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Feb 16, 2015 10:37:41   #
Nickolai wrote:
Not when I was young uneducated ignorant of history and incredibly naïve I subscribed to conservative ideology I voted for Barry Goldwater but in time I changed my mind when I came to realize that ideology was untenable and that all human progress was due to progressive minded people willing to chuck tradition and go for it and that is the root to science, education, art, human rights, the renaissance , the enlightenment and the Age of Reason in the late 18th century and the rest is history


The argument by conservatives is that progressives continue to throw out core values, tradition, morality and integrity. Doing this will indeed take us back to the renaissance. I find it humorous how people find affirmation in numbers, clearly the masses are being controlled by their favorite media and their hard party line. I am conservative leaning and proud of my classics liberal thinking because I know our government should not be a nanny and though we need a government we need one that is for the people not to control us. Many people in the work force are tired of being over taxed and then taxed again just to allow our bloated government to pander a vote.
Why is it ok to allow multiple generations to live on welfare alone? Bill Clinton understood this and attempted to change the system.
Progressive liberals need to join conservatives in reigning in our government before we find ourselves helpless and enslaved.
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Feb 15, 2015 23:31:00   #
Nickolai wrote:
Is there anything good about Conservatives?

YES!!! We actually desperately need clear-thinking, open-minded, flexible, selfless "conservatives" amongst us. The paradox is.... the concept of an open-minded, flexible and selfless conservative is an oxymoron.


The paradox of your statement is that your claim of cons lacking open mindedness actually holds true of you, are you actually a conservative or a prog who thinks they are above all others?
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Feb 15, 2015 23:25:43   #
Glaucon wrote:
Vacuous man and Larry Puckett, Obviously, neither of you seem to have any idea how our government works. I asked Larry to tell us where he allegedly taught government and history. He has not responded and I have to assume it is because he tried to pull off a self aggrandizement ploy and it called him on it. He is a smoke blowing fraud. It has been clear from his comments that he knows next to nothing about how our government works and I could only conclude that his alleged 43 years of teaching government was all bull shit. Most 6th graders know more about our government than either of you do.
Vacuous man and Larry Puckett, Obviously, neither ... (show quote)


You sound like a kid? Why don't you educate me ? Tell em exactly how you can blame a prescient solely for what happens during their tenure.
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Feb 15, 2015 23:20:25   #
Rod Riddle wrote:
Typical Racist Bigot Homophobe Right Wing Extremist showing his true colors. At least you are honest about it. That I give you credit for.


Rod, being homophobic is not politicaly related to any single party. I know many democrats who are devoted Catholics and they don't condone homosexual relationships either. This term homophobic is a bigoted term coined by a liar. Like others on OPP, who have clearly stated, a disagreement with another's lifestyle does not make a person a bigot. Or does it? You seem to disagree with their lifestyle and beliefs?
I think for me I choose to leave my sex life in the bedroom where I make love to my spouse.
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Feb 15, 2015 23:09:38   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
And the Truth shall set you free !

For the doubters in denial yet again,

The enemy and Traitors are inside the wire...

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The United States invaded the wrong country when it attacked Iraq. Saudi Arabia, not former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, financed the terrorists and aided and abetted the slaughter of thousands of innocent Americans on 9/11.

We have always known that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis. That was just a coincidence, proclaimed Washington. But the evidence old and new is stacking up that Saudi Arabia, at the top levels of government, provided aid for that assault.

The 9/11 Commission reported that while all traffic over the United States was halted in the days following 9/11, six chartered flights with 142 people aboard, mostly Saudis, left the United States with FBI escorts between Sept. 14, 2001 and Sept. 24, 2001. It was reported by The Saint Petersburg Times in 2004 that at least one other flight with three men, perhaps members of the Saudi royal family, were also ushered out of the United States with bodyguards during that period.

It all seems too incredible to be true. It would mean our government has been lying to the American people for well over a decade.

That can’t happen, can it? That would mean that twice in the past half century, back-to-back presidents convinced the nation to fight in an insurgent war that cost of thousands of American lives and hundreds of billions of dollars. It would mean that presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama have acted just as presidents Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon did with regard to fighting wars where the benefactor was America’s military-industrial establishment.

According to Global Research in September 2013, the United States will have spent between $4 and $6 trillion fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government in 2013 reported that roughly 20 percent of the total amount added to the U.S. national debt between 2001 and 2012 was a result of Bush and Obama’s wars. The report added that in 2013 U.S. had already paid $260 billion in interest on the war debt and future interest payments alone could be trillions of dollars.

The war spending was based on lies by the Bush administration about Iraq processing weapons of mass destruction and the strong insinuation that Saddam conspired with al-Qaida on the 9/11 attack. And while millions of Americans still believe this is true, perhaps assuaging their guilt over that war, a 2004 House of Representatives committee found 237 misleading statements about the threat posed by Iraq that were made by Bush and those in his administration, notably Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Colin Powell and National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice. In all, the administration was said to have lied in 125 separate appearances, which included 40 speeches, 26 press conferences and briefings, 53 interviews, written statements, and two congressional testimonies.

According to the House committee, at least 61 separate statements “misrepresented Iraq’s ties to al-Qaeda.” In 2006, a separate Senate investigation agreed. In 2009, Cheney admitted, “I do not believe and have never seen any evidence to confirm that [Saddam] was involved in 9/11. We had that reporting for a while, [but] eventually it turned out not to be true.”

Eventually it turned out not to be true? That’s because it was all a pack of lies from the very start told because the real truth is unthinkable. Those in the highest levels of government in Saudi Arabia — America’s staunchest ally in Islam — provided financial and perhaps even logistical aid to al-Qaida in carrying out 9/11.

Last week, lawyers representing the families of the 9/11 victims in a lawsuit against Saudi Arabia announced they have new evidence that agents of that government “directly and knowingly” aided the hijackers. It includes sworn testimony from the 20th hijacker, Zacarias Moussaoui.

Moussaoui, who is serving a life sentence in a maximum-security prison in Florence, Colorado, claims that there was a plot by al-Qaida to shoot down Air Force One and assassinate President Bill Clinton that was assisted by a top Saudi Embassy employee. And he says there were direct dealings between senior Saudi officials and bin Laden. The rants of a crazy man, insists the Saudi embassy in Washington.

Bob Graham, co-chairman of the Joint Congressional Inquiry into 9/11, said he believes “there was a direct line” between some 9/11 terrorists and the government of Saudi Arabia.

Why in the world would two presidents cover up the most horrific attack on American civilians? I can give you two reasons: oil and money. First, Saudi Arabia has the largest reserves of conventional oil in the world, which it can pump at about the same cost as bottled water. Second, Saudi investors hold $250 billion in U.S. Treasuries and another $100 billion in U.S. stocks and bonds.

Those reasons might explain Bush’s cover-up. Obama may have more personal ones for protecting the country that holds two of Islam’s most holy sites, The Sacred Mosque in Mecca and the Mosque of the Prophet in Medina.

This may sound outlandish, but so are some of the things Obama has said regarding Islam, including his speech last week at the National Prayer Breakfast:

And lest we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ. In our home country, slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ. Michelle and I returned from India — an incredible, beautiful country, full of magnificent diversity — but a place where, in past years, religious faiths of all types have, on occasion, been targeted by other peoples of faith, simply due to their heritage and their beliefs — acts of intolerance that would have shocked Gandhiji, the person who helped to liberate that nation.

Yes, Mr. President, and let’s not forget about the evil inside Ancient Rome.

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal had the best response to Obama’s history lecture:

We will be happy to keep an eye out for runaway Christians, but it would be nice if he would face the reality of the situation today. The Medieval Christian threat is under control, Mr. President. Please deal with the Radical Islamic threat today.

Yours in good times and bad,

–John Myers
And the Truth shall set you free ! br br For the... (show quote)


I don't doubt a word of it and I think our government let it happen. Apparently CIA is not as intelligent as it should be. Saudis are big money and money talks in mans world.
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Feb 15, 2015 23:01:34   #
Blacksheep wrote:
Yes there is, there's lots of evidence and more keeps piling up every day. What there's no evidence for is the creation of life by some magical deity. Do some reading, keep up with scientific and technological advances, your knowledge is 19th Century.


19th century? Even if by chance due to natural selection life has evolved into the thousands of different life forms, scientists have admitted that it would have taken much more time than 4.5 billion year life of the planet. If you truly beleive this is the case why did certain creatures evolve why others perished? Evolution exists for sure, beyond a doubt. Mathematically creation must have occurred.
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Feb 15, 2015 22:49:57   #
atc333 wrote:
1)My comment referenced the past three GOP Administrations, not just Bush II, who did enough damage on his own.

2) Obama took office during the downward slide of the Bush II Great Recession. The first year of that, including the budget, belongs to Bush.

Reagan added 1.9 Trillion to the Federal Debt. Bush I added 1.1 trillion to the Federal Debt. Bush II added 4.9 trillion to the Federal Debt. That totals almost 8 Trillion in principal to the Federal Debt. To that, add the accumulated interest to that Federal Debt over the years.

Hence the 10 Trillion dollars those three GOP Administrations added to the Federal Debt with what Bush I correctly identified as "Voodoo Economics".

Rather than giving tax cuts to job creators, had Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II administrations not cut taxes, but left the tax rates alone, incurring the same expenditures, and
Clinton, and Obama spent in exactly the same manner as they did,
The Federal Deficit today would be exactly what it was before Reagan took office

That pretty well says it all:

Here is the analysis: http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
1)My comment referenced the past three GOP Adminis... (show quote)


I realize the author credited Reagan as having been able to work with congress and they granted him his failed budget. The graph appears to show fault with all presidents who were republican and I'm sure that as usual and I'm sure you must be aware that congress must approve all budgets and the interest rate isn't set by the POTUS either. Blaming any president solely for the budget is absurd.
If you beleive this article you must also beleive that these presidents usurped congress with executive orders to spend freely. This of course did not happen.
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Feb 15, 2015 22:14:49   #
Jerry A. wrote:
Conservatives red neck are greedy, anti-social, slave drivers, and prejudices, who used the U.S. Constitution to benefited themselves and ruined the country.


I guess don't know any, because what you are saying is completely false and untrue.
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Feb 15, 2015 21:48:39   #
larrypuckett1939 wrote:
I TAUGHT HISTORY AND GOVERNMENT FOR 43 YEARS,
AND IT GOES SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

SINCE (IT) IS NOT A LEGAL SITTING PRESIDENT, (IT) CANNOT
BE CHARGED BE CHARGED WITH IMPEACHABLE CRIMES. WHAT
CAN BE DONE IS TO TRY HIM FOR SUBVERSION , AND OTHER
CRIMES THAT ARE ABOUT TRYING TO DESTROY OUR GOVERNMENT!!
THESE CRIMES DON'T NEED IMPEACHMENT, (IT) CAN BE ARRESTED
FOR CRIMES AGAINST THE STATE, BY FEDERAL MARSHALL'S,
AND SIMPLY THROWN IN JAIL. BUT, TO DO THIS, WE HAVE TO HAVE A JUDGE AND FEDERAL MARSHALL WHO HAVE THE CAJONES TO DO WHAT
IS NECESSARY!!
true patriot
I TAUGHT HISTORY AND GOVERNMENT FOR 43 YEARS, br A... (show quote)


The courts, both houses and the POTUS are all above the law, beside having already been laughed at by most nations due to obamajama, could you imagine how it would look to remove our first.....mmm black
President? Nobody has the cajones to cross that t and dot that i. Traitor, infiltrator , liar and chief.
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Feb 15, 2015 21:31:46   #
Dave wrote:
Why is it so hard for those who are indoctrinated to understand than opinion does not constitute fact - and those who analyze by assuming someone's motivation they've left the realm of even defensible opinion?


Because rolling stone magazine has always been a great source of entertainment, and that's all. I would ask again why does Fox News infuriate the PROGS so much?
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Feb 15, 2015 01:56:57   #
jelun wrote:
The stats were provided and you simply ignore it and say that it isn't true.
Ailes actually has said that his plan was to influence the ignorant of the nation.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-roger-ailes-built-the-fox-news-fear-factory-20110525?page=6
Go on, read it.
See what Roger Ailes planned and how he executed it.


This was absolutley the greatest opinion piece I have ever wasted my time reading, what a bunch of BS. Good thing with such a poor upbringing he has only started one Fox network. What on earth would you be doing if he actually started a second. Why does Fox irritate progressives so much? I can watch MSNBC and read the HUFFPOST without getting angry with their EXTREME left leaning TALKING points? Don't you have something better to waste out time with?
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Feb 14, 2015 01:11:50   #
Al-ien wrote:
Hey Fuckface, that's why fox has the highest rating on cable. You're like one of your coharts on the left, Gruber. You know him. He's the one that think's Americans are stupid. You two deserve each other.


Hey Allen, Kevoon the baboon and Raylan the rybaby are no match for free thinkers, hey this name calling is sort of fun! Guess that's why LIBS do it so much. Funny how free thinkers simply turn the channel when they don't like something, liberals want the station removed.
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Feb 14, 2015 01:06:20   #
Raylan Wolfe wrote:


You and your minion babble have now room to talk there rybaby.
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Feb 13, 2015 01:54:51   #
[quote=Glaucon]Bill Maher had a field day with both Sarah Palin and her Republican critics. “Now that many Republicans have come forward in the last week to finally admit that, ‘okay, you were right, Sarah Palin is a crazy person, they have to ask themselves, ‘What else might I have been completely wrong about all these years?’ In case you missed it, Palin made a speech in Iowa a couple of weeks ago that cryptologists are still working on,” Maher explained on his show Real Time with Bill Maher.
Bill Maher went on to play clips of Sarah Palin’s incoherent content and delivery of her speech. It is the speech that finally had many Republicans throwing her under the bus. He compared it to being on cocaine.

“The pundits that always defended her have officially had enough,” Bill Maher said. “It was as if the scales fell from their eyes and they were finally able to admit 'The emperor has no clues.' They called her speech incoherent, a farce, unseemly, words that might have truly stung Sarah if she knew what they meant.”

Maher went on to enumerate past defenders that had harsh words for her. Matt Lewis who wrote an adoring book about Sarah Palin wrote a piece titled "You Betcha I Was Wrong About Sarah Palin." Bill O’Reilly compared her to a reality show. Sean Hannity asked if her teleprompter went down. The Washington Examiner questioned whether Palin should be included in future Republican events.

“I only have one question for Republicans,” Bill Maher said. “What took you so long? The rest of us have been watching this dog eat grass for seven years.”

At last, now that Republicans have admitted to an error Bill Maher wants them to reconsider other Republican tenets. “Now that you know you can do this, what about writing a column called ‘You Betcha I was wrong about climate change.’ … It might feel good.” He extrapolated it to immigration and Middle East wars.

But most importantly he had a zinger on trickle-down economics. “And what about the great granddaddy of zombie lies, trickle-down economics,” Bill Maher asked. “Can’t we throw that one under the bus too? It’s never worked and it never will work for good reason. Because it is like having three dogs and giving a wiener to one of them and thinking, ‘He will share it with the others.’”

Anyone who thinks Bill Maher was being too harsh on Sarah Palin must remember the bile that she spilled during the 2008 elections and beyond. She has been one of the leaders spilling venom into our body politic. What must she think now that her own have turned against her?[/quote


Yet she is stills easier to look at and listen to than the Imbicile in the White House.
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Feb 13, 2015 01:49:45   #


Really? Not a Single cited lie?
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