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Jun 16, 2019 09:45:24   #
Rose42 wrote:
Military aircraft are great for firing missiles and dropping bombs. Well done Trump and Obama.


They all do it Rose, we are controlled by Corporations, from Military contractors, Oil, Insurance Co. Big Pharm. on down, ever hear of Humana? When I was researching weapons sales, from this thread I was surprised to find Humana listed as one of the companies backing weapon sales. I looked further...

In 1993 Humana founded Humana Military Healthcare Services (HMHS) as a wholly owned subsidiary.

From 2004 to 2009, HMHS was the managed care contractor for the Department of Defense Military Health System TRICARE South Region. In 2009, HMHS' Managed Care Support Contract was awarded to United Military and Veterans Services, a subsidiary of UnitedHealth Group. HMHS protested that decision and the Government Accountability Office upheld the protest in late 2009. In 2011, HMHS regained the five-year contract to administer medical benefits to military members and families in the South region, a contract worth $23.5 billion.

What this means is that we pay Humana a service to distribute medical benefits? Why you may ask? Good Question? The more we subcontract to what we ourselves can do, the more money we spend.

You may also find this interesting when dealing with our healthcare Insurance companies.

On May 30, 1996, Linda Peeno, a physician who was contracted to work for Humana for nine months, testified before Congress as to the downside of managed care. Peeno said she was effectively rewarded by her employer for causing the death of a patient, because it saved the company a half-million dollars. Peeno stated that she felt the "managed care" model was inherently unethical.
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Jun 16, 2019 00:11:26   #
slatten49 wrote:
Maybe, Byron...but, not completely done. You responded before I put up that last link. I was disappointed in seeing the thread topic having been cast aside.

Now, those few links have been offered as to why so many believe that Trump supporters were stupid in voting him into The White House. Even while pointing that theory out, I firmly believe that many supporters of our president (especially on the OPP) are intelligent, articulate and well-meaning...and, they won. And, as the saying, "to the victors belong the spoils."

We'll just have to wait and see what 2020 brings.
Maybe, Byron...but, not completely done. You resp... (show quote)


That may be true when the win is an honorable one.
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Jun 16, 2019 00:04:27   #
slatten49 wrote:
To get back to the original thread question, I present the following possible explanations...

https://thefederalist.com/2016/05/18/trump-supporters-arent-stupid-theyre-foolish/

https://reverbpress.com/politics/ten-things-trump-supporters-are-too-stupid-to-realize/

https://democracyguardian.com/are-trump-supporters-really-as-stupid-as-we-think-d94eb6bef64c

https://www.politicususa.com/2016/05/10/american-idiots-poll-proves-trump-supporters-stupidest-people.html

https://brucegerencser.net/2019/05/why-do-liberals-think-trump-supporters-are-stupid-by-adam-troy-castro/
To get back to the original thread question, I pre... (show quote)


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Jun 15, 2019 23:59:03   #
byronglimish wrote:
So with our youth (male and female) just tell them to try sex, and if they don't like it, abstain from it?

It's a matter of morals!....instilled in the kids that will make all the difference.

Like you would teach your kid any other boundaries on social behavior.

If you have a son, teaching him to go long, go deep is a moral irresponsibility.

You make fun of Godly principles as something to be done away with, and then still want social morality that you impose.

That's the thing with Atheist usurping of biblical rules.

You folks condemn something that you've never tried personally, you just cherry pick certain people who claim religion and point out their faults.

Lucifer is the accuser (the prosecutor) he's very proficient at attacking people who are struggling to better their character through biblical instruction too.
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If I appear to be mocking it is because you are so out of touch with today, the aspirin comment is ridiculous and impertinent to women, which you seem to be completely unaware of.

I am not an atheist.

I've never tried, how arrogant of you, what can you possibly know what I've tried or not. I am not the one who declares who is right or wrong in their religious beliefs or interpretations, while I do take exception to others doing it to me.

While I do believe in a higher divine entity, I don't believe in Lucifer, satan, or sins. All that does is take power and responsibility away from us and I don't think that is the intention towards our greater good or divineness.

I am all for morals, and ethics but even more so for an awareness of our actions. To have a woman not want an abortion, she has to feel safe, to honor the life within and want to keep it even if only till birth. This is where we have not exceeded and what I mean when I say we've been going about it the wrong way. A girl should not feel she is walking around with an invisible scarlet letter, but this has not changed due to religious judgments.
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Jun 15, 2019 21:00:52   #
permafrost wrote:
Most of those ideas are promoted by the right wing press, in readiness for the coming 2020 election..

nearly all Lies and misrepresentation..


I always did like Sean, tell it like it is...
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Jun 15, 2019 20:59:24   #
permafrost wrote:
It has been good weather for a bit.. couple days in the 80s... hope summer will fall on a weekend this year..

the floods are down south, not so bad, but I went to Mankato, my sons house, and the Minnesota river was over the banks but receding. Not bad but a way to go yet..

Agree with you about the Salvation army.. they are truly the top of the pack..

i have never dug into the Clinton global initiative..

What little I do know, they seem to act as middle men in matching jobs with the doers from the big foundation..

With the near end of contributions which I feel were hoping, as in most other case of charity giving, to gain something in return from a powerful group/person, the CGI has nearly shut down.

I did see one headline article that stated it was not completely gone but did not follow it up..

Only try to make a reply, try to show links to what I post, sometime can not or simply forgot..

I am an old duffer now days..
It has been good weather for a bit.. couple days i... (show quote)


Steve nailed it
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Jun 15, 2019 20:57:59   #
dtucker300 wrote:
Love the hypothetical, "if, then," conjecture. "Do you have any idea what Trump~"king of the golden thrown" would spend if his daughter were getting married now, all I know is that we'd be paying dearly and nothing would make him happier than for us to be paying for it, that is his signature, "Let other people pay"."

This is the absurd way in which Liberals love to argue;
"if his daughter were getting married now,...". That would be the way of the old Democrat Trump who is no more. Democrats love to spend other people's money (OPM). However, his daughter isn't getting married now. Your point is absurdly illogical.

If you were a genius you would also be smarter. But your not a genius and nothing will change that. If I had more money I would be richer. If your mother had an abortion you wouldn't be here to say stupid things. See how ridiculous that kind of argument is?
Love the hypothetical, "if, then," conje... (show quote)


Not illogical at all, nor absurd, the point being hypocritical against Clinton while supporting someone as Trump, who brags how he doesn't use his own money but other peoples money. I'm sure i can find the quote quite easily.

What a beautiful thing to say to someone and that vicious disgraceful comment is a perfect example of who you are and the new right, the scum of the earth.
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Jun 15, 2019 20:43:48   #
Crayons wrote:
I am saddened by the fact that I must post this...But Jesus Loves all the little children

Lets see what we have here 'Morgan'>>>
this is scheduled for tomorrow...Armed Antifa Terrorists to guard gender bender story time for children at TX library https://www.teaparty.org/antifa-vows-to-defend-drag-queen-story-time-at-texas-library-367589/

https://www.leftcult.com/2019-06-09-left-is-targeting-retarded-children-for-transgender-indoctrination.html
https://dailystormer.name/un-calls-for-child-sacrifice-to-stop-global-warming-from-causing-everyone-to-freeze-to-death/
https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-02-28-infanticide-now-a-core-value-of-democrats.html
https://dcdirtylaundry.com/the-horrors-of-lgbt-progressivism-parents-to-start-physically-maiming-their-own-babies-to-slice-off-all-gender-organs/
https://infanticide.news/2019-06-10-dismember-the-late-term-babies-but-do-not-declaw-the-cats.html
https://medicalkidnap.com/2017/07/31/arizona-child-removed-from-loving-family-and-placed-into-foster-care-where-she-was-repeatedly-raped-then-80-of-body-burned/
https://lawstreetmedia.com/issues/health-science/intersex-genital-mutilation-overview/
https://www.abortions.news/2019-05-05-baby-born-at-21-weeks-democrats-called-her-an-unviable-tissue-mass.html

This is one of Infowars most chilling soundbites made by a crazed leftist at an Austin SxSW rally
https://www.infowars.com/woman-confesses-i-kill-my-kids/
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Trash sites
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Jun 15, 2019 18:03:43   #
Rose42 wrote:
Good teachers teach you to think rationally and make informed decisions. Not make up your own reality.

Christ’s message is offensive to most people. ‘A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense’.


Here's the funny part, you don't think you are creating your own reality, your own universe of right and wrong.

Again you state your opinion as fact, I have never found most people, or almost anyone for that matter, who took the word of Jesus as offensive. I didn't know you were a world traveler? Please tell me, what quotes are offensive?
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Jun 15, 2019 17:51:19   #
JFlorio wrote:
You do know in the Hebrew and Greek definitions used in Bible translation judge has a bit of a different meaning. I’m no Biblical scholar but have had this conversation with my pastor who is.


Pastors are mortal men along with their opinions, who helped comprise the Bible. When it comes to the Bible people have very different viewpoints, some swear to it being written by the hand of God, others see it as passages written by men, the followers of Christ. Some believe Christ was a savor while others see him as a master teacher. Either way, it is a belief, and I don't see anyone saying to anyone else my beliefs are right and yours is wrong, that I find to be arrogant to a highest degree and yet that is what happens all the time with the fanatical religious. It is extremely offensive, I would never make that assumption over someone else.
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Jun 15, 2019 17:33:09   #
JFlorio wrote:
I’m constantly amazed at how we all read the same thing and see it differently. I don’t see rose at all how you describe.


Possibly because you have more in common and therefore she talks to you differently, that's fairly common around here. Rose and I go back and forth, it's rather harmless.
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Jun 15, 2019 12:52:00   #
Rose42 wrote:
I’m not an authority but you don’t know what they mean do you? If you’re going to read it you should use a concordance and commentaries to get the full meaning. Good teachers help too.


I'll use exactly what I deem necessary for what I need to put my point across Rose, you want to control everything and everyone don't you, always telling people what they should and should not be doing, always critical and judgemental, apparently how you were raised and now you follow in their footsteps. Your conditioned beliefs keep you bound and living in the constraints of a box.

Good teachers allow, support and inspire you to fly on your own, you need to get yourself some of them.
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Jun 15, 2019 12:41:32   #
JFlorio wrote:
Not what I meant. The English translation we read has words and meaning that are interpretations of what the original text was written in. I could give many examples, but you know what I mean.

So far there is no gene that has been discovered that gives a reason for homosexuality. It is an abnormality and I believe people that are physically attracted to the same sex to be abnormal. They say they are born that way and I can't argue with that. I personally, don't give a second a day thinking about it. I only do when they insist on their ridiculous parades and antics and demand I accept their behavior as normal. I've known plenty of gay people. Some real a holes and some just fine. Just like the rest of the population. It's their supposed organizations and leaders I have a problem with. I just saw a video of a gay pride parade in San Francisco. Disgusting. Sex on the street, rampant drug use and idiot parents dressing their young children in drag and having them flit all over. I will never be comfortable with that kind of exploitation out of any group.
Not what I meant. The English translation we read ... (show quote)


I agree I don't like it or agree with that either, and I'm tired of it all over the screen. What we're presently experiencing is the push back for being accepted and not being looked down upon, the counterbalance and when all is said and done hopefully we'll end up a more balanced society.
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Jun 15, 2019 12:17:54   #
Zemirah wrote:
What woman would that be, Morgan?

The only women covered in the article I posted were the two torturer/murderers who had legal custody of the boy.

They should have had a fair and speedy trial, and been summarily executed.

Prayers of forgiveness to whom for what?

Only God has the power to forgive sin.

Women who have been given the power by the state to murder their own children are murderers.

The Almighty said, in His covenant with Noah, which still stands, "Whosoever shed's the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed."

If you're, for whatever reason, bringing in that abortion permitted clause to save the life of the mother, do you know how really rarely that ever occurs?

Less than 1% of all abortions are performed to save the life of the mother.
https://www.abortionfacts.com/facts/8
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No, I was not referring to those horrible sick women.

First, still on prevention, second Know the reasons given why abortion was their choice and give a safe sanctuary. We would then have to be willing to rais all of these unwanted children, that would have to include more social programs, foster homes have gotten a very bad reputation for a failed system. If the government raises them we will then become more of a socialists system, our catch 22.

It would certainly help to promote it as an act of love, to wait for the person whom one is in love with and have it be meaningful and a much deeper fulfillment as in Solomon's Song. But I don't see it promoted that way especially to the children on the big screen or anywhere else. Instead, we are inundated with violence and sexual acts including horrific violent scenes, why is this allowed? This is how it gets in, by the crack in the door. Ironically our own constitutional rights in these cases are working against us.

Yes as you said God forgives our sins, I was referring to us forgiving others and not to hold them in contempt. if you truly want to stop abortions, have health centers give out the day after pill, it's a whole lot cheaper than raising a child in the poor foster care system.
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Jun 15, 2019 11:51:08   #
byronglimish wrote:
You're trying to dictate my memory to fundamentally change it in your mind.

How many shrinks have you perplexed?


How can I possibly dictate to your memory, are you saying I possess mind control? Awesome!

Now tell me how your memory will fundamentally change my mind? This should be good, come on, I can't wait.
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