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Aug 20, 2015 09:05:35   #
saltwind 78 wrote:
Though you say that you are anti Zionist, your arguments are anti-semetic. Your posts are usually against Jews not Israel.


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Aug 20, 2015 09:04:14   #
saltwind 78 wrote:
I neither have the time, or interest in doing that. Just turn on the liberal radio on the progressive satellite radio station. Just listen to those that defend the President on his Iran deal. Check out Pat Buchanan's past speeches.


I knew you wouldn't be able to back up that lie.
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Aug 20, 2015 08:32:07   #
reconreb wrote:
You should tighten your chinstrap, your helment is lose again, I watched the video of a very cunfused interview and the film was dark and unclear untill the end when the image was stoped and a clearly doctered image of Tamerian was shown , check that chinstrap dude nice try dumbass , and F-muzzies
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The eye-witness described the arrest. If it wasn't Tamerlan, why was the public never told who it was? Look at his build. The man in the video was built exactly like Tamerlan.


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Aug 20, 2015 08:28:05   #
mongo wrote:
I normally don't comment on bull-shit type views. But being from Massachusetts, and knowing there was a video of him and his brother placing the backpacks containing the bombs at the marathon, I'ld have to say, you are nuts. Don't post anymore tripe!

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Maybe you can post a link to that video which shows the Tsarnaevs placing the bombs at the marathon?
So far, you're the only one who claims to have seen it.
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Aug 20, 2015 08:24:45   #
saltwind 78 wrote:
I've read your banter before and it doesn't impress me any more the second time. I have defended Islam on OPP before against those who say that Islam is not a religion but a political ideology, that Islam is murderous, etc. The idea that the media is Zionist exploits the anti Semitic prejudice that you have. I don't think that the media expresses any kind of pro Israeli bias, and I don't believe that the media is controlled by Zionists. The Jewish people are a highly educated, talented people that are in many important fields way beyond their numbers. Law, medicine IT, and accounting are but a few of these fields. Media is another field that has attracted Jews, so what? I have seen plenty of unflattering stories about Israel on tv, and have heard even more on radio. NPR and other liberal media have been especially critical of Israel. Some of the stories I agree with and others I do not.
I can find nobody that in this country that likes jihadi Muslims with the possible exception of you. Many commentators from the right like Buchanan have also shown an anti Israel bias.
I've read your banter before and it doesn't impres... (show quote)


Why don't you link some of those mainstream media articles which are critical of Israel? I haven't come across any.
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Aug 20, 2015 08:20:14   #
emarine wrote:
Jeff one of the best parts of America is freedom of speech. Understanding that we comprise every possible type of people on earth all put in one place in one country is truly exceptional ... we are all entitled to our own opinions and beliefs... Prejudice , racism, anti Semitism all revolve around a strong dislike or hatred for someone or something. When you go out of your way to sell your dislike for whatever reason, In my opinion that makes you a judging asswipe who thinks that they are better or above someone else....The "my shit dont stink" attitude ... especially when you try and hide your hatred and blame it on something else .... If you dont like Jew's.... man up and just say that you dont like Jews... they are a minority and have been used as a scapegoat since the beginning of recorded history, its real easy and convenient... Solving real problems proves much more difficult than pointing your finger and blaming someone else ...
Jeff one of the best parts of America is freedom o... (show quote)


Jews are a minority in the U.S. and the world but they gain their power by being organized worldwide. So it is not the Jews in the U.S. who wield great power, it is the diaspora of wealthy Zionists worldwide who have financed the infiltration of all levels of our government, our military, our news media, our motion picture and TV industry and the Federal Reserve banking system.

Zionists in U.S. Finance and Banking




Zionists in international banking

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Aug 20, 2015 08:12:19   #
saltwind 78 wrote:
emarine, Thank you for your truthful and insightful comment. Payne claims to be a marine vet, but I don't believe a word he says. I think that he is either a Muslim of some kind or a plain, garden variety anti-semite. His stories about how the holocaust never occurred or was somehow the fault of Zionists has been a litmus test for anti-semitism for years. Add to this his lies about how the Jews caused 9/11, and even the murder of JFK, and, well you get the idea.


You can't seem to avoid lying any more than emarine, salty.
I never said the Holocaust didn't happen. I just provided evidence that it didn't happen the way Zionists have written it into the history books.
It's time for you to review the evidence which indicates Israel's participation in the 9/11 attacks once more. Maybe you'll find the intellectual ability to refute some of it this time but I doubt it.

1. Zionist Larry Silverstein leased the World Trade Towers only weeks before the attacks. He insured them for terrorist attacks and attempted to collect double claiming there were two attacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein

2. Silverstein collected over $4 billion in insurance payments on an investment of less than $120 million.
http://911review.com/attack/wtc/index.html

3. Silverstein normally had breakfast every day in a restaurant at the top of one of the towers. His son and daughter also worked in one of the towers. All three found reasons not to go to work on 9/11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm0PxzdHhPc

4. Silverstein said in a PBS filmed interview that he and the NYC fire dept decided to "pull" building 7 on the afternoon of 9/11. Wiring for explosive demolition takes weeks if not months. Why would the building which offices CIA, Secret Service, Guiliani's Office of Emergency Management and IRS be pre-wired for demolition? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

Silverstein refuses to identify the fire chief he claims he talked to about "pulling" the building.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

5. Silverstein was close friends with Ariel Sharon, Bibi Netanyahu and Ehud Barack.
http://iamthewitness.com/haaretzdaily-Up-in-smoke.html
http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/larry-silverstein-was-close-friends-netanyahu-sharon-barak
http://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it

6. Five Israelis were arrested after filming and celebrating the towers coming down. FBI interrogation revealed they were Mossad agents. They were deported and one of them later said in a TV interview that they were there to film the event. Therefore, they knew well ahead of time that it was going to happen. http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw

7. Hundreds of Israeli spies were rounded up and deported right after 9/11. Many of them were posing as art students in the area where the alleged hijackers were training in Florida.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbkQddEDPs0

8. $2.3 trillion was announced missing from Pentagon accounting while Bush appointee Dov Zakheim was in charge of Pentagon accounting. The missing funds were announced by Donald Rumsfeld the day before 9/11 and totally forgotten in the turmoil after 9/11.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpSBUgbxBU

9. Dov Zakheim is a Zionist and a dual U.S./Israel citizen. Before being appointed Pentagon CFO, Zakheim was CEO of SPS International, part of System Planning Corporation, a defense contractor majoring in electronic warfare technologies, including remote-controlled aircraft systems, and the notorious Flight Termination System (FTS) technology that could hijack even a hijacked plane and land or crash it wherever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXLmAiNYRoE

10. Zakheim sent 32 767s to Florida in 2001 to be converted to refueling tankers. 767s are the same type planes that hit Towers I and II.
http://911review.org/brad.com/batcave/Dov_Zakheim_911.html
http://www.dailypaul.com/153527/dov-zakheim-and-911-from-freedom-of-information-act-request

11. Many of the members of PNAC who signed the letter describing the need for a new Pearl Harbor were Zionists including Dov Zakheim, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, Elliot Abrams, Scooter Libby and William Kristol.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/nc-pilger.html

12. Zim American Israel Shipping, half owned by Israel, moved out of one of the Trade Towers two weeks before the attacks, forfeiting $50,000 on their lease.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/02/21/zim-shipping-evidence-they-knew-911-was-coming/

13. Odigo, an Israeli company with offices in one of the towers received warnings to stay away on 9/11.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/odigo-says-workers-were-warned-of-attack-1.70579

14. Jewish-controlled mainstream media covered up the fact that the towers were blown up. All MSM news censored all the news reports that were shown on TV that day reporting bombs going off in all three towers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UKfzGt6Fxk
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Aug 20, 2015 08:05:50   #
emarine wrote:
The really interesting part of your argument is that all people who believe in Israel "Zionists" are murdering, cheating, stealing, manipulative Plutocratic, Nazi Neocons and in general are evil to the core.... then stating that the Israeli Palestine conflict is the cause of all Islamic tension on the planet is.... truly unbelievable .... Zionism is not the main cause of Anti Semitism in the world... people who think like you are


I never said all Zionists are "murdering, cheating, stealing, manipulative Plutocratic, Nazi Neocons," But by supporting Israel, they are supporting the mass murderers--as you constantly do.
Why can't you use accurate terminology such as "anti-Zionism" instead of the false word created to shut down criticism of Zionism?


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Aug 19, 2015 19:24:21   #
wuzblynd wrote:
I just had to look and see what knothead would post such horsecrap. Should have known, just another engine pulling the troll patrol.


I see you're stylblynd.
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Aug 19, 2015 19:22:42   #
tenneman wrote:
Please get to a debriefing outlet asap.

tenneman


That's your rebuttal?

I've seen many lame rebuttals but yours ranks among the top in the non-rebuttal category.
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Aug 19, 2015 18:01:49   #
TroubleshooterTim wrote:
Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: “Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat”

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.


Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their

religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

Here's how it works:
As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens.



This is the case in:
United States -- Muslim 0.6%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1.8%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.



This is happening in:
Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby

Securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to

feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply.


This is occurring in:
France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. . Any non-Muslim

action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to
Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim

sections in:
Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings,

and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues,

such as in:
Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare,

such as in:
Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers ofall other religions

(including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels,

such as in:
Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and is
on-going in:
Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the

only word,

such as in:
Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 100%
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Since you like statistics, Jews are only about 2% of the U.S. population, yet they own all our mainstream media. They own and control our motion picture and TV industries. They've been in control of our Federal Reserve banking system for the last three decades in the period which has seen our national debt skyrocket from illegal wars and banking fraud. The Fed financed these illegal wars which benefited Israel but not the people of the United States. One of the duties of the Federal Reserve is to make sure that mortgage loans are properly collateralized. In the years preceding the
2008 banking crash the Fed was endorsing the bad mortgages rather than making sure they didn't happen.
Americans need to wake up as to who are the robber barons and the "enemy within our gates." It sure as hell ain't Muslims.
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Aug 19, 2015 16:30:41   #
saltwind 78 wrote:
payne100, I find it amazing that you not only believe the most outrageous lies about Jews , and have no qualms about spreading them as well, but can not believe that a Muslim could believe that God might call on Muslim true believers to kill non Muslims.
That SOB ISIL commander was guilty of raping an American hostage that was in Syria helping in a humanitarian cause. She was repeatedly raped by Baghdadi himself. Before he raped her, he prayed. He said that this was not only allowed by Islam, but required!
I never said that all Muslims are guilty of this kind of inhuman behavior, but clearly some are.
I can not understand how some Muslim- American kids could be attracted to these kinds of militias. Can you?
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I should find it amazing that you and so many on this forum believe the outrageous lies put out by the Zionist controlled media. But I don't because the Zionists have been so relentless with their propaganda that probably around 50% of Americans probably believe the lies told about Muslims. Those of us who know Muslims were not the perpetrators of 9/11, see through the Zionist lies.
Why do you think Zionists have invested all the money they have in buying up all the mainstream media corporations in America? They control the news because they want to control what Americans think. They want Americans to think that Israel is good and Arabs are bad. So far they've been fairly successful in the U.S. but not so in the rest of the world. Israel is ranked only slightly higher than North Korea in world respect, 4th from the bottom. American Jews have awakened some on this issue. 60% of American Jews favor the Iran agreement in a poll commissioned by J-Street. http://jstreet.org/blog/post/new-poll-majority-of-american-jews-support-iran-nuclear-deal_1
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Aug 19, 2015 15:48:46   #
saltwind 78 wrote:
I think that Tenneman makes a good point. As he said it is a debatable topic in Islam. Certainly not all Muslims agree with this, but I bet that the large majority of Islamic Jihadist do.


You're a member of Tennemen's ilk. My reply to him applies to you as well.
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Aug 19, 2015 15:43:11   #
no propaganda please wrote:
Dangerkitten said syria and other parts of the middle east, not just syria. She also said nothing about visas, did she, Just like so many coming in through Mexico withut visas, many from the mid east do the same thing. for all you know many of the syrians without visas came in through Mexico by bribing a corrupt official to help them cross the border. don't tell me they couldn't have arrived from the middle east to infiltrate America illegally, much the same way the people from south America do. They don't walk the whole way, they are transported. Who finances this activity I don't know, but considering the number of communist countries out to destroy the Western way of life, that answer would seem most valid.
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"Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid . . ."


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Aug 19, 2015 14:35:37   #
"What does apartheid mean, in Israeli terms?

Apartheid means fundamentalist clergy spearheading the deepening of segregation, inequality, supremacism, and subjugation.

Apartheid means Likud lawmaker and former Shin Bet chief Avi Dichter calling Sunday for separate, segregated roads and highways for Jews and Arabs in the West Bank.

Apartheid means hundreds of attacks by settlers targeting Palestinian property, livelihoods, and lives, without convictions, charges, or even suspects. Apartheid means uncounted Palestinians jailed without trial, shot dead without trial, shot dead in the back while fleeing and without just cause.

Apartheid means Israeli officials using the army, police, military courts, and draconian administrative detentions, not only to head off terrorism, but to curtail nearly every avenue of non-violent protest available to Palestinians.

Late last month, over the explicit protest of the head of the Israeli Medical Association and human rights groups combatting torture, Israel enacted the government’s “Law to Prevent Harm Caused by Hunger Strikes.” The law allows force-feeding of prisoners, even if the prisoner refuses, if the striker’s life is deemed in danger.

Netanyahu’s Public Security Minister Gilad Erdan, who pushed hard for passage of the bill, has called hunger strikes by Palestinian security prisoners jailed for months without charge or trial “a new type of suicide terrorist attack through which they will threaten the State of Israel”.

Only under a system as warped as apartheid, does a government need to label and treat non-violence as terrorism."

- See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/08/israeli-journalist-apartheid?utm_source=Mondoweiss+List&utm_campaign=a495be24b1-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b86bace129-a495be24b1-398535137#sthash.LILRSqVn.dpuf
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