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Sep 14, 2020 14:40:30   #
wilpharm wrote:
what a friggin dork you are!!! yup, lightning, arsonist, & drought have GOP written all over th....you are truly a sad dude!!!!!!!!


Lighting and arson are only responsible for the number of fires which remains roughly consistent over the years. But the magnitude of the fires has increased and THAT is all about the abundance of fuel which is created by the hotter, drier climate caused by global warming, caused by increased levels of greenhouse gases emitted by an industry that refuses to stop and is allowed to continue because of... Republicans.

If you can't connect the dots then it's better to be "friggin dork" than to be you.
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Sep 14, 2020 14:31:54   #
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
How about the irresponsible people that set off smoke bombs for gender reveal parties in the middle of dead forest!!!!


What about them? People do stupid things. There was a gender-reveal party just the other day in Ohio that killed a grandma.

But like I've already said, the sparks (arsonists, powerlines, reveal parties, cigarette butts, etc...) haven't changed. Bad or stupid people have been setting fires forever. The number of fires haven't changed either. The MAGNITUDE of the fires HAVE changed.

So it's not the sparks... it's the amount of fuel as provided by the drier and hotter climate caused by global warming which I correctly blame on Republicans that is making the difference.
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Sep 14, 2020 14:16:16   #
Crayons wrote:
You throw up an image from where? I don't know...Cuz I can't see it

We clean out our green-belts...No 'major forest fires here for years'...cuz if there was we'd of heard about it. Many of us have our own Brush-Fire Trucks.

Green belts - LOL!!!! Compared to the vast wilderness in the western states, your green belts are like miniature golf courses. I used to take walks through the green belts in NC. They're nice, but their basically manicured parks. And by the way, California hasn't had any fires on their miniature golf courses, decorated lawns and community parks either.

Crayons wrote:

Not to mention our TX Dept of weather modification keeps things throughout the state fairly damp so I don't know what you're talkin willis...Clean Up Your Own Mess and Arrest the Arsonists 'sunshine'


OK well now you're talking. But keep in mind the only reason why the TX Department of Weather Modification works at all is because there are clouds in Texas to start with. All cloud seeding does is make the water in the clouds come down before they blow away. That's all it is!

So how is that going to fix an actual drought where there ARE no clouds? Even the website for the Texas Department of Weather Modification says... "Weather Modification in Texas is a long term water management strategy and is not expected to suppress a drought or fill area lakes, rivers or reservoirs overnight."

http://www.texasweathermodification.com

As for the arsonists - they ARE arrested.
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Sep 14, 2020 13:23:49   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
1,500 Years Of Heatwaves

1970’s Global Cooling Scare

61% Fake Data

Accelerating Sea Level Fraud In Climate Science

Arctic Sea Ice Unchanged From 60 Years Ago

Climate Scientists Rewriting The Past

Corruption Of The US Temperature Record

Doubling The Hockey Stick Fraud

Erasing America’s Hot Past

Extreme Fraud In The National Climate Assessment

Extreme Wildfire Fraud In The National Climate Assessment

Failed Apocalyptic Forecasts

Failed Climate Models

Fraud In The National Climate Assessment (Part 1)

Fraud In The National Climate Assessment (Part 2)

Heatwave Of May-June 1934

Hiding The Decline In Extreme Weather

Ice-Free Arctic Forecasts

Low CO2 Climate Disasters

The Five Top Arguments Against Climate Alarmism

The Malicious Intent Behind Climate Alarmism

The Smoking Gun

Understanding NOAA US Temperature Fraud

Why Climate Science Peer Review Is Worthless

In Their Own Words: Climate Alarmists Debunk Their 'Science'

A Confluence of Carbonbaggers
url=https://realclimatescience.com/1500-years-of-... (show quote)


People who can't think for themselves present no arguments of their own. Instead they gather links in the hopes that that somehow a long list of links will make up for it... the longer the list the more intelligent they imagine the content must me.

I'm not going to spend hours reading all the BS you link to. I can find all that crap on my own anyway. There's lots of crackpots and liars out there all trying to publish their BS.

If you want to disprove any of my assertions, you need to present an argument. If you can't do that then by all means find someone else's argument but you will still need to at least understand how it counters my argument, otherwise it's irrelevant.
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Sep 14, 2020 12:48:54   #
Marty 2020 wrote:
I don’t care what you call it .
You’re wrong!


Says the guy who must be really confused about how icebergs can exist in the Arctic when the temperature in Texas is 100'F LOL
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Sep 14, 2020 12:47:01   #
Marty 2020 wrote:
No, those early term embryos are people!


I didn't say they weren't. Obviously my argument went right over your head.
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Sep 14, 2020 12:42:36   #
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
We haven’t had a drought in over 2 years! There’s been a lot of rainfall! Blame the demonrats in charge that won’t clean up the forests!!! No such thing as global warming, now the liberal term is climate change!!!


The terms haven't changed. Global warming refers to the increase in the global mean temperature and that is still the term we use today. But some people are rather dim-witted and don't realize the planet has many climates that can be affected differently. They think global warming works like a thermostat in a living room where every square inch of the room is heated evenly. LOL

After years of trying to explain the concept of multiple climates being affected by global warming differently (droughts here and floods there, etc...) the left decided to give up and just go with "climate change", a general reference to the effects that global warming has on the various climates that the dim-wits can actually see happening without straining their stunted brains.

So, the terms mean two different things, with one thing (too difficult for the average Republican to understand) causes the other (which should be obvious enough for an idiot to see).
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Sep 14, 2020 12:23:04   #
RandyBrian wrote:
Nonsense. As already pointed out, these fires have been going on since there have been forests.

Yes, fires have been going on since there have been forests. But they were never this intense or as widespread as they are now. At least, not since humans have been here. In case you didn't know, size matters.

RandyBrian wrote:

Of course all the wilderness can not be managed.

Tell that to your idiot friends.

RandyBrian wrote:

And of course the rising heat is making things drier.

Of course.

RandyBrian wrote:

And of course that has little or nothing to do with man-made emissions. So point your finger of blame elsewhere, please.

No, I'm not going to point my finger elsewhere just because you want to deny the overwhelming evidence that the current warming trend is man-made.
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Sep 14, 2020 12:16:35   #
RandyBrian wrote:
By the way, how many fossil fuel power plants did California decommission and take off line? I forget the exact number. It's nice of them to sacrifice for global warming. I wonder how they are enjoying their rolling black outs?

You're details are distorted. What they decommissioned was coal-fired power plants and they replaced them with natural gas, which is still a fossil fuel, but it's much cleaner than coal. California also experienced rapid growth in their economy which created more demand for energy bringing the grid to near capacity. Add to that the global warming with its record-breaking heat waves that Republicans gave us and the demand spikes as people turn their AC units on. That's how you get rolling black outs.

RandyBrian wrote:

Do you suppose any people (or animals) have died in the heat wave due to the RBOs? Not, of course, the officials that voted to close the power stations. I'm quite positive that the RBOs did not affect them personally.

Just to note, the RBO didn't cause the heat waves, global warming did. The RBO's simply remove the ability for people to use their AC to escape the heat. As a result, yes I think some people have died from the heat, but nothing like the fires. Either way, Republicans are to blame for both fires and RBOs by way of the global warming they ushered into our lives.
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Sep 14, 2020 11:54:54   #
EmilyD wrote:
So you are saying that in 2019, the federal government under Trump was responsible for fires in California. Got that. But what about when Obama was President (or any other president), wouldn't THAT president be held accountable for the fires? Why are you mentioning only Trump, only the year 2019 and why do you blame only Republicans?

I doubt that the only years that the land was not managed properly were only the years Trump was president...


Let me make something very clear. No one has EVER systematically cleared the underbrush from America's wilderness and there's a simple reason for that. It's too big. We don't have the facilities and we don't have the money, we never did and we probably never will. It's an utterly useless idea.

The only reason why I mentioned Trump's responsibility for federal land was to correct someone's assumption that California is responsible for managing the land that caught fire.

I wasn't suggesting that he or any previous president could have avoided the fires through something as idiotic as clearing the underbrush. But if you notice, I'm not blaming any particular president or administration either.

But I *am* blaming those who continued to vote for the Republicans that consistently blocked every attempt to curb emissions over the past 30 years because THAT is how the underbrush became such a problem to start with.

Telling California that they need to clear the underbrush would be like me pissing on your doorstep and blaming you for the smell because YOU didn't clean it up.
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Sep 14, 2020 11:28:30   #
Rose42 wrote:
That's called snuffing out innocent life. You can't rationalize it to be anything else.


Then how do you rationalize your diet? Are you Vegan? Are cows and pigs and chickens not innocent life? Do you eat veal where baby cows are imprisoned in dark cages knee deep in their own feces for the duration of their short lives? Yummy, yummy, you don't care?

Let's hear you rationalize how YOU pick and choose which innocent lives are not worth saving.
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Sep 14, 2020 11:19:18   #
Marty 2020 wrote:
Oh you’re the serpent!
Democrats are killing babies every day!


Not really the the same thing...

The Democrats are allowing early-term embryos to be aborted by qualified medical professionals in sterile environments to save them from growing into late-term babies where they would suffer much more pain as they are aborted in dirty garages, motel rooms or anywhere hidden from the law. That's called mercy.

The people the Republicans are killing span the entire range of development from conception to fully developed, sentient people with loving relationships to one another so that corporations can squeeze more profit out of their operations. That's called greed.
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Sep 14, 2020 10:56:12   #
teabag09 wrote:
I suppose that if the dead dry timber and underbrush had been removed, which Republicans had proposed, there wouldn't be quite so much fuel for the fires to burn. But no, the Sierra Club and other left leaning environmentalist organizations would have none of that.


You're confusing issues here. Either that, or the people you listen to are intentionally confusing them for you.

The Sierra Club has indeed protested the harvesting of timber (from living trees) in environmentally critical areas, but they have NEVER stood in the way of ANY proposal to clear dead wood from the wilderness because no such thing has ever been proposed.

A proposal involves an actual plan and a motion on the floor to vote on on it. That never happened... Go ahead and check the legislative records... I have... it never happened and the reason should be obvious. It's not feasible. These fires are burning on wild land, not manicured parks. There are 33 million acres of wild land in California alone. It would take billions of dollars to clear out the underbrush and dead wood is useless to the tiber industry. So, you really think that's something the Republicans are going to propose? Get real. What YOU are referring to is what Republicans like to tell the media. "Oh well, we keep telling them to clear the underbrush and they won't have it." So they're lying, which is easy to do when you're not actually trying to make something work.

teabag09 wrote:

There's plenty of blame to go around. The far western states are for the most part high desert, dry and parched in the best of times. Mike


As they have been since America was born and yet fires were never this massive. So what changed? Do you not even think about that? The answer is climate change as caused by the emissions that the left has been trying to curb but the right always stands in the way. So the blame very clearly falls upon the right.
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Sep 14, 2020 10:19:33   #
Rose42 wrote:
You're confusing your opinion with fact again. This topic of yours and some of your statements are simply nutter materlal a la Alex Jones. Blame away.


You don't point to any specific example nor do you present any evidence to counter my very-well established claim. That makes your response utterly useless other than to show that you're offended by someone who is calling you out for being an active part of the culture that kills innocent people and animals.
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Sep 12, 2020 11:42:04   #
drlarrygino wrote:
Here are the 2 real reasons for these vicious fires going on in California. The inability of Jerry Brown and Gavin Gruesome (2 alt rat-ical demorats)to implement the clear cutting of dead trees and dead wood debris by their Forest Service and the spraying of aluminium oxide/barium by way of chemtrails and a process of geoengineering. The aluminium and barium increases the intensity of fires and will even leap over rivers and streams to continue the burning process. The GOP has nothing to do with this. Why do you think 40,000 firemen are needed to put these fires out???
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I'll agree that the clear cutting of dead trees may have helped, but do you have any clue how big an effort that would be? There's little or no profit to be made from it so it would have to be tax-funded and this isn't your backyard Sparky. California has 33 million acres of forest. The cost to tax payers would be enormous and if you're a Republican you already know it's not something the Republicans in Sacramento would support.

But it makes for a great scapegoat doesn't it?

BTW, it's not just California... The few states with anywhere close to 33 million acres of wilderness, such as Colorado and Oregon are also suffering from record breaking fires... Interestingly, a majority of the wilderness in these states are managed by the federal government under Trump. So it actually makes more sense to ask him why we aren't clear cutting all the dead trees. in 2019, 85% of the fires in California were on federal land!

And it's not just the western states where all the national forests are... Australia which has been under a conservative government for years is having a horrible time with record-breaking fires. Africa is also suffering. Record-breaking fires are raging all around the world and you want to blame it on California environmentalists?

Also, clear cutting dead trees from the vast wilderness is not something ANY state OR country has EVER done before. So obviously, THAT isn't the root cause of the problem. So try again Sparky.

As for the chemtrails, there's been a recent study in which 76 scientists found no evidence that chemtrails contain anything that can't be explained by the simple process of flying through the air at certain altitudes, much less as part of a nefarious conspiracy to sterilize people or control their minds or any of the other bizarre claims that come with the conspiracy theory. One scientist, referring to one isolated observation noticed levels of barium in the atmosphere were unusually high relative to the levels of barium in the soil. But there is nothing to suggest that was caused by the observed airplane.

But I gotta give you a standing ovation for actually trying to link the chemtrail conspiracy theory to the fires that are raging across the globe.
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