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Nov 3, 2023 14:35:02   #
microphor wrote:
So everything's a lie except your propaganda? You can't be reasoned with, your already gone. Goodbye.


Israel: Creating enemies faster than they can kill them for 75 years.

https://t.me/VanessaBeeley/19879

https://t.me/VanessaBeeley/19864


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Nov 3, 2023 12:47:00   #
Jonathan Cook Asks If Israel Killed Its Own Soldiers and Civilians on October 7

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2023/11/03/jonathan-cook-asks-if-israel-killed-its-own-soldiers-and-civilians-on-october-7/


When Did Genocide Become Self-defense?

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2023/11/03/when-did-genocide-become-self-defense/
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Nov 3, 2023 12:22:03   #
Cornflakes wrote:
Well then by your own admission, If 9/11 was perpetrated by Jews with help from non-Jews it was then co-op by various agents of destruction and therefore an international plot/ why don’t you try selling the script to someone in Holly/Bally wood or try for the book rights..ohh that’s right you stole this crap from someone’s book and as the storyline stands, too crazy unbelievable even for low budget videos; one suggestion try to spice it up for a snuff film🤠


https://archive.org/details/PEARLHARBOURFULL

Five hours of details. I was on the edge of my seat--learning things I had not known about.

This may be the most compresensive treatment of the 911 details yet produced.

Massimo Mazzucco rocks!

In contrast, the change agents (deceivers) here have the following track record of posting:

Quote:
What crimes has he committed? Why do you lie about those who don’t share your opinions?


microphor wrote:


Blade_Runner wrote:
You have the attention span of a freshly hatched chicken.
Since you were too stupid to figure it out, I simply translated microphor's goodbye to you.

Neither one of us are leaving the forum.


Blade_Runner wrote:
OK, your paranoia is showing,
translation is "kiss my ass, I'm outa here."


Blade_Runner wrote:
You certainly are a master in telling them.
You should get a Nobel Prize.
Apply with Guinness for a world record.
Maybe even take your show to Hollyweird and go for an Oscar.


microphor wrote:
He can kiss a lot of ass


microphor wrote:
Blah, blah, blah, blah. What partof "Goodbye" don't you understand!


Blade_Runner wrote:

As for the neo-Nazi Whole2th, he can kiss my ass.


Cornflakes wrote:
Well then by your own admission, If 9/11 was perpetrated by Jews with help from non-Jews it was then co-op by various agents of destruction and therefore an international plot/ why don’t you try selling the script to someone in Holly/Bally wood or try for the book rights..ohh that’s right you stole this crap from someone’s book and as the storyline stands, too crazy unbelievable even for low budget videos; one suggestion try to spice it up for a snuff film🤠
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Nov 3, 2023 09:59:45   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
When those jets hit, the twin towers literally got their bells rung. Big time. The shock wave rang down through the entire support structures causing considerable damage all the way to sub-levels. Marble tiles on the walls of the ground level and skylobbies were knocked off the walls, elevator openings and office doors in floors far below the impact zone were twisted or jammed. The fuel explosion blasted down elevator shafts, blowing out the huge plate glass windows in the ground floor lobbies, and starting some small fires. Some people in elevators were burned to death, elevator cables were severed, sending the cars into freefall down the shafts. Those in them were saved by the auto-braking system.
When those jets hit, the twin towers literally got... (show quote)


Yes, as predicted by World Wrestlers teams in a promo ad for their match in 1989: The Twin Towers vs. World Megapowers: https://youtu.be/QLkeUmgY1cc


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Nov 3, 2023 00:05:28   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
You have the attention span of a freshly hatched chicken.
Since you were too stupid to figure it out, I simply translated microphor's goodbye to you.

Neither one of us are leaving the forum.


Well then, we're still here and you're still pissing everywhere while ignoring and covering up the crimes of you and your own.

So, it's back to the usual business.

So much to discuss.

https://youtu.be/YV_HsiJg8Io

What say YE (TM) uncompromising 'Borg'? 'propaganda', right?
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Nov 2, 2023 23:58:05   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
OK, your paranoia is showing,
translation is "kiss my ass, I'm outa here."


Well then:

sayonara /sī″ə-när′ə/
interjection
Used to express farewell.
Goodbye, adieu.
noun

Promise?

Are you giving us two week's notice or something?

Do you have a time (days, weeks, years) at which you will cease your "pissing posts"?
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Nov 2, 2023 23:41:41   #
microphor wrote:
Blah, blah, blah, blah. What partof "Goodbye" don't you understand!


Did I miss something when I interpreted this from you? I surmised it meant you were out of the conversation ... that you were leaving the conversation, yet now there's this asking me about 'what partof "Goodbye" don't you understand!" Would the absence of further microphor posting in this thread diminish the value of future exchanges here?

The trend of drivel he posts would seem a negative for what we can achieve through open discourse.

If microphor intended his "Goodbye" as a command for me to leave, that is also worth some comment(s).

microphor wrote:
So everything's a lie except your propaganda? You can't be reasoned with, your already gone. Goodbye.
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Nov 2, 2023 23:09:53   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
When those jets hit, the twin towers literally got their bells rung. Big time. The shock wave rang down through the entire support structures causing considerable damage all the way to sub-levels. Marble tiles on the walls of the ground level and skylobbies were knocked off the walls, elevator openings and office doors in floors far below the impact zone were twisted or jammed. The fuel explosion blasted down elevator shafts, blowing out the huge plate glass windows in the ground floor lobbies, and starting some small fires. Some people in elevators were burned to death, elevator cables were severed, sending the cars into freefall down the shafts. Those in them were saved by the auto-braking system.

A female PAPD officer on the fifth sub-level rescued several people from a partially open elevator that was on fire.

When firefighters entered the lobby of the North Tower, their videographer refused to film the people there on fire.

One guy in his office on the 40th floor of the South Tower said that, although he had no clue what had happened, he felt the building violently twist or torque left and, sitting in his office chair, was slammed hard against the wall. He got the hell out there tout suite.

North Tower damage assessment:

The impact force of a 130 ton jet flying at or near 500 mph, calculated in Joules or Newtons, is equivalent to the detonation of .75 tons of TNT. Helluva blast.

The B-767 struck the North Tower almost dead center, easily penetrating the perimeter wall and 70 feet of floor space before smashing broadside into the core structure. The heaviest parts of the jet, the fuselage and engines penetrated the core, and the heaviest section of the fuselage exited the south face.

There is no question the damage to the support structure was severe. Support columns were severed, bent, twisted, buckled, or otherwise compromised, and critically, the damage was sufficient to trap 900 to 1000 people with no survivable means of escape.

9/11 truthers try to tell us the fires were insignificant, or relatively benign.
FDNY has a decidedly different opinion, as did over 200 people who chose the non-survivable means to escape the smoke, heat and flames.

Truthers say, "Jet fuel cannot melt steel."
No shit, Sherlock, jet fuel burns at 1400F, steel melts at 2400F. At 600F, steel begins to weaken, at 1200F, steel loses 50% of its strength. Temperatures in the twin tower spaces reached 1800F, same temp that sets conditions for a flash over. Been there, done that.

Firefighters use the term "Fuel Load" which is a calculation of the volume of combustibles in a closed or compartmentalized space - like an office. The offices in the towers were loaded with combustibles - paper, cardboard, wood, plastic (tons of it), rubber, fabric, oils and grease, alcohol, propane, butane, booze, you name it.

Those unfortunate people trapped in the North Tower made or received over 3000 phone calls. They called 911, family, friends, associates, and received calls from same. As horrifying as their circumstance were, one guy's phone calls to his wife, friend and to 911 are telling.

Called his wife first, no one home, called a friend, got in touch, traded calls with him. Then he called the 911 dispatcher. Told her he and a woman colleague were trapped in their office, debris had crashed down against the office doors and they were unable to get out. He said they were okay, they would sit tight and wait for rescue, but to please hurry. Then he called an NY CBS affiliate with an appeal, the TV anchor put him on the air.

This fella told whoever was watching CBS that he and his colleague were trapped in their office and there was no freaking way out. Floors had collapsed around them bringing smoke, dust and debris, steel and concrete rubble blocked the doors, and part of the core was missing.

Did you get that? PART OF THE CORE WAS MISSING, and his office was on the 86th floor, 9 floors BELOW the center of the jet impact zone and 7 floors BELOW the lowest floor hit.

OK, now I'm gonna speculate, but rather than making any observations fit a personal agenda, I'm gonna do it like a true truther should and apply the laws of logic and reason to what we have heard about the damage from the observer on the scene.

We can surmise that when that bad boy slammed through the tower, it not only damaged what it hit, but it kicked loose one hell of a concrete and steel cascade, and a large volume of it crashed all the way down through 9 floors and got that young fella and the woman with him killed. They didn't make it out.
No firefighters, 1st responders, paramedic units, or rescue squads made it to the 86th floor.

So, let's take into account that the damage to the tower's support structure was, in a word, extensive.

And talk about Fire, and fires

I'll skip the lectures on fire science, the hows and whys and wheres that fires burn,
and how to fight them. Other than to say, an uncontrolled fire has a mind of its own.
Those babies are friggin dangerous.

So, I'll focus on how fires affect the things they burn, like metals, like steel.

When steel is heated, thermal expansion occurs.
When heat is applied to a steel beam, even a portion of it,
the steel expands in all directions. The beam will get longer and fatter.
However, a structural steel column bearing a load cannot expand on its longitudinal axis,
IOW, it's too weak to lift the load.
So, it warps, it bends, even buckles, it's longitudinal load axis is considerably weakened.
There is no point in remapping the most accurate estimates of support columns affected by the crash,
over my ten years here, I've covered this countless times.

I'll begin with a verifiable premise.
In both the South and North towers the initial structural failure precipitating the collapse occurred in the jet impact zone, right where the damage was greatest and the fires the hottest.

No detonation of explosive devices caused the failures, simply because no explosive device, devices, or firing circuits could have survived the jet crash and fuel explosion.

Occam's Razor - the simplest explanation is most likely the correct explanation.

Gravity and mass in motion and mass at rest are the dynamics of a building collapse.
Gravity being the workhorse. Any demolition engineer knows that.

The damaged columns in both tower's core were heated, one by one, two by two,
beyond any hope of bearing a load, and their share of the load was handed to the remaining "healthy" columns,
after enough of the hot damaged columns had failed, the axis of the load bearing stress on the healthy columns was no longer vertical, they were bending toward the weak spot. And they eventually broke. And down came Humpty Dumpty.

In other words, folks, the WTC towers collapsed due to severe structural damage further weakened to collapse by heat.

One other thing, for the record,
It wasn't the Israelis, the Mossad, the CIA,
or little green men with laser weapons,
or something conjured up by cowboy Bush
that attacked us on 9/11.
Al Qaeda terrorists attacked us on 9/11.
That was seminal moment for Islamic terrorism,
Islam had a new face, and it isn't pretty,
caused a paradigm shift in geo-politics.

As for the neo-Nazi Whole2th, he can kiss my ass.
When those jets hit, the twin towers literally got... (show quote)


Yes, the VERY BIG LIE BAMBOOZLE(TM).

“It would be my greatest sadness to see Zionists do to Palestinian Arabs much of what Nazis did to Jews”
Albert Einstein/ New York times 1948

May the real Nazi continue to reveal himself as he projects his mask/sins on the rest.


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Nov 2, 2023 22:15:51   #
~W

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQFXStBP9Ro

Einstein about Jews in 1948--the year Orwell's 1984 was conceived.

Jackson Hinkle
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Nov 2, 2023 21:46:24   #
proud republican wrote:
I trust get word waaaaaaaaaaaay more than I trust you!! PERIOD!!


"get word waaaaaaaaaaay more"? Is there a typo?
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Nov 2, 2023 21:28:26   #
microphor wrote:
So everything's a lie except your propaganda? You can't be reasoned with, your already gone. Goodbye.


Define 'propaganda'

I sense we have differing concepts of what constitutes 'propaganda'.

Would you please distinguish 'narrative' and 'propaganda'. Use examples.

Please be more candid and deep thinking in your reply.

Ooops! Giving your word that you're leaving this topic?

As you are known for loathsome deception, should we trust your word? Are you true to yoursel(f/ves)?
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Nov 2, 2023 21:19:58   #
Cornflakes wrote:
Okay, isn’t having an undercover Mossad operative a wartime tactic to gain valuable intelligence about your enemy or maybe your just so inept and just like showing how ignorant hate for anything Jewish can turn on you 🤠


~W

About "ignorant hate for anything Jewish"

The last quote by Lex in this fascinating conversation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG7I6Bt_NZY

As I turned 13 and knew a family of non-orthodox Jews having dinners often with them, I watched with some regret (that I wasn't born Jewish) their maturity event bar mitzvah and imagined what it would be if my own 'culture' had some event to symbolize and actualize the transformation to ethical, lawful, productive adult life and behavior.

As my mother was adopted, the family tree was cut off at the trunk on her side. For a number of reasons, I suspected I might be part Jewish through my mother. Her unsealed birth certificate has a blank box in the 'father' field.

Imagine my shock in seeing that the 911 'surprise' attacks were conceived, planned, executed and covered-up by Jews--those claiming to be Jews. Sure, there were gentile accomplices. I've already observed serial Zionist atrocities in Palestine and throughout the world. Olympic teams slaughtered. Sprinklings of bombings to stampede humanity one way, then the other.

To the degree that any of you purport to be representative Jews, you do a disservice, IMO, to the public perceptions of Jews--those public who have rediscovered what some Jews are desperate enough to commit.

I have a fascination for THEM (THEY LIVE) and how I'm privileged to interact with you all--even the lurkers to this topic.

We each build our legacy.

You are adamant to redefine 'hate' and 'hatred' to suit your 'shoot the messenger' justifications.

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Nov 2, 2023 17:25:30   #
American Christians who identify as Zionists are used and confused by Jewish (Zionist) narratives.

https://stateofthenation.co/?p=193199
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Nov 2, 2023 17:23:31   #
Justice101 wrote:
Talking to yourself again?


No more, I'm sure, than you talk to yourself. We all have an inner talk. Some of my inner talk I withhold from posting here.

How about the motto: "By way of deception, thou shalt make war."


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Nov 2, 2023 15:24:39   #
Justice101 wrote:
Anyone can go back on this thread and see what I have posted. You deny and run from the truth. 1John 4:6


Yes, donkey, the grass is blue.

How interesting is this? https://twitter.com/zmarv/status/1720107775198425209?t=eoLimhdzbdcG_xYkm8cHHQ&s=04

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