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May 23, 2015 13:23:06   #
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
I will just take your first statement---"I believe in science".

Gosh, I believe in science, too.

And I can take all of your statements apart for their incompleteness and superficiality. But I don't have the time.

See my new comment on this thread.


Carol, all you have said here is that you agree with liberals on one of the statements.

If there is a genuine difference between liberals and conservatives, that's what your thread is about.

I'll show what i think the differences are:

(liberal) I believe in science
(Conservative) I believe in the Bible which contradicts science.
(Lib)I believe corporations are businesses, not people
(Cons) I believe corporations should have the same voting rights as people
(Lib) I believe in equal rights, regardless of sexual orientation
(Cons) I believe sexual orientation and the rights accorded should be defined by the Bible.
(Lib) I believe that 47% of Americans aren’t looking for a government handout
(Cons) I believe welfare is a handout which is undeserved.
(Lib) I believe in climate change, not that God has decided to use weather to “punish sin”
(cons) I believe climate change is a hoax
(Lib) I believe we must learn from history, not repeat it
(Cons) I believe frequent wars are good for the economy
(Lib) I believe women deserve the same rights as men
(Cons) I believe women should get their biscuits in the oven and their buns in the bed.
(lib) I believe our sexual orientation is something we’re born with, not something we choose
(Cons) I believe homosexuality can be cured.
(Lib)I believe immigration is what has made this country great, not what will bring it down
(Cons) I believe immigrants are ruining this country--except for the ones who tend my yard and harvest my crops.
(Lib) I believe freedom for all means freedom for all
(Cons) I believe the more blacks and Hispanics we have in prison the more freedom there is for the rest of us.
(Lib) I believe we have the right to own guns, but our Second Amendment says “well regulated” for a reason
(Cons) I agree with Lib except for the "well regulated" part.
(Lib) I believe in a living wage I believe you don’t create wealth by giving rich people more money
(Cons) I believe in keeping wages down so the wealthy can make more profit
(Lib) I believe welfare helps the poor, it doesn’t punish the rich
(Cons) I believe that every dollar which goes to the poor comes out of my pocket.
(Lib) I believe health care is a right, not something for only those who can afford it
(Cons) I believe if you can't afford health care, you deserve to die
(Lib) I believe a woman has the right to choose what to do with her own body
(Cons) I believe it is up to men to make that decision for her.
(Lib) I believe a country is judged based on how they treat their poor, not their rich I believe there needs to be an economic threshold which we don’t let Americans fall below
(Cons) Who cares how the poor get by? That's not my concern.
(Lib)I believe we are not “entitled” to Social Security and Medicare, we paid into these programs–we earn these benefits
(Cons) SS and Medicare are "entitlements" and should be abolished.
(Lib) I believe while we are all born in the same country, we are not all created equal, some people do need help
(Cons) I believe if you're not born equal to me, that's just too bad.
(Lib) I believe investing in education is more important than investing in bombs
(Cons) I believe if we educate our young too much they may not want to invest in bombs which are very good for the economy.
(Lib) I believe nation building here is more important than the Middle East
(Cons) I believe nation building is very profitable for my heroes--the 1%.
(Lib) I believe rape—is rape
(Cons) I believe rape is caused by the woman's behavior.
(Lib) I believe demand creates jobs, not tax cuts
(Cons) I believe in the "trickle down" theory
(Lib) I believe in those “union thugs” like teachers, fire fighters and police officers
(Cons) I believe unions are un-American and should be abolished entirely
(Lib) I believe we support our military by not cutting VA benefits and only sending our troops off to war when there are no other options
(Cons) I believe military personnel are animals which should be used to serve the interests of Wall Street.
(Lib) I believe we all have the right to follow whichever religion we want, or no religion at all, and our government should represent no singular set of religious beliefs
(Cons) I believe church and state should merge.
(Lib) I believe our Constitution doesn’t only protect the rights for which I agree, that it sometimes protects rights I disagree with
(Cons) I believe the Constitution is useful only when it serves my agenda.
(lib) I believe that being unemployed doesn’t mean you’re lazy, and most individuals who don’t have a job—want one
(Cons) I don't really care about unemployment as long as I'm prosperous.
(Lib) I believe in an United States for the people, by the people, means we protect the people–we don’t leave them to suffer if they hit hard times
I believe we should protect the weakest among us first, not the richest
I believe we shouldn’t go broke trying to live healthier and longer
I believe we should put people before profits
(Cons) Screw the "Little People."
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May 23, 2015 12:34:46   #
LAPhil wrote:
You really are full of crap, buddy, and you read like a book. If you want to be taken seriously maybe you shouldn't make your anti-Semitism so blatantly transparent. What's the problem, can't you say the word "JOOOS"?


You're obviously a Zionist. It's evidenced by your arrogance and by your nasty disposition.


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May 23, 2015 12:06:58   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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I agree with you 100% but Israel will Attack Iran soon !

Only because the IN fighting has started within the 8Bankster families...

Putin will defend and fight till DEATH and Jacob Rothschild knows this... there are Wild Cards Coming...

America is now just a pawn in a Global game of control for the EuroAsian Prize !
Remember this.


The Rothschilds own the Russian central bank so there is a good chance that Putin is controlled by the Rothschilds to a large degree.
http://bloginfo.educate-yourself.eu/2013/03/list-of-banks-owned-by-the-rothschild-family/
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May 23, 2015 12:01:11   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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I agree with you 100% but Israel will Attack Iran soon !

Remember this.


I'm not going to say they won't because Zionists are batshit crazy.
If it happens I hope you've had a good life because life on earth will end soon after.
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May 23, 2015 11:55:29   #
Kevyn wrote:
The "rapture" is contempoary thinking, if you can call it that, only introduced in the last century. The idea of the "pure and saved" people jetting off into the sky while the rest endure hell on earth is comforting to uneducated snake handling, tongue talking, fire and brimstone bible thumpers. It is a thing of tent revivals put on by snake oil peddling preachers and is not and has never realy been part of normal Christian or Catholic church teachings.


Did anyone watch the HBO series, "Six Feet Under?"

The show about a family of funeral directors started each episode showing how someone ended up in their funeral parlor.
The most humorous of these opening segments was when a van filled with inflated plastic mannequins was involved in an accident which released all the mannequins which started floating up into the sky.
A woman who obviously believed in the rapture got so excited she started running toward them, entering a busy street and got promptly flattened by a large truck.
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May 23, 2015 11:41:33   #
saltwind 78 wrote:
I'm not impressed. I do know that Israel helped create Hamas as a counter to the PLO. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. As far as I'm concerned, The Ayatolla is just another fanatical Muslim leader like his predecessor. He is an enemy of both Israel and the U.S. I also know that the Shah was a terrible dictator that deserved to be overthrown. What they have now is no better.


So it appears you can't back up your statement that Jews have been expelled from Muslim lands.

If you had said Zionists had been expelled from Muslim lands, that would at least be somewhat believable.
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May 23, 2015 11:35:37   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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And it's about to get worse, Russia is going to help Iran and some others...so the WWIII will begin somewhere somehow drawing other nations in by default ...

At the same time China will be watching from their perch and then launch spot flare ups playing both Russia and American sides.


But by the time all the DumbAsses, BoneHeads & Clowns wake up to this it will be too late.
>>>>>>>>>>>>&g... (show quote)


Obama's controllers, consisting mostly of the Rothschild banking dynasty, have realized that the BRIC alliance with Iran is strong enough to have second thoughts about attacking Iran.
European members of the NATO alliance are not as suicidal as the U.S., Israel and Britain which are controlled entirely by Zionists.
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May 23, 2015 11:18:29   #
Babsan wrote:
Muslims are barbarians if you look at Al Caida,ISIS and the likes.No need to demonize demons


The lies have certainly worked to brainwash you.
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May 23, 2015 11:16:44   #
"American whistle-blower Edward Snowden revealed that: 1) US-UK-Israeli intelligence created Isis; 2) the grand plan was dubbed by the US National Security Agency as “Hornets’ Nest”; and 3) Isis leader Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi was trained by Mossad.

The origin of Isis was in post-revolution Libya. The Libyan rebels whom the United States had helped were linked to al-Qaida in Iraq, which became the first batch of Isis. After the fall of Moammar Gadhafi, his antitank and antimissile weapons were looted and smuggled via Turkey to Syria for Isis. A secret agreement among the US Central Intelligence Agency, Turkey, and Syrian rebels revealed that funds for the young Isis came from Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Turkey. Eventually, Isis had a $2 million-a-day windfall (to this day) from the oil wells it took over in western Syria. Isis launched an international recruitment campaign, which augmented its ranks from 10,000 to 30,000 in a few months. Thus, Isis now has the arms and troops to launch a protracted war on many fronts. US air strikes are delaying but not stopping its advances. The goal is to neutralize weaker Syria in order to “encircle” Iran. Now, the United States is fighting a monster of its own creation."


http://opinion.inquirer.net/79462/isis-a-cia-mossad-mi5-creation
http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.624626
http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-trained-by-israeli-mossad-n...
http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2015/03/syrian-foreign-minister-isis-created-by-u-s-bri...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/sudans-president-claims-cia-and-mossad-sta...
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May 23, 2015 11:08:38   #
BEN PECORA wrote:
ISIS Training Camp Uncovered Near Texas Border—21JH. B2
Congressman Duncan Hunter told Fox News last fall that at least 10 ISIS affiliated terrorists were caught trying to cross the border into Texas.
Judicial Watch reported on Tuesday that the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) is operating a training camp just south of the US/Mexican border, near El Paso, Texas. Sources, idenfitied as a Mexican Army field grade officer and Mexican federal police inspector, told Judicial Watch that the camp is about 8 miles south of the border, just west of Ciudad Juarez in an area called “Anapra.”
Mexican officials also uncovered a second cell also west of Ciudad Juarez in Puerto Palomas, which is targeting the New Mexico towns of Columbus and Deming as a path to easily access the United States.
This report comes on top of previous reports Judicial Watch had received last summer from U.S. officials that ISIS was operating near the U.S.-Mexican border. Congressman Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., a member of the Armed Services Committee, also told Fox News last October that at least 10 ISIS affiliated fighters were caught trying to cross the border into Texas, according to his source in the Border Patrol. The Obama Administration denied that any known terrorists had been apprehended at the border at the time. Politifact Texas could not verify Hunter’s claim.
The training camp near Ciudad Juarez was uncovered during a joint operation of the Mexican Army and the Mexican federal police. The team discovered prayer rugs, documents in Arabic and Urdu, and plans for the U.S. Army’s Fort Bliss military installation, which is located in El Paso. Fort Bliss is home to over 30,000 active duty soldiers, including the First Armored Division.
Fort Bliss increased security measures last fall following reports of ISIS cells operating in the region. Gen. Jerry Boykin (Ret.) said at the time: “That means they’re getting a threat stream. Ft. Bliss had to have a clear and present threat.”
Judicial Watch reports:
According to these same sources, “coyotes” engaged in human smuggling – and working for Juárez Cartel – help move ISIS terrorists through the desert and across the border between Santa Teresa and Sunland Park, New Mexico. To the east of El Paso and Ciudad Juárez, cartel-backed “coyotes” are also smuggling ISIS terrorists through the porous border between Acala and Fort Hancock, Texas. These specific areas were targeted for exploitation by ISIS because of their understaffed municipal and county police forces, and the relative safe-havens the areas provide for the unchecked large-scale drug smuggling that was already ongoing.
Mexican intelligence sources report that ISIS intends to exploit the railways and airport facilities in the vicinity of Santa Teresa, NM (a US port-of-entry). The sources also say that ISIS has “spotters” located in the East Potrillo Mountains of New Mexico (largely managed by the Bureau of Land Management) to assist with terrorist border crossing operations.
Source—western jouranlism, randy desoto, fox, judicial watch
ISIS Training Camp Uncovered Near Texas Border—21J... (show quote)


ISIS was created by Mossad and the CIA.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.624626
http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-trained-by-israeli-mossad-nsa-documents-reveal/5391593
http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2015/03/syrian-foreign-minister-isis-created-by-u-s-britain-zionism-cia-mossad-and-mi6/
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/sudans-president-claims-cia-and-mossad-stand-behind-isis-and-boko-haram-10051024.html
http://opinion.inquirer.net/79462/isis-a-cia-mossad-mi5-creation

If ISIS does have bases in Mexico, you can be sure Mossad and the CIA have plans to pull off another false flag event like 9/11 to further falsely demonize Muslims.
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May 23, 2015 09:48:44   #
The New World Order is nearing completion.

http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/government/banking_and_taxation_irs_and_insurance/social_security/news.php?q=1320062234
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May 23, 2015 09:28:41   #
hnealc wrote:
Please note below. Have you contemplated this:

A Kafir is anybody, atheist, Protestant, Buddhist or any other religion, that is not Muslim. It is the stated purpose of Islam to annihilate and extinguish all other religions and philosophies, the Kafir.

Are you a Kafir?

So we need some allies if we are to survive this jihadists onslaught. The Christians, atheist, Buddhist need to band together need to become allies.

The difference between an ally and a friend:
You like your friends but you do not necessarily have to like your allies.

Your thoughts?
Please note below. Have you contemplated this: br ... (show quote)


I don't buy into the Zionist plan to demonize all Muslims.

It's been obvious to me since this all started that Israel cannot justify their genocide of Palestinians without falsely making Muslims appear as the aggressors.

Zionists were behind 9/11 which instantly demonized Muslims and enabled the fake war on terror.
http://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it
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May 23, 2015 09:15:18   #
emarine wrote:
Seems that you & Ennes dont like Jews.... Straight from the Captains mouth at many hearings over many years ....http://www.sixdaywar.org/uss-liberty.asp


It's Zionists we can't tolerate.

The site you linked is an outlet for Zionist propaganda.

It has been discovered that CAMERA (Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America) has been attempting to control all information on Israel and Zionism on Wikipedia. http://www.examined-life.info/2014/01/zionist-cabal-tries-to-hijack-wikipedia/
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May 23, 2015 09:01:35   #
saltwind 78 wrote:
Compensation? There are now more Jews that have been exiled from Muslim lands ( especially Arab ) than Arabs that have left Israel. Just charge the Arab lands and give us the change. By the way, Abbas has promised the Palestinian people that no Jew will be allowed to live in the new Palestinian state. That would make it the only country in the world that would have laws preventing Jews from living there.
Speaking of terrorists, I think that the term applies to Hamas and Islamic Jihad, as much as Irgun.
Compensation? There are now more Jews that have be... (show quote)


You don't appear to know that Israel helped create Hamas.
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ZER403A.html

I doubt you can back up your statement that Jews have been expelled from Muslim lands.

Many Jews left Iran when the tyrannical Shah was overthrown. Most of these Jews were wealthy and left because they had either supported the Shah or been in the Shah's inner circle. Iranians knew that the U.S. had been responsible for overthrowing Mossadegh in 1953 and installing the Shah who was similar to Saddam in his tyranny. Iranians also knew that Zionists controlled much of U.S. foreign policy.

After the Iranian revolution in early 1979 members of the Jewish community feared for their lives, afraid that they would be murdered or expelled by the new Iranian regime. After the execution of prominent Jewish businessman Habib Elghanian on May 9, 1979 was publicized in local news outlets, the leaders of the Jewish community in Iran knew that they had to act fast in order to guarantee the safety of all Iranian Jews. The community leaders quickly assembled a group of two rabbis and four prominent young intellectuals and set off to meet with Ayatollah Khomeini in the Iranian city of Qom. After the group congratulated the Ayatollah on his victory over the Shah in the recent revolution, the Ayatollah gave a long monologue concluding by comparing Christianity, Islam and Judaism and saying that they are the only religions that are truly descended from heaven. The Ayatollah stated that in the Qur'an Moses's name is mentioned more times than the name of any other Prophet. The discussion concluded with Ayatollah Khomeini claiming that "We recognize our Jews as separate from those godless, bloodsucking Zionists." This was the answer that the Jewish community leaders had been looking for, and the Iranian government has kept their word and kept the Jews physically safe (for the most part) ever since this moment.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/iranjews.html
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May 23, 2015 08:27:44   #
PoppaGringo wrote:
The original definition of Liberal has morphed into Socialism.


Isn't it interesting that the only Socialist in Congress is the only congressman who consistently supports the working class in America.

He was also the Senator who was most responsible for the Federal Reserve being audited for the first time. The audit revealed the Fed had secretly loaned out $16 trillion during the bank bailouts and a lot of it went to foreign banks. http://www.forbes.com/sites/traceygreenstein/2011/09/20/the-feds-16-trillion-bailouts-under-reported/
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