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May 1, 2015 08:07:59   #
hprinze wrote:
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The question has been resolved by the Supreme court. Supteme court decisions, definitions, and rulings CANNOT be changed except by constitutional amendment.

The facts are denied by the Obamabots who insist Obama is eligible and by the Rubio and Cruz supporters who insist their choices are eligible.

I believe it is time to face the facts and stop the wishful thinking. Time to get behind good eligible candidates like Scott Walker and Rand Paul to try to regain the presidency.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oIW5lPsfZM
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hprinze,

I could easily support Scott Walker or Rand Paul. I still disagree that Rubio and Cruz are not elligible, I don't agree that the supreme court decision unquestionably applies to those particular gentlemen. Whether you and I agree probably doesn't matter that much, it is pretty much a sure thing that a specific legal ruling will come (or not, like in Obama's case). We will see.

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May 1, 2015 07:19:45   #
hprinze wrote:
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I have not interpreted the Constitution's requirement for the president to be a natural born citizen.

I have merely repeated the interpretation of the Supreme Court of the U.S.

The Supreme Court's interpretation trumps the interpretation of the "very authoritative scholars" you refer to.


hprinze,

I won't argue with you, the question still needs to be resolved on an individual basis. We will see won't we?

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Apr 30, 2015 07:22:16   #
1OfDem wrote:
There wouldn't be a valid reason to do so.


1OfDem,

Even when his book said (admitted) he was born in Kenya?
And a phony (electronically generated) birth certificate?

That says a lot about you.

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Apr 30, 2015 07:18:24   #
hprinze wrote:
I sent the below message to both Cruz and Rubuo three weeks ago, of course with the names and locales correct. I have not received a reply from either except for an automated acknowledgement that the message was received



THE MESSAGE:
"I have supported you since you first entered politics in Florida.

I find it difficult to believe that you are unaware of the fact that you are not a natural born citizen of the USA, and are therefore not eligible for the office of president.

I believe that you could well serve the nation in any number of high level cabinet or advisory posts in DC. Or by continuing as a senator .

If you continue to try to gain the republican nomination for president while knowing you are ineligible, I will lose my respect for you.

I am sending this same message to Senator Cruz, and I hope both of you will reply.
Thank you"
I sent the below message to both Cruz and Rubuo th... (show quote)


hprinze,

I can understand why they haven't bothered to answer. Your interpretation of whether they are eligible is at odds with some very authoritative scholars.

Maybe you expected them to send you information that might correct your interpretation. I suggest you do your own research and quit bothering a couple of busy persons who have better things to do than spoon feed you.

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Apr 30, 2015 07:11:27   #
Redd wrote:
Oh really ???

Awfully odd that there aren't any major news source saying this....


Redd,

Not saying it is true, just possible. Maybe you haven't noticed that "Major news" are not saying anything yet (except blaming the veterans) about the "facts" in this case. Most "main stream" news sources would not want to print anything like this until they have to; it might mitigate the usefulness of the racial bias claims too soon. (A good crisis may be wasted).

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Apr 28, 2015 06:54:28   #
SeniorVerdad wrote:
Next step will be a huge catastrophe(like the abandonment of the dollar) which could cause widespread panic and the need for marshall law(which is what some folks want anyway) to keep order. Orwell just had is date off a bit, not the scenario.


SeniorVerdad,

There are people at the top, and on the international scene, who are working hard to cause exactly what you say above. We need to do what we can to resist this.

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Apr 28, 2015 06:46:29   #
jack sequim wa wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't the government earn it's income selling land?? (Which would now be the state's , disolve the BLM. Did not the churches take care of the truly needy?
In a nuclear world, and nasa, noaa, taxes are required, yet if taxed for what is required, I believe the flat tax on goods and service's would be less than a percent.
Another problem is the world learned really fast that a fiat system buys power and then there is that international trade thing, and businesses abroad, with America no longer producing much of anything. I'm fairly certain that what you speak of would collapse the world economy, even though I agree with you in principle. I believe we are on course for what has been prophesied in the good book. However...by some miracle the morale and social direction return to our nation, God would once again bless us. Unfortunately the heart of man wants evil, just look at the two time obama voter's, and the now hillary supporters.
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jack sequim,

Seems you and I are pretty much on the same page, I don't disagree with anything you said, most I strongly support.

My only comment would be in response to your statement: "I'm fairly certain that what you speak of would collapse the world economy". That may be true...but our choices are that we either need to try to get back on track or the world economy is in for a collapse anyway if we continue what we are doing. (I'm not ready to surrender yet - I don't think you are either.)

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Apr 27, 2015 07:22:14   #
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Anthony,
Once again, I print this information straight off the Federal Reserve's own GOVERNMENT website:
http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/about_14986.htm

Current FAQs
Who owns the Federal Reserve?
"The Federal Reserve System fulfills its public mission as an independent entity within government. IT IS NOT "OWNED" BY ANYONE AND IS NOT A PROVATE, PROFIT MAKING INSTITUTION.

As the nation's central bank, the Federal Reserve derives its authority from the Congress of the United States. It is considered an independent central bank because its monetary policy decisions do not have to be approved by the President or anyone else in the executive or legislative branches of government, it does not receive funding appropriated by the Congress, and the terms of the members of the Board of Governors span multiple presidential and congressional terms.

However, the Federal Reserve is subject to oversight by the Congress, which often reviews the Federal Reserve's activities and can alter its responsibilities by statute. Therefore, the Federal Reserve can be more accurately described as "independent within the government" rather than "independent of government."

The 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks, which were established by the Congress as the operating arms of the nation's central banking system, are organized similarly to private corporations--possibly leading to some confusion about "ownership." For example, the Reserve Banks issue shares of stock to member banks. However, owning Reserve Bank stock is quite different from owning stock in a private company. The Reserve Banks are not operated for profit, and ownership of a certain amount of stock is, by law, a condition of membership in the System. The stock may not be sold, traded, or pledged as security for a loan; dividends are, by law, 6 percent per year.

Related Information

The Federal Reserve System: Purposes and Functions

Related Questions

What is the purpose of the Federal Reserve System?
What does it mean that the Federal Reserve is "independent within the government"?
Does the Federal Reserve ever get audited?
Is the Federal Reserve accountable to anyone?
How is the Federal Reserve System structured"


Concentrate. Release those labor union pieces of propaganda that you have been fed your entire life.

Concentrate. Free yourself from hatred of people who make an honest living and succeed
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Concentrate. Imagine a time when America will restore free market capitalism and rid us of the NATIONAL Bank that is starving us out of the fruits of our labor.

Take a deep breath. There is hope. The Senate will pass Rand Paul's "Audit the Fed" bill.
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CounterRevolutionary,

The Fed is the mechanism invented by Politicians long ago to allow the Federal government to spend money they don't have in order to buy votes by simply obligating taxpayers to more debt. The real problem is the United States cannot afford all the freebies with which it buys votes; we desperately need to get back to "buying" only what we can afford as a government. Think we ,as a nation, can afford Obamacare? Think we can afford to pay half the able bodied workers to not work? Think we are on the right track when more than half the nation is on food assistance? Free cell phones anyone? Govt paid plane trips to the US for illegal immigrant's families??

If we can just get back to a real free enterprise capitalistic system (as opposed to Crony capitalism with goodies for everyone) we can have the full employment where everyone is better off because of the increased production of goods and services.

First of all we need to get rid of the IRS as it is now constituted and go to a consumer tax (FAIR or National sales) and peg the percentage at whatever level we need in order to afford the "benefits" for the truly needy we think we can afford and to run the government without borrowing from the Fed. At least then we will know exactly how much we are being totally taxed.

Social Security was once a viable system, one that was sustained by the people who were to benefit from it. It should go back to that with the payroll deductions going into a trust used only for that purpose. Medicare the same. Then the payroll deductions and the benefits can be adjusted as needed to provide only what we can afford, no need for the Fed.

Our real problem is we are allowing the Federal government to use the Fed mechanism to continually run deficits routinely. The deficit is used by the politicians to stay in power and enrich themselves at the expense of the nations citizens. Ever wonder what amount of debt will ultimately be too much? and what happens then? The world is just now beginning to catch on and the "adjustments" will likely be painful.

We need to reform the Federal Government operations/spending, that would take care of the Fed problem.

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Apr 25, 2015 07:39:32   #
CDM wrote:
Thanks Old...Nothing special though. Just foundational American thinking as opposed to emotional leftist insecurity and dogma...They are a mindless mob and we should treat them as such...without sympathy, chivalry or mercy.

You should also carefully read the input here from CounterRevolutionary. He has a much greater understanding of leftists than I and articulates it well. He particularly establishes, with wonderful clarity, why the anti-American anti-capitalist left is delusional.

There are millions of us out here; sick and tired of these leftist wimps and their hate America crap. And we have the opportunity to pull the wind out of the sails in the next two years.

If sensible, thinking, concerned Americans (by definition this eliminates leftists) are now finally awake...we will prevail.

God Bless America (except socialist communists)...Hey, that just me. :wink:
Thanks Old...Nothing special though. Just foundat... (show quote)


CDM,

:thumbup:

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Apr 24, 2015 08:37:39   #
She Wolf wrote:
I continue to read about American and European young people joining ISIS. I can't understand why. These young people enjoy a freedom unknown in Islamic countries esp. the young ladies.

Perhaps, it is the loss of hope they feel in their countries. I would like someone to explain why they would feel rule by any religion is a good idea. I find it very confusing.

If we could understand the motivation behind this movement, we would be in a better position to fight it.


She Wolf,

One thing we know is they are not practicing Christians. I suspect, as you probably do too, that they feel a need to "belong" to a group, similar to the attraction that gangs have for unsupervised single parent young adults.

I don't intend to push religion as an answer but only as a thought for consideration of its effects. Devout believers have a moral compass (code for living) and best of all belong to something. America, as a nation, has been moving away from being a "Christian nation" now for many years (On purpose in order to install socialism?).

If you doubt the power of religion; what else is powerful enough to convince a parent that they should strap a bomb on their (Muslim) child and send him to the market place to take some "infidels" life?

It surely is important to understand the reasons for the alienation of some of our young people, but the joining of ISIS is a SECONDARY problem to the real issue. The most important understanding we need is the seriousness of the Radical Muslim world effort now going on in the WORLD, and acknowledgement of it's purpose and reach. It is historical "world conquest" repeating itself. Mankind's ever present "forces of darkness" (human nature) is once again at play in the world. We need to recognize that, the sooner the better.

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Apr 24, 2015 07:44:52   #
Nickolai wrote:
Media Matters For America was founded by David Brock. Brock is the man who made up all the garbage about Bill Clinton in the early 1990's when he worked for the New Republic magazine, a right wing wragg. He made up the story that Clinton as the head of a cocaine cartel and had 100 people killed because they knew too much. That Arkansas state troopers hulled Clinton around in the back of their cruisers picking up hookers and other outreagious claims In the late 1990' he apologised to Clinton and a couple years later wrote a book " Blinded By The Right" Then he founded Media Matters By For America " Which informs people of what's going on in the world of the reactionary right. And there is a mountain of miss information that oozzes out of Faux Snooze and Brock is a reformed right winger and so am I
I'm embarrassed to admit that I was registered Republican for 39 years and was loyal to that tribe for 30 years I was also blinded by the right for far too long, The right has been winning the battle for this nation for 40 years and we need outfits like Media Matters to keep us informed of how we are getting our asses kicked and what we need to do to fight back. George Soros is a good and decent man
Media Matters For America was founded by David Bro... (show quote)


Nickolai,

Right on que, attack the messenger when you can't attack the message. Good job !!!! It is very hard for me to believe you were ever Republican (conservative). (What happened man, fall on your head?)

"George Soros is a good and decent man" who is spending his billions in an attempt to transform the United States into a Socialist country so it's free citizens will/can no longer oppose his international efforts for a world government. I can see why YOU would think he is good and decent.

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Apr 24, 2015 07:26:07   #
CDM wrote:
Thank you sir for intelligent, reasoned discourse on the subject.

For my entire life, from childhood I, like millions, have never been able to reconcile the communist logic regarding the purpose and function of the product of someone else's risk and effort belonging to the the collective, with that of honest Americans...But with time and life experience I have come to understand why it happens...and to despise it more than anything else I know.

You have stated clearly the most fundamental rule of capitalism, open, free unfettered competition. In that environment we are free to NOT support any business that does not satisfy our own, personal criteria and requirements. That means not buying their product, telling others why we don't buy their product and of course...not working for them if we so choose. We freely vote with our pocket book, our feet and our labor...like nowhere else on earth.

The first communist to significantly affect our future from the Oval Office, to firmly establish the communist agenda in America said; “Reliance on enlightened administration (bureaucracy), not enhanced private productivity, will redistribute our stagnant resources.” This was the introduction of what today has become the mantra of the leftist...'leveling the playing field'; the redistribution of wealth and the strangulation of the American free market system.

The pure evil hypocrisy of this is gargantuan. While hollering at the top of their lungs about leveling the playing field for the common man...they have worked diligently for more than a century to DESTROY the greatest leveler of playing fields known to mankind...the American capitalist free market system. And why?

Because they discovered that the same system that provides for freedom and growth provides a path to squeezing it for inequitable compensation. To be rewarded disproportionally to ones ability to contribute back to the system; eating more than one brings to the table. All protected by a constitution and a power hungry political class.

And hence the Democrat Party took form and substance. If one looks carefully one will see that this party has enjoyed majority position for 68 of the past 84 years. Any questions?

People who do not know their own limitations, their own abilities are horribly flawed, easily led and extremely dangerous . They will guard violently the free lunch that has been promised and indeed delivered by their leaders knowing full well it is akin to dragging the knife across their own throats. And so;

I do not laugh at the thought of Hilary Clinton occupying the Oval Office. That she can and will complete the task of transition of American capitalism to the Milk Cow of the left. Barack Obama has pissed all over our constitution and Hilary need do nothing more than squat to continue the tradition, so to speak. I can't credit her for her victory though. She is nothing more than another Democrat. And Democrats don't vote for people they vote for Democrats; any one will do...

No, one must question the people who would grant this destructive power...those who willingly and knowingly vote for it...they speak to the character of a Nation.

God bless Walmart, McDonalds and America...for as long as they exist anyway.
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CDM,

Thank you, you are appreciated, people like you give me hope for the freedom of my grandchildren. :thumbup:

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Apr 23, 2015 07:51:20   #
CDM wrote:
J...we should all be very accustomed to this theme by now. What conservatives never have and never will understand is "you didn't build that, somebody else made that happen"...Translation;

If your too stupid or too lazy to better your own lot in life, to take responsability for yourself or if your just a parasitic predator like most union hacks don't worry, we will take care of you...We will set them straight on who owns that f**king business...That's what unions are for...That's what minimum wage is for...And if they don't fall in line we will destroy them; yah...they won't have a business when were through with them...They can take their millions of jobs and shove them right up their capitalist asses...yah!

To force all businesses to be 'decent American businesses'...that is the goal...of course...

See how easy it is? :-D
J...we should all be very accustomed to this theme... (show quote)


CDM,

Just had to chime in...There are some very good discussions in these posts regarding the purpose and behavior of businesses, yours being among them.

And a few comments that demonstrate the misunderstanding by liberals of what is required of businesses and what can be reasonably expected of businesses if they expect to survive.

Perhaps businesses should act "morally" (legally is a better word).. but you cannot legislate morality, nor should you try. The answer is, if you don't like what a business offers, in moral behavior, price, service, or quality...then shop somewhere else! That is your powerful tool to affect behavior; if you are right many others will join you and the business will respond or go out of business.

Feels good to see so much understanding about a free enterprise business system.

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Apr 20, 2015 08:06:09   #
PaulPisces wrote:
Pretty wise words concealed in humor.


PaulPisces,

Great ! :thumbup: :thumbup: :lol: :lol:
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Apr 20, 2015 08:01:22   #
PaulPisces wrote:
Anything Walmart does is for one reason and one reason only: to improve their bottom line and enrich their shareholders. Any other reason is just a diversion/public relations story.


PaulPisces,

"Improve their bottom line and enrich their shareholders" is what all company CEO's are paid to do and would be fired if they didn't. (Shareholders are people too, by the way, not all are rich fat cats you seem to hate so much...Walmart employees are shareholders too)

Typical liberal thinking demonizes the legitimate (and necessary) decisions to make a profit (needed in order to stay in business.) And I'm sure you KNOW that no Walmart CEO has any concern for their employees? Is it because all business owners are greedy, cruel individuals... (according to you) and should not try to make any dirty profit.

Your comment is a typical manifestation of the deliberate Obama program to promote "hate businesses/love government" for political benefit, and warped thinking for those who fall for it.

Businesses should be free to do any legal act they choose without interference from the Federal government. In a competitive market the customers have the power over the businesses by what they choose to do and free enterprise businesses should live or die by what the customers CHOOSE. That is the only way the power remains in your and my hands. (Shop Costco, Target, etc..)

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