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May 11, 2017 11:27:16   #
slatten49 wrote:
One could only imagine how many levels farther down in a scale of ignorance you must be...unfathomable.


You should know, being as ignorant as you are, pal. Stupid is, as stupid does.
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May 11, 2017 11:26:20   #
desparado wrote:
I think in the long your the dumb one blindly following a con man but that's a trump supporter never question the orange guy with the dead rat on his head .
so far he's hasn't produced one piece of legislation.
he watches 6 hours of tv a day and plays golf and appoints unqualified people to positions they should never have.
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/rod-rosenstein-threatened-resign-comey/2017/05/11/id/789471/?ns_mail_uid=62964047&ns_mail_job=1730337_05112017&s=al&dkt_nbr=myrqquck
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Hey, moron! Do you ever read your stupid third grade English level posts? Huh? Go back to school, you freakin' mental midget. Go bother some one else who gives a rat's rear what an idiot like you thinks. I sure don't. Good bye.
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May 11, 2017 11:18:25   #
slatten49 wrote:
Nice example of what pathetic is: "as stupid are are."

Really, when labeling someone else stupid, it is best not to show evidence of your own stupidity.


Piss off, moron. Go bother some one else who gives a rat's rear what you think. We already know how stupid you are when it comes to politics....dumber than a bag of hammers.
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May 11, 2017 11:12:33   #
desparado wrote:
funny how 3 people investigation trup russian ties get fired coincidence I( think not https://www.axios.com/who-trump-has-fired-2400578336.html


Have another bowl of stupid. Yawn.
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May 11, 2017 11:11:52   #
slatten49 wrote:
Go back to your sandbox, or whatever pre-pubescent activities you enjoy. You are only amusing to me for a limited while. For now, that time is up.


FU....you mental midget. Piss off. Get a life...better yet, get an education.
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May 11, 2017 11:10:51   #
desparado wrote:
funny why 3 people have been fired who were investigation trump russia ties
https://www.axios.com/who-trump-has-fired-2400578336.html
ad to that trump has hired a law firm to answer questions for him


Stupid is, as stupid does. Yawn.
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May 11, 2017 11:09:55   #
slatten49 wrote:
Apparently, just about anything above your limited intelligence and ability to comprehend appears stupid. Sad.


You have a lot of nerve talking about limited intelligence level and ability to comprehend, pal....as stupid are are. Pretty pathetic really.
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May 11, 2017 10:18:20   #
slatten49 wrote:
Recovery, in your case, is not likely to occur...too far gone into the abyss of dementia.


Yea, dementia is something you would know about, having a severe case of it yourself.
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May 11, 2017 10:16:38   #
slatten49 wrote:
Reality bites, doesn't it


Not really....moron. Just shows how gullible and brain washed you are.
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May 11, 2017 10:13:20   #
slatten49 wrote:
Typical defensive non-response from one who appears dead in the head and spends too much time (intellectually?) asleep at the wheel...thus, the constant yawning. Have a nice day, Rivers. There's still hope for you, yet


If that isn't the stupidest comment from you yet! LOL! Have another bowl of stupid. This comment, from a man that still does not have a clue what that exchange between Cruz and Yates was really about......amazingly stupid you are when it comes to politics.
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May 11, 2017 10:08:51   #
desparado wrote:
trump has already hired a law firm to represent him in this matter think he will take a plea deal or run to mother russia


The stupidity and insanity doesn't quit.....yawn. Get a life, moron.
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May 11, 2017 10:07:43   #
Before the election, Nancy Pelosi had hinted that Hillary would fire FBI Director James Comey.

"Maybe he's not in the right job," the House Dem leader had coyly suggested. "I think that we have to just get through this election and just see what the casualties are along the way."

The FBI Director was at risk of becoming a “casualty” over his handling of the Hillary investigation.

There was no outrage and no front page editorials at the New York Times and the Washington Post. No comparisons to Watergate or calls for an investigation. A top Dem suggesting that the FBI Director would have to leave because he was investigating another top Dem was just “good government.”

And there would have been none of the hypocritical media outcry if the election had gone another way and Comey were being told to pack his bags by President Hillary Clinton.

Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager had also hinted that Comey might have to step down because of his bias against Hillary. Now he claims that Trump’s firing of Comey “terrifies” him.

After Comey’s letter, Schumer had declared, “I do not have confidence in him any longer.” That is what top government officials say before demanding someone’s job. But now Schumer is outraged. "If we don't get a special prosecutor, every American will rightfully suspect that the decision to fire #Comey was part of a cover-up," he tweeted.

Were the Dem calls for Comey to resign also part of a cover-up?

Harry Reid had called on Comey to resign. Congressman Steve Cohen even wrote an op-ed titled, “For the Sake of the FBI, Comey Should Resign.” Now he touts Comey as a recipient for the Profiles in Courage award and accuses Trump of firing him because Comey “threatened his presidency.”

From Comey must go for investigating Hillary to Comey must get an award for investigating Trump. Did Cohen want Comey to resign then because he threatened Hillary Clinton’s presidency?

The incoherently official position of the Dems is that Comey should have been forced out for investigating Hillary. But that Trump shouldn’t be allowed to fire him because that’s a cover-up.

Democrats should be able to get rid of inconvenient FBI directors any time they please. And if Hillary had won, it wouldn’t have been the first time that President Clinton fired an FBI Director.

The last president to send an FBI Director packing was Bill Clinton. The firing of Director Sessions was widely supported by the media even though the early Clinton scandals had already bumped up against the FBI. Like Comey, the media had initially backed Sessions on the hope that he would hurt Bush. And indeed, on Sessions’ watch, the FBI had tried to entrap the head of President Bush’s Texas campaign.

Then Bill Clinton won and the FBI was up to its ears both doing the dirty work for Hillary in the travel office scandal and investigating the scandal. The Clintons had bypassed the Justice Department to get the FBI to target travel office employees and secure a position for their friends and relatives. They illegally obtained FBI files on their targets and on hundreds of Republicans under false pretenses.

The House Government Reform and Oversight Committee would later produce a report accusing the White House of politicizing the FBI. The FBI had been investigating its own contacts with the White House. The same month that Clinton fired Sessions, the White House released a report on the propriety of its own actions. It was against this corrupt background that the FBI Director was fired.

Director Sessions was fired on July 19, 1993. On the next day, Deputy White House Counsel Vince Foster was found dead in a Washington D.C. park. A note found in his briefcase included the phrase, "The FBI lied in their report to the AG."

The FBI was quickly brought in on the investigation. Foster had been closely involved in the scandal. Vince Foster's death and Bill Clinton's nomination of Freeh as the new FBI Director had to compete for space on the front page of the Washington Post. Floyd Clarke, the acting director whom Sessions had blamed for” pushing him out, briefed Freeh on Foster’s death.

But the media found no problem with President Clinton firing the FBI Director. It took his justification for the firing at face value, but it insists on ascribing dark motives to Trump.

"Mr. Comey’s breathtakingly rash and irresponsible decision," the New York Times had breathlessly editorialized during the campaign, "had undermine(d) the American people’s trust in the nation’s top law enforcement agencies.” Now it has a splashy front page linking Comey’s firing to Watergate.

“Many hear echoes of Watergate,” the Times editorializes. “The immediate echo: ‘Saturday Night Massacre,” the Washington Post echoes on its own front page.

Can you hear the echo? It’s the echo of a media echo chamber repeating its lies to itself.

The Post had gone from headlines like "Comey misstated key Clinton email evidence at hearing" and "James Comey just stepped in it, big time" to "Firing FBI director Comey is already backfiring" and "If Trump fired Comey over Russia, he must go". As in 1984, we have always been at war with Eastasia.

"This man's position at the FBI is no longer tenable #FireComey," Keith Olbermann had declared last year. Now he's demanding President Trump's impeachment for firing Comey.

Dana Milbank, the Post’s answer to Keith Olbermann, screeched earlier that Comey had “single-handedly caused Donald Trump to win the presidency.” Now he’s ranting, “Trump like Nixon will fall.” Before the Comey letter, he was insisting, “Republican attacks on Comey undermine the rule of law”.

Attacking Comey undermines the rule of law. Unless the FBI is investigating Hillary and then undermining the rule of law is a wonderful thing. And we should all attack Comey.

The media’s response to Comey radically changed based on whether he was investigating Hillary or Trump. And any official who attempts to navigate these tricky currents will face the same whiplash.

Milbank is already ranting that Rod “Rosenstein, who had a sterling reputation when he was confirmed two weeks ago, instantly turned himself into a Trump stooge.” Last year, he wrote the same thing about Comey. “At the start of 2016, the FBI director enjoyed a reputation as a public servant of high integrity.”

"What a year it has been for James Comey!" Milbank began that screed. And it has been quite a year. First he’s the last best hope for stopping Trump. Then, in Milbank’s words, he became a “Trump elector” and “protector”. And now he’s a hero again. Unless he says something else negative about Hillary.

If Comey was Trump’s elector and protector, why did he fire him?

Either Comey is a corrupt tool of Trump. Or he’s a heroic public servant. Either he was Trump’s protector or a threat to him. But he can’t be both.

Either the media left was lying about Comey then. Or it’s lying about him now.

And here’s a third option. Maybe the media is just lying all the time. It lied that Comey elected Trump. It’s lying now when it claims that Trump fired Comey over Russia.

The truth is that Comey was bad at his job. He was bad at it under Obama and under Trump. But most of the time nobody outside the FBI and the DOJ pays much attention to the FBI Director.

Then when the Hillary scandals hit, everyone began paying attention to Comey. And he didn’t handle it well. The FBI Director has to be able to navigate a politicized environment and still do his job. Comey tried and failed. He wasn’t the partisan hack Hillary’s people accused him of being before they belatedly decided he was a hero. But neither was he the lawman who would do the right thing no matter what.

James Comey wasn’t partisan, but he was political. He wasn’t out to serve either party. He just wanted to keep his job and his self-respect. And his flailing efforts to keep everyone happy only lost him both.

There is no one of either party who believes that Comey was doing a good job. There was bipartisan support for removing him. The “Resistance” Dems are just exploiting Comey’s firing to attack Trump.

Just as they exploit anything and everything, including the sun rising in the morning, to attack Trump.

In a matter of hours, Comey went from being lambasted for his testimony about Hillary’s abuse of classified emails to the hero at the center of next Watergate. It’s not about him. It’s about the left’s hatred for President Trump. The leftists, who went from hating to loving Comey with the same speed as the citizens of Orwell’s Oceania, are obsessed with undoing the results of a democratic election.

And that is the real conspiracy and cover-up that has caused a Constitutional crisis.

By Daniel Greenfield
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May 11, 2017 10:02:40   #
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
You have hit on something there.


???????????????????????????????????????? Yea, stupidity.
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May 11, 2017 10:01:56   #
slatten49 wrote:
Matt Bai

Yahoo News, May 11, 2017

I was 6 years old when Richard Nixon resigned the presidency on a sweltering August day. One of my earliest memories is of sitting in the back of my mother’s Volkswagen Bug, listening to her and my grandmother discuss Nixon’s almost certain impeachment.

What I mostly remember of that time, though, and I stipulate that this may come as much from the books I read later as it did from my own foggy experience, is an overwhelming sense of relief. Technically, Nixon’s crime had to do with plotting against his enemies and lying about it. But his unforgivable transgression lay in squandering the emotional energy of a country, dragging the electorate through an exhausting ordeal that seemed, increasingly, to be about nothing but his own survival.

This is why the most resonant line from that period came not from Nixon or his accusers, but from the man who mercifully pardoned him. “Our long national nightmare is over,” Gerald Ford said, eliciting a national sigh.

In effect, he was giving grateful Americans permission to finally leave politics in the 6 o’clock news, where it belonged, and go back to their bowling nights and disaster movies.

I’m reminded of this now not because I think there’s some perfect parallel between Donald Trump’s firing of the FBI director and Nixon’s savaging of his own Justice Department (which, by the way, I recounted in this January column, before Trump started firing everyone who was investigating him). We’re a long way from impeachment proceedings, and Trump’s latest move strikes me more as the imperious instinct of a tycoon than as the desperate lunge of a guilty man.

No, I go back to 1974 because, more and more, it seems to me that Trump is headed down the same broad path as Nixon, whether it ends in evidence of wrongdoing or merely in political paralysis. His undoing probably won’t be abuse of power or a cover-up, but rather our own inevitable, creeping fatigue.

In a sense, it was this same kind of national weariness that helped propel Trump to where he is in the first place. What so many voters didn’t like about the prospect of another Clinton presidency, aside from the whiny self-absorption of the candidate and her surrounding cast, was the near certainty of more never-ending drama.

After all the years of Whitewater and Ken Starr and a longer list of “gates” than you could find at O’Hare, even Democrats had little enthusiasm, understandably, for a Clinton spinoff.

This was the main effect of James Comey’s intervention during the fall campaign. It reminded everybody that this cyclical business about the email server — self-righteous allegations, breathless coverage, clueless non-denials and insincere apologies — would just never go away.

You can understand why a lot of Americans decided it was better to sit through a movie they hadn’t seen before, even if the reviews were dreadful and their expectations low, than to see the plodding, predictable show that would just go on and on until you decided to suffocate yourself in the popcorn bucket.

But if what we wanted was less of the unrelenting drama, then Trump Tower was pretty much the worst place we could have looked. It’s not just that Trump’s constantly bumbling into ethical dilemmas, or lashing out at critics and ratings competitors, or tweeting yet again about an election that’s now six months behind us.

It’s not simply that this whole fiasco involving Russian hackers and Trump campaign aides has already spawned multiple investigations and isn’t going away anytime soon, especially since Trump seems bent on sidelining anyone who gets a foothold into the evidence.

It’s that Trump can’t stand to simply exist for five minutes. His need is overpowering, his insecurity limitless.

Do I think Trump fired Comey because he hadn’t managed to create some all-consuming controversy in a week? No. Clearly Comey wasn’t hearing the order to stand down, and Trump isn’t used to being challenged by people he employs.

But do I think he pulled the trigger when he did because he wasn’t dominating the narrative? Yes. If Trump isn’t holding an audience, dread envelops him.

Trump became president — in large part, I think — because his staff shoved him into a closet for the last few weeks of the campaign, forcing voters to focus more on his opponent than on whatever insane impulse floated into his sleepless brain. But that’s over. No one keeps a lid on Trump now.

For the first few months, this constant provocation was simply disorienting, like getting hit by a flying brick every morning. For the past few months, it’s been sort of engrossing, in the same way that “24” kept you wondering which of the odious bureaucrats was about to be unmasked as a spy.

But “24” had its run, and so will Trump. You can resuscitate the lifeless hero only so many times before people tune out.

Americans really do want a radical reordering of the political system. But after a time, we appreciate normalcy, too. As Ohio’s governor, John Kasich, put it when I talked to him last week (echoing a line President Obama used to use): “At some point, the fever will break.”

Jimmy Carter surfed into Washington on a tsunami of popular revolt. But after a few years of gas shortages and nuclear crises and satellites falling from the skies, voters were more than ready for a little stability. It felt too much like a mirror image of the Nixon years — an unceasing cascade of headlines and controversies, one on top of the other, crowding out the space for everyday life.

The society is different now, of course. The partisan tribes who live on the plains of social media will beat their drums daily until the herds disappear. Bored and angry at the world, they crave the constant hum of existentialism.

But that’s not where the vast majority of Americans live. They want change, but not chaos exploding daily all around them. They’ll take a strong, entertaining personality, all right, but not if it means that politics has to become the subtext for every conversation at family dinners and Little League games.

I once heard a criminologist suggest that, in a way, methamphetamine was a less harmful drug than heroin. That’s because a person can exist on heroin for a long time, just sort of lolling around, but meth brings you to the bottom in a hurry. The addiction is shorter, the collapse and recovery unavoidable.

Maybe that’s where we are with Trump. Maybe he’s our political meth. The egomania, the rashness, the multi-front war on everyone in his way and some who aren’t — this is not sustainable in a country that cares about other things.

So if you believe, as I do, that Trump is unlikely to govern well in any event, you should be glad to see him fire Comey. You should hope he digs in, antagonizes Congress and law enforcement, tries to shut down the media, or whatever other kind of crazy compels him.

Because the more he flails at enemies and flexes the muscle of his office, the more Americans will seek shelter from the raining blows. And the further his approval ratings drop, the further members of his own party will run in the other direction, leaving Trump isolated and diminished.

And the sooner, perhaps, this particular nightmare will abate.
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More ignorant leftist bullshit......yawn.
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May 11, 2017 09:51:51   #
slatten49 wrote:
Rivers, I have followed you for some time now on the forum. While waiting for some scintilla of decency, integrity or understanding in even the simplest of political discussions with anyone who doesn't echo your thoughts, all I have read from you...beyond an occasional cut'n paste screening of highly partisan viewpoints matching yours...are hateful and disgusting exhibits of uncontrolled rage at those with opposing views. I know you are only one (of many) making such disgusting or laughable spectacles of yourselves. But, they can simply follow similar steps to cure their rude and crude behaviors. Now, calm down, take a breath and try to control yourself.

I want you and others (from all sides) to take note of these following two words with brief explanations of their meanings, and take them to heart in recognizing them as probable symptoms of socio-pathic induced tendencies.. I feel certain you are capable of becoming a reasonable, rationale person with an ability for respectfully composed and tempered arguments without spewing the venomous, vitriolic dark-side regularly seen in your posts. It may take an exorcising of these two components that constitute your illness:

1) 'Incorrigibility' is a property of a philosophical proposition which implies that it is necessarily true simply by virtue of being believed.
2) 'Intransigence' is a steadfast adherence to an opinion, purpose, or course of action in spite of reason, arguments or persuasion.

Here's wishing you success on your road to recovery.
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Blah....blah.....blah....typical leftist bullshit.....yawn......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz You're sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo full of shit........yawn. Get a life, moron.
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