I want to be supportive...Can you provide more data or clarification first?

I know you're a good person and so is Sue and the other one.

God bless all of you!

I'll try again later. LOL

Sorry!

Sue,

I'd like to add something...In my last answer to you my empathy meter climbed off the charts...Call it the Holy Spirit...But it was a profound great wave of sadness.

You briefly shared some of your past with me and suddenly that struck me as relevant...Like prolonged pain and sorrow or maybe even suffering.

Unanswered prayers perhaps.

It is with wet eyes that if so I have often been there myself!

Love you like a sister,!!!

Dave

Yep...But the resurrected body of Christ also was hungry and asked his disciples for something to eat.

Still wondering 😀😎😇

To be fruitful means a good looking woman or a hunk of a man. And I don't mean a playboy centerfold or a Sylvester Stallone. Just someone that fills the other mate's eyes.

To multiply is usually the end result of such a union into one flesh that also comes with terrible responsibility and often sacrifice pain and sorrow. Be the actual offsprings of a spiritual or physical nature.

When Christ said that in heaven no one would be given in marriage did that really mean there would be no sex after death?

I wonder...😂😎😇

Abuser is indeed a bad choice of words and for that please accept my apologies.

This is no justification but in need to mention that I was responding to your one inference or inuendo that my homeless friend and I were a cult. So please allow me to attempt to take you off the hook and not besmirch you.

That was not my intent. Abrasive would have been a better choice of words. I am confident that you are not and I repeat clearly for the record NOT an abusive person, but it was my impression in the heat of the moment perceived with the cult charge to make me feel bad and in all honesty it also did in all honesty actually shock me as well. That is precisely the way you made me feel and one can never argue with another person's feelings.

So please accept my humble apologies.

And let us part as friends and not as enemies.

Love your humble servant in Christ,

David

Good analysis Morgan and there are many other aspects or rather details of man's fall I would like to review here with both you and Sue.

But first allow me as Rush Limbaugh would say "set the table".

Before man was created according to creationist Kent Hovind PHd, education, God had created more or less every thing that was.

But according to same, after he created Adam, but before he took from Adam the rib to make Eve God in Adam's presence created certain trees along perhaps certain animals and had Adam not only witness his creation but name the animals.

Now before Eve was formed, God introduced Adam to the tree of good and evil and in the original Hebrew tongue translation said the following:

But before I do that let me emphasize that this is not the Vulgate, Latin, KJV or Geneva translation but as close to the original writing as validated by the Dead Sea scrolls discoveries around the time of Israel's rebirth of a nation as follows:
"...Eden in-garden-of you-may-eat to-eat the-garden tree-of from-any-of to-say the-man to God for from-any-of you-must-eat not and-evil good the-knowledge but-from-tree-of God Yahweh and-he-said you-will-die to-die from-him to-eat-you "

Then the translation goes on to "in-day-of to-suit-him helper"

Now contrast what Eve answers to Satan with as follows in the original Hebrew tongue...In response to Satan's question:

Please note she adds something curious that God never said;

"the-serpant to the-woman and-she-said the-garden tree-of in-middle-of that the-tree but-from-tree-of we-may-eat the-garden tree-of you-must-touch and-NOT from-him you-must-eat NOT"

Woops!!! Morgan..I'm going to have to break here...This is going to take longer than I thought and I have to go to work now...but study what I am giving you here. Please let it sink in that the curious addition that Eve gave that God never said was about touching and I promise to get back with you later today.

Whew!!! Heavy stuff! Right? Lol!

Wow my friend. We are grafted into the tree of Jehovah the Jew first the Christian last: At least I think that's how it works.

Also is it the Jew that justifies the Christian or visa versa?

My head is spinning but I love everything about this discussion for it is taking me outside of the box and challenging me to really pay attention to detail!

Thank you!!

And God bless you

Amen!

Author of confusion or just trying to get his audience to a deeper level by challenging with parables that once understood or grasped were no longer confusing?

If what I've read in that article is true; then God would use an obstacle, roadblock etc., not to mislead or confuse; but rather to challenge in order to instruct, correct or teach.

No problem and thanks for edifying on behalf of me recently.

Your brother in Christ,

Dave

Why did Adam also eat of the forbidden fruit?

What would be the significance of that?

On the lighter side God has a sense of humor.

The Hebrew for "Where?" Is pronounced ...Ai

The Hebrew for "hid" is pronounced also ...AI

So in the garden of Eden after eating God comes along and asks

"AI?!!" (Where art thou?)

Adam answers "AI..." (We're hiding)

Though you might like that one.

Sue,

You and Morgan are top notch and I already knew much of which you say here is true if not all true.

What did you think about the rest of the article?