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Feb 26, 2017 13:26:42   #
roadster wrote:
Well said! Take some positions of the Republican Party that are essentially brain-dead. Social Security & Medicare. Everyone knows privatizing those areas are only to make friends rich with fees for investing & trading so much. Revolving door! You need to remember when Pres. G.W. Bush went around the country trying to "sell" these changes to Social Security (privatize, less in payments out to you and raising your retirement age. Just saying this won't affect you but all others younger than you is really dumb.) Since our U.S. society, SHEEP are so influenced by money, then watch them encourage the lies. Yes, DECEIT is so encouraged in U.S. society that they are actually rewarded/supported by their vote plus rhetoric when what should be unacceptable conduct of LYING is now acceptable conduct.
No I'm not upset so much at those in the majority (achieved by lying), I'm upset with U.S. society.
I use to believe that sheep have got to be the dumbest creatures on this earth. Oooops now replaced with U.S. society. Lie to them and watch them go & do whatever you want!
Our Legislative Branch is against the minimum wage BUT vote themselves a raise plus COLA every year. They need all that money but nobody else does.
I could go on forever but the people holding high positions of our government actually do worship something and it's NOT God, it's MONEY.
Our government is only a reflection of our society. If that doesn't make you sick to your stomach then nothing will.
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Good One, ego, nice to see you hear.
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Feb 26, 2017 13:10:40   #
pafret wrote:
Sometimes you get fooled and what should have been reliable inputs turn out to have deliberately falsified. Or, the usually reliable source had false information planted on them. Repeating such information, without intent to deceive is not lying, it is called making a mistake.

In the old paradigm, the gold standard was "Seeing is Believing" but with the advent of digital recording seeing is most certainly not proof of truth. The interpretation of some events may be true but not strictly accurate. Obama speaking to the illegal immigrant is a case in point. She wanted to go to the polls to vote but was afraid she would be arrested. Obama didn't say "go vote". What he did say was to assure her she would not by arrested at the polling place. By inference he was telling her it was OK to vote and some of his other remarks such as "when you vote you are an American". He didn't say you are a citizen, but no one refers to Mexicans as Americans even though they live on the North American continent, just as Canadians are not referred to as Americans. So again by inference he is telling her she has citizenship rights.

It does not take a Constitutional Scholar to know that Obama's comments were pure BS and he was advising her to do something illegal. Even though the film clip was doctored as you say, nowhere in the many versions did Obama say do not attempt to vote, it is against the law and will affect your chance of staying in this country.
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I got confused reading what you said. Well thanks for responding regardless.
I try my best to stay away from inference when I can because a persons' bias is greatly involved; no he really means this or that, because I wanted to be led there.
I was once a person who spoke to thousands of people over an echo-relayed microphone (difficult) and every time someone believed I said & meant something completely different than what I said.
I heard a good one the other day coming from a Professor saying to someone that he would fail a 3rd grade science test by refusing to accept facts plainly in-front of him. Funny one though accurate.
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Feb 26, 2017 13:05:35   #
kankune wrote:
Exceptional thread, Roadster!!! Thx and directly to the point....


No Thank you kankune! Sometimes I feel pretty alone out here. Proved to someone yesterday of an untrustworthy (so-called) news host. The guy agreed all were lies but said he would follow him regardless. Deceit is totally acceptable conduct coming from someone who said he absolutely does not believe/encourage/trust a liar. When I said hypocrisy he got pretty upset. Well so what I say.
Nice to know you are out there.
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Feb 25, 2017 12:39:34   #
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Feb 25, 2017 12:34:09   #
"Everything we say & do is a direct result of your own personal ethics." Please don't get tired of this quote. DECEIT must be in the top 3 of what is ethics.

The Trump Administration stated: 14% of all non-citizens are registered to vote. WHAT? That couldn't be true. Have to research this one, find out who, what, when, where all credible. There goes the weekend.

Some people are a bit more busy than me & are not going to put the time into verifying things. I'm the type that once you've lied to me it's almost impossible to get me to believe/trust you again. Yes, I'm all sorts of fun during election time and since I watch political things, well there are not enough hours in the day to research all the lies hitting us from every direction.

Why not lie? Does our government lie to us? Yes, come-on give me a question that takes some thought to respond. Does the media lie to us? Yes, come-on same response.

Government lies to us, gullible people believe & get active. Instead of checking out the lie, they reward/encourage the liars by getting more active. Not only will they walk right off a cliff, they'll run off that cliff. Ooops, when the same people find out they were lied to, they keep on believing the liars. Perfect example of gullible, not too bright, terrible ethics. Yes, they all say they are the most ethical people they know. Don't believe that one. If it was the government that lied to you, you turn around and encourage the liars by voting for the scum. If it was the media that lied to you, you turn around and encourage the liars, becoming active. Exactly what the government and the media wants you to do. Whoever lied to you should never be in ANY POSITION in our society.

Who was that network that recently photo-shopped (edited) a video of Pres. Obama so he was saying even the illegals can vote? California is full of the voting illegals? Sure did take some effort from those to edit that video. Those who were editing the video certainly knew what the truth was. These same people are paid by the hour. Even salary, someone (producer) was directing them. So producers knew the truth. The so-called journalists who are suppose to be up on what is happening in politics should have known the truth. All those deliberately LIED. Even if they come back with a retraction, I certainly couldn't believe that one. They were hoping for the few to listen to the retraction (exactly what happened). People actually believed that one. Who was that corporate network? FOX.

If YOU accept anything that network says, then who is the ethical person? Regardless of your age, far from being an adult. If you turn or keep the TV channel to that network. Well, ratings, still far from being an ethical person. The network says they have all these "fact-checkers" employed. No, you don't! All the mainstream media I've caught in LIES.

Society in the U.S. considers DECEIT (lies) as acceptable conduct. They act as if we are the problem since we are big on "Critical Thinking". They get upset & are not adult while we're big on ethics. The government & media would not have gotten so far, in such bad shape, if lying was unacceptable conduct to U.S. society.

Networks & government gain by controlling the masses. It happened to me in my younger years, not any more. Anything I get from that network, I get from others running video clips. Saves me some time on research. The Public, Our Society, is the problem. If the government or media tells you something false, they only have to do that once. There is an exception, remember: "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me?".

Have you ever met a criminal? Be it a murder, rapist, burglar, etc., they have all had one quality in-common to me, all LIARS.

You want to fix government? You want to fix the media? (I'm talking all mainstream media & the bias reporting) Some common-sense advise, STOP ENCOURAGING THE LIARS!
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Feb 24, 2017 12:14:24   #
fullspinzoo wrote:
Please site some examples if you would. I find him to be one of the more LOYAL foot soldiers for Trump. In fact I think Hannity was one of the reasons that helped Trump get elected in a big way. Just IMHO. So I respect your opinion, but come up with some examples if you can to back up your position. I bet if you asked Trump himself, he would have flattering things to say about Sean in relationship to his campaign. Gave him a lot of air time almost like an infomercial. Trump got the job done which bottom line is all that matters. If HRC had won, last nail in American coffin,IMO.
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I'm not an "end-justifies-the-means" person. I'm big on ethics and down on DECEIT. (BTW I had to look into some old papers to respond to you, I hope I cite enough but I also don't live on the computer. I'm trying to do more around the house than be in the computer.)
Hannity, the Democrats in Colorado have initiated a bill in this 11th hour (this was during an election) that will prevent Republicans from voting in the last hours of this election. FALSE, there was no bill, there was only an effort to expand voting to as many people as they could. I suspect FOX wanted more Republicans to the polls due to their exit polls.
Hannity, stuffing the ballot box Democrats voting illegally in election. FALSE, there was no design by Democrats to stuff any ballot box. Yes, people voted that during the time they voted and the day the ballots were counted, the person died. Nobody knows how these people voted, Republican or Democrat but the numbers were inflated by 100 fold (due to the scratches I made on the paper when doing the research).
Hannity, birther. If someone is lying about something you later state on the news to millions of people, then it is assumed you have checked out what was said to ensure the statements are credible. The birther arguments about Obama were lies to begin with. I assume stating such must have energized the people they were trying to reach. That research really didn't take long, I had already been immersed into this research stuff. I was able to get a copy of a birth certificate (with help) that really looked like a copy rather than a computer generated fill-in-the-form.
Is 3 good enough? Gotta go, may check back tomorrow.
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Feb 24, 2017 11:51:22   #
lpnmajor wrote:
President Bannon finally brought his administration out of the closet, by openly announcing that he is in the midst of a hostile takeover of the Republican party. Why hostile? Well, you'd have to ask a Republican that question.

Bannons spokesperson, Donald Trump, had promised to "clean the swamp" in DC, "take on the special interests" and "take on Wall Street" during the campaign. This was obviously a ruse, as President Bannon ( being a former wall street executive ) has handed management of the economy to Goldman Sacks executives, hired some of the swampy people to high Cabinet positions, and hired special interest lackeys to fill every other position that they formerly lobbied against.

What surprised me, were the number of republican lawmakers involved in supporting this takeover of their party. Apparently, they weren't as "true blue" ( or red ) as they claimed, at least not to the GOP and it's platform. Of course, both democratic and republican politicians kissed the boots of the rich, but they tried to do it in secret. Now though, President Bannon is doing it right out in plain sight, by giving them command of the administration - and the republican party. It makes sense though, why pay for access, when you can BE the access?

In a previous incarnation, President Bannon expressed his desire to rip the GOP asunder and destroy it completely. What better way to accomplish this task, than doing it from the inside? For those faithful republican voters out there, what will your party look like when President Bannon gets through with it? That's assuming that there is still a republican party by then. With the FAKE NEWS rhetoric spouted by Bannon's operatives, including Pence, that the heated townhall meetings were caused by liberal activists, has further alienated the republican base, and potentially driven them away. What lifelong republican would accept being labeled a liberal activist? Not many, I would imagine, yet that's what has happened. What party can survive AS a party, by telling it's faithful voters that they will comply - or else? Ask the democratic party what happens when you take high handed and elitist attitudes towards your voters.

The curtain has been drawn back and the wizard has come out of the closet ( pun intended ), showing the world who is in charge and what their agenda is. The agenda is essentially this; if the GOP is for it, Bannon will destroy it. If the GOP is all about fiscal conservancy, Bannon is about spend, spend, spend. It's a brilliant plan - for deconstructing the Republican party. This hands easy wins to the democrats, but what does President Bannon care?
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Well said! Take some positions of the Republican Party that are essentially brain-dead. Social Security & Medicare. Everyone knows privatizing those areas are only to make friends rich with fees for investing & trading so much. Revolving door! You need to remember when Pres. G.W. Bush went around the country trying to "sell" these changes to Social Security (privatize, less in payments out to you and raising your retirement age. Just saying this won't affect you but all others younger than you is really dumb.) Since our U.S. society, SHEEP are so influenced by money, then watch them encourage the lies. Yes, DECEIT is so encouraged in U.S. society that they are actually rewarded/supported by their vote plus rhetoric when what should be unacceptable conduct of LYING is now acceptable conduct.
No I'm not upset so much at those in the majority (achieved by lying), I'm upset with U.S. society.
I use to believe that sheep have got to be the dumbest creatures on this earth. Oooops now replaced with U.S. society. Lie to them and watch them go & do whatever you want!
Our Legislative Branch is against the minimum wage BUT vote themselves a raise plus COLA every year. They need all that money but nobody else does.
I could go on forever but the people holding high positions of our government actually do worship something and it's NOT God, it's MONEY.
Our government is only a reflection of our society. If that doesn't make you sick to your stomach then nothing will.
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Feb 24, 2017 11:28:22   #
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
Shut up! Spend more time with your chin bib collection.........you have 4 + years of kneeling ahead ( pun intended)

Punk!


If anyone thinks they are gaining attention or making themselves feel any better by these foul belittling comments, well think again.
I stopped watching Hannity some years ago. "Everything we say & do is a direct result of your own personal ethics." I refuse to allow DECEIT to influence my life! A FACT does NOT become relevant simply because you like what it says. In fact, that is what caused me to stop with Hannity. I decided to check-out what he was saying (I was a loyal patron of his program) so I could argue more to encourage that topic. I had strict self-imposed rules to establish credibility in my sources all in my research of what was said. I caught him, & that so-called news network (I now call them entertainment) in more lies than I care to mention. My opinion had to change if I was going to call myself an "Ethical" person. I could NOT encourage, support, repeat anything that was DECEIT. A bit ashamed of myself for being so gullible. I had to stop paying attention to that network and research the other networks. I call them "mainstream media" who are NOT journalists, the host of a show is there due to attractiveness rather than brains. They say what they are paid to say!
Yes, I've taken "Critical Thinking" to the next level and have become a cynic (I would rather now be).
I still have tendencies to read/absorb the so-called right-wing. I now am quite quiet when it comes to repeating the s*%t these people are shoveling. I refuse to be one of the sheep in the heard.
Self-imposed back-to-school for me, and self-educating regarding these important issues.
I determined that IF I am an "Ethical" person, I first had to ensure what I am spewing is accurate.
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Feb 24, 2017 11:08:02   #
We have too much HATE/WAR/VIOLENCE mongers among us. I do know where all this hate comes from. It was VietNam and I certainly was one of the top predators with violence/hate. Those days and in that arena you were awarded what we called "Tin" to wear for our violence. The age-old saying "If I knew then what I know now." is applicable. Violence against a Bully was the best way I knew of confronting a Bully, and I was good at it.
Today, I see those involved in this violence as scum that needs to be prosecuted and put with the rest of the scum. Away from a thriving society! Prison!
"Everything we say & do is a direct result of your own personal ethics."

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http://www.barenakedislam.com/2017/02/24/paris-shouting-dirty-jewish-expletive-you-will-die-muslim-thugs-beat-up-two-orthodox-jewish-brothers/

It apparently is becoming the norm in Europe. They will succeed unless everything that can be done is done to the fullest extent possible.
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Feb 23, 2017 12:46:19   #
Responding to Vernon, Trump deceived us (me)? So much! Birther, Trump knew the whole time he was lying, plus never were people in Hawaii investigating Obamas' birth. So many believed & pushed by a certain LYING network. Almost every time Trump talks is a lie! Size of crowd for his inauguration. Millions in voter fraud, lie. Mexican illegal immigrants criminals LIE. (I've lived in So. Arizona most my life, guess I may know more about this issue than others).
Lie to me once and I can not believe/trust you again. Shame most of U.S. society are NOT like this though they say they are. Trump accomplishing things in just a month? If I were you, I would stop watching FOX or other network news or just believing them. "That's what I was told." If you hear that from an adult, that person is too ignorant, gullible to check things out for themselves.
Am I down on Trump? Less than I am down on U.S. society. Low-lifes not ethical persons, too gullible and lazy. Trump lies and gains a vote. Just encouraged to lie some more. I'm down on who encouraged him. Stop electing lying followers and start electing ethical leaders!

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I have to assume you think Trump deceived you .just how did that happen?I had my doubts about trump but i have to say he is a working man ,i have never seen anyone in high office work as hard or accomplished more in a month than Trump.Now we need to get Ryan and mcconnel off their ass and perform at about the same level.
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Feb 22, 2017 13:19:12   #
Strange how I have followed Sweden for some time. I wouldn't visit there if I were you. These riots have been happening for some time. Schools, hospitals burned to the ground. Sweden accepted refugees without enough housing (more than they could handle). If that were you, then you'd be protesting yourself (I guess a way to keep warm in that cold climate).
The news media of Sweden kept such out of the news as long as they could by simply not reporting on it, but thanks to social media today the word got out.
HEY, Sweden is a Socialist country with Socialist media, that's the same that is happening here! If you are acting upon something that our media told you WITHOUT doing some research of credible information (at least 3 credible citations on each issue) then you can do something with ethics. I would not do so much based upon the word of any media today.
The 1 topic I have researched so many times is the DECEIT we are told from all directions. I'm really sick of the propaganda all around us.
Funny watching mainstream media TV so-called news. People trying to act like a journalist when he/she got their job as a host due to their looks, attractive. They are so biased. You act upon what an actor is telling you?
Now you know why we're in the mess we are now. If the truth hurts, look in the mirror!

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Nets Ignore Violent Immigrant Riot in Sweden After Mocking Trump
By Nicholas Fondacaro | February 22, 2017 | 12:34 AM EST
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After spending literally days mocking President Donald Trump for inventing a “Sweden Incident” involving Middle East immigrants, the liberal Big Three networks were hanging their heads in shame Tuesday morning in the wake a violent immigrant riot that broke out in Stockholm the night before. “Police in Sweden are investigating a riot that broke out overnight in a predominantly immigrant suburb of Stockholm,” announced Fox News anchor Bret Baier during Special Report, yet it went unreported by the nets all day.

According to Baier, “The clashes started when a police officer arrested a drug suspect and people began throwing stones. One officer fired his gun but no one was hit. A police spokesman said some civilians who tried to stop the looters were assaulted themselves.”

He even took the time to poke a little fun at the media who chastised the President and Fox News for reporting “false” information. “Over the weekend, you remember President Trump was criticized for referencing an interview on Fox News that cited crime significantly increasing in the wake of Muslim immigration problems in Sweden,” he said with a smirk.

But the damage was worse that Baier alluded too. “More riots erupted later in the evening, causing damage to shopfronts as well as instances of looting,” CNN (who also mocked Trump) reported, “A police spokesperson said 10 cars had been torched, but that order and security had been restored by midnight.”

And despite repudiation from Swedish Prime Minister Stefan Lofven of high crime rates, Swedish police admitted to CNN that “that while riots like those on Monday night are unusual, it is not the first time unrest has broken out in Rinkeby.” CNN recalled that in 2013 “riots flared for a week” with schools and a police station being set on fire.

During ABC’s Good Morning America Tuesday morning, Clinton lackey George Stephanopoulos and correspondent Jon Karl had what was arguably either moment of complete ignorance or a denial of reality, as they continued to mock the idea of violence in Sweden.

“No internal vetting of those comments about Sweden and what a diplomatic incident they have created,” Stephanopoulos scorned during a conversation about the White House vetting Trump’s revamped travel restrictions. Karl responded by hyping a tweet from the official Swedish twitter account that attacked the US for its crime rate:

Yeah, it's something else. You know, there was -- the official Swedish Twitter account which is actually controlled each week by a Swedish citizen had an interesting tweet, “We have around 100 murders per year. That's like two days in the U.S. Two days.” You know, the bottom line is Sweden has taken in a lot of immigrants, about 200,000 refugees over the last few years. But there is no sign at least yet of any kind of a major spike in crime in Sweden.

No mention from Karl of the Monday night riot and no mention of the riots in 2013. The failure to even grant the news a brief shows the liberal networks’ unwillingness to give Trump any ground even when he’s correct. Their blackout of reality only serves to do more harm than good.
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Feb 22, 2017 13:02:50   #
President T. Jefferson was the most brilliant President we have ever had, my opinion.
I like to read history of the U.S. one of my favorite topics. I just finished a book "Autobiography of Thomas Jefferson". I thought a good book.
There is an interesting part on separation of church & state applicable to today.
Let's face it, (poor choice of words), some people are just plane ignorant. Teaching lies to the public for the point of making sure someone believes what YOU believe is also ignorant. Facts are neither true or false, real facts not fabricated evidence otherwise lies.
Trump accomplished something the clearest majority of society would not even think of trying, he's now President. I'll give him that, not an easy thing to accomplish. I'm still no Trump supporter for 1 simple truth.... "Everything we say & do is a direct result of your own personal ethics." Once I'm deceived, lied to, it is almost impossible to get me to believe you again. It only takes once.
Contrary to society, lying is unacceptable conduct. Lie to U.S. society and they encourage you to lie more by voting you into some office of prominence/control. Sad!

Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
Thomas Jefferson Statue Defaced At His Own Alma Mater

Author Warns Only 'a Matter of Time' Before Memory of Founding Father Purged

World Net Daily ~ Feb 22, 2017

(As You Read This [I Found Disturbing] Article, It Says That Some [I'm Guessing Mostly Militant Blacks & Leftist Whites] Find Jefferson And Other Southern Founding Fathers Places On Campuses And Our History Disturbing, So They Should Be Removed!!! I FIND THEM UN-AMERICAN AND THEY SHOULD BE REMOVED AS IN "MAN WITHOUT A COUNTRY"!!! The Left Want America To Be The Next Socialist Experiment [never mind they have never worked] They Want America As We Know It Gone And If You Disagree, You Are Scum!!! Last Week Someone Said President Trump Could Discover The Cure For Cancer And The Left Would Demonetizes Him For It!!! I Agree 100%... Don D.)

The College of William & Mary, the second oldest institution of higher learning in the country, was the alma mater of some of the most important figures in American history. Yet none of its distinguished alumni is as admired or influential as Thomas Jefferson, the country's third president and the author of the Declaration of Independence.

At least until now.

A statue of Jefferson at the school was Defaced Over The Weekend. The words "slave owner" were written nearby, and Jefferson's hands were painted red to signify blood. Because the statue is of bronze, the school will have to consult a metal conservator to remove the paint without damaging it.

Some students on campus told reporters they hope the incident will lead to a "conversation" about slavery on campus. Scott Greer, author of "No Campus For White Men," believes it is just the first step in what will be the eventual purge of Jefferson from William & Mary's legacy.

"It should come as no surprise that Thomas Jefferson, a Founding Father who articulated the principles of our country, would be reduced to an evil slave owner by the campus left," he said.

"The great accomplishments of white men are washed away if they held the prevailing viewpoints of their time period. Jefferson's status as a white male slave owner is far more important than him writing the Declaration of Independence or serving as the third president to the campus left. It's only a matter of time until there is a serious effort to erase Jefferson from William & Mary."

No one has yet been identified as responsible for the property destruction.

But it's not the first time the Jefferson statue on campus has been targeted. In 2015, the statue of Jefferson was plastered with sticky notes calling him a "rapist" and a "racist" and proclaiming "Black Lives Matter."

Students and faculty at the University of Virginia, the school Thomas Jefferson actually founded, are also campaigning against Jefferson's legacy, demanding the college president stop quoting him because it makes them feel "deeply offended." (To F**king Bad!! Don D.)

David Barton, a historian and author of "The Jefferson Lies," mourns what he believes is the inevitable result of leftists' distortions of history.

"The radicalism of today's students on campus should come as a surprise to no one," he told WND. "Over the past several decades, a high percentage of college professors have been teaching college students to hate America – that America is the worst of all nations. We have specifically taught students to despise our former heroes and to reject our institutions.

"Thus we see Berkeley students praised by their professors for the Recent Violent Riots that destroyed private property and businesses around the campus – riots caused by nothing more than inviting a conservative to speak on campus.

"And a study within the last year documents that of the top 76 elite universities in America, 65 do not require history majors to take even one course in American history. Imagine! History majors who know absolutely nothing about American history! And only 3 percent of universities today require a course in free-market economics.

"No wonder today's students love socialism, hate traditional values, and know nothing good about American history or heroes."

Barton argues Thomas Jefferson was a major opponent of slavery who worked all his life to end the practice. He also contends Jefferson was not the "racist" he has been portrayed as.

(On The 20th. I watch 7 hours of "John Adams", every interesting, one sean, has Jefferson talking to Franklin & Adams and he says slavery is an abomination! For me that speaks volumes about his caricature even as a slaver owner and southern with all that baggage... Don D.)

"Students today need to study Thomas Jefferson's own writings and actions rather than listening to the blatantly false claims of those who hate America and her Founders," he advised.

"If Thomas Jefferson is as racist as professors today claim, then why was he praised as a civil rights advocate by black civil rights leaders across the generations, including Benjamin Banneker, Frederick Douglas, Henry Highland Garnet, Martin Luther King Jr. and so many others?

"Do today's professors know more about Jefferson and civil rights than those who spent their entire life studying and seeking those civil rights? And if Thomas Jefferson was so pro-slavery, then why did he faithfully introduce anti-slavery laws and anti-slavery measures and support anti-slavery societies and abolition movements for nearly 60 years of his adult life?

"Yes, Jefferson owned slaves, but he repeatedly tried to pass laws not only to free his own slaves, but all those in his state of Virginia. Sadly, he was unsuccessful. And state law would not allow him to free his own slaves. History clearly shows that Jefferson should be seen as an early anti-slavery advocate who was far ahead of his time in his home state."

In "The Jefferson Lies," Barton dismantles several claims made about Jefferson, including the claim DNA evidence proved Jefferson fathered children with his slave Sally Hemings. He argues political correctness has completely distorted Jefferson's legacy.

"While Jefferson, like every human, had his faults, black Americans and all Americans should see Jefferson as one of the strongest early advocates for racial civil rights and rejoice that Jefferson's words and actions were used by abolitionists to help bring about the end of slavery," said Barton. "They should also know that neither historical records nor modern scientific DNA evidence has shown that Jefferson fathered any children through slave Sally Hemings. All unfounded claims about Jefferson should be rejected, and all proven truth about him should be accepted. This would radically change the way this generation views Jefferson, and they would understand why Jefferson was such a hero to Americans of all colors and races for so many generations."

Still, Barton is not optimistic.

He says he wrote "The Jefferson Lies" to combat the lies against Jefferson and the other Founding Fathers. But like Greer, he believes the attacks will only increase.

"There will be definitely be increasing attacks against Jefferson, as there has been against virtually all Founding Fathers and other American institutions and heroes," he said. "Jesus reminds us in Luke 6:40 that 'every student, when he is fully trained, will be like his teacher.'

"Numerous studies irrefutably document that left-wing academia has a tremendous dislike for America and American values, so it should be no surprise this is also becoming the view of their students in hundreds of campuses across the nation."

(The Students of Today Will Be The Leaders of Tomorrow, What Have We Done To Our Nation Because We Were To Damn Lazy To Say Enough!!! Don D.)
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Feb 22, 2017 12:51:56   #
I'm told using this "quote reply" provides all can see the post. Hope it's working.
Superman? I love the comic books as much as the next guy, but I've used the title "Superman", maybe using that term was in error? (Hope not) Nobody is "Superman". U.S. society continually relies upon a single individual, him/her, to get involved, donate/volunteer their life so that you can rely upon them to fix all the problems. I've seen this attitude in almost everything from workplace, religion, government, well you name it.
So what a comfortable and safe position to be, all you have to do is very little, sit-back and throw stones, mud or flowers (depending). You are setting yourself up for disappointment & anger. The government got this way simply due to that train of thought. Get involved or shut-up, that is what life is about.
I feel sorry for those who run for public office. So many people do not get involved simply because govt. is in such a sad state "ALL DUE TO YOUR LACK ON INVOLVEMENT"!
"Everything we say & do is a direct result of your own personal ethics." Deceit certainly should rank somewhere in the top 3 of ethics. Why is the old joke so true? (You know when a politician is lying because his/her mouth is moving.) If lies were unacceptable conduct in society then you would not hear lies from politicians! Our 1st President, George Washington asked of all of us to expect every word from our government is a lie and you have to check things out for yourself. I see politicians lie as their default position, always lie. I see the so-called media lie and still today. I see news anchors relying upon statements that are pure lies, too lazy to check things out for themselves. If I catch you in a lie once then it is near impossible to get me to believe you again. I think that is ethics, and so many people will agree with me (no I'm not talking about a white lie we tell one of our loved ones to be polite and not hurt their feelings) that they are that way themselves, but they aren't. Lying to the masses IS acceptable conduct in U.S. society. Someone on some mainstream media says what they are paid to say to sway society and I see society like a bunch of sheep doing whatever the liars are telling them to do. YES, I'm down on people, society. I've taken critical thinking to the next level and a bit of a cynic.
Being "Politically Correct" is NOT tying the hands of anyone to accomplish anything! It is one of the many ways society uses to evolve, take the next step to be something better. You DO NOT use the "N" word to describe an African-American person, you damn bigot if you do!
I've found that what I was told as a child all those years ago is often true, let them talk to show everyone how ignorant he/she really is.
Who says that you have to be a liar or some deceiver/thief (otherwise a criminal) to be elected and accomplish anything in government? WRONG! If you think those elected in government are leaders? WRONG, they are our followers.
President Washington, you were right! I spent about 8 years in D.C. and know well how it works. If every person of U.S. society was exposed to the same, we'd be so much better off. We have 99%+ speaking loud who really don't know what they are talking about.
I should stop writing now, if you've read this far then I'm usually preaching to the choir. Those who do need to change their life most probably would have stopped reading this some time ago.
U.S. society, you want to change anything, start acting like it, be ethical then get involved!

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I Couldn't Agree More!!! Even Those of Us Who Later Wondered About Captain Marvel Never Doubted Superman, Believers Believe, Period! ... Don D.

AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

WHO SAYS SUPERMAN ISN'T REAL?

The Impact of Trump-Administered 'Dwindle-Juice' on Detractors

Barry Farber ~ Feb 21, 2017 ~ WND

When Superman was born on the planet Krypton in the comic-book universe I was just learning to read in the real-life universe of North Carolina. We budding readers spent a lot of time wondering and arguing if Superman were real.

I always voted No. And I was wrong. He may not be the Superman who darts into a handy phone booth to ditch the garb of meek reporter Clark Kent and don the Superman costume before flying to the fallen bridge to carry the crowded passenger train to safety, but make no mistake, a political Superman lives. He goes by the nickname of Donald Trump, and he lives in the White House.

On Saturday afternoon, Feb. 18, 2017, I was ready to admit my error in those pre-pubescent arguments. When a person towers over every other person in his field, you’re allowed to call him a “Superman”!

The Trump-taunters never learn. “He’ll never get nominated.” “He’ll never get elected,” etc. The taunts lasted clear up to the one at the Saturday rally’s opening, “Why is Trump staging an idiotic campaign rally after less than one full month in office?” One and all learned soon enough.

President Trump was taking a rough ride. He was getting clobbered over his dismissal of Mike Flynn as national security adviser. Trump took more of a beating for the failure of that “adviser” appointment than John Kennedy took for botching the Bay of Pigs. A normal president might wait for it to blow over. Trump instead did the blowing. Steve Hayes of the Weekly Standard, in his nomination for “Loser of the Week” on Fox News, named Trump as the week’s biggest loser. Trump decided to call for another “election,” this doozy of a rally!

The rally was scheduled to begin in late afternoon. Trump supporters began to arrive at 4 o’clock in the morning! The rally was held in a gigantic hanger in Melbourne, Florida. The hanger wasn’t gigantic enough. It held only 9,000 Trump enthusiasts. One Fox reporter said there were too many uncounted thousands standing outside for one whole mile down the road.

The “negativity” which I suggest motivated the rally disappeared like a cobweb under a blowtorch. Trump detailed what he had done and what he intended to do for jobs, for safety, for keeping Islamic radicals out of America. I don’t care how many thousands answered Trump’s rallying call, but he handled them all like a ladybug crawling across his palm.

Political correctness paralyzes most politicians. Remember how former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley “apologized” to the thug-elites of “Black Lives Matter” for his high crime of daring to say “All lives matter”?

Melania Trump opened the rally by reciting the Lord’s Prayer in English elevated to new heights of holiness by her Slovenian accent.

Trump over-trumped himself by pointing to a supporter in the crowd Trump had seen on television and demanding he come up and join him on stage. The Secret Service bosses probably had to take a pill and lie down, but the guy muscled his way up and he was great, and got three bursts of applause!

Love-him-or-loathe-him, Trump has shrunk rivals in dwindle-juice. The Clintons, Obama and both Bushes seemed soaked with dwindle-juice. The pit bulls and St. Bernards in America’s political kennel become Chihuahuas compared to President Donald Trump.

Can you imagine Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer scoring against Donald Trump with one of his insane insults?

Florida was the scene of the shrinking of not merely Trump’s enemies but virtually every other contender for political prominence. Those who didn’t get sufficiently dwindled by last week’s anti-media rout got shrunken by the unmistakably powerful pro-Trump display in Melbourne, Florida. Trump was supposed to lose Florida, remember? Now suppose a nomination or a piece of legislation Trump wants passed gets blocked by a senator who’s coming up for re-election. Would you want to confront a dwindle-derby like that Saturday’s targeting on your home turf?

I even enjoyed Trump’s naughty little foray into what I call “Louie Armstrong Foreign Policy.” During last week’s press conference with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Trump grandly said, “If the two parties (Israelis and Palestinians) prefer a two-state solution, that’s fine with me. I can live with that, as I can also live with a one-state solution. I’m for whatever the two parties want!”

That blast you heard was not the sound of the Jewish ram’s horn, the shofar! It was Louis “Satchmo” Armstrong’s horn!

In 1957, during the Cold War, a disarmament conference in Geneva couldn’t get started. There was too much controversy over whether or not Poland and Czechoslovakia should be allowed to sit. The Soviets insisted they sit. America insisted they not sit. An enterprising AP reporter noticed that Louis Armstrong was playing a concert in Geneva. He went backstage after the concert and said, “Satch, great concert! How do you feel on whether Poland and Czechoslovakia should sit at this disarmament conference?”

Louis put his trumpet down, mopped his head with that famous polka-dotted handkerchief and went into what looked like a long, thoughtful trance.

Finally he said, “Look, it’s like this. If they want to sit, and if we want them to sit, I say, ‘Let ’em sit!'”

http://www.wnd.com/2017/02/who-says-superman-isnt-real/#ORROZrutGYiqDvZi.99
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The payoff is money. Money selling arms, money selling medical supplies, money paid to individual corporations (& therefore individuals of the corp. so the revolving door paying money back to people in congress, which is why we all hate congress so much).
We have to take a serious look at corporate individuals, rich people & finances to individuals of our government. Too much to say, too much to describe without writing a novel. Short & sweet is better.

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Having recently read a post explaining false flags, and the reason behind them has cause me to wonder if perhaps 9/11 was an American false flag. For those who may not be familiar with the term, false flag, as I understand it, it is an atrocity created by one's own government to appear as having been perpetrated by another country. The purpose is to inflame and stamped the false flag government's people into demanding retaliation. If indeed 9/11 was a false flag to get America into the affairs of the middle east, what is the payoff? Was it merely centered around oil, or are other motives involved? Anyone care to weigh in on this?
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MISSING THE POINT AGAIN!
"Everything we say & do is a direct result of your own personal ethics."
Everyday I see those people in my mind from a time I would rather forget, but can't. People died in VietNam, the best our country had to offer bleeding-out on the ground of some godforsaken country. We called them "Hippies" protesting the war that was never a war rather the U.S. people were lied to again where VietNam was a Police Action.
People don't remember the Gulf of Tonkin. We were all told the North VC fired on our boats! Never happened, but the media bought it Hook-line-and-sinker! Prior to the Gulf of Tonkin U.S. society didn't want a war then after the Gulf incident almost everyone wanted war. I remember that also.
Secretary of Defense was named McNamarra. He wrote a book and in that book he stated he never told the President the Gulf of Tonkin never happened. YOUR government, made of people YOU elected were accomplices to murder, the deaths of over 58,000 and they all slept well at night. I don't!
Here you are again, U.S. society buying-in on what the government says. Here's the media, who we rely upon to verify every word from our government if it is true, buying in to everything our government had to say. All are accomplices to murder while the rich became richer selling military equipment.
Where is all the eyes on our troops in the middle east? Afghanistan? Do you really not care of our people, our military, bleeding-out on the ground of some godforsaken country? Where's your ethics?

Loki wrote:
Breaking news: FBI says no connection between Trump and the Russians.
http://conservativetribune.com/fbi-clears-trump/
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