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Nov 27, 2017 17:29:33   #
cold iron wrote:
Give me a break, Debbie would blow him if she could.


I'll bet she did.
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Nov 27, 2017 15:18:21   #
S. Maturin wrote:
I am most interested in our law makers.. our congresscritters. You know, like that EX-chairperson of the DNC, Wasserman-Shultz. Didn't she facilitate foreign operatives doing the old 'mole' business for years among the democrat elected personnel? She saw that those 'selected' moles got paid big-time, right? Why should THAT woman still be in office, for instance?


Her boss likes her.


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Nov 27, 2017 15:09:42   #
Larry the Legend wrote:
"America suffered 9/11 and its aftermath and may soon be at war with Iraq, mainly because U.S. policy in the Middle East is made in Israel, not in Washington." Ouch. Like I said in my last post, they aren't breaking any laws, and aren't likely to...


Here's what happened to U.S. foreign policy as a result of 9/11.
Notice that most of the new policy makers are Zionists:
https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-adk-adk_sbnt&hsimp=yhs-adk_sbnt&hspart=adk&p=wesley+clark+foreign+policy+coup#id=1&vid=b1ad9387815c0529bafb4776216e1a1d&action=click
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Nov 27, 2017 15:05:16   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
The Pentagon is one of the largest office buildings in the world. It is the supreme headquarters of the United States armed forces. The Pentagon occupies an area of 6.5 million square feet, it is 921 feet long on a side, that's a total of 4605 feet around. I would imagine that surveillance cameras monitored all sides of the building. If they were divided equally around the building, then only 17 were on the side hit by the jet.

Most of those 85 cameras were not aimed in the direction of the Pentagon and/or at the part of the Pentagon in question.
Most cameras were located a considerable distance from the impact event, and virtually all surveillance cameras had wide-angle (fisheye) lenses which cause some geometric distortion and render distant objects at very low resolution.
Many cameras had obstructed views of the Pentagon impact area.
In 2001, virtually all surveillance cameras had low spacial resolution.
In 2001, most or all surveillance cameras recorded at low frame rates (low temporal resolution), generally at one frame per second.
The high speed of the plane, accelerating to over 550 mph, caused some image blurring and offered a low chance of catching more than a single frame of the plane, given the low-recorded frame rate (one frame/sec).
The Pentagon is one of the largest office building... (show quote)


Why don't they release those 17 plus all the security videos they confiscated from the surrounding private businesses?
The private business security cameras would likely have been the standard 30 frames per second.
This surveillance video camera supplier doesn't offer any cameras with one frame per second. https://www.cctvcamerapros.com/Surveillance-Video-Frame-Rate-s/354.htm
Why would the Pentagon be so cheap and careless to use one frame per second cameras?
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Nov 27, 2017 14:57:03   #
S. Maturin wrote:
No argument, here. Still, those perps are individuals and need to be ferreted out and dealt with one at a time; uno alta volta.


Two prime suspects have been arrested in Saudi Arabia.
Prince Alwaleed bin Talal and Bandar bin Sultan
Prince Alaweed moved in the top echelon of corporate finance and communications in the U.S. and Saudi Arabia.
Bandar has been a kingpin in international arms trade for decades.
Bandar was so close with the Bushes, many referred to him as Bandar Bush.
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Nov 27, 2017 13:38:38   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
9-11TV DVDs by and for the 9/11 truth movement

The 85 Pentagon Area Surveillance Cameras

According to the FBI, there were 85 video surveillance cameras in the vicinity of the Pentagon that might have captured some parts of the Pentagon event on 9/11. The FBI confiscated some of the recordings from those cameras very shortly after the event, and the rest over the following days. This act by the government fueled the suspicions of those questioning a large plane impact into the Pentagon. It is known that the FBI confiscated much 9/11 evidence, including evidence at all four crash sites; thus their confiscations at the Pentagon were typical, not unusual. However, since the two videos that were released do appear to contain useful information about what hit the Pentagon, we should not automatically assume the FBI is being dishonest here.

Why very few cameras captured the impact event

There are a number of valid reasons why only 4 of the 85 videos were released by the FBI in response to a FOIA (Freedom Of Information Act) request filed in 2004, which was fulfilled in 2006. Because of a number of factors (listed below and detailed in the footnotes) only 2 of the 85 cameras captured any useful footage of the plane-impact event.

Most of those 85 cameras were not aimed in the direction of the Pentagon and/or at the part of the Pentagon in question.
Most cameras were located a considerable distance from the impact event, and virtually all surveillance cameras had wide-angle (fisheye) lenses which cause some geometric distortion and render distant objects at very low resolution.
Many cameras had obstructed views of the Pentagon impact area.
In 2001, virtually all surveillance cameras had low spacial resolution.
In 2001, most or all surveillance cameras recorded at low frame rates (low temporal resolution), generally at one frame per second.
The high speed of the plane, accelerating to over 550 mph, caused some image blurring and offered a low chance of catching more than a single frame of the plane, given the low-recorded frame rate (one frame/sec).

History

The well-known “5-frames” from a Pentagon surveillance camera were first released in March of 2002. The only frame that appears to include the plane has a post obstructing the camera’s view of almost everything but the tail fin.

In December 2004, Judicial Watch, a public interest group, filed a FOIA request on behalf of Scott Bingham. The request was for surveillance camera footage that might show the plane approaching and/or hitting the Pentagon.

The FBI identified 85 surveillance cameras that were located in the vicinity of the Pentagon that might have revealed the plane. After the Zacarias Moussaoui trial ended in 2006, the Department of Defense released 4 of those videos2, including a 200 frame extended version of the 5-frame sequence first released in 2002.

Completely new to the public in 2006 were the 183 frames that were released from a second identical surveillance camera located adjacent to the first camera within the same security checkpoint. One of these new frames provided an unobstructed view of the plane, but at such low contrast and resolution it was not initially noticed or reported as such. Instead, what appears to be the same white smoke seen in the crucial frame from the first camera (released in 2002) is also seen at the edge of the second camera’s crucial frame. The shape of the white smoke was mistakenly identified in news media as the plane’s nose.3

What the two Pentagon camera recordings reveal

Both of the two Pentagon surveillance cameras were in a security check point located about 833 feet north of the impact point. Both cameras show what appears to be white smoke trailing the approach of a rapidly moving object. The frames that followed the impact of that object show a massive orange fireball, quickly followed by a rising column of black smoke, and then debris fragments raining down and landing near the two cameras six to nine seconds after the impact.4

The second Pentagon camera had an unobstructed view, and has one frame which appears to show a plane near the right edge of the frame, and appears to have the same white smoke trail that is seen in the 5-frame sequence. In a way similar to the identical first (5-frames) camera, the recordings from this second camera yielded a low resolution image of distant objects due in part to their wide-angle lenses, so the images do not make clear what is revealed by the second camera’s frames either. But what does appear in the crucial frame from the second camera resembles a somewhat out-of-focus airliner, including the tail fin and trailing smoke as seen in the adjacent “5-frame” camera.
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Why has the Pentagon refused to release all those videos from the 85 video cameras?
Releasing all the videos would either prove that they weren't aimed in the right direction or it would prove no airliner hit the Pentagon.
I strongly suspect the latter.
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Nov 27, 2017 13:32:42   #
S. Maturin wrote:


Oh, I see.

The government- PERSONS IN GOVERNMENT- lying to us is absolutely intolerable and those PERSONS doing that need to be found out, tried, jailed.

(See? I do not see the 'government' as a solid machine or blob, but a creation made up of individuals.. individuals that need to be held accountable.)

We seem to agree on that part, anyhow.


The individuals who control our government are members of a secret cabal who aren't even employed in our government and certainly not elected to political office.
This cabal is often referred to as "Deep State" or "Shadow Government." Both terms are connected to the unconstitutional "Continuation of Government" plan which is described here:
https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-adk-adk_sbnt&hsimp=yhs-adk_sbnt&hspart=adk&p=peter+dale+scott+deep+state#id=24&vid=272fed821d4a01382386627e7f2024d5&action=view
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Nov 27, 2017 13:15:37   #
Larry the Legend wrote:
Jonathan Pollard clearly had issues beyond dim-wittedness. Even his navy boss said he should have fired him long before any of this came to light but he didn't. They even pulled his security clearance at one point. By the way, Pollard was an American citizen, not a 'foreign agent'.

As for AIPAC, as far as I know they don't break any laws. If they exert excessive influence on American politics, the laws should be amended to reduce that influence. As of now, they're just doing what they're allowed to do, which is to pay corrupt politicians for actions that work in their favor. Don't expect those same politicians to kill the goose that keeps laying all these golden eggs anytime soon.
Jonathan Pollard clearly had issues beyond dim-wit... (show quote)



Pollard was a foreign agent of Israel. He was recruited by Israel to spy for them. He later became a citizen of Israel while in prison.
Israel had been trying to get him released ever since he was convicted. Pollard was paroled in 2015.
This investigation was done by Fox News right after 9/11. It covers all the Israeli spying which was going on during that period:
https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-adk-adk_sbnt&hsimp=yhs-adk_sbnt&hspart=adk&p=carl+cameron+israel+spying+9%2F11#id=2&vid=3e0dabc94908d46a671c7c5297be2ddc&action=view

The laws will never be amended to reduce AIPAC's influence on American politics as long as AIPAC is allowed to control who gets elected.
Paul Findley had been a Republican congressman for Indiana for 22 years. Findley expressed support for the Palestinian Liberation Organization. AIPAC poured enough money into his opponent's campaign (Dick Durbin) to succeed in defeating Findley. A former president of AIPAC said Findley was a "dangerous enemy of Israel".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Findley
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Nov 27, 2017 12:48:15   #
S. Maturin wrote:
Oh. (That IS surprising!)

Well, for the record, can you bare your soul enough to list those things in the western civilization world of which you do approve?

It seems you do not like or approve of much western civilization represents.


It makes more sense to list the major things that I don't approve.
I don't approve our government lying to us in order to go to war on false pretenses.
I don't approve of our mainstream news, TV and motion pictures being taken over by Jews/Zionists who most likely swear allegiance to Israel instead of the U.S.
Our government is in collusion with the media-controlling Zionists to lie to Americans in order to keep the fake War on Terror going.
The fake War on Terror is costing Americans trillions while benefiting Israel and corporate war profiteers and not the working people of the U.S.
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Nov 27, 2017 11:29:22   #
Larry the Legend wrote:
Maybe they should be forced to register if their owners are foreign. After all, that is foreign control of an American interest, is it not?


Foreign agents can be citizens of the U.S. and still swear allegiance to Israel instead of the U.S.
Have you forgotten Jonathan Pollard? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard
Read former U.S. congressman Paul Findley's book about AIPAC's influence on U.S. election systems:
https://www.amazon.com/They-Dare-Speak-Out-Institutions/dp/155652482X
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Nov 27, 2017 11:19:01   #
S. Maturin wrote:
And... at which Ivy College do you hold forth, perfesser?


Ivy League universities are crime factories.
I don't participate in criminal activities.
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Nov 27, 2017 11:02:06   #
S. Maturin wrote:
Your failure highlights your misunderstanding of what the Bible actually is.

In cases like yours, explanations are good examples of a waste of effort.

Now, stop trolling and baiting and crawl back beneath your rock.


What the Bible actually is? The Bible is an extremely boring book of propaganda which was designed by the wealthy of that era so the rich could brainwash the poor to cause them to fear God. This fear of God was used by the rich to prevent the poor from killing the rich and taking their wealth. It works most of the time.
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Nov 27, 2017 10:33:08   #
Larry the Legend wrote:
Tit for tat?

"Russian President Vladimir Putin signed into law on Saturday new measures allowing authorities to list foreign media outlets as “foreign agents” in response to what Moscow says is unacceptable U.S. pressure on Russian media."

"Russia’s move against U.S. media is part of the fallout from allegations that Russia interfered in last year’s U.S. presidential election in favor of Donald Trump."

Oh dear!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-media-restrictions/russias-putin-signs-foreign-agents-media-law-idUSKBN1DP0I2?il=0
Tit for tat? br br "Russian President Vladim... (show quote)


Every major news corporation in the U.S. should be forced to register as a foreign agent of Israel along with AIPAC.
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Nov 27, 2017 09:41:59   #
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
you don't have to say you hate them.....it's obvious, look how you turned this thread into 11 pages of anti Jew garbage.......... just curl up and die like a good Nazi, you will not be missed. pee...you...enn...kay!!


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Nov 27, 2017 09:37:36   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Ong and Sweeney made their calls on the air phones installed in the cabins. Sweeney had to borrow a credit card to make the call.

13 passengers from Flight 93 made a total of over 30 calls to both family and emergency personnel (twenty-two confirmed air phone calls, two confirmed cell phone and eight not specified). Brenda Raney, Verizon Wireless spokesperson, said that Flight 93 was supported by several cell sites. There were reportedly three phone calls from Flight 11, five from Flight 175, and three calls from Flight 77. Two calls from these flights were recorded, placed by flight attendants: Betty Ong on Flight 11 and CeeCee Lyles on Flight 93

Alexa Graf, an AT&T spokesperson, said it was almost a fluke that the calls reached their destinations. Marvin Sirbu, professor of Engineering and Public Policy at Carnegie Mellon University said on September 14, 2001, that "The fact of the matter is that cell phones can work in almost all phases of a commercial flight." Other industry experts said that it is possible to use cell phones with varying degrees of success during the ascent and descent of commercial airline flights.
Ong and Sweeney made their calls on the air phones... (show quote)


As usual you don't source the info you post.
I sourced mine. Here it is again . . . the real truth about the faked phone calls.
https://youtu.be/KjImLL4NnwA

Remember the alleged call from Mark Bingham from Flight 93 to his mother?
"Hi Mom, this is Mark Bingham"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryuYLUVX4VM
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