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Dec 31, 2013 02:44:45   #
I agree with the SGT on this, I am very honored to be one of his peers.
The following is a reply I sent to one of the tea party nuts asking me for money via Ann Coulter.

"Wow! If I got a dollar for every politician that has asked me for money I might get to the living wage level. As a disabled veteran I am kept close to the poverty level, because I physically cannot do all the good stuff I used to do. My Veteran's benefits/entitlements are one of the things that I am entitled to because of my many years of service to the country, it was part of the bargain when I 1st enlisted and it seems the republican party wants to cut such "entitlements", and you want me to donate money to you. That is very ironic.

I want 12 parties running for that senate seat. Partisan politics is the downfall or failure of any real representative republic. I agree with Thomas Jefferson when he said that this country will need to have a revolution of sorts every 10 years or so just to keep a majority of the people involved in the activities of the government. You don't like a communist system that has a single party running the show and or a dictatorship. So there cannot be a single party controlling things here either. The way I see it now it seems that the republicans and democrats and any off-shoot parties of them are totally corrupted by GREED and EGO and none of them are truly there to serve all of the people, only their narrow views
and corporate masters.

You claim to be pro Constitution but you are against minorities, poor folks and college students voting and want to mandate the religious values of one religion on everyone. That is not the actions of someone who is pro Constitution.

We revolted against King Georges church as well as his taxation policies. If you look closely at the Constitution you will see where it says in the first amendment that the state shall not support religion at all, nor shall it restrict our rights to have what ever religion we so choose to have.
That means you cannot mandate the values, beliefs, or policies of any religion on all of the people, A religion or a belief is something that one has to desire to follow and it cannot be forced on anyone and have it be effective or even close to being acceptable. That is what a Quaker friend of mine told me about religion.

A government that is controlled by one religion has never worked, nor are they very friendly to those who have a different set of beliefs than those of the government. Rome fell not long after Constantine mandated one religion on everyone with his Catholic church, the old Russian state failed as a mandated jewish state as well.

History has proven that. And history is not an instruction manual, it is a warning of sorts telling us not to do these things like that again. You don't like the Islamic states, so let's not venture in that direction either."

Now! Some here may not agree with me but that is their right and I have respect for that.
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Dec 30, 2013 10:41:22   #
If you read our founding documents closely you will see that the power the government has is that allotted to it from the people. That means it is the people who hold the ultimate authority. The government has no more power than the citizens have. The government doesn't have the authority to grant itself more power than the people have to give it. That is if the Constitution is actually being adhered to anymore.
The people are their own leaders, the government is there to serve the needs of the people. I think it is time for "We the "people" to assert our authority over this run-away government and muzzle it and return it to it's kennel ASAP.
There is no "named" authority other than the people AKA the "citizens" of the country as being the source of any power the government may have.
Our duty as citizens is to the country that in-turn being our fellow citizens not the government. The governments duty is to serve the citizens, NOT the corporations or foreign interests.
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Dec 26, 2013 06:07:40   #
Moose, the jewish state is not a real friend of America. They killed over 35 of our people in 4 hours of constant attacks on the USS Liberty in 1967 and they were not admonished for it, nor did we bomb them or invade their country like we did with Iraq for not doing anything at all to us. Iraq had no ties to 911 nor did they have anything to do with it, no evidence has been found that can back any of Faux Snuz's claims of that, nor did they have any WMD but we sent over 5000 American troops to their death there all based on the brazen lies told by your daddy W Bush and his gang of &*(#@ thugs and scum of the universe you love so much. Your Liar-in-chief Bush is the real criminal and you kiss his butt for it. What hypocrisy, the murderer calling the thief a bad person. Yup we have had the lunatics running the asylum now for the last 45 years at least.
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Dec 26, 2013 03:12:13   #
Oh no, not at all. The point being is that all of those things we have now are from those lines of the Constitution you copied and pasted into your post.
It seems that you have failed to read many of them as well.
It is the duty of the government to look out for our security, safety and welfare in doing so they make regulations and enforcing agencies that try to do that as required per the Constitution. So you can stop with all this less regulation junk. We have over 300 million people spread out over 5 times the amount of land we had in 1776, so we can't get by on that initial amount of regulation and government involvement.

Unless you are living in a 17th century time vacuum, many things have changed, the population is much larger, and the nation in general, industry and most technology has advanced and continues to do so on a daily basis, (despite what some folks say is against their religion) so too must the means or methods of regulation change and advance along with the bodies they were set up within to protect the people.

If you think we can get by the laws and regulations from the 1800's let's do it. You better take a close look at the laws that governed corporations in the 1830/40's time frame and see if you parent corporation would like to live by them. I bet not.
Let's do away with the DOT and see if you can pave your own bloody roads. That too I bet you are not able to deal with along with ensuring your food is safe to eat. the air is safe to breath, and the water is clean enough to drink. If you can you have way too much free time and should get a real job to support your home farm, education, sewer, and road construction business's. How is that process of dumping your raw sewage into your drinking water supply that runs down from that open pit coal mine working out for you? All that mercury and bacteria are just so good for you, you can see it in your children's eye.

Don't forget to get home and teach your kids those reading, science, and math classes because we have eliminated the department of education as you requested, so you can educate them yourself now. Oh that's right, they don't really need to know those things anyway, they might make your kids smarter than you are so they might get a better paying job than you have. They can learn to count by counting all the teeth left in the mouths of all the family members, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 yup that's all. Better be careful now, the mining company is importing Chinese workers next month, because the labor laws have been done away with too as you wanted, you will have to get a job working in the laundry 20 hours a week washing their work uniforms, hope you can feed your 7 kids on $7.25 an hour.

I know it seems that I am making light of what you are saying, but that could very well be what we end up with without some real regulation of all the many different industries we have and proper management of our water supply and other resources, all requiring government oversight because the regular citizen is too busy watching the dumb ducks or somebody thinks they have talent shows and being generally entertained and distracted by the movies, video games and the TV to even know what to do to fix the problems they let get out of hand with their ignorance and arrogance.

There are certain ways for them to make modifications or changes to the Constitution and they cannot do so by just passing some bill ginned up in the back room somewhere, like the patriot act was.

It is the job of our "do nothing" congress to raise taxes/revenues and to write a budget, and spend the revenue, per the Constitution but they can't seem to do that, so they leave it up to another branch to do. So then you blame the president for doing his own job and the job of the congress as well who for the most part just sign off on what ever budget and tax legislation that the president presents.

You did a very good job of presenting the utopian version of what our government is supposed to look like and how they should perform their duties. But it seems that what is really happening in Wash DC and what Faux Snuz , CNN or MSNBC says is happening are very different things.

You are right to some degree about how bias the media has become, all of them are not doing their jobs, they no longer are being the people's watchdogs that report what the government is doing or not doing for the people they are there to serve. The media outlets are in it for the ratings, money and prestige or image, nothing more. It's not about what is right or wrong, it's all about the profit margins now.

Jefferson was very right, we do need a revolution of sorts every 10 years or so just to keep most of the citizens involved in their government. I don't think they meant for us to have a shooting type revolt except as a last resort, to unseat a government that has become a total tyrant.

Neither of these 2 massively corrupted political gangs we call democrats and republicans are the answer to our problems, for the most part I will say that political partisanship has been the downfall of our nation. The 1 party system has never really worked out to well for the citizens of any nation. You need only to look back at old Russia and then the USSR that was the product of that failed Jewish (dictatorship) state for an example. It seems they just jumped out of the pan into the fire there. How is your walking on hot coals training going?

This is what you end up with when the media and the government officials have dinner together, they usually end up in bed together, someone is going to work (twerk) for their meal, some how. One party is paying for dinner and the show, the other party is going to fix them breakfast in bed the next morning. But when all is said and done in the morning it is "We the People' who end up getting screwed.

I do hope you are reading my posts here completely, and getting the gist of my message. I do not support either party so do not try to lump me into either side of your left-right divide. What we really need in our senate and house are about 19 more truly independent senators and about 170 truly independent members of the house. That would make them get the job done for "We the People". We need to get all of the judges off the bench of the highest courts and start fresh with real followers of our US Constitution that do not have any political party affiliations. OK enough said for now, I willl let you chew of this for a while. By the way, I love the debate here.
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Dec 25, 2013 18:33:59   #
Well buddy, I think I explained that in my comments, need you ask why?
It seems that the supreme court judges appointed by republicans say differently as to what a "people" is and who gets special access to our election process with their big money, above and beyond what the real people get.
You fuss and complain about your rights being taken away while you support the patriot act that took away those rights. Sounds like a case of Stockholm syndrome too me.
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Dec 25, 2013 18:17:30   #
How many know the American flag has stars and stripes, not stars and bars?

How many know that US citizens are of all races and religions?

How many know that the government cannot support religion per the 1st amendment? That means it cannot mandate the beliefs of any religion on all. Or that it cannot define what is a deity or a belief, that choice is up to the individual.

How many know that the people are human beings, not corporations that exist only on paper, bought and sold or killed off by their owners at will.

How many know that we have freedom of choice? Our own choices not those that others decide or pick for us to choose from.

How many know that their freedoms and liberties come with an equal amount of responsibilities?

You want everyone to take a test, so be it, let's test your knowledge of the Constitution and how it defines the rolls of the citizens and those of the government officials. The duties of each branch of government. The oath of office each official takes, and just how serious they take what it says in their oath. How the members of our military are punished for their violations of their oath of office, and our elected/appointed officials just laugh in our faces as they violate the most important parts of their oath.

A smaller government would be great for a smaller country, but when you are as big as we are and far reaching as we have become it requires more control and regulation to maintain such a vast and diverse nation with such a diverse population and multifaceted industry and society and vast amount of real estate to protect. A small government was fine for 13 states and less than a million people and less than a third of the land mass we have now. The city government of Dallas Tx is bigger than our original national government.
If people and or the corporations and business's would not pollute the environment we wouldn't need the EPA. If industry would always make safe products such as devices, food and medications we wouldn't need any product safety regulations. If everyone would respect the rights of others we wouldn't need any laws protecting certain groups or persons.
The bigger we become the more rules and regulations we need.
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Dec 25, 2013 16:09:13   #
When you say "We the People" are you referring to the human being type of people, or the paper people of the corporate world as the supreme court did in their citizens united ruling?
I think we need a petition to force the legislature to clarify just what a real "people" is. Also change the laws concerning political campaign donations that make all who contribute to any party or candidate show proof of US citizenship, be registered to vote, and show the source of the money they want to donate, and it must be counted as taxable income on their US tax returns. That would take all foreign interests out of the picture and get corrupted, illegal/criminally acquired funds out as well. If these folks that are so worried about college students, illegals and old folks voting they will have to support all the rest or stop gerrymandering districts and limiting access to the vote to real Americans.
We need to insure all these "paper people" show all proper citizenship documents AKA proper ID and a birth certificate before they can have a say in our election process or vote. They must have an address in this country and reside at that address, and get 1 vote in 1 district/precinct just like they demand of us real people when we vote or even register to vote. Haliburton's home office is off shore to avoid our tax laws so they are not citizens. That applies to BP as well. Israel is not part of America or subject to our laws so they can stay out of our business and our election process, that includes any of their supporters here that are a very small minority at best. If they want to be so loyal to israel they can just move there, or STFU about it already.
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Dec 23, 2013 12:16:55   #
Repeal maybe, I think replace is a better objective to achieve with this. We do need a national health care system that covers all Americans. One that is paid for via our tax dollars that we pay. A major modification of the in use medicare system would work as a vehicle to do this for all citizens who do not have health insurance or cannot afford it at the rates charged by all of these greedy insurance corporations. Mainly the low income folks who work for minimum wage, for the most part they work for small companies or in the retail business or for franchises of large corporations like hotels or the fast food business, most of which are managed like it's still 1965. They could legalize marijuana, regulate and tax it like tobacco. The funds gained via that tax and the taxes raised from alcohol and tobacco could be put into the medicare fund to off set the increase in users. they could take the over 3.5 billion dollars that is given to israel in military aid and put it into the medicare system as well.
Let's take care of America first. It they want to send aid to israel let the private sector do it if they like israel so much more than America.
I do think that the patriot act should be repealed to stop all the violations of the Constitution that is done from that bad legislation. It resembles what might have been done in the old USSR or Nazi Germany where they were more worried about protecting the government and it's rulers from the people, than the people of the nations.
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Dec 22, 2013 22:55:40   #
Also, I don't think that Obama is pro-abortion as much as you say. He is pro-choice, It is a matter of choice, like owning a firearm, drinking booze or smoking marijuana.
More people are killed or harmed because of alcohol use every year than by abortion, firearms or marijuana.
What is really more dangerous, a person with a gun who is defending him/herself or an idiot with 3 beers in him driving a big truck on the public roads? Yes, it is their choice or right to drink alcohol but they don't have a right to endanger the safety of others by getting behind the wheel and driving on public roads after drinking the booze. I bet it's safe to say that booze is the cause of many of the unwanted children born today too. Yes this too is off topic, as much as the language or words used in the comment posted.
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Dec 22, 2013 22:22:47   #
One's who shroud themselves in "morality" or "moral values" need to look in the mirror and ensure that they themselves are living up to those same values 100% before they tell others to do so. Greed is as much a sin as bad as killing or adultery. War is killing and there are as many babies lives cut short by our use of WMD such as depleted uranium and other weapons as there are via abortion, so those who support war no matter what the reason for are guilty of killing and abortion all for the wars that Jesus would NOT have at all. That means you threw away all of those assumed values when you went to war for revenge or any other reason. That is what a Quaker friend of mine told me. I have great respect for him because he does walk the walk without all the talk.
When you will outlaw war, hate, pride and greed you can outlaw abortion. All those people who claim to be "christian" have to walk that walk and show the rest of the people an example to follow, not mandate those beliefs on everyone else, while they continue to be prideful, hateful and greedy. No corporate entity can claim any sort of moral high ground such as being against birth control etc until they have eliminated greed within their corporation and have become good stewards of the planet and not make or sell any other products that could cause harm to people or to the environment. I will go as far as saying that 97% of those members of our government that proclaim some kind of moral high ground are really knee deep in the crap in a ditch full of dirty, oily dollars. But hey, they got their make-up on right and they will look good doing it wrong. Hypocrisy is the name of the game in our government today.
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Dec 22, 2013 12:30:45   #
To some degree I agree with part of what you said here. Our elected and appointed officials seemed to have forgotten that it is they who are there to serve "US, AKA We the People of these United States of America". That is in the Constitution and in their oath of office they swear to up-hold it and to defend it. That means they can serve no other party or nation while they are in that office. There isn't room for partisanship in that the party is not given rights or privileges, their duty or service is always for the people.
Partisanship has been the downfall of most semi-democratic type nations. Without diversity in the make-up of the government that can match the diversity of the nations population you cease being a true "representative republic" like ours was intended to be in the beginning.
Many of you didn't like the 1 party systems of the many past communist nations such as the former USSR, nor that of present-day China. So then why would it be a good idea for a single party to rule things here? That would make us no better than North Korea, China or Nazi Germany.
I might even think that our "welfare" being one of the the things that our government is required to look out for per the Constitution, also includes our health or well being as well as our safety and security etc. A healthy and better educated citizenry makes for a stronger labor force, in-turn a stronger economy that will make the nation as a whole much stronger. As a real economic force, not just a military force. Nor an economic force that relies on credit or loans from other nations to maintain an over sized military force to project the image of being all-powerful.
I think that our government should take care of all of the citizens needs before it gives any economic or military aid to any other nation/state. Nor should we make agreements to give military aid of any kind to any nation state that is not a member of the UN or those that have not signed the non-proliferation agreement that pertains to nuclear weapons, materials or related designs or technology etc. I also think that the USA is already guilty of violations of that agreement with the spread of such weapons and related technologies to israel, and I think that is the main reason that the US isn't demanding israel to submit to the same types of weapons inspections that Iraq and then Iran had gone through.
I know I wondered a bit there on the subject(s) but they are related to each other via the budgeting of these things by congress and how eager they are to cut domestic spending needs before cutting military aid to any
foreign nation/state.
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Dec 15, 2013 20:57:04   #
Yes, that is an on-going event for many of those right-wing religious zealots who want to legislate/mandate their beliefs on everyone. But Most of them are pure hypocrites because they don't follow their own belief/religion to the letter but demand others to do so. They whine about same-sex marriage, birth control or abortion and say they are against their "moral values" but it's ok to be greedy, prideful, hateful and commit murder as they have done by voting for these wars, those that support the wars are all murderous arrogant, greedy bastages.
They all deserve the same punishment that was given to Saddam Hussein or Osama Bin Ladin, neither of them had attacked the USA, nor could they find definite proof of their plans to do so. That is a very complex matter that I will get in to in another post.
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Dec 14, 2013 15:31:00   #
The "state" cannot define what is or is not a religion/belief, or a god/deity is. The choice is up to (you) the individual in how you believe and if you have a deity/god of any kind at all.
To allow any government official(s), elected, appointed or what ever, such control or authority in my view would be a very dangerous thing and could lead to even more erosion's of our civil liberties and what rights we have left. That would also imply state support for religion by mandating what a god or deity is defined as.
I am pro-Constitution all the way. I think that there should be a review of all laws on the books (federal) to see if they violate the U.S. Constitution in any way. All of them that do should be suspended then rewritten or rescinded. The rights, liberties and freedoms of the people come before the protection of corrupt officials or agencies from criminal prosecution for violations of the Constitution and the law, that should apply to any and all corporations operating at any level in this country as well.
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Dec 14, 2013 14:29:29   #
I can agree with you on this. We need to all register as Independent voters and take the numbers away from these corrupted political gangs that are running this country into the toilet. They have become like spoiled children that didn't get the toys they screamed for in the store.
As Independents we can get access to the ballots in most of the states and get a real 3rd option out there for the people. The take control we will need at least 100 independents in the congress and 20 more in the senate. Then we can make our government start working for US. Doing things that we actually want them to do for US. This would be the best way to get rid of most of bad laws and maybe over turn court rulings like that piece of crap called "citizens united". I am a citizen and I was not asked if I thought that was necessary to make our elections even more corrupted.
These candidates have to be real people. They must truly be independent of any of the other parties. They cannot be owned and controlled by any corporate sponsors or any foreign interests.
If we can't do it that way we will have to use the state election ballots with referendum items put on them, and that process can be a bit more trouble than the first option. To make it work on a national level all of these referendum items would have to be the same for each state. Yup, it gets tougher this way.
In all reality either way is going to be interesting to say the least. I also think that Jefferson was thinking of these things when he said that this nation would need to have a revolution (of sorts) every 10 years or so just to keep the people involved in their government. That's my short reply. I will post a longer one real soon.
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Dec 11, 2013 09:23:20   #
That is the response I usually get for the "god issue". But do any of us really know if there is just 1 god? Or a god at all?
The book you use as your reference is hearsay knowledge, that was a group of stories passed on by talismen of many languages and nations. Not written down until several hundred years after the events talked about in those stories happened. Many words that were used back then had no translation or interpretation or meaning in other languages as it is today, for example in the Dutch language that has many words that do not translate to English or even Latin, so some of the meaning of what was said is lost to those that don't speak or understand Dutch. As with most stories they are embellished a bit more every time they are told to keep the listeners coming, that is how these talismen made their living. The more glorious the tale with unbelievable events told in them means there are more listeners who paid to hear them.
Celtic monks spent decades in the Middle East learning the languages and translating the texts they used to write their bibles, books that offended King James, books that said that man could not rule over man, so he went off on a crusade killing thousands in the process just to get his own book that he liked, then he went back to England and promptly executed all the monks by burning them alive at the stake, then he gathered up all the books they wrote and burned them all as well. Those were the good christian acts of such a nice monarch, RIGHT! Who would Jesus burn at the stake, alive no less? So I find it very difficult to except any book he had written or picked out of about 40 different translations that were available at that time as the real deal. He also burned people at the stake who said the earth might be round, not flat. And you want to believe what he said or the book he liked.
But hey, you have a right to believe whatever you like, as do I. Neither of us have actual proof of what we say is fact, it's just a matter of belief.
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