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Jun 18, 2019 07:20:30   #
Peewee wrote:
Loyalty is a person like Trump is better than loyalty to the likes of Obama and Hillary. Slow Joe got 100 people to his rally and Trump people have been waiting 40 hours to get into his rally. Believe your eyes, not the polls.


There is no doubt Trump has his loyalists/supporters, the latter of your comment is your opinion and your welcome to it. As we stand now because Trump has done nothing to ensure the integrity of our voting system or campaigning it's hard to believe it will be a fair one, the corruption of it worked in his favor and he is obviously counting on it again in 2020, what a just man, sure go vote for "him" again.
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Jun 18, 2019 07:12:18   #
rumitoid wrote:
Do you have only opinions on me or can you share something on the topic of this thread: patriotism.


Good job with each one of them
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Jun 18, 2019 07:07:16   #
dilibar wrote:
You leftists are all insane! You are banning EVERYTHING this country stands for! Y'all need to be sent to Quantico with all your anti-Semitic and killer Muslims! The good side...just means closer to Jesus' return...YEAH!


sigh
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Jun 18, 2019 07:04:54   #
JoyV wrote:
Since when is blind loyalty to a person, Nationalism. Nationalism is love for your nation above any other nation. Not that you think you or your nations citizens are inherently superior, but simply that you want your nation to succeed more than any other. And by succeed it could mean be have more liberty, have better justice, have a stronger economy, have better education, or have a healthier population. Patriotism and Nationalism are intrinsically linked. You CANNOT be a nationalist without being a patriot.
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Nationalism is fine as long as it stays within reason and not to the extreme as we've seen it done before with Hitler and Germany. It is important to be sure that self interest in promoting the country doesn't over ride any of its citizens, or have their construed obligations outweigh other individuals or group interests.
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Jun 18, 2019 06:50:57   #
The Critical Critic wrote:
Agreed. A daunting task, which is sad considering the technology of today that makes communication almost instantaneous. Thinking the issue has more to do with comprehension, and finding agreement without conforming or temporarily suspending core beliefs and values.


Yes, I too think its comprehension but in defense, we are manipulated with a constant feed of slanted information and opinion pieces rather just stating the simple facts on the occurrences of events. People are overly busy and exhausted to take the time to file through the misinformation. Not to mention their disgusted attitude which is justified, so what do they do, they go to their go-to spot and eat it up, falling right into the hole of being manipulated thereby allowing the cycle to continue.

I believe the responsibility should fall on the journalists to go back to the days of being more factual and not slanting the truths. Maybe slander should be more accountable.
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Jun 17, 2019 10:49:46   #
The Critical Critic wrote:
Indeed.

It gives me great pleasure to find agreement with you, Morgan. Btw, I enjoyed your topic the other day about “democratic goals”- found myself more in agreement than not.


Thank you CC, do you recall the movie where Newman says "what we have here is a failure to communicate", might have been Cool Hand Luke, well that about sums it up in the US right now. This propaganda is undermining us, we need to nip it.
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Jun 17, 2019 10:43:49   #
lindajoy wrote:
Well now that about covers it~~ Thank You...


Actually Linda this just about covers it...

More than a third of the men who've occupied the Oval Office have been either accused of sexual misconduct, alleged to have had an affair, fathered a child out of wedlock with someone they were conducting such an affair with, or boasted of their extramarital sexual escapades.

Starting with Washington

http://www.businessinsider.com/president-sex-scandal-history-2018-3

Doesn't do any good to point at one party over the other, it's built into our society going back before we were ever created, it used to be well accepted by kings and Royalty as commonplace.
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Jun 17, 2019 10:37:26   #
Tug484 wrote:
You know they figured out many years ago, liberalism is a mental illness.


As the right extremists.
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Jun 17, 2019 10:35:44   #
Seth wrote:
Bevis & Butthead come to mind...


Maybe no one, but then he is NOT the President of the UNITED STATES.
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Jun 17, 2019 10:33:31   #
The Critical Critic wrote:
Until now????? Lol

Where’s the cartoon of Bill Clinton getting a hummer in the Oval Office, and putting cigars in other places besides his mouth, and actually grabbing an intern by the the pussy? Not just talking about it...

Until now.... what a joke. The Clintons sullied the White House long before Trump ever thought about becoming president.


Neither Clinton ever spoke with such foul mouths, this guys has gone has low to use the F word while speaking, not to mention all the others, Kev's cartoon is on the money, sadly that is where we're at with this guy.
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Jun 17, 2019 09:52:14   #
The Critical Critic wrote:
Certainly sounds reasonable to me, Morgan, though suppression doesn’t help.


I agree suppression never helps. Suppression is the enemy of freedom.
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Jun 17, 2019 09:35:34   #
The Critical Critic wrote:
*continued from above*

Thus, historically, when men like Shakespeare have partaken of na­tional pride, they have also be­lieved in their own worth as human beings and have been able to put that belief to good use artistically, intellectually, and sci­entifically.

Ultimately, it must be concluded that only those who do not wish a nation to prosper culturally, or to defend its integrity against an enemy, will not wish the people of that nation to be patriotic. Love of country and love of liberty are inseparable aspects of the same basic human approach to civilized life. Mature love is an extension of self that must be freely given, and cannot be adequately devel­oped in an atmosphere of repres­sion. Those who would take away a man’s freedom are well aware that they must first take away that man’s belief in the integrity and worth of those in his cultural and social complex who protect him from oppression.

We would hope that our public educators will not continue to ad­vocate overthrow of American lib­erty by suppressing patriotic and moral attitudes in the schools. The study of Shakespearean literature would more surely benefit students than the consideration of the doc­trine of universal love. Shake­speare pondered the "to be or not to be" question, and decided that the struggle to save his country from ruin was more desirable than a quiet death. If educators were to approach patriotism as Shake­speare did, they would know that "to be," or, to live, means to be free, and to learn to love one’s country freely.

By: Judy Anne Headlee

Mrs. Headlee of Mission Viejo, California, is Instructor of Secondary English.

—FOOTNOTES—

1 Urban Whitaker, "War/Peace: The Magic Formula," California Elementary Administrator, 31, May-June, 1968, p. 21.

2 From the Antigone by Sophocles, translated by Charles Robinson, Jr., An Anthology of Greek Drama, 1962, p. 112.

3 William Shakespeare, Richard the Second, II, i, 40-59.
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As usual, much to contemplate, with many valid points, just a couple of comments, in your post..." while immorality, treach­ery, and atheism are "wrong. I, though not an atheist, would not include that in the list of that which is wrong.

I also do not agree that it is an attempt to overthrow our American liberties by "suppressing patriotic and moral attitudes in the schools." I do agree that both a healthy balance of patriotism along with a higher level of consciousness for world compassion can coexist. To everything and I do mean everything, there is a balance, a distribution of weight for stability, from being overly submissive in trying to keep the peace, to over aggressiveness for full control. Patriotism, along with nationalism, which is now being pushed again by the right, falls in between, in a balance.

I believe patriotism is not obedience nor blind loyalty but as you say "to love one’s country freely." for that there also has to be good reason.
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Jun 17, 2019 08:51:12   #
Lonewolf wrote:
More to be revealed we have a criminal president and a criminal Attorney General helping to cover his tracks. Biggest cover up in history.


Obstruction.. the word of the day for Trump. Where all his energies go to aside from family foreign trademarks.
China Grants 18 Trademarks in 2 Months to President Trump, Ivanka
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/donald-trump-ivanka-get-trademarks-china-1158882

HOW IS THIS NOT AGAINST THE EMOLLIENTS CLAUSE, AND OUR CONSTITUTIONAL LAW

That the phrase "Offices of Profit or Trust under the United States" applies to all appointed officials is undisputed, however, there is much debate as to whether it extends to elected officials.

History does not provide a clear answer: When he served as Secretary of the Treasury, Alexander Hamilton produced a list of persons holding such offices at the request of the Senate; the list did not include any elected positions. Further, during their presidencies, while George Washington did not seek or obtain congressional consent for foreign gifts, Andrew Jackson did.

The Foreign Gifts and Decorations Act of 1966, on the other hand, enumerates several elected positions in its definition of "employees" who may not accept any gift of more than minimal value without congressional approval. Such "employees" include the President and the Vice President, a Member of Congress, and the spouses and dependents of the same.

The problem is in the wording and should be redefined, rather than gifts to be inclusive of any benefits, which would include trademarks for personal and private businesses, associated with such person.
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Jun 17, 2019 08:32:48   #
tommsteyer wrote:
Schiff the Congressnazi said he had proof of Trumps collusion and treason and high crimes.
This was his reason to chant the I word endlessly and vamp for the cameras. Does he want a Maybelline contract?
This congressman Covergirl has opened his mouth too often now how about some accountability?
This person should in no way shape or form be chair of the committee for intelligence oversight.
Schiff should have to face charges for the lies he's told and spurious allegations leveled at the president.

His security clearance should be lifted.
Schiff the Congressnazi said he had proof of Trump... (show quote)


If he ran for president I'd vote for him
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Jun 17, 2019 08:18:16   #
fullspinzoo wrote:
You guys don't have a platform....except hate Trump, despise Trump, beat Trump at all costs....even if it is illegal. You really don't have a clue do you? How's your spelling? Can you spell "doofus"?


Can you spell tool?
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