All it takes to be in church is as follows. Matthew 18:20 Where there are two or three gathered in my name, I am there...........
bobgssc wrote:
Not trying to beat you up or anything but don't forget the whole "foresake not the gathering of believers" which is a reminder that we need to be in a church where people can help us grow. I personally had horrible experiences with my FIRST 4 CHURCHES... basically, the pastors turned out to be the least healthy (spiritually) members. I quit going to church for a while and fortunately my wife kept looking. She found a church nearby that was fully grounded in the word, the pastor is absolutely non-judgmental and is a very mature Christian who isn't out to get rich (he and his wife sold their house to help the church when the economy collapsed and they drive cars that a guy puts together from totaled vehicles). I'm not saying a pastor has to do these things, just trying to show how he is.
I encourage you to keep trying to find a home church until you do. A good church should challenge you but never condemn you, should boldly talk about financial things (like tithes and offerings) but not to the point that they are hurting their members or doing it for obvious personal gain (the pastor can drive a nice car and live in a nice home, but shouldn't have the best of both in the entire congregation). A good church should also encourage you and you would never leave a good church feeling worse than when you entered. And btw, there is no such thing as the perfect church unless you can find one with no members, and of course don't join it because you will mess it up! ;-)
Anyway, I'm not trying to judge you and I know that I don't know your circumstances, but just want to encourage you as someone who has really struggled with organized religion (and finally realized that Christianity isn't about the religion) and has found a church home where he can grow, struggle and even fall down without being judged. Sorry for the long rant on this, but I'm obviously passionate about this subject even though I'm not nor have any interest in becoming, a pastor.
Finally, you should probably quit trying to be a good Christian, there is no such thing. A Christian is someone who has accepted Christ and that is that. If you feel God is calling you to give something specific up (conviction) then do so, if you feel "I'm a horrible person because..." that is condemnation and is absolutely not from God. I hope this encourages you. Btw, if you find some of my other posts around this board, you'll see that there is no way I can claim to be perfect and I really don't want to.
Oh, if you find a church that is putting signs together saying "God Hates Fags" run, I believe someone is going to have to answer for that someday.
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