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Aug 13, 2013 01:26:52   #
rumitoid wrote:
There was one covenant with God, which included the whole Mosaic Law. There were not three or arbitrary parts of the law.


but, the important thing is not the rules, but the relationships with him and each other.

L.TAYLOR, 6/18/13 re-141
RELATIONSHIPS

HOW DOES GOD LOOK AT ME, HOW DO WE SEE EACH OTHER?
SUPPOSE HE LOOKS TENDERLY, SUPPOSE WE FEEL A SMOTHER?
COULD IT BE THAT INSTEAD, HE KNOWS WE NEED SUPPORT.
THE THOUGHTS IN OUR HEAD, COME FROM ANOTHER COURT.

MOST OF THE TIME WE DISPLAY, INDIFFERENCE TO HIS WORD.
WE GO OUR OWN FOOLISH WAY, JUST FOLLOWING THE HERD.
HE LETS US PLAY OUR ROLE, HOLDING BACK ON HIS WRATH.
KNOWING THAT AS A SOUL, WE ARE TRAVELING EVIL PATH.

HE MAKES OUR WAY SEEM HARD, SO THAT WE MAY STUMBLE.
WE SEE HIS FULL REGARD, AND LEARN THEN TO BE HUMBLE.
WE SEE EACH SMALL CORRECTION, AND THEN START TO FEAR.
THAT IN HIS FINAL SELECTION, HE WILL MAKE US DISAPPEAR.

BUT GOD IS JUST WAITING, FOR A TIME TO BRING ON A STRIKE.
HE IS WITH US HERE DEBATING, TURNING OUR FEAR INTO LIKE.
THEN FROM LIKE TO LOVE, THAT'S WHEN WE FINALLY REALIZE.
JUSTICE FROM GOD ABOVE, IS ALWAYS MERCIFUL IN HIS EYES.

HE HAS BEFORE OUR MIND, SHOWN US SOME OF HIS CHARACTER.
BUT KNOWS HE NEEDS TO REMIND, THAT HE IS THE MAIN ACTOR.
HE WATCHES OUR LEARNING PACE, WHILE IN THIS STRICKEN WORLD.
SHOWING US WITH AMAZING GRACE, HIS LOVE THEN IS UNFURLED.

HE TELLS US THAT WE ARE ALL, TO WALK THIS WORLD OF HATE.
AND WE MUST ALWAYS TO RECALL, SATAN DOES NOT EVEN RATE.
CHRIST CAME TO DEFINE, AND TO MAKE OUR LIFE MORE ABLE.
SO OUR WILLS REALIGN, AND WE ESCAPE SATAN'S FALSE FABLE.

SATAN HAS WELL DELUDED, ALMOST ALL PEOPLE ON THIS EARTH.
WE NEED NOT BE INCLUDED, BECAUSE OUR GOD OFFERS US REBIRTH.
WE CAN FOLLOW LORD JESUS, WHO CAME ON EARTH TO DEMONSTRATE.
THE WAY GOD REALLY SEES US, AND HOW WE CAN BY LOVE RELATE.

JESUS EXPRESSED GOD'S LOVE, BY SHOWING TO US THE BANNER.
COVERING US FROM ABOVE, IN HIS SPECIAL UNTARNISHED MANNER.
HE ASKS US TO REPENT, AND TRUST OURSELVES ONLY JUST TO HIM/
AND WITH THIS HOLY EVENT, WE WILL SEE OUR ANXIETY WILL DIM.

THE NEW WAY WE ARE TO LEARN, IS ONE OF MERCY AND TRUTH.
OUR LIFE IS HIS CONCERN, AND WILL NOT LET IT BE UNCOUTH.
HE SAYS LOVE ONE ANOTHER, THE WAY YOU LOVE YOURSELF.
BUT DO NOT TRY TO SMOTHER, LEAVE CONTROL ON THE SHELF.

THE WAY TO REAL SALVATION, IS NOT BY SOME RIGID FIXED RULES.
BUT BY GENTLE PERSUASION, LOVE IS ONE OF YOUR SPECIAL TOOLS.
WHEN YOU KNOW GOD'S LOVE, YOU CAN SEE HIS NEW GENTLE WAYS.
THE ANGELS FROM ABOVE, WILL HELP YOUR KINDER LOVING DISPLAYS.

WE NEED NOT TRY TO MANIPULATE, FOR THAT IS NOT OF OUR TOOL.
ALL THAT DOES IS CREATE, A FRIGHTENED VICTIM AND NOT A JEWEL.
WE MUST SHAPE OUR NEW LIFE, BASED ON ALL THE FATHER'S TRUTH.
AND ELIMINATE THE ANGRY STRIFE, SO WE KNOW WHAT IS NOW COUTH.

WE CANNOT STEP FAR BACK, WE MUST USE THE TOOL OF LOVE.
IN THE WAY WE REACT, TO ANY NASTY AND NEGATIVE SHOVE.
WE MUST FILL OUR HEARTS, AND OPEN FULLY BOTH OF OUR EYES.
\UNTIL ALL FEAR DEPARTS, AND COURAGE CAN THEN EASILY ARISE.

(Prov 3:12)(John 1:14 )(Song 2:4)(1John 1:7)(Josh 24:15)(Matt 22:39)(John 2:28)(Eph 4:15)(Eph 4:22-23)
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Aug 13, 2013 00:38:10   #
Now where did you get that idea? The ordancies were created to teach the people how to relate to God. Just as the temple and services were. Howver, these were done away with by Christ and his new covenant of Grace. The Mosiac law was never intended to do anything but teach the early people how to behave in favorable ways. Christ's new covenant puts the Commandments in the heart and mind of those that believe. The price of salvation is belief and faith.
rhumatoid wrote
There was one covenant with God, which included the whole Mosaic Law. There were not three or arbitrary parts of the law
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Aug 13, 2013 00:34:06   #
Now where did you get that idea? The ordancies were created to teach the people how to relate to God. Just as the temple and services were. Howver, these were done away with by Christ and his new covenant of Grace. The Mosiac law was never intended to do anything but teach the early people how to behave in favorable ways. Christ's new covenant puts the Commandments in the heart and mind of those that believe. The price of salvation is belief and faith.
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Aug 11, 2013 23:47:20   #
runitoid wrote
The Mosaic Law includes the moral, social, and ceremonial; there is no scriptural separation

Ah but there is, Moses detailed ordances so that the unenlightened could understand. The law written in stone, was always meant to be the basic foundation of human and holy relations. The fact that we are unable to use it to our advantage is the reason for the sacrifice. Since is is a statement of relationships, it is not meant to be anything else than the statemen of ownership and expectations. Christ boiled them down to two. Love God, and Love your neighbor as yourself. Why is that so tough?
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Aug 11, 2013 23:25:06   #
I said we need to teach them to learn what they are interested. It is done for music, it is done for engineering, it is done for computers. what ever has the interest should be the theme of learning, Teaching without an earnest goal is just philosophy. Everyone is good at that.
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Aug 11, 2013 23:17:32   #
rumitoid wrote:
Let me try. The Jews could not keep their covenant with God, no one able to follow Mosaic Law (all of it: there is no scriptural division of this Law into three parts; this is an invented study aid). It would have been just and right for God to abolish the Law and thus abandon His choosen people. Instead, His son came and fulfilled it for them, ushering in a New Covenant of grace and the Holy Spirit, not effort and intent of the law. Faith in Christ, not law-keeping, brings salvation. By completely surrendering to Christ, we get the motivation and strength to act in with love in all that we do, which is the sum of the law and prophets.
Let me try. The Jews could not keep their covenant... (show quote)


It wasn't GOD'S law that was nailed to the cross,it was the Moaiac ordancies that was nailed there. God's law was fulflled and never abolished. The moral law, ten commanments, are never to be abolished because they are keys to God's character.
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Aug 11, 2013 19:41:47   #
how is it that those of us outside the educationalsystm can see the poblems, but those inside it cannot? What is the thing that we see tat they do not, or what is it that we do not see that they do? Are we eating the same food, or are we on a different diet altogether. I talk to kids at times, and they do not feel that what the schools are teaching is relevant to their life. But, it is mostly because there are too many things available to them that disract them from learing. They qickly pick up the tube nosense and fantasy, and believe it is relevant and real. All this tells me,is that the schools are stuck in the same rut they were in 60 years ago. I graduated High Scool in 1950, and from that point started learning the real world. The only use I got out of school, was a good start.

My real education started in the Military. And that was up to me. No one forced me to learn, it was learn or lose out.

Maybe a forced education system is the wrong way to go. Let's end it after eighth grade, and make it voluntary from that point on. Then if you want to continue, you can,if not you lose out.
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Aug 11, 2013 18:34:38   #
There seems to be a thrust in politics to equalize every wierd and strange form of behavior in order to seem being FAIR, what ever the heck that means. I find that our government employees are treated like privileged persons, which is why their idea of fair seems so far outside of what (normal) people have to endure. We have a special class of idiot making the rules, and for some obscure reason keep putting them back in power year after year. ie weiner

If homosexuals wish to be treated special, lets have them wear a pink star as an identifying symbol so we are not suprised by their impulsivness.
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Aug 11, 2013 12:22:00   #
Just for kicks, What kind of education do you think we should be giving our young people? What good does it do them if they are given nonsense and call it education. We should be preparing every student to LEARN what ever they desire to perfect. It is the method of learning that we are not giving. We expect our children to want to learn by boring them to tears with mundane and useless subjects. If you had your choice, What should the progam be?

Right now, it is purely founded on boredom. Most of the students find no redeeming value in what they are supposed to be learning. It has no practical use.
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Aug 11, 2013 12:11:21   #
It is my firm believe, that most of the people in Congress, are bought and paid for by people who do not understand the basic purpose of this country. They are too involved in graft, crime,and dishonesty, that they do not know what or how most free people wish government to behave.

I doubt if any of us know that the best form of government is not to fulfill the DESIRES of the few, but to fulfill the NEEDS of the many. Don't force me to accept something I don't want until you satisfy the things I need.

There are a lot of unemployed that NEED jobs. Fix that!
There are a lot of people that NEED a decent wage, Fix that.
There a lot of people that need fair prices. Fix that.
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Aug 11, 2013 12:10:51   #
It is my firm believe, that most of the people in Congress, are bought and paid for by people who do not understand the basic purpose of this country. They are too involved in graft, crime,and dishonesty, that they do not know what or how most free people wish government to behave.

I doubt if any of us know that the best form of government is not to fulfill the DESIRES of the few, but to fulfill the NEEDS of the many. Don't force me to accept something I don't want until you satisfy the things I need.

There are a lot of unemployed that NEED jobs. Fix that!
There are a lot of people that NEED a decent wage, Fix that.
There a lot of people that need fair prices. Fix that.
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Aug 11, 2013 11:36:55   #
There is a major problem in talking about Christianity in this present age. All Sunday keeping sects, are following the Pagan influance of Rome. Therefore, they are not really folowing Christ. Christ stated that the law was inviolate, and only the Mosiac dictates were done away with. We are fortunately in the Kingdom of Grace, and as long as we are infused with the Spirit of Grace, we should be able to follow the teachings of Christ. There is just one basic tenet. Love.
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Aug 11, 2013 11:24:08   #
For some reason, I fail to see the social value in homosexuality. Unless it is just to keep the population down to nothing. But wars are good at that. Why don't we have a single military company for Homosexuals if they really want to serve in the Military. We did it to the blacks at one wrong time. But if they want to stand out as Homosexuals, let them. Let them be separate just like Sodom and Gomorrah. We know how they were thought of.
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