation has done...
That is to personally build a relationship with Jesus Christ through faith in His death, crucifixion and resurrection.
For many, that's too simplistic.
The Bible says "Work out your own salvation with trembling and fear."
This generation is in the most perilous times any generation has been since the first century.
We Are Told to be courageous and to stand fast, no backtracking and no surrender.
Mar 20, 2024 01:33:17 #
There are millions of Evangelicals.
Evangelicals derives from the Biblical Greek word, "evaugelion" meaning "the good news" or the "Gospel."
Remove this from Christianity, you have nothing.
The Evangelical faith is the good news, the Gospel of salvation through faith in Jesus Christ and Him crucified.
Those who believe themselves to be in trouble, spiritually, likely are. (Romans 1:17; Habakkuk 2:4; Galatians 3:11)
God gave each of us a conscience.
Evangelicals derives from the Biblical Greek word, "evaugelion" meaning "the good news" or the "Gospel."
Remove this from Christianity, you have nothing.
The Evangelical faith is the good news, the Gospel of salvation through faith in Jesus Christ and Him crucified.
Those who believe themselves to be in trouble, spiritually, likely are. (Romans 1:17; Habakkuk 2:4; Galatians 3:11)
God gave each of us a conscience.
NotMAGA wrote:
An interesting article written by Russell Moore, f... (show quote)
Mar 20, 2024 00:48:47 #
Whatever God's people thought for three or four minutes is really irrelevant in the historical scheme of things.
God promised regularity in the seasons. He also promised special signs in the heavens that would bring wonderment to mankind. (Genesis 1:14; Psalm 65:5 )
There are more pertinent verses, those are the ones that comes to mind at the minute.
It's doubtful that many, if any, could have reached a sufficient state of panic in that brief timespan to do themselves or others any permanent damage.
After all, they were momentarily
stumbling around in the dark!
Being in on the ground floor of this first time phenomenon was an honor.
After this, it would be but another eclipse.
God promised regularity in the seasons. He also promised special signs in the heavens that would bring wonderment to mankind. (Genesis 1:14; Psalm 65:5 )
There are more pertinent verses, those are the ones that comes to mind at the minute.
It's doubtful that many, if any, could have reached a sufficient state of panic in that brief timespan to do themselves or others any permanent damage.
After all, they were momentarily
stumbling around in the dark!
Being in on the ground floor of this first time phenomenon was an honor.
After this, it would be but another eclipse.
Mar 11, 2024 03:33:12 #
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fullspinzoo wrote:
https://uspoliticaldaily.com/john-kennedys-epic-takedown-of-so-called-bidenomics-will-leave-you-rolling-in-laughter/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=tln_2084493900&utm_term=&utm_content=
Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana, in spite of his name, is truly an original, both witty and wise!He is one of the very few national politicians who actually could both entertain and educate in a one-man-show.
Mar 6, 2024 05:20:55 #
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God forbid, indeed!
ACP45 wrote:
But God forbid, if my party calls, and says that the country needs me to run..... well, what can I say?
Feb 24, 2024 01:51:07 #
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It is not definitively known,though often investigated, where exactly this quote originated, but no authoritative source has ever been found linking it to Gandhi.
The same supposed words of Gandhi have been repeated three times in your posted quote above, but in the opening phrase, "[I] like your Christ, but not your Christianity." - the "I" was omitted, inadvertently making the copied supposed statement incomplete...
I re-added it [in brackets] to accurately portray it as it appears online.
Below is an article that appeared in the Harvard University newspaper, "The Harvard Crimson" in 1927, suggesting that the quote was a paraphrase from Oxford's Dr. Jesse Herman Holmes (1864-1942), a Quaker philosophy professor at Swarthmore College at Oxford, 1900-1937.
https://findingaids.library.upenn.edu/records/swarthmore_SFHL.RG5.064
Dr. Holmes was the president of the National Federation of Religious Liberals and an active member of the Socialist party, as well as an active participant in AFSC relief after World War I, traveling to oversee work in reconstruction throughout Europe:
"I like your Christ, but not your Christianity." In these words of Mahatma Gandhi, Dr. J.H. Holmes summed up the Indian leader's view of Christianity in a recent interview with a CRIMSON reporter. Dr. Holmes, professor of Philosophy at Swarthmore College and a member of the Society of Friends [a.k.a., Quakers], has just completed a tour around the world, during which he spent some time in India. He had several opportunities of conversing with Gandhi. He was present at the meeting of the All-Indian Congress and had the honor of being the only westerner ever allowed to speak from their platform."
Technology and science news site, Gizmodo: https://archive.vn/nv7CE
included this quote among other famous quotes often attributed to Gandhi, which have no evidential documentation that they were ever actually said by him.
Gizmodo traced the quote to a statement made by Indian philosopher Bara Dada, brother of Rabindranath Tagore.
The full quote from Dada is from the mid-1920s: "Jesus is ideal and wonderful, but you Christians, you are not like him."
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No, we Christians are not yet like Him; we are, however, forgiven through the grace of God, and we have His blessed promise as our assurance that we will become like Him!
1st John 3:1-3:
"Behold what manner of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God. And that is what we are! The reason the world does not know us is that it did not know Him.
Beloved, we are now children of God, and what we will be has not yet been revealed. We know that when Christ appears, we will be like Him, for we will see Him as He is.
And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as Christ is pure."
[quote=TJKMO]“I like your Christ, but not your Christianity."
In these words of Mahatma Gandhi, Dr. J.H. Holmes summed up the Indian leader's view of Christianity in a recent interview with a CRIMSON reporter.
Dr. Holmes, professor of Philosophy at Swarthmore College and a member of the Society of Friends, has just completed a tour around the world, during which he spent some time in India. He had several opportunities of conversing with Gandhi. He was present at the meeting of the All-Indian Congress and had the honor of being the only westerner ever allowed to speak from their platform.
Continuing in Gandhi's words, Dr. Holmes said, "I believe in the teachings of Christ, but you on the other side of the world do not, I read the Bible faithfully and see little in Christendom that those who profess faith pretend to see.
"The Christians above all others are seeking after wealth. Their aim is to be rich at the expense of their neighbors. They come among aliens to exploit them for their own good and cheat them to do so. Their prosperity is far more essential to them than the life, liberty, and happiness of others.”
"The Christians are the most warlike people."
"[I] like your Christ, but not your Christianity." In these words of Mahatma Gandhi, Dr. J.H. Holmes summed up the Indian leader's view of Christianity in a recent interview with a CRIMSON reporter. Dr. Holmes, professor of Philosophy at Swarthmore College and a member of the Society of Friends, has just completed a tour around the world, during which he spent some time in India. He had several opportunities of conversing with Gandhi. He was present at the meeting of the All-Indian Congress and had the honor of being the only westerner ever allowed to speak from their platform.
Continuing in Gandhi's words, Dr. Holmes said, "I believe in the teachings of Christ, but you on the other side of the world do not, I read the Bible faithfully and see little in Christendom that those who profess faith pretend to see.
"The Christians above all others are seeking after wealth. Their aim is to be rich at the expense of their neighbors. They come among aliens to exploit them for their own good and cheat them to do so. Their prosperity is far more essential to them than the life, liberty, and happiness of others.
"The Christians are the most warlike people.
"[I] like your Christ, but not your Christianity." In these words of Mahatma Gandhi, Dr. J.H. Holmes summed up the Indian leader's view of Christianity in a recent interview with a CRIMSON reporter. Dr. Holmes, professor of Philosophy at Swarthmore College and a member of the Society of Friends, has just completed a tour around the world, during which he spent some time in India. He had several opportunities of conversing with Gandhi. He was present at the meeting of the All-Indian Congress and had the honor of being the only westerner ever allowed to speak from their platform.
Continuing in Gandhi's words, Dr. Holmes said, "I believe in the teachings of Christ, but you on the other side of the world do not, I read the Bible faithfully and see little in Christendom that those who profess faith pretend to see.
"The Christians above all others are seeking after wealth. Their aim is to be rich at the expense of their neighbors. They come among aliens to exploit them for their own good and cheat them to do so. Their prosperity is far more essential to them than the life, liberty, and happiness of others.
"The Christians are the most warlike people.[/quote]
The same supposed words of Gandhi have been repeated three times in your posted quote above, but in the opening phrase, "[I] like your Christ, but not your Christianity." - the "I" was omitted, inadvertently making the copied supposed statement incomplete...
I re-added it [in brackets] to accurately portray it as it appears online.
Below is an article that appeared in the Harvard University newspaper, "The Harvard Crimson" in 1927, suggesting that the quote was a paraphrase from Oxford's Dr. Jesse Herman Holmes (1864-1942), a Quaker philosophy professor at Swarthmore College at Oxford, 1900-1937.
https://findingaids.library.upenn.edu/records/swarthmore_SFHL.RG5.064
Dr. Holmes was the president of the National Federation of Religious Liberals and an active member of the Socialist party, as well as an active participant in AFSC relief after World War I, traveling to oversee work in reconstruction throughout Europe:
"I like your Christ, but not your Christianity." In these words of Mahatma Gandhi, Dr. J.H. Holmes summed up the Indian leader's view of Christianity in a recent interview with a CRIMSON reporter. Dr. Holmes, professor of Philosophy at Swarthmore College and a member of the Society of Friends [a.k.a., Quakers], has just completed a tour around the world, during which he spent some time in India. He had several opportunities of conversing with Gandhi. He was present at the meeting of the All-Indian Congress and had the honor of being the only westerner ever allowed to speak from their platform."
Technology and science news site, Gizmodo: https://archive.vn/nv7CE
included this quote among other famous quotes often attributed to Gandhi, which have no evidential documentation that they were ever actually said by him.
Gizmodo traced the quote to a statement made by Indian philosopher Bara Dada, brother of Rabindranath Tagore.
The full quote from Dada is from the mid-1920s: "Jesus is ideal and wonderful, but you Christians, you are not like him."
=======================================
No, we Christians are not yet like Him; we are, however, forgiven through the grace of God, and we have His blessed promise as our assurance that we will become like Him!
1st John 3:1-3:
"Behold what manner of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God. And that is what we are! The reason the world does not know us is that it did not know Him.
Beloved, we are now children of God, and what we will be has not yet been revealed. We know that when Christ appears, we will be like Him, for we will see Him as He is.
And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as Christ is pure."
[quote=TJKMO]“I like your Christ, but not your Christianity."
In these words of Mahatma Gandhi, Dr. J.H. Holmes summed up the Indian leader's view of Christianity in a recent interview with a CRIMSON reporter.
Dr. Holmes, professor of Philosophy at Swarthmore College and a member of the Society of Friends, has just completed a tour around the world, during which he spent some time in India. He had several opportunities of conversing with Gandhi. He was present at the meeting of the All-Indian Congress and had the honor of being the only westerner ever allowed to speak from their platform.
Continuing in Gandhi's words, Dr. Holmes said, "I believe in the teachings of Christ, but you on the other side of the world do not, I read the Bible faithfully and see little in Christendom that those who profess faith pretend to see.
"The Christians above all others are seeking after wealth. Their aim is to be rich at the expense of their neighbors. They come among aliens to exploit them for their own good and cheat them to do so. Their prosperity is far more essential to them than the life, liberty, and happiness of others.”
"The Christians are the most warlike people."
"[I] like your Christ, but not your Christianity." In these words of Mahatma Gandhi, Dr. J.H. Holmes summed up the Indian leader's view of Christianity in a recent interview with a CRIMSON reporter. Dr. Holmes, professor of Philosophy at Swarthmore College and a member of the Society of Friends, has just completed a tour around the world, during which he spent some time in India. He had several opportunities of conversing with Gandhi. He was present at the meeting of the All-Indian Congress and had the honor of being the only westerner ever allowed to speak from their platform.
Continuing in Gandhi's words, Dr. Holmes said, "I believe in the teachings of Christ, but you on the other side of the world do not, I read the Bible faithfully and see little in Christendom that those who profess faith pretend to see.
"The Christians above all others are seeking after wealth. Their aim is to be rich at the expense of their neighbors. They come among aliens to exploit them for their own good and cheat them to do so. Their prosperity is far more essential to them than the life, liberty, and happiness of others.
"The Christians are the most warlike people.
"[I] like your Christ, but not your Christianity." In these words of Mahatma Gandhi, Dr. J.H. Holmes summed up the Indian leader's view of Christianity in a recent interview with a CRIMSON reporter. Dr. Holmes, professor of Philosophy at Swarthmore College and a member of the Society of Friends, has just completed a tour around the world, during which he spent some time in India. He had several opportunities of conversing with Gandhi. He was present at the meeting of the All-Indian Congress and had the honor of being the only westerner ever allowed to speak from their platform.
Continuing in Gandhi's words, Dr. Holmes said, "I believe in the teachings of Christ, but you on the other side of the world do not, I read the Bible faithfully and see little in Christendom that those who profess faith pretend to see.
"The Christians above all others are seeking after wealth. Their aim is to be rich at the expense of their neighbors. They come among aliens to exploit them for their own good and cheat them to do so. Their prosperity is far more essential to them than the life, liberty, and happiness of others.
"The Christians are the most warlike people.[/quote]
Feb 21, 2024 05:45:45 #
Marty 2020 wrote:
Jesus was most active in matters of love and mercy, grace and forgiveness. But He also had a strong sense of duty and responsibility to protect the place of worship. He whipped and held accountable, the thieves and money changers in the temple.
We need to remember this as we consider the response to Hamas.
We need to remember this as we consider the response to Hamas.
God does not change, Marty.Start where God started: Hamas is accountable, here on earth, to the lawful courts of justice administered by the duly authorized governments instituted by God through Moses, in the Covenant symbolized by the Rainbow He set in the heavens.
"So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them." (Genesis 1:27)
Genesis 9:5-6 Capital Punishment within the Covenant of the Rainbow:
"And surely I will require the life of any man or beast by whose hand your lifeblood is shed. I will demand an accounting from anyone who takes the life of his fellow man: Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man his blood will be shed; for in His own image God has made mankind."
God's Covenant is reaffirmed in the New Testament:
"For governmental authority is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, because it does not carry the sword without cause. They are God's servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the one who does wrong." (Romans 13:4)
As Christians, we follow our risen Lord in administering mercy, love and the gospel of Jesus Christ to the hurting and vulnerable whenever possible, as does Franklin Graham and Samaritan's Purse.
Concurrently, those responsible for administering the laws of Justice must apprehend and punish criminals, murderers... and all the lawless.
One does not contradict the other, our God can walk and chew gum simultaneously.
Feb 19, 2024 21:28:30 #
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JFlorio wrote:
Makes more sense to get rid of the Democrats.
That is the only solution that does make sense!!If our nation's most devout, patriotic and courageous citizens will, behind closed doors, prayerfully devise a workable plan to accomplish that ...and I hope it is already in progress.
Exodus 18:21
"Moreover, look for able men from all the people, men who fear God, who are trustworthy and hate a bribe, and place such men over the people as chiefs of thousands, of hundreds, of fifties, and of tens."
Where are these leaders?
Feb 11, 2024 03:34:09 #
AuntiE wrote:
b Franklin Graham, Samaritan’s Purse Replace Isra... (show quote)
Franklin Graham, and Samaritan's Purse, the organization he founded to honor and glorify Jesus Christ, are one of the most basic live streaming videos in the world today, of the sacrificial, uncompromising love commanded of His followers by Jesus Christ.
This is Christianity at its core.
James, the half brother of Jesus, said that faith, without the accompanying works resultant as the natural byproduct of that faith, is dead. (James 2:26)
If the world hears only our pious words, but no sacrificial action on our part, then Christianity is dismissed as a sounding brass or a clanging symbol of ineptitude.(1st Corinthians 13:1)
Jan 28, 2024 23:21:49 #
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How far we have fallen as a nation and as a people from a day when neither the government representing it's citizens, nationally, statewide, countywide or by municipality would negotiate with any robber, kidnapper, murderer, terrorist or criminal at all, understanding it would be like blood in the water to a shark.
Jan 28, 2024 22:44:59 #
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Marty, if you were ever turned loose with a real keyboard, William Shakespeare would surely tremble. 